The Journey Begins Challenge (3D) Entry: Marco Fantechi

[medunecer]

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I got it! I have the inspiration! I'm thinking about that old movie named "Fantastic voyage" and its remake "Innerspace"; I'd like to make a sort of parody of that kind of movie, with a soldier,a micro-pilot, ready to begin a journey inside a human body, involved in a micro-surgeon mission. He's an hero, he's proud, he's ready to begin and to fly inside the body; but nobody told him that he will drive a "suppository-ship"... In these quick sketches you can see the first ideas of the environment (a surgery room) and the hero.

[Stefan-Morrell]

"Innerspace"..thats a sweet concept & some very nice sketches to start with

good luck!:)

[medunecer]

Thanks Stephan! Good luck!

[mike_t_3d]

uh huh huh huh heh heh huh huh huh hu..... in the ass!
Sorry I had to.
Nice drawings so far. I like number 1, the scientists face is bigger giving a better sense of scale for the little guy :D

[medunecer]

hem..yes...you're right mike...maybe this first idea is not the right one. I think I'm going to change it! Thanks for the advice about the doc's face behind!

[Vedic-kings]

Very nice skecks!

Good luck:)

[medunecer]

Thanks Josh!

[Gunilla]

gaah! Great concept! I'm totally fond of innerbody scenes - and this has the potential to be a really fun scene, poor hero :D

You could also do a scene where he enters the bloodstream, shrinked as in the movie ... less fun, but also less disturbing for those easily upset. Good luck, will follow for sure :thumbsup:

[MoMaZa]

Good Luck Marco I Hope To See Something Great Here

And have Fun :)

[medunecer]

Thanks my friends! Stay tuned, because last night I had a vision! Yes! I see it!!! And I'm going to post the new (and less disturbing) idea soon!

[medunecer]

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I have changed something: first, I have replaced the human hero with a bacterium, as a "micro soldier" born by some kind of military experiments...

[medunecer]

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I have changed something: first, I have replaced the human hero with a bacterium, as a "micro soldier" born by some kind of military experiments...

[medunecer]

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... then, I started to think about a mechanic tool that the surgeons will use to operate. I was thinking about nano-technologies and so i changed the main character with something built with this kind of technology, a sort of "switzerland-knife" micro-robot.

[arte-i45]

Hi there Marco, great idea for your entry. :thumbsup: The concepts that you have done already give a good view into this type of travel. I really liked "Innerspace" in the 80's so I will be looking forward to seeing where this journey goes. Best of luck to you on the challenge.

Matt :)

[medunecer]

Thanks Matt!

[Stefan-Morrell]

this one sounds like fun..just been checking out your Spectacular entry,nice work :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Yes, both the last two concepts are really good!
Maybe you could have the hero part organic/bacteria and part tech? That way you could use both great ideas :D
I have a feeling this will be something really special, please carry on!

[medunecer]

Thanks Stefan! I'm happy you like my spectacular! I hope to make something better with this journey!
Gunilla, thanks for your feeling and advices! I'm going to sketch the new micro-hero right now!

[ziriguidum]

hahaha.. very funny! good luck for u!

[medunecer]

Thanks rodolfo!

[umbrellasky]

Haha! Awsome, I had a simular thought last night ;)

I love your sketches, keep it going!! :thumbsup:

[medunecer]

Thanks Mad! Any advice welcome!

[Ranath]

why are you a 3D guy with that good drawings? :D

[alvin-cgi]

Interesting ideas you have.:) :)

[medunecer]

Ranath: Tanks my friend! I think my drawings are so confused, so I'm very pleased to read yourwords!

alvin_cgi: Thanks Alvin! I'm going to improve it soon...

[medunecer]

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Just some quick sketches for the background...I'm thinking about some surgeons ready to collaborate with the nanobot...

[medunecer]

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some sketches of the nanobot

[medunecer]

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I think I have fixed tha final design of the main character (the nano-robot).
Maybe I have to work on the head.

[medunecer]

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some ideas for the scene

[elmasfeo]

amazing sketches Marco!
I like the perspective in your last one, and the design of the nanobot is very good too... are you abandoning your idea of the swiss-knife head? it was a bit confusing, but original...

Good luck with it! :)

[shakes]

simply awesome sketches Marco! and really good character design. I'll enjoy this very much!

[medunecer]

Thanks my fellows!

elmasfeo: I think I'm going to make an arm as a swiss_knife...for the head...well, I don't know...anyway thanks for your advice: I'll think about it a little bit more!

shakes: Thanks my friend! I hope to post some other funny images!

[theuni]

Hi Marco,

nice sketches you created here! Like the idea... can`t wait to see the first steps in 3D :)

[flamingbs]

Hehe, I really love this idea. I'm looking forward to seeing it brought into 3D!

[medunecer]

Thanks my friends! It's time for some 3D now!

[adel3d]

Great progress man :)

[medunecer]

hey Adel! Thanks! I hope to post a first model in the evening...

[glenn23]

Sad to see your first hero came to an "unpleasant end"! But I really like the idea of the heroic nanobot. Surgical instruments have such an intimidating aspect it's nice to see one standing, ready to serve!

[medunecer]

Thanks Glenn! I agree with you about the feeling of the nanobot, but I don't know if make him more "human" and I'm "fighting" with myself about his head. I don't know if he will have an anthropomorhic aspect or not.

[medunecer]

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i have started to model the main character. Gunilla gave me a very good advice (about a nanobot half mechanic and half organic), but I think I'll make it all mechanic, to emphasize the gap of the background(the humans)with the foreground (the "tools").

[mike_t_3d]

Nice, its coming along well Marco.
I like to see how your idea has evolved and changed over time through all your skecthes. I don't think enough people do that, they just setttle on there first idea.

[Larsen]

Interesting sketches and concept man, i keep an eye on your work ;)

[wesa]

Nice concept! Like your sketches!
Great start with the modells:thumbsup:

[deanmarkey]

great modelling and scene... looks impressive, looking forward to seeing more

[medunecer]

Thanks my friends!

arkecreative: Thanks! I'd like to add more details on the nanobot model, but I think I should start props and surgeons model before...

Jonason: I think the model should have a very aseptic look; I hope to render it in the right way... (any advice welcome)

cipher: Thanks for the eye! (in an operating room is always useful!)

mike_t_3d: hey Mike, thanks a lot! I think this kind of challenges are very useful to learn being quick in the first part of the creative process. As usual, I'm learning a lot here!

[medunecer]

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improving the nanobot model

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, excellent looking update on the nanobot! He has that sleek smooth design, sort of reminds of a Mac. ;) :thumbsup:

Matt :)

[Stefan-Morrell]

he does sleek,I quite like the proportions..maybe a bit top heavy but I like it
looking good :thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

Looks good from here, I like it so far, keep up the good work!

[shakes]

looking great so far Marco..love robots. can't wait for the head!

[coochaki]

nice concept .:thumbsup:
good modeling... .. .
good luck:thumbsup:

[medunecer]

Dear friends, I'm always honoured to hear your comments and advices!

mmbenya: A Mac! Now that I look at it better...you're right! it's like a mac! Well, I'm going to change the nanobot design, because I always stay by the PC side! (the old rivalry between pc and mac hits me again!)

Stefan_Morrell: I agree; maybe he's too heavy...and I have some troubles with the legs...I hope to adjust the whole model soon.

Vedic kings:I'm going to post some other point of view of the model to make you see the hidden parts.

shakes: I'm going to add some camera objective on his head. I hope you'll like it!

coochaki: thanks and goodluck to you!

[cgoz]

cool characters! i'll follow your posts

[dannyfalch]

Oh yeah!

Very nice design on the nanobot,.
cool, smooth, strong and a naive expresion on the empty face
a bit like "yes sir, I will jump in to that boiling acid":scream:
good work.

[medunecer]

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First render attempt of the nanobot. Now it's time to model some props.

[Vedic-kings]

Great swiss army knife!

The toon shader one is cool:)

[shakes]

hey, Edward scissorhand bot! love it! I like the camera head.

[medunecer]

Vedic kings: Thanks! I made the toon one to underline the shape of the thorax; I like this part of the body!

shakes: Yesss! Edward scissorhand bot! Great shakes! Rock'n'Roll my friend!

[tuck]

Glad to see you here !and thanks for visit my entry!
like your render man,It very nice.:thumbsup:

[medunecer]

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I have just modeled the microscope and the pill in the backgruond. This is the idea: the nanobot is going to enter in the pill using it as a "rocket-ship", ready to start his trip inside the human body.

[Selina42]

Love your bot! He does look very clean and sleek - for some reason i can really imagine him when i go to the dentist! Only crit is that -if he were a nano-bot -he'd have to be even smaller in scale compared to the pill and microscope, i think. Perhaps if you used a fish-eye lens? But i think thats very easily resolved - and i love your idea and composition!

[Stefan-Morrell]

he does look a bit large compared to the pill,I love the idea of the microscope looming above.
not sure if I'd want him lurking around my insides after seeing the attachments on his arms..

looking forward to textures

Cheers!

[medunecer]

Hi fellows!

Selina42: Thanks selina! Infact I was thinking about a dentist that I know...I saw his studio months ago, and I was really impressed! It was so perfectly white, aseptic and so sleek. About size: you're right: Im having many problems with the nano-bot size and the relationship between it and the microscope. I hope to solve it soon! Thanks for the crits!

Stefan_Morrell: Hey, No fear! He's a great surgeon! And sooner or later this kind of toys will swim freely inside us! Thanks for the advice about the size!

[Geteken]

I like the thingy holding the pill, oh and the nannobot is aslo looking great.

[rodrigoessinger]

I thought the pill would look more like a ship, or just have some gadgets.

Will it be just a transportation? Then when the robot get inside he will come out of the pill?

[shakes]

I agree with Stefan about the pill size-at this angle you wouldn't instantly get it that he's goilg in there..maybe it should be open? looking tops though, and apart from the pill, the composition looks really good.

[rasamaya]

ah now your stuck on your perspective too... Im starting today, with a goal, to have my perspective down! Looks great so-far, would love to see more. What sort of energy does your nano use... does he get in and out of the pill during the journey... ?? I like asking questions like this. I wish you luck!

Cheers

[medunecer]

Hi mates! Thanks for your comments! The composition you saw is not the definitive; I have to resolve a lot of troubles and I'm working on a color concept that I hope to post tomorow. In the concept, I'm going to improve the idea of the pill, adding a door and a stair to get inside it.

Geteken: Thanks! I'm going to add some details on the nanobot soon!
rodrigoessinger: I think that I'll put a simply door on the pill, and...well, after all a pill is always a pill...I dont think I'll make it as a ship.
shakes: Your words guys make me think...I think the pill is quite disturbing in that angle...I was thinking to erase it...but first i'll try to change its place and to add a stair (as an airplane external stair), to underline the idea of "begin-a-journey".
rasamaya: Good questions! I think I'll add some details on the nanobot (as small wires, transistors and tiny hardware) to suggest the kind of energy used...yes, but...which is the energy used? Well, I don't know yet...I hope to find an idea soon!
Thanks for all your suggestions!

[grobouk]

very nice style too, it seems it's more hard to keep a style in 3D; have fun

[ThierryS]

Ciao Marco! Good concept and great modeling as expected. I like it man, this will be looking top notch. That swiss army knife hand is a cool idea.

Good luck for your next steps. Will be back!:bounce: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

[ziriguidum]

nice modeling!! the perspective is excelent too.

[medunecer]

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This is another sketch of the whole scene (I hope the last one!). I still have some troubles with the pill. I think to resolve it when I'll have all the items ready in the scene.

[medunecer]

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This is the start of the model of the first surgeon.

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco you have a lot of great updates here! I especially like the concept with the pill/ship in the right foreground, it does a great job framing the image and centering your view on the nanobot. :buttrock:

Matt :)

[Nothingness]

hey medunecer !

nice concept and progress man!

about the pill: the top solutions looks good but the rocket stands in the way of the doctors looking at the robot!
The second seems to be a logical solution but the pill is a bit out of sight and would be a pitty.
Keep going!

::my journey entry:: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=328661)

[coochaki]

very nice modeling :thumbsup:
looking for more

[SweD]

héhé clean and great !! :thumbsup: splendid idea an very good mods ! cam angle is interesting !

[shakes]

I think the new sketch is better..looks funny! and the doc is coming along well..like the ears!

[alancamara]

Very funny concept, i loved and you started wery well the modeling, keep it up Marco.

Alan

[medunecer]

Hi fellows! Thanks for your comments! That pill makes me crazy! I was thinking to add the right hand of the surgeon in the foreground and maybe make this hand open the pill with a small tool.


grobouk: Thanks for your words! I try to "translate" my 2d style in 3D, but it's very difficult. I hope to improve this style...
thierry2005: Ciao Thierry! Thanks for the comment! I'd like to add some other items to the swiss army knife...
ziriguidum:Thanks! I think it's not the definitive perspective because I'dlike to make it harder.
mmbenya:Hey Matt! Thanks! I like the pill on the right, but I'd like to underline the stairs and the dorr of the pill.
Nothingness: Hey Nico! Thanks for the sugestion for the pill (it's my bigger trouble!)
coochaki:Hi Mohammad! thanks a lot my friend!
SweD:Hi Cyril! Thanks but cam angle is my second biggest trouble! Thanks for the encouragement !
shakes: Hi john! yes, I like the ears too! Thanks!
alancamara:Thanks alan! Lot of stuff to model! I hope to make it in the right way!

[kreuz]

hey...i like your work very very much , full of personal style and characteristic! i am waiting to see more , and post more progress here , i'll be ready to learn some

[Gunilla]

Your modeling is coming along beautiful - just as last time :thumbsup:
The new sketches are much clearer as to what is happening - especially the one with the pill in the foreground works well IMO.
This is going to be a great entry! :)

[marcom]

great idea!

i think the concept with the pill-ship on the right side looks better. even if it makes it harder to see what it is.

[Selina42]

I think the sketches are definately geting there. Perhaps if you had the robot on the top step of the staircase, in mid process of getting into the pill ship that would resolve the problems of putting it in the background so that the focus is on both ship and robot? Your modelling is definately heading in the right direction too!

[smallone3d]

Hey Marco, I laughed when I read your storyline..the suppository!!! hahaha great...
Like others have mentioned I loved the hero idea....but the nanobot is good too...
and it is coming along very nicely. Great updates.

I do like the robot there, being the center of attention, not in the stairs..but give it a shot.
The doctors look great too. How about a sort of funny eye smurk on one of them, real suttle.

Thanks for the updates(again)

Cesar


:thumbsup:

[Larsen]

Nice work so far man, nothing to crit from modeling, this will be very fun !

[Nothingness]

say medunecer,

i was thinking about the pill again :twisted:

what if you put it between the character and that computer on the background. It doesn't even need to bee completely in picture.

It will be:
* smaller and catch a bit less attention than the character
* out of sight of the doktors
* better in sight of the spectators (us)

i guess thats what i would do :hmm:

[medunecer]

Hi fellows! You're giving me many useful advices that help me to resolve a lot of troubles.

kreuz: Thanks my friend, these kind of words give me the right charge!
I hope to upload some updates today.
Gunilla: Thanks Gunie! i hope to make some better rendering this time!...
marcom: I agree with you my friend, that pill is giving me many problems...I think that Selina42 has the right solution...
Selina42: Hi Sel! As I was writing to marcom, I think you give me the right solution, with his foot on the first step of the stairs. I'm goin to make some test directly in the 3D scene. Thanks!
smallone3d: Hi Cesar! thanks...but it was too much! A suppository! Really too much! Anyway, I'm very happy you found it funny! Thanks again!
cipher: Thanks!new models will be here soon!
Nothingness: Good advice! I'll try to make these changes directly in the 3D scene. I'll post the results soon.

Thanks friend. I have a question for you: At what resolution will you render your scenes? Could give me some advices?
Thanks again!

[Nothingness]

these are from the instructions of this challenge:

"A guideline is 2657 pixels wide and/or 3636 high, 300 DPI (portrait), or 3636 pixels wide and/or 2657 pixels high, 300 DPI (landscape). Your image aspect ratio and layout will dictate the final resolution. These are given as guidelines. To be safe, render images that are larger than these specified. "

So anything above these are good.

::the link:: http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/instructions.php

[MacAndre]

like the concepts and all stuff you have made until now. just waiting for updates here. :-)

[Zapan]

Hey Marco !!

Hahaha , sweet concept ! awesome stylish characters !! :scream: ....
Ok Definitely gonna follow this work now , !!
Can't wait for more !

cheers ,

-Zapan

[medunecer]

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I have just started the operating room...I'm having lot of troubles with lights, radiosity, resolution and so on... in this first test I have just one area light, just to see if I can simulate a sort of radiosity. But I think I'll leave the idea of reality.

[medunecer]

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Some instruments in the operating room. I'm quite worried because the operating room should be full of this techno-stuff!

[medunecer]

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the doctor is in! (well, it's too late...I need some rest). See you tomorrow fellows!

[smallone3d]

hey marco

In some of the sketches you have a depth of field blur, can you use some matte painting to simulate the techno stuff.
I like the room so far.

PS: is this all you do? :)
Cesar

[medunecer]

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I think I'll finish the first part of the operating room today. This is one of the details inside it, a surgeon light.

[shakes]

nice work on the operating room Marco-great detailing and colours.

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, great looking updates! The surgeon looks very good, along with the operating room! I'm looking forward to seeing the detail objects in the room. :buttrock:

Matt :)

[Selina42]

Hey Medunecer!

Nice start on the operating room! Obviously theres a lot of equipment which equals a lot of detail work for you -which i'm sure your enjoying tremendously! -but its really paying off and will make this image a treat for the eye!

[medunecer]

Here I am friends! I'm back!
shakes: Hi John! Thanks for your words! I'm going to add some textures soon!
mmbenya: hey Matt! Thanks! The surgeons will be four or five (all without legs...I have to save time!) I hope you'll like the others!
Selina42: Hi Selina! Yes, too many equipment!!! And too many models!
Thanks for your words! You really encourage me!

[Gunilla]

Hey Marco - shame on me, I've missed many of your updates. I really like your beginning setup for the room, very nice coloring and the tech stuff is very clear and precise - just the right style to fit the concept! Wonderful work so far - I didn't expect anything else :)

[medunecer]

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just a quick sketch of my equipe...

[medunecer]

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other surgeons. I try to define the appearance of the surgeons so I can start to add character to my first surgeon model

[Womgoose]

Brilliant concept work :)
You seem to work a bit like me - I'm forever reaching for the sketchbook but mainly it's my way of avoiding the modelling ;)
You however, seem to have the modelling skills as well :D

[arte-i45]

Hey there Marco, wonderful looking concepts! They have a lot of character, can't wait to see them in 3D too. :applause:

Matt :)

[medunecer]

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This is one of the machine inside the operating room.

[shakes]

looking great marco- I like the drawing of the team, and the new machines look good too.
keep it up!

[Womgoose]

Eww reminds me of a gas bottle at the dentists :(

[Nothingness]

i think these are the ones they'll use to blow the little bot to the moon or so :twisted:
i hope the pill is well build ehehehehehhehehe


if you need to add some detail to this thing, you could also make some stickies and kind of blueprints for the flying pill or something. Would be fun to add some small items. Or you can add theseto a part of the wall. Where ever you need to fill in some empty space.


cheers

[arte-i45]

Hey great detail on the detail objects Marco! Things like the little screws or the needles in the gauges are subtle but they add so much to the feel! :deal:

Matt :)

[medunecer]

Thanks fellows! Gunilla: Hey Gunie! Thanks, but I'm too slow! I'd like to model faster...The room is giving me some troubles. I'm afraid that soon I'll loose the control of the whole thing...
Womgoose: Thanks for your kind words Lee; Yes, it's the same gas bottle of the dentist (I'm going to go to the dentist next week. I think I'll bring my camera with me...)
mmbenya: thanks Matt. Maybe there are too many people in my equipe. Too many people=too many models...some doctors will be fired!
shakes: Thanks John. Soon new machines!
Nothingness: Thanks for the good advices. I think I'll put something like that in some monitors or in the empty spaces of the wall.

Goodnight my friends. late night in Italy now. I need some rest. Have a nice journey-day!

[Nothingness]

now i'm looking at the gas bottles again and i think the top (where the meters are) are too small. I've seen enough of these and i find the proportions a bit incorrect.

The screens are a nice idea ! You could also hang up some big lcd's with the blueprints. Or a closeup of the character!

[medunecer]

Hey Nico, you're right. The meters on the top of the gas bottles are too small. I'll make them bigger. Thanks for the advice!

[se7enthcin]

I like the roughness of your concept sketches. Well done.

[medunecer]

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other machines in the operating room...

[marcom]

cool machines!

is this how they will look like colourwise in the end? or just a test? i ike it a lot.

[medunecer]

se7enthcin: Thanks Andrew!
marcom: hey marco, Thanks! No, it's just a test. I have to adjust surfaces and add all the textures...lot work to do!

[Nomad]

Haha exellent idea and comic mood :applause:


I`m keeping an eye on this hilarous work :D

Good luck and have fun:bounce:

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1143844756_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1143844756_large.jpg)

operating room updated. I'm having some troubles with the lights. I have the confirm that I will not use radiosity (too many reflections). So, I try to find a way to light the background scene better.

[geoffb]

Love the renders and sketches up to this point...just one thought...it may be too late to ask...but have you considered trying to make the idea behind the scene show through a little more? I mean you have this great concept...about the mission to "Innerspace" and while I see that the robot is tiny and there is a pill next to him...I'm still struggling with the rest of it....I don't know if this makes sense at all...but its like a photo that you see with a winding road on it, and the road goes off the edge of the paper....it makes me want to go down that road to see where it leads...maybe there is a way to incorporate that into the composition....such as having the subject behind him on a table, with his butt in the air or something....have fun with it...hope this helped.

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, your room is really coming to life! Sorry to hear you had to let some of your doctors go. :sad: ;)

Matt :)

[ThierryS]

Hi Marco, don't worry radiosity is not all! Nice room sofar! Good luck with you light setups:cool:

[Nothingness]

yo marco, i forgot what app u use, or i ever asked or saw it :banghead:
since you're talking about radiocity i can asume you use max?

but wouldn't it be great to deform the background with a bit of a fisheye? Not too much, but just to give is a more realistic and interesting background view.

Also, you could do a simple rendering of the occulasion of the room without the reflection and use it in compositing to get a bit of depth in your shadows.

are you going to use radiocity with your characters?

cheers

[medunecer]

Hey fellows!

Nomad: Thanks my friend! I'll be faster in the next week and I'll post more updates.
geoffb: Hi Geoffrey! You're righ, I think I have to show more of the whole scene. Please, could you take a look at my next updates to give me some other advices about it?
mmbenya: Matt! Those doctors now are working in another hospital...and I think some other will be fired! Too many polygons!!!
thierry2005: Thierry, my friend: radiosity is driving me crazy! It's the same old story: realistic or not? I'm trying to choose; I'd like to find a style between the real world and the fake-puppets world...
Nothingness: Hey Nico! I use Lightwave 3D version 8.5 It's a great software, with a very good rendering engine. I'm using a camera with a 11.5mm objective to render the background that I'll compose in the final image with the characters and other stuff. I think to use the same image as a sort of HDRI to light the characters with radiosity. Or I hope to do so, since the final render dimensions will be 4000x3000.
Good night friends! Talk to you soon! And thanks again for your advices!

[shakes]

looking great Marco..I like the colours alot on the new machines. the room looks great.

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144054771_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144054771_large.jpg)

Dear friends, after a long. troubled night, I decided to eliminate the pill because it fills a big portion of the shot, without giving the shot the right feeling. I'm going to fill that space with the doctors: one of them will be next to the nanobot, maybe with a little clamp in his hand, in the action of taking the nanobot and to mahe him start his journey.

[Zapan]

Hi Marco !!

splendid progress here , the green operating room and the machines are just great !
:thumbsup:

can't wait more , cheers ,

-Zapan

[shakes]

nice update Marco..the scene is really coming together. I think it looks better without the pod. I like the camera angle you've got there.keep it up mate!

[arte-i45]

Wow Marco, your scene is really taking shape! It is so fun getting to see all of the elements come to together like this! :bounce: You have some really great ideas for lighting your scene, thanks for sharing them. :wise:

Matt :)

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144366462_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144366462_large.jpg)

Hi fellows! I just want to share with you my workspace!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144366735_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144366735_large.jpg)

Here you can see the first doctor. I think he will be in the fore ground. I have to move and jitter a little bit the dress and add some textures on the mask.

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144367156_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144367156_large.jpg)

Some other sketches of the equipe. I'm working on the special glasses of the first doctor

[thedirtypaw]

absolutely GREAT ideea =)) i just want to see it done really !

[geoffb]

Its definitely coming along...keep it up

[medunecer]

Hey fellows!

Zapan: You're too good my friend! thanks! The room and the machines are driving me crazy! I'm very happy that you like it!
shakes: Thanks John. i agree with you: I prefer this shot without the pill.
mmbenya: Thanks a lot Matt!
thedirtypaw: Hi Nicolau! I really hope to fnish this piece!
geoffb: Thanks Geoffrey!

[Nothingness]

hey medunecer,

it's starting to look awsome mate. The doctor is looking sweet. I only got two remarks dear friend :argh:

but anyway, here they are: the peace hanging infront of his mouth: make sure there are some shadows, so it doesn't look too flat like the one render. A bit like the render with the cyan background would already be something.
Second: the eyes get alot of attention due to the hair and mouth thing. Maybe put a little more detail in the eyes. The focus of the character is on this part so you should pay the most attention to this part of the face! You could mix in some different colors like greay and green - while keeping the blue alive. See some closeups of irises to see how mych color there actually is.

cheers,

doing great.
I'm busy on texturing right now. What a pain in the a**

[medunecer]

thanks Nico; I'm going to fix all the troubles this night. I'm going to add glasses on his face (a special kind of glasses...) and some diffusion-bump on mask. The iris is my great trouble, in every character of mine. I saw the eyes of the characters of shakes and I think this is the right way to made great eyes. Thank for the useful advices!

[Nothingness]

well, i did it an other way! Shakes made some great ones, but doing with a lot of layering. I found a great iris, maped it on a sphere from a certain angle, then rasterized it acording to the uv of the sphere. The i could easily ajust the texture to get a iris that was rather the same everywere. Then all you need to do is make some changes in color. And of course the white of the eye.

But there are so many ways.

[medunecer]

I'll make some experiments...thanks!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144491471_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144491471_large.jpg)

Surfing in the web,I discovered some images with surgeon with this strange thing on theyr head...it's too strange and I think it gives to this character a plus.

[Gunilla]

Oh - those galsses are really great, will add to the overall hightech feel :thumbsup:
So, have you decided what kind of lighting you will use? I think this one might benefit from a less realistic lighting and more dramatic - but that's my personal preferences of course :)
Anyway, you're doing great - love all this techstuff in your scene!

[medunecer]

Hi Gunie! No, I didn't decide yet the light, but I agree with you with a more dramatic lighting. Thanks for your comment!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144543666_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144543666_large.jpg)

This is almost the final stage of the first doctor. I'm doing some tests with radiosity, raytracing and sub level, to understand something more about the final render time.

[kreuz]

i love your work very very much ...:cry:

[shakes]

he looks great so far Marco-I like the colours you're using for this. nice hospital blue.

[irananimator]

thats so nice idea.... the character has been done nicely,,, hope you will do it well my friend :thumbsup:

[gary-smith]

Nice work on the concept and modeling, the topology looks perfect. I would fix the clothing such as the cover shirt and mask (on the top part) where it looks unsmooth, other than that it looks great. Good luck in the competition :D

[geoffb]

Wow the doctor looks amazing! Love the render! The only thing I saw is that I would add some more wrinkles in the mask...I've uploaded a pic I found with a super quick google search...to show you what I mean. Can't wait to see the rest!

http://www.eyeassociates.com/Images%202/Surgeon%20expanded%20fields.jpg

[Larsen]

Great progress with this doctor, the render is really nice, i have to agree with geoffb about the cloth pleat because now it looks a bit rigid...

Keep it up the good work !

[Womgoose]

Great work on the doc, the render is lovely.

[thedirtypaw]

you know about that disc with the little hole in the center of it ? it's made from "mirror" like material and it's also placed on doc's heads and it's supposed to reflect and channel the light to the point where the doc is looking and through the little hole he is supposed to see sumthin.well thats an weirder alternative to your doc? just an opinion

very nice model , but you must think what kind o flightning will make your scene better? if realistic one or more dramatic sin city like one ?

[centurionit]

Hi Marco, I don't know how I Could lost you thread...Is very nice the concept...In a good composition it will be great....Good luck man :thumbsup:

Inlglese orribile, ma spero tu mi abbia capito...bel lavoro che stai facendo....ti seguirò con interesse!!!

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=330707

[coochaki]

great work man!
lokking for more... .. .

[medunecer]

Hey fellows!

kreuz: Thanks for your words!
shakes: Thanks John: I like the "hospital blue" too; I think I'm going to add some green too...
iran_animator: Thanks Hamed! I'll improve him a little bit in the next days!
Necksmasher: Hi gary, thanks for your advices: The clothing will be fixed soon. It has a strange "plastic" look...Thanks!
geoffb: Yesss! I got it! It' one of the first pictures I found during the concept stage! But your image is bigger so more useful to me! Thank you my friend!
cipher: You're right Sebastien; clothing too rigid. I have to fix it soon!!! Thanks.
Womgoose: Thank you Lee. I hope to reach the right "rendering feeling" soon...
thedirtypaw: Hi Nicolau. Yes, I know what you're talking about: but I think to use more modern harware for the doctors. Thanks for the advice!
centurionit: Hey Mauro! Thanks for your words! The composition is giving me tons of troubles! I hope to find a way out..!
Mauro, il tuo inglese mi sembra veramente ottimo e comunque molto meglio del mio, che rimane maccheronico nonostante io mi sforzi per migliorarlo! grazie per i commenti. Spero di arrivare alla fine del tunnel! Buon lavoro collega!

[medunecer]

Thanks Mohammad! I'm going to post more right now...

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144599078_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1144599078_large.jpg)

Building the whole scene.

[thedirtypaw]

very nce composition! :thumbsup: i couldnt see it before and now its great and you're right the modern hardware works better :) run some wires through the doc's head ? a little sumthin sumthin ? keep up the good work :) !

[rasamaya]

Hi, again! I see yours is comming along well, I didnt read your thread again, but its the Nano bot journey right? Is that One giant scene or a comp? Looks good. Its nice to model a lab, great additions to the collection! I am having trouble seeing the swiss medical knife... but it looks as if your still adding detail. One more critique- It is a low resolution of your original, but I am having trouble feeling the depth, maybe its the reflection of the table, It doesnt seem to be right, also perhaps having a tool on the table and his hand resting on it? also reflecting? I dont know, but I am having trouble with the depth, Maybe give us a sample of the full resolution?

Ok, I am just jealous. ha ha, I am, your scene is coming together so well, I have so many things I havnt begun to model.

CYA!

[shakes]

looks really fantastic Marco-one point though..as soon as I saw it, I thought the bot was in the background, then realised it was under the microscope. although I love the composition, maybe you need to have the camera looking upwards more, to make it clear.

that said, everything works beautifully- your colours and modelling really bring the whole scene together..congrats mate!

[arte-i45]

Wow Marco, it looks like you are leaving everybody in the dust! :applause: At least you're leaving me there anyway! The scene is coming together great, you have put together a wonderful composition! :beer:

Matt :)

[medunecer]

Thanks John! Good advice. I'll try it!

Hey Matt! You're too kind! But I have to say that I'm in the dust when I see works as your! Thank you so much my fellow!

[Womgoose]

Brilliant...

<--- jealous lol

Great work Marco, it looks so close to being finished already!

[JurajMolcak]

Finally here :wavey: First of all, Good luck with the challenge. I am big fan of your micronaut theme as well I was fancy your Spectacular outlandish one. Very nice progress and everything within your thread, so big compliment from me.
You still need to light your scene, don´t you? So, I will be very happy with clear medical light and lots of display lights and LED lights on your medical stuff. Also, you can add somethin like ray of light from microlens or something to point that nanobot is under your microscope ( I think that the real ones have something like spot light to underlight object of study )
Keep up great work!

[pierite]

Excellent point of view for your composition ! with a good idea. I want to see more :D

[medunecer]

Womgoose: Hey lee! Thank you so much for your words!
Oweron: Hi Juraj! Thank you! Sure, I still have to light my scene. Your suggestion about the led lights is very useful. Now I'm trying to find a way to add the light under the nanobot. Let's see...
pierite: Thank you my friend! Soon I'll post more, plus a surprise...

[Nothingness]

great job on the doctor, marco!

lokking at the latest update, it seems you're ready to finalise your image. Damn, i have such a long way to go.


Good luck

[medunecer]

Hey Nico! Thanks for your words! I'm looking at your great entry and I think you're at a good point! Your journey is going well! I think your final image will be great!

[ThierryS]

NIce progress Marco, that perspective is just perfect, and the angle/fish eye effect is working well with the hospital green you chose. Great doctor model too:thumbsup: . Seems you're almost over with it...

[cgoz]

very nice...

are you going to use DOF effect?

[medunecer]

Hi fellows! I'm back after a short holiday. It's time for me to call the doctors one more time!


cgoz: Yes my friend, I'm going to use DOF effect, but...well, I think I'll use a fake DOF (blurring the G layer in PS). I'll make some tests in 3d first.
thierry2005: Thanks my friend! I started to wear surgeon clothes and to ask people "say AAAAAAAA"... I'm going out of my head...

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145405573_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145405573_large.jpg)

Hey fellows! This is the second surgeon. I'm going to model the last one tomorrow in the morning. Do you think three docs are enough? Soon I'll post the comp with all the surgeons.
See you tomorrow!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145447156_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145447156_large.jpg)

She's the last surgeon. The third. Now I'm going to put all the models together in the scene to get tha final composition. And to see what's coming out...

[thedirtypaw]

ok... i like this surgeon better than the doc.. really... its.. its... shes gorgeous :) keep doing it right !

[Nothingness]

medunecer, you're getting there alright!

Maybe you can give her green eyes! Just to calm down on the blue! You'd almost thing she's the sister of the doctor :p
and how about some wrinkles under the eyes to have a more real look. Remember: because the mouth is covered, all the attention of the character goes to the eyes! So keep good attention to it.

cheers

[medunecer]

thedirtypaw: thanks my friend! she's my favourite....
Nothingness:hey Nico! They're all brothers! I made them from the same base model to save time. I made a model called "surgeon_general"; then, from that first model, I made those three surgeons.
About the details: unfortunately all the human character will be in BG and the BG will be blurred because the DOF. So, I prefer to save time making the BG figures less detailed.

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145459900_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145459900_large.jpg)

Dear CGTalk fellows: my equipe; Equipe: My CGTalk fellows.
I'll work on this group of characters. As you can see, I have to fix some joint problems and make more detailed textures (I think I'll change the mask texture).

[glenn23]

I love this crew! I'm a little concerned about where the point of entry's going to be with the look on the middle doc though!

[melkao]

jejeje pretty original....very cool idea:thumbsup:

[Womgoose]

It's looking great Marco, well done :)

[Gunilla]

Doc crew looks great - very determined and ready to proceed :thumbsup:
I like it how you managed to make individuals of them, even with so little of their faces showing - great touch!

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, you've done a superb job taking the doctors from concept to finished models, they look great! I especially like the way you handle the faces of your characters! :applause:The scene is just too cool! :deal:

Matt :)

[medunecer]

Hey fellows! Thank you very much for your comments!

glenn23: Thanks Glenn! I'm going to organize the composition today, moving the characters in the BG.
melkao; Womgoose: Thanks mates!
Gunilla; mmbenya: Thanks my friends; I like the crew too! But, as you know, they will be blurred in BG...

[coochaki]

nice update!

great characters! i like them!
keep going---->... .. .

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145526856_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145526856_large.jpg)

The three characters are rigged with bones, but I think I'll model the poses directly on the objects, because fixing all the rigs will take lot of time. What do you think about it?

[M477]

Oh my god, seeing the three of them there looking at me like that... I get a little concerned that I am on the operating table! :argh:

Nice work, a great idea too - should look really nice when you're done :thumbsup:

[ChewyPixels]

Nice update. I like the way you modeled the wrinkles on their masks.

I do think the specularity is a bit too high on the gloves though. Surgeons gloves are less specular.

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, DOF or no they will still look great in the scene! Besides that I think that their character will show through. Love the new closeup, you can see all of the little details that you've modeled into the clothing. :applause:




Matt :)

[FlaminGlow]

Very nice models and poses, good luck.

[shakes]

love the gang marco, particularly the girl..dead ringer for Lara Flynn Boyle!

[medunecer]

M477: Hey Matt! No fear, they're just supervising the disty job that the nanobot will make on the operating room...Thanks for your words!
Jedi-Juice: problem on the gloves will fixed soon. Thanks for the advice and for your words!
mmbenya:Hi Matt! Thanks! I have to fix the clothes look; I'm still worried about the FG, DOF ando so on...Today I'll start the final renderings (I'll render different layers)...
FlaminGlow: Thanks Mohammed!
shakes: Thanks shakes! Well, I tried to involve Lara, but she was too busy...maybe next time...(I love that girl!)

[Womgoose]

Hehe I agree with Matt. It makes me feel a bit spooked with them looking over me like that :eek:

I like it a lot, the detail on the cloth wrinkles is very nice indeed.

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145718146_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145718146_large.jpg)

Ok: I'm entered in the final part of my journey. In this week I'll start the renderings. I'm testing render times, because this time I'm going to use radiosity, HDRI and all those stuff that make a computer a very very very slooow machine! milions of polys, high subdivision level, ray tracing, all in a 6000x5000 300dpi pixel. Or I hope so...

[medunecer]

...sorry for the mistake. I mean "all in a 6000x5000 300dpi image"...

[melkao]

Cool robot...you have a nice job there:wip:

[Gunilla]

love the gang marco, particularly the girl..dead ringer for Lara Flynn Boyle!

My thoughts exactly! It looks very much like her.

Marco - good luck with your rendering! I'm looking forward to hear how it goes - having some render issues myself ATM so maybe I can get some ideas :thumbsup:

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, good luck on the render, sounds like your computer has its work cut out for it. :D The scene should look great though when you have it finished. I can't wait to see it when the smoke settles! :bounce:

OT: I always thought that was Teri Hatcher in MIBII not Lara Flynn Boyle, don't ask me why. :p

Matt :)

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145749837_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145749837_large.jpg)

Hi fellows. Can't sleep tonight. And I'm having first problems with rendering...what is that artifact on the saw? I have to fix this stupid bug!

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Marco, don't worry about the artifact on the saw at all -- you're the only one who knows it's an artifact...looks cool to the rest of us. The colors in general -- soft green tone to the whole render -- is very nice too. Look forward to seeing more, good luck.

[Kragh]

Just went through the entire thread, love tghe concept very much...!

I agree on the saw not being a problem. Please don´t use time on that part, as it really looks like it´s supposed to be there...

Btw, you sketching skills are amazing, love how you can create a pose which that few lines...:D

[Womgoose]

Now that is one really cool looking arm!
Kind of scary but still cool (fear the needle eww).

I agree with the others, I didn't spot the artifact until I studied it.
It would be quicker to PS it in post if it really bothers you ;)

It looks like it is being caused by the overal material though. Perhaps the shape of the blade is confusing it somehow.

Maybe a very slight bevel to the top edge would fix it?

[medunecer]

melkao: Thanks my friend! I just have to add 1 texture on it...
Gunilla: Thanks Gunie! I agree and let me say once again: wonderful girl Lara! Waiting for rendering-suggestions...thanks!
mmbenya: hey Matt! Thanks fellow! I have all my 4 computers at work! I have the notebook that is rendering too! If you hear about a big explosion in Roma in the news, well think about me...(Teri Hatcher is very cute, but I prefer Lara!)
oceanbluesky: Thanks my friend;; That artifact is disturbing me very much, but you're right; I have to go on!
Kragh: Thanks fellow! Your words encourage me so much!
Womgoose:Yess! The needle i s very disturbing! I really hate these things! Good suggestion: I'll try to bevel the top! Thans!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145798074_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145798074_large.jpg)

some nanobot fragments

[arte-i45]

Hey Marco, like the others have said, don't worry about the artifact. :D If it is really bothering you you can always take it out in post pro. One thing that I find interesting about some problems; when you would want to make something work like that you might have to put a lot of effort into it. :shrug:

Matt :)

[Edit] Hey I just saw that you uploaded some details. Awesome close-ups! :eek: Okay I've opened the padio door, I should be able to hear it. ;) Oh and I just couldn't put a face with Lara Flynn Boyle so I had to Google her.

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145813716_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145813716_large.jpg)

I'm trying to find the right pose for the nanobot...(Matt, thanks for the encouragement! This is the real hard part of the job for me: light and comp will give me some troubles...)

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145813915_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145813915_large.jpg)

Some quick, fake compositing tests. This is the first one. I'm trying to find the right blurring level. Any idea? Thanks!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145814459_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145814459_large.jpg)

another test with the blurring effect that I'll add in the final comp...

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145814628_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145814628_large.jpg)

These images are just a test for the blurring effect; The final composition will have another shot.

[Womgoose]

I suppose technically the entire background would be blurred out because the camera would be macro zoomed on the little nanobot. It wouldn't be very interesting though and it would hide the beautiful work you did on the characters.
It is hard to tell if the blur is correct on small images. I think it is one of those things that either looks right or not on the full image.

All the tests are looking good though. It looks very smooth and natural looking.
Is it done in PS?

[Vedic-kings]

Your work is great so far, im really likeing your scene!

[medunecer]

Womgoose: Thank you Lee. I'm worried about the blurring level. I wish to show the whole crew more detailed and not so blurred. The operating room and the hardware in it are interesting too. I have to find a smart way to show all these things not so blurred...
Yes, it is PS

Vedic-kings: Thanks my friend. I hope to fix all the troubles in it!

[shakes]

wooah..LOVELY slick and clean renders of the parts, very nice Marco!..and Lara looks superb..you got her pale skin perfect!

[centurionit]

Hi Marco...About the models nothing to critic...Only the inferior eyelid, you ahve to pull it a bit... about the blur....Don't know what to say, I have to see the composition with all the characters...Ma se li renderizzi ognuno in layer separati dopo potrai giocare con la sfocatura come vuoi...:thumbsup:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=330707

[unwrap]

I saw your robot turntable, very nice.

[medunecer]

shakes: Thanks John! I think I'm going to improve Lara in the near future...
centurionit: Thanks for the suggestions Mauro. I'll make separate renderings, but the memory is very low the same... I'm afraid I'll render all without radiosity...
sergage: Thanks Sergio!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145922930_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145922930_large.jpg)

some other fragments of the nanobot. I have updated him adding some texures

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145923287_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1145923287_large.jpg)

this is going to be the final shot.I tried to test again the blurred BG.

[JurajMolcak]

Progressing very very good here! And I love colors you are developing here as well. I dont think it is good to test blured background without all elements within ( where are your DOCs ? ). One thing that really looks strange to me is that hi-fi system in your background, ha ha ha :scream: Keep up great work and good luck with deadline hunting :thumbsup:

[melkao]

This is truly a cool robot desing....good work:buttrock:

[Gunilla]

Very nice compo tests - I think the upper one would work best if we're going to see what's in the room. I really like the realistic approach you have for this "half-realistic" scene, cool!

[Womgoose]

This is just so great Marco m8.
Normally we would be saying ti looks too clean but in this situation it would be lol.
Eww you added evil liquid to the evil syringe :eek:

I like it all so much from the renders to the composition to the little brave robot.

[shakes]

great Marco, just great! the top blur I like the best..maybe lighten botty a bit more and bring out those lovely glossy colours more on him? love the closeups!

[medunecer]

Hey guys! You have always very kind words for my work, and it helps me very much especially in moment like this: My day just finished and I realize that I can't use radiosity in my scene. It's too big and my lazy computer should be rendering for days, even if I render single objects.
I made some tests today and I have to forget radiosity! So sad!
Oweron:Thanks mate! Your comment about the hi-fi system made me laugh a lot! To tell the truth, it's an image about an operating room that I'm using as HDRI source. Doctors will be here soon...
melkao: Thanks fellow!
Gunilla: Thanks Gunie! I have appreciated your comment about my mix with "real" and "well, not so real". I'm working to improve this way to make my illustration.
Womgoose: Thanks mate! I like it so clean too! Shiny and clean! It's quite alarming, as the mysterious pink liquid...
shakes: Useful suggestion as usual! Thanks! I'll do it!
Good night fellows. See you tomorrow.

[shakes]

My day just finished and I realize that I can't use radiosity in my scene. It's too big and my lazy computer should be rendering for days, even if I render single objects.
I made some tests today and I have to forget radiosity! So sad!


hey Marco, why not render everything out seperately and composite in post? there's no way I could render my scene in one pass-I'll be doing everything as seperate renders with alpha channels- would be a big shame if you lost your radiosity look.

[medunecer]

Hey shakes! Sure, I'll make separate renderings, but rendering times are too long the same: too many reflections and other sucking-memory stuff!

I don't want to loose that feeling, but I think I have no other way...it's a great problem...

[shakes]

Hey shakes! Sure, I'll make separate renderings, but rendering times are too long the same: too many reflections and other sucking-memory stuff!

how long is too long? hours..days? we got a month!!

[medunecer]

...About two/three days for rendering with good AA, radiosity, raytracing etc.

(for each object in the forground)

[shakes]

...About two/three days for rendering with good AA, radiosity, raytracing etc.
(for each object in the forground)

OUCH!!..for each object? I hope you win, so you get a new puter Marco!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146007240_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146007240_large.jpg)

Here you can see how the final shot will look like (more or less). The doctor with the little clamp underline the concept of beginning of a journey.
Bheind the FG there will be other elements to strengthen this concept.

[medunecer]

You're right shakes: I really think it's time to buy a new computer! And more, more, more RAM! I need it!

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146047337_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146047337_large.jpg)

I'm doing some tests and these are the first results:

Only for the nanobot
Rendered fragment size: 1750x800
Subdivision level:4
Radiosity ON (intensity 95%; 4x12 Rays per evaluation)
Raytracing for shadows, transparency, reflection and refraction
AA enhanched low

39 minutes 25 seconds

Now I'm going to make a render test of the whole nanobot

[Womgoose]

The lighting quality is stunning.
I wonder if you could achieve the same material look with falloff maps?
although, I bet it is the radiosity that is causing the huge render times :(

[melkao]

Wow the ligthing is amazing....how you did it?:thumbsup:

[medunecer]

Hey fellows!

Womgoose: Thanks for your words and for suggestion: I have to study falloff maps technique. Could you give me some tips about it? (radiosity is driving me crazy!)

melkao: Thanks my friend! just a white key light (front), fill on the right (green), light from bottom (microscope light), HDRI and Montecarlo radiosity.

[Womgoose]

What program do you use Marco?

[medunecer]

I use LightWave 3D 8.5 (waiting to update to 9). The program is great; I think it's time to get a 64 bit pc...

[Womgoose]

Hmm I'm not familiar with lightwave at all :(
Erm, what does the render look like with just HDRI?

[shakes]

good luck with your tests marco!

[medunecer]

Hi fellows, some updates from the operating room:
nanobot rendering 5000x3500 radio on, sub lev 4, NO AA
approx 10h!


Womgoose: I'm going to try it without radio. Good advice!
shakes: Thanks my friend. I'll need it!

[Womgoose]

I have total faith. Your skills are good enough to make it look even better without radiosity and reduce the render times to hours not days :thumbsup:
Good luck m8.

[Nothingness]

hey medunecer,

just a quick suggestion: wouldn't the hand with the clamp be better of being bigger? Making it look more macro cause now the doktor looks rather small.
Great lighting too


good luck

[FlaminGlow]

what a nice work you are doing ! amazing so far BTW the previous image has not been intialized well choos a better rendering intializer.:thumbsup:

[medunecer]

Hi friends! Renderings started!
Womgoose: Thanks for your words! Really helpful! I'm using radiosity...with some tricks that I'll post soon.
Nothingness: Good suggestion. I'll try to do it! Thanks!
FlaminGlow: Thanks Mohammed.You're right, but the next images will be better. I hope so...

[medunecer]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146309655_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10029/10029_1146309655_large.jpg)

It's render time!

[coochaki]

great work man .:thumbsup:
i like it
keep going---->... .. .
other than this --- .> nice avator :D

[Gunilla]

Aha! Operation Rendering have started! Cool pic :thumbsup:
Good luck with the rendering now, hope you get through it without any problems - the result should be awesome, I'm sure!

[Nothingness]

time is going fast now :argh: :cry: :banghead:

Can't wait to see your final!

i'll be off all night on my challenge. It's about time.

[medunecer]

Sorry for delay, I was in the operating room...
coochaki: Thanks fellow! I hope you like the final too!
Gunilla: Hey Gunie! Thanks my friend, I'll need a lot of luck with renderings...
Nothingness: Thanks Nico! Have a "journey" night!

[shakes]

go Lara! she could pull out my appendix anytime! looks great Marco..like your adjusted avatar, too, Doc!

[oceanbluesky]

Ouch!! I need a doctor! Help! --Marco, great job! Love her eyes...very clever new avatar icon too. Good luck!


(just noticed the side of her hand beneath her pinky looks a bit wide? maybe it is the way gloves fit though...or maybe it won't matter with the pose you have in mind?)