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RobertoOrtiz
03-08-2006, 02:37 PM
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" Google Inc. is preparing to offer online storage to Web users, creating a mirror image of data stored on consumer hard drives, according to company documents that were mistakenly released on the Web.
The existence of the previously rumored GDrive online storage service surfaced after a blogger discovered apparent notes in a slide presentation by Google executives published on Google's site after its analysts presentation day last Thursday.


"With infinite storage, we can house all user files, including e-mails, web history, pictures, bookmarks, etc and make it accessible from anywhere (any device, any platform, etc)," the notes in the original Google presentation state.

Chief Executive Eric Schmidt in his presentation made comment that one goal of Google was to "store 100 percent" of consumer information."

>>LINK<< (http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/07/technology/google.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes)

-R

Dennik
03-08-2006, 03:56 PM
No thanks, but my data is my data, end of discussion. Google smells more and more like a sneaky Big Brother to me.... :shrug:

rawshark
03-08-2006, 03:58 PM
OK Google is really starting to scare me now...

allelement
03-08-2006, 04:02 PM
nvm, i wouldn't use it.

pogonip
03-08-2006, 04:07 PM
Infinate storage ? ...Uhh a hard drive has a limited amount of storage even if you are Google how is it they have infinate storage space ? How many friggen servers can one company have anyways :argh::surprised:surprised:surprised:curious:

Sonk
03-08-2006, 04:22 PM
As crazy as it sounds, i wont mind using it..if its free :D

grau
03-08-2006, 04:34 PM
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according to company documents that were mistakenly released on the Web

if you haven't laughed the first time read it again

Clanger
03-08-2006, 04:43 PM
I'd use it. :thumbsup:
I've nothing to hide, so long as it's cheap having my stuff backed up off site plus being able to access it from anywhere sounds great.

JMulder
03-08-2006, 05:07 PM
if you haven't laughed the first time read it again

Yep, pretty ironic that we're going to hand our files over to a company that can't keep its own files private...

JDex
03-08-2006, 05:12 PM
Yep... I think they are going too far now. If I could do that on my own, secure server that only I have root access to... I'd be all for it, but making anyone company the sole datacenter for my personal and professional data is a laughable proposal... it only pales to the fact that the company that wants to secure my data, had a data leak informing me of it.

FunkyCowie
03-08-2006, 05:19 PM
hrmm... I have over a terrabyte of HD space... its half empty right now (of legal stuff) If I were back up my stuff it would take for ever to upload. Lets see 500GBs... *gets calculator* 192 days 24/7 at 30k/s upload hrmmm sounds bloody wonderful! *sarcasm*

EDIT: I`ll just stick with my second computer as back up :)

Cronholio
03-08-2006, 05:28 PM
Yep... I think they are going too far now. If I could do that on my own, secure server that only I have root access to... I'd be all for it, but making anyone company the sole datacenter for my personal and professional data is a laughable proposal... it only pales to the fact that the company that wants to secure my data, had a data leak informing me of it.

Christ, you make it sound like it's all or nothing and Google is twisting your arm to make you use their storage. You can keep your home made porn on your HD, no one's interested in it. You all act like you work for the Pentagon. Why do you guys think anyone is going to give a crap about a bunch of mope rock mp3s and half finished maya and max scene files or whatever it is you have sitting on your HDs now? There's all sorts of encryption you can use that cannot be cracked without the aid of a supercomputer, if you are really paranoid and want to use the service.

In the not so distant future you are probably going to not only be relying on online storage, but also relying on cpu cycles provided by third parties like google whether you like it or not. You're going to have get over that paranoia.

JDex
03-08-2006, 05:41 PM
Christ, you make it sound like it's all or nothing and Google is twisting your arm to make you use their storage. You can keep your home made porn on your HD, no one's interested in it. You all act like you work for the Pentagon. Why do you guys think anyone is going to give a crap about a bunch of mope rock mp3s and half finished maya and max scene files or whatever it is you have sitting on your HDs now? There's all sorts of encryption you can use that cannot be cracked without the aid of a supercomputer, if you are really paranoid and want to use the service.

In the not so distant future you are probably going to not only be relying on online storage, but also relying on cpu cycles provided by third parties like google whether you like it or not. You're going to have get over that paranoia.

With the current models that google has been putting forth... my conjecture is that through google desktop (which must be installed to use the service) google will over time, transfer your data to their GDisk servers --all your data-- so that it is available to you where you go.

My guess is that it will be an all or nothing service, and they will be happy to index it for you, and make it super-searchable... all the while providing relevant, andd useful advertising based upon the interest model generated by the indexing service.

If it really is just a webfolder... that's cool. I may put some data on it from time to time, like I do with gmail... but I think it will not be such a webfolder.

rawshark
03-08-2006, 06:40 PM
Christ, you make it sound like it's all or nothing and Google is twisting your arm to make you use their storage. You can keep your home made porn on your HD, no one's interested in it. You all act like you work for the Pentagon. Why do you guys think anyone is going to give a crap about a bunch of mope rock mp3s and half finished maya and max scene files or whatever it is you have sitting on your HDs now? There's all sorts of encryption you can use that cannot be cracked without the aid of a supercomputer, if you are really paranoid and want to use the service.

In the not so distant future you are probably going to not only be relying on online storage, but also relying on cpu cycles provided by third parties like google whether you like it or not. You're going to have get over that paranoia.


Sorry but you don't find it even remotely disturbing that one company could be responsible for that much personal information?

I may trust Google but I certainly don't trust the organisations who could potentially force Google to violate my privacy rights...while I take your point that no one is interested in my half-finished max scenes, I would hate to be the victim of some over-zealous law enforcer who gets it into his head that my 3d model of the twin towers constitutes terrorist tendencies...

I'm not suggesting that there's an Evil Conspiracy or anything, but it seems like common sense to keep such things as diffuse as possible.

Rick May
03-08-2006, 06:51 PM
Sorry but you don't find it even remotely disturbing that one company could be responsible for that much personal information?

I agree, to a point. If you can keep the information encrypted, then I would possibly be okay with it. However, if it is encrypted, I'm not sure how they would index it to place ads.

I guess we will learn more if and when this actually happens. I wouldnt mind keeping some of my stuff backed up there. Definately not all of it or the uber sensitive information. Like tax records, bank information, etc, etc. Probably even if it were encrypted, I would store it on my systems only.

-JT-
03-08-2006, 06:56 PM
mmhh I'm not sure what to think... I'll probably use it for some heavy things.

But I'm sure people in high places really interested can already access your hardrives...

Simon
03-08-2006, 07:24 PM
hmm well I wouldnt use this in China (or maybe even America). I already use my gmail to store really important images and file backups.

I'm wondering what type of storage Google has? I mean hard disks can't be cost effective I mean my Gmail is 4gb...

-Simon

pluMmet
03-08-2006, 08:02 PM
I agree, to a point. If you can keep the information encrypted, then I would possibly be okay with it.

There is a bill floating around to add to the Patriot Act that any encryption above 128 bits will be illegal. It's so they can look at the "terrorists emails."

Simon
03-08-2006, 09:23 PM
There is a bill floating around to add to the Patriot Act that any encryption above 128 bits will be illegal. It's so they can look at the "terrorists emails."

128bits still takes a *very long* time to crack.

Saurus
03-08-2006, 10:56 PM
Check out MS new search site...pretty interesting. Search Battle getting more and more interesting.

www.live.com (http://www.live.com)

-Vormav-
03-09-2006, 03:46 AM
I wouldn't mind having a service like this around for the sake of backups. But you've gotta imagine that their EULA is going to indemnify them against any loss of user data (and when storing massive amounts of data for a massive amount of users, you can be sure that some of their hard drives will go bad). So, although something like this certainly could be great just as an extra measure taken with backups, I don't think it's anything that I would ever come to rely on.

There is a bill floating around to add to the Patriot Act that any encryption above 128 bits will be illegal. It's so they can look at the "terrorists emails."
0_o
I can't imagine how something like that could ever even be enforced...Especially since so many solutions for greater encryption levels are already readily-available (IE AES at 256-bits)

Beamtracer
03-09-2006, 05:34 AM
The 'Google Hard Drive' is not something that interests me.

However, I can see it would be useful to some people. The "Ma & Pa" computer users are incapable of doing basic computer maintenance.... especially backing up their data. You and I might do it, but 99% of computer users don't back up their data.

How many photographs, essays, novels and works-in-progress have been lost as a result of computer viruses, hard drive failures and other computer mishaps?

For these people it would be useful to store their stuff online at Google. The downside is that with a court order, the NSA could possibly access it, but most people just keep trivia on their hard drives.

CIM
03-09-2006, 05:35 AM
Check out MS new search site...pretty interesting. Search Battle getting more and more interesting.

www.live.com (http://www.live.com)

That site is pathetic. You'd think M$ would do a better job on their "Google killer"--oh wait, I forgot who we were talking about. :rolleyes:

wmendez
03-09-2006, 05:49 AM
People are already doing this with GmailFS

Gmail Filesystem provides a mountable Linux filesystem which uses your Gmail account as its storage medium.

http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html

Windmill
03-09-2006, 09:33 AM
Cool, I wonder if they support hotlinking :twisted:
could use it for my image posts here, though I doubt they would.
Nice for a spot to put my showreel or photos. I wonder if theres a way to make it accessible to everyone

paintbox
03-09-2006, 10:30 AM
Quote:
"With infinite storage, we can house all user files, including e-mails, web history, pictures, bookmarks, etc and make it accessible from anywhere (any device, any platform, etc)," the notes in the original Google presentation state.

Chief Executive Eric Schmidt in his presentation made comment that one goal of Google was to "store 100 percent" of consumer information."



We already have such a thing. Its called a webhost. Yeah it costs a little, but you know your data on there is under your own control.

That said, for people who just want to transfer some of their data for access everywhere might use that.

But storing 100% consumer information ? A HD is just by far faster and more reliable I think. (reliable as in privacy)

bernieLomax
03-09-2006, 10:59 AM
having read all of the posts.
it seems to me that the answer is quite obvious.
Google shares their storage space.
So all that remains is:

what do define as private information or public information. as soon as you send your info to theyr serverz they became public. because in the end, you just can´t monitor who accesses it.
so the question remains...
"just because you´re paranoid doesn´t mean that they are not after you." nirvana in utero.
i rest my case with this.
i shouldn´t have to hide info in anything because there shouldn´t be anyone looking for it! :deal:

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