QuadroFX go 1400 VS GeForce go 7800

[lots]

In games, that Quadro Go 1400 will be no where near the speed of the Geforce 7800 Go. Keep in mind that hardware wise, the Geforce 7800 Go probably has more in common with bigger quadros, such as the Quadro 4500, while the Quadro Go 1400 has more in common with your midrange Geforce such as the 6800 or 6600GT.

From a hardware perspective, high end Geforces are usually identical, or close to it, to the high end quadros. The difference comes in the drivers you get. Quadros will have graphics drivers that have been optimized to work best with 3D software like Maya or Max. Geforces have drivers that have been optimized to work best with games, like HL2 or BF2.

What card you should get really depends on your usage and software. If you use something like Lightwave, a quadro will do you little good, as a Geforce of equal hardware spec will perform just as well (thanks to lightwave's horrible OGL, second only to Max ;)) If you've got software that will take advantage of the specilized drivers on the Quadro, then it may be worth it to grab that Quadro.

[CHRiTTeR]

Aaargh! Difficult difficult... :)


Thanks for the info :thumbsup:
But what I'd really like to see is a benchmark of some sort to see how the quadro go FX1400 performs in games... This way I can compare it with the geforce go 7800.

There are plenty of benchmarks for the geforce but I cant find any (gamebenchmarks) for the Quadro go FX1400??? :shrug:

[lots]

Indeed. It is sometimes hard to find these sort of benchmarks, because you are testing the card outside of its primary scope. Not many benchmarkers test these things, either because Nvidia prevents it, or they simply do not think about it.

In a perfect world benchmarks would be useful ;)

[fal$eProfit]

I have wondered about the game bench marks on the quadro's myself. It would be cool if you could load drivers to downgrade it to a GeForce. I've heard that with older models of GeForces you can upgrade to Quadro drivers for better rendering.

[tecton3d]

It would be cool if you could load drivers to downgrade it to a GeForce.

. . . for the love of God ~ why?

[CHRiTTeR]

. . . for the love of God ~ why?

Gaming.


BTW, I think I'll go for the 7800... I guess it's also quite fast enough in the max vieuwports? :D

[lots]

Thats an expencive gaming card (downgrading Quadros to Geforce drivers). The hardware is often times slower than the gaming hardware (lower clock speeds and such). So its not like it will be the end all be all of graphics cards on video games. Thats why he asked "why"

[CHRiTTeR]

Yeah, I know.

But I know you can flash a GeForce to QuadroFX and vice versa. I only never have experimented with this (semms the safest for my card :scream: ).
But how does it work?

Do I need to reboot every time and such?
A GeForce 7800 that is flashed to a QuadroFX becomes what kind of Quadro FX? (1400?)
And if I flash a QuadroFX go 1400, what kind of GeForce do I get? (6600? 6800? 7800?)


Excuse me if you find my questions annoying, I only want to make sure I buy something I'm sure about It'll work optimal for me, coz these things arent cheap :D

:thumbsup:

[lots]

Flashing the desktop 7800 would likely result in a Quadro 4400-4500 or so. As they are the same chip.

Flashing a Quadro 1400 would likely result in a 6600 or close to it (6800NU).

[CHRiTTeR]

Ok, thanks lots!!!
A 7800 it is then :D

[rajbirdhalla]

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.9GHz

Memory: 1024MB RAM

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 (Microsoft Corporation)

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce4 MX 4000

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0185&SUBSYS_015610DE&REV_A4

Display Memory: 128.0 MB

Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll

I AM PLANNING TO CHANGE MY GRAPHIC CARD , THIS GRAPHIC CARD IS NOT POWERFULL CAN ANU ONE SUGGEST ME A GOOD GRAPHIC CARD , I AM MOSTLY IN TO DIGITAL PAINTING, EDITING AND AFTER EFFECTS

pLEASE HELP HE

[lots]

A faster graphics card wil not improve your speeds in those applications.

[hholidayy]

If your into gaming it's not even an issue : "7800" ...the incredible gameplay you will get from that card will make little issues (if any) you will encounter in 3D applications seem like nothing! Many people use the 7800 serie without any problems. I have the 7800 an haven't encounter any problem in 3D applications yet (3 months), and I run BF2 at 90 fps! Hope this helps.

[CHRiTTeR]

Yo, I just ordered my laptop and desided to go for the GeForce 7900 go GTX... I heard these can fly :D

Few questions though:

- Can I flash these to a quadro? (plz note that I'm talking notebook versions here)
- Will I be able to use 100% Vista on them?

[Soljarag]

hey, I was wondering kinda the same thing, I'm looking at either the dell M90 with the Quattro 1500 or the xps with the Geforce 7900 GS

I mostly work in 3dsmax, Solidworks, and Rhino and i "sometimes" play games

anyone know how those two graphics cards compare?

[leif3d]

You should be able to run vista fine. Last time I checked you couldn't softquadro a GF 7XXX series. The last series was the 6XXX, to double check and stay up to date go to guru3d.com in the rivatuner forums. Good luck.

[RiKToR]

You can not flash a 7800go to a Quadro, there is no quadro equivalant for this card...yet. The 7800 perfromance on the laptops should be better than the Quadro 1400 because that based on a 256mb Geforce 6800 (with only eight of the sixteen pixels pipes open). To note though a 1400 is actually a pretty good card, my friend has one in his Sager.

I wouldn't recommend flashing a bios when it becomes available, I softquad my 6800 Ultra to a Quadro 4000 and it doesn't do games as well as a real Quadro, it plays well but textures jitter and shadows disappera and are horrible. My friends quadro looks a lot better than my softquad. 7800s are about double the performance of their 6800 sisters on desktops, I would assume the same on lappys, so you would have the same opengl response that the 1400 gives you (which is double (average) that of Opengl of a 6800).

To answer your Vista question, anything based on NV40 (Geforce 6xxx or Quadro 4xxxx or Quadro go 1400) and beyond is capable of Vista.

[Trajectory]

"[QUOTE=CHRiTTeR]Yo, I just ordered my laptop and desided to go for the GeForce 7900 go GTX... I heard these can fly :D "



What laptop are you buying?

I just got my M90 with the Quadro Fx 2500M, 2046MB RAM, T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs)
It ROCKS!!! I put off getting a decent Laptop for a while and Im glad I did.
3dMark 6 score was 4980, over 1000 more than my work desktop Dual Core AMD 3800+, with 2 gigs of ram and a 7800 GT Video card. The M90 outperformed the desktop machine in every test.

Ive had 2 othe brands of laptops since my old Dell 8500 and Im glad to ba using a Dell again :thumbsup:

[BRUTICUS]

I think i'm going to get the M90 as well. If a Quadro 2500 will triple my 3D opengl over a Geforce 7800 it definitely seems worth it.

Does anyone know if Zbrush uses Opengl and if a Quadro would improve its performance as well? Im guessing it would.

[CHRiTTeR]

What laptop are you buying?

I'm going for the D900K

[RiKToR]

I think i'm going to get the M90 as well. If a Quadro 2500 will triple my 3D opengl over a Geforce 7800 it definitely seems worth it.

Does anyone know if Zbrush uses Opengl and if a Quadro would improve its performance as well? Im guessing it would.

Last time I checked it was a Java based API/

[CHRiTTeR]

I think i'm going to get the M90 as well. If a Quadro 2500 will triple my 3D opengl over a Geforce 7800 it definitely seems worth it.

Does anyone know if Zbrush uses Opengl and if a Quadro would improve its performance as well? Im guessing it would.

I read somewhere on these forums that zbrush can handle that kind of huge polycount in a fluent way because all the geometry is handled in a special way by the system ram and cpu so it isnt accelerated by the 3D card. Sounds weird to me, but I aint no techy so it could be true. If it is then I understand that it doesnt matter what gfx card or gpu you got in Zbrush.
Better double check it ;)

[BRUTICUS]

yeah i heard the same thing the other day from a friend at work...

[azshall]

Great thread...

I'm actually about to buy an Alienware MJ12 with the AMD 64 FX .. Was curious if I should go with the Quadro 1400 or 7800 GTX .. sounds like the 7800 GTX is the way to go..

With that said, has anyone got reviews or any knowledge of these laptops as workstations? It sounds to be like a workhorse, just wish I could put over 2GB of ram in it since its a dual core 64bit system. However, I'll settle with just 2GB ... Thats what I use at work and I can't say I often kill the system ...

az

[RiKToR]

Great thread...

I'm actually about to buy an Alienware MJ12 with the AMD 64 FX .. Was curious if I should go with the Quadro 1400 or 7800 GTX .. sounds like the 7800 GTX is the way to go..

With that said, has anyone got reviews or any knowledge of these laptops as workstations? It sounds to be like a workhorse, just wish I could put over 2GB of ram in it since its a dual core 64bit system. However, I'll settle with just 2GB ... Thats what I use at work and I can't say I often kill the system ...

az

A laptop works as well as a desktop workstation. The main concern is heat dispersement on long renders, get a cooling pad or something if you plan on doing extended (24+ hours) renders. My laptop rendered for a straight week, and worked fine but it's best not to push it. Alienware on the other hand is not what I would recommend, I know from personal experience as well as watching others have problems - especially with customer service. I recommend Sager www.pctorque.com (http://www.pctorque.com) it's the same as MJ12 (which made by Clevo) but a better company to deal with, my friend has one and they have been impecable.

[tecton3d]

A laptop works as well as a desktop workstation.

caution... blanket claim ... relative to an extent... what type of work do you do... will you benefit from 2 - 15k scsi OS hd's in RAID 0 for boot and programs... do you want a dual- dual core setup instead of a single dualcore setup?... you just need to look at what your work requires.

The price that fetches a mid-range X2 laptop system can fetch a dual Opteron 270 - 275 (maybe better if you E-bay) Tyan K8we, 2gb ram, 10k 74gig os and prog drive, big and fat storage, 7800gt, which, need I say would make for a better "workstation"... you may not need that much... if not then get the laptop and enjoy the mobility of a 15+lb laptop

The main concern is heat dispersement on long renders, get a cooling pad or something if you plan on doing extended (24+ hours) renders. My laptop rendered for a straight week, and worked fine but it's best not to push it.

... not to be an ass, but isn't that the point of a true workstation ~ to "push it". You don't hear of a "smithy" stopping his craft because his hammer's soft.

Alienware on the other hand is not what I would recommend, I know from personal experience as well as watching others have problems - especially with customer service. I recommend Sager www.pctorque.com (http://www.pctorque.com) it's the same as MJ12 (which made by Clevo) but a better company to deal with, my friend has one and they have been impecable.

Like Riktor, I hear horrible things about Alienware which is why I have a Sager 8890 (3.2ghz p4 800fsb northwood and the same thing A-ware offered 2 years ago)... it's louder than hell but any X2 laptop rig would be the same if not worse... anyway, it's a great laptop for the way I work (and of course I already posess it...therefore don't have to buy anything)... you may want to consider powernotebooks.com as a viable opton as well. The same systems as A-ware and Pctorque but perhaps at a lower cost...donald@powernotebooks.com. FWIW... their tech support has never taken more than 2 hours to return my call.

[RiKToR]

caution... blanket claim ... relative to an extent... what type of work do you do... will you benefit from 2 - 15k scsi OS hd's in RAID 0 for boot and programs... do you want a dual- dual core setup instead of a single dualcore setup?... you just need to look at what your work requires.

The price that fetches a mid-range X2 laptop system can fetch a dual Opteron 270 - 275 (maybe better if you E-bay) Tyan K8we, 2gb ram, 10k 74gig os and prog drive, big and fat storage, 7800gt, which, need I say would make for a better "workstation"... you may not need that much... if not then get the laptop and enjoy the mobility of a 15+lb laptop



... not to be an ass, but isn't that the point of a true workstation ~ to "push it". You don't hear of a "smithy" stopping his craft because his hammer's soft.



Like Riktor, I hear horrible things about Alienware which is why I have a Sager 8890 (3.2ghz p4 800fsb northwood and the same thing A-ware offered 2 years ago)... it's louder than hell but any X2 laptop rig would be the same if not worse... anyway, it's a great laptop for the way I work (and of course I already posess it...therefore don't have to buy anything)... you may want to consider powernotebooks.com as a viable opton as well. The same systems as A-ware and Pctorque but perhaps at a lower cost...donald@powernotebooks.com. FWIW... their tech support has never taken more than 2 hours to return my call.

I didn't see your response as an ass, so don't worry. I agree it is all based on what you do, for 3d work (which is what I do) it works fine as a workstation not as a render farm. But i couldn't see myself doing constant full processor useage on a laptop for like video works and renders, my laptop heated up like crazy (Intel p4) granted AMD runs cooler. I had a laptop workstation and I traded it for a desktop workstation so I could run bigger projects, longer renders, more ram and have more mounted storage.

[rajkumar.n]

first your cpu does'nt support sse2 sse3 like... with latest build of amd is compleate with all the features.mx4000 is no where near good professional card.

i wll suggest you quadra fx500 from nvidia costs around 225 $. it costs 10000 rs in india.

fx500 128 mb.agp 8x.

[shonofear]

hi there, just found a good review for the quadros FX.. and has stats against the 7800 Geforce cards.
Sum good info

http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3321&page=1

regards

im opting for the quadro 1400 fx myself

cheers

[Tricota]

Do you believe in that review??
I think that review was bought by nvidia in order to sell some Quadro

[CGTalk Moderation]

This thread has been automatically closed as it remained inactive for 12 months. If you wish to continue the discussion, please create a new thread in the appropriate forum.