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urgaffel
02-28-2006, 11:21 AM
Peter Åsberg is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=9723)

Latest Update: Concept Sketch: More detailed concept
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1145379186_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3464829#post3464829)

sergioKomic
02-28-2006, 11:26 AM
Wooohooo gooooooo Peter!


:thumbsup::scream:

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 11:31 AM
Hehe, thought I'd give it a shot after being absent for the last... 11 or so? challenges.

*edit*

Make that the last 17 or so challenges :blush:

Elsie
02-28-2006, 11:34 AM
Yay baby *hugs* glad to see you entering this :love: you realise that you have three months to do this, not three years? :p *runs away*

Best of luck, darling ;)

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 12:05 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141128305_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141128305_large.jpg)

Not sure wether to go for microscopic journey or "normal" journey... So here's a quick doodle of a fairly traditional epic outlook :)

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 02:05 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141135545_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141135545_large.jpg)

More environment tests, just playing around to get a feel for where to take this thing ^^

beelow
02-28-2006, 02:07 PM
Welcome Bud! Good luck with ur entry!:thumbsup:

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 02:10 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141135806_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141135806_large.jpg)

More environment tests, just playing around to get a feel for where to take this thing ^^

*edit*

Thanks Beelow :) Just spamming concepts/5 minute doodles since I have no idea where to take this thing heh... I want to at least try to stay away from your typical fantasy epic journey. It's been done so many times... And who says it has to be a journey from A to B, could be a minds journey... Argh so many possibilities :D

Agamemnwn
02-28-2006, 02:55 PM
YES finally :D . go peter go peter :D will b watching and pushing and commenting to finish this after 17 no entrys :D

Elsie
02-28-2006, 02:58 PM
*pokes Peter* Nice colours with that last one! Waiting for some concrete ideas now *poke poke*

(Yeah okay, we're not all unemployed like me :D)

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 04:00 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141142453_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141142453_large.jpg)

It's kind of similar to the image Leaving the Fifties but not quite... Also not sure if this fits within the guidelines but what the hell :)

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 04:08 PM
Hehe, thanks Aggie, I will need it

Elsie, you know me, I can't make decisions ^^ We'll see what I decide on but I don't have any concrete ideas yet :) Micro voyage? Fantasy-but-not-really-fantasy voyage? Gritty -hetto-to-shiny-future voyage? Desert voyage? I have no idea!

sergioKomic
02-28-2006, 05:23 PM
How bout a widescreen one?:bounce:

Carina
02-28-2006, 05:26 PM
Hey I really like the last update!

17 challenges? This is the first one I've entered since the Hapless Hero one, heh. Not sure how many challenges ago that was! :)

Pufferfish
02-28-2006, 06:06 PM
Hi urgaffel!

Great to see you in this challenge as well! I wish you all the best for the challenge :)

I really like the "sahara" looking concept of yours. Very peaceful.
Waiting to see more. Keep on posting :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
02-28-2006, 06:16 PM
good luck Peter!!! :bounce:

Joblh
02-28-2006, 06:54 PM
I like your last concept, nice composition and idea :)

Good luck with your entry! :thumbsup:

Vedic-kings
02-28-2006, 06:58 PM
Wow, love your sketches! Good luck!

urgaffel
02-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Thanks Job and Vedic Kings :) Will see what more I can come up with before I settle on a concept.

flyingP
02-28-2006, 07:39 PM
well I hope you are better at this than UT :D .... no hang on....er....bastard :D

pluMmet
03-01-2006, 07:28 AM
I think they are pretty clear on the microscopic environment. Might as well play to win.

Good luck Peter :)

MichaelZHsee
03-01-2006, 07:36 AM
the last one is very nice indeed~keep them coming man:)

rodrigoessinger
03-02-2006, 10:32 PM
I think I like best the idea of the poor child on the street.

Hobbits, fairies, etc... they have been over exposed, LOL.

Good luck.

paperclip
03-03-2006, 12:43 AM
Hey Peter!

I'm over in the 2D challenges, so venture in here rarely. Just had to reply here!

I like the first idea and also the desert idea. What would be really good would be if you could combine them somehow- the lost people in the desert. It could be great!

Actually....you just gave me an idea for my own challenge...*sneaks off into PS*

urgaffel
03-03-2006, 12:25 PM
well I hope you are better at this than UT :D .... no hang on....er....bastard :D

Mwehehehe... Speaking of UT, it's a long time since I could spank your piggy ass, we need to get a game going with the others too!

I think they are pretty clear on the microscopic environment. Might as well play to win.

Good luck Peter :)

Thanks :) Not sure what to do with concepts since I can't think of a cool micro-journey so I'm leaning either towards poor slum dwellers struggling on a journey to the golden towers (or something along those lines) or something darker... No concrete ideas yet but I saw rebeccas concepts with decay and death and that made me think hehe.

the last one is very nice indeed~keep them coming man:)

Thanks, I have been slacking off the last week or so though... Have A LOT to do at work so can't really do any concepts and I can't draw at home since my wacom pen has run away :sad: For now I'm just trying to get through the deadline and think of new concepts. Really liking your concepts, wish I could whip out concepts of that quality in 15 minutes ^^

I think I like best the idea of the poor child on the street.

Hobbits, fairies, etc... they have been over exposed, LOL.

Good luck.

Yeah, fantasy scapes and fairies/hobbits etc are overdone but you can still be original although it's harder heh. Still, I'm more interested in dark, grimey depressing stuff (hmm... dark grimey fantasy?) which doesn't come across at all in the concepts :D Need to think some more and survive the deadline before I can do some more concepts though. Will try to come up with something new and interesting sooooon

Hey Peter!

I'm over in the 2D challenges, so venture in here rarely. Just had to reply here!

I like the first idea and also the desert idea. What would be really good would be if you could combine them somehow- the lost people in the desert. It could be great!

Actually....you just gave me an idea for my own challenge...*sneaks off into PS*

Hmm... A vast epic desert scape could be cool indeed... Argh so many different concepts to try out and so little talent with drawing stuff :sad: Will try to do a desert scape as well... Maybe I can combine the desert with death and decay... :twisted:

flyingP
03-03-2006, 12:27 PM
Mwehehehe... Speaking of UT, it's a long time since I could spank your piggy ass, we need to get a game going with the others too!


I could be persuaded ;)

Pete2003
03-03-2006, 12:53 PM
I really like that last concept. But then again, Ive always liked 'Leaving the Fifties' and still have that image on my desktop :) I like the simpler layout and 'playful' colour scheme in your concept though, but looking forward to see what else you come up with!

Pete.

urgaffel
03-07-2006, 06:27 PM
I know I've been fairly absent from the challenge (I blame no internet at home and crazy deadlines). And I don't have any image to post. But I do however have an idea! I was thinking of what I could do with this to make it darker and Pulp Fiction came to mind, or rather, Samuel Jacksons quote from the bible: Though I walk in the valley of death... which made me think of a nice dark and evil valley with decaying twisted plants and shadow creatures. Another myth that I find inspiring is that of Orpheus and Eurydice and the journey through Hades.

So, where does that leave me? With a lot of images and ideas I need to compile into something coherent :) I also took a look at the challenge page to see what they want from the entries. Probably a good idea since I've almost become lost in all the great entries not knowing what to do :)

In this Challenge entrants must depict a scene that encapsulates the emotions and trappings of a character (or group) setting out on an epic journey. The final works must demonstrate a depth of story and view that shows the character(s) up close and the journey beyond. This can be metaphorical, though it must be clear (without any explanation) how the image depicts a character departing on a great journey.

The key theme of this challenge is to portray the emotions of a character, or characters, about to embark on some kind of journey. It is recommended that entrants focus on physically small characters (bugs, Hobbits, Elves, Children, Faeries, birds, animals, micro robots - whatever) in a foreground setting against a vast backdrop of epic proportions (by comparison).

This means I could have a pair of children setting out on a journey to find their lost parents which would incoporate both sketch no 2 (colours and mood) and sketch no 3, big sibling with small sibling in tow setting out on an epic journey to find their parents even if they have to find their way into the netherworld to do so...

So what say ye?

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 06:32 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141128305_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1141128305_large.jpg)
Me likes the floaty thingy! :bounce:Maybe they could be coming out a jungle setting, which would frame the floating island thingabmabob ~ lots of light / yellow / greens in the clearing, then lots of nice dark greens / blues purples in the vines...with the two kids peering out...?

Agamemnwn
03-07-2006, 06:35 PM
great idea Peter, I like it very much and the way u are thinking about it with the evil enviroment will be very emotional :D

LadyMedusa
03-07-2006, 06:38 PM
I'd go by the firs or the last one.
The floating island on the first one looks very inspiering, but I also like the lonely kid. How abou a mix?

urgaffel
03-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Me likes the floaty thingy! :bounce:Maybe they could be coming out a jungle setting, which would frame the floating island thingabmabob ~ lots of light / yellow / greens in the clearing, then lots of nice dark greens / blues purples in the vines...with the two kids peering out...?

But the challenge is meant to depict a start of a journey and floating islands have been done before :p Besides, you're the one whos dark and depraved and decaying stuff that got me thinking that I prefer darkness and death before happy pastels. Which I've always done so why I started concepting with that is a bit of a mystery hehe...

Aggie, glad you like it :) I hope I can deliver hehe

Valentina, hmm... EVIL floating island :D But yeah, it will probably be a pair of kids setting off to find their parents who might or might not be dead or maybe the world is slowly descending into darkness (anyone who's read Berserks knows what I mean), twisting reality and nature into dark and tortured shapes... And a floatin island or two :)

Mwehehehe... Darkness and deacay here I come http://www.urgaffel.com/images/insane.gif

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 06:40 PM
The key will be to somehow show the parents as part of the story...maybe a photo sticking out of a knapsack...Or...something to suggest something has happened...like a smashed photo in a bedroom and the window open, with the children huddled under the bed or something...something to suggest but not spell out what happened...

What about two kids peering into a basement where there is a gigantic eerie glow? Where
you see the parents being consumed by something in the floor, maybe with an arm sticking out or something, think Madeleine L'engle and her series...

urgaffel
03-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Rebecca, considering I'm not sure what has happened to the parents myself, we will see... But I will definitely try to show that they are awol ;)

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 06:44 PM
Is it something diabolical / fantasy, or something tragic? Is the focus of the piece to be mysterious in a serious way, or merely entertaining to show the wonder of the kids?

urgaffel
03-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Is it something diabolical / fantasy, or something tragic? Is the focus of the piece to be mysterious in a serious way, or merely entertaining to show the wonder of the kids?

Weeeeeeeeeeeell... *grabs a pipe and puffs thoughtfully for a while* I haven't had it all out just yet but what I'd like to depict would be the fear of not knowing what has happened to your loved ones, especially someone as important to you as a parent is when you are young. It wouldn't be so much wonder as fear, courage and to convey a sense of foreboding. They are setting out on a journey that they don't know where it will lead them but there are hints of darkness and decay about them getting more pronounced the further away you look. I want to do subtle things like in Lindas M/S piece "Spoiled" and "All that I loved is gone". Small details that you only notice after viewing it for a little while, apart from the more obvious things in the background (shadow creatures?)... So I guess it would be a tiny bit fantasy, a bit devilish in my cruelty to my subjects (the kids), mysterious in a serious way since what happened to the parents is a mystery and... I don't know... Does it make sense?

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 06:57 PM
First, how good are you at modeling characters? Can you tell the story with just objects / shadows / or can you pull off something this emotive with convincing people? You don't have to show a whole person to tell a narrative...even the hands would suffice.

The best thing to do would do be do a bunch of small comps ~ like 4" max width at 72 dpi. Just throw around some ideas, or draw them traditionally in pencil if it's easier.

Thoughts are images, so try comping them out. :)

Depends on how personal you want this story to be, too, and how transparent. All personal history is fodder for art, as far as I'm concerned ~ I say, go for it.

Agamemnwn
03-07-2006, 07:08 PM
even the hands would suffice.

I did that i did that :D :D :D

Elsie
03-07-2006, 07:08 PM
What's wrong with pastel colours :D? (Says the girl with a blood red, rotting and currently nude picture. Ahem).

I think it sounds like a great idea, I like the idea of the two little kids lost in the big bad world ^^ got the opportunity to add a lot of interesting and subtle things there. Which means that we will probably see this finished by...oh...2010? :p

Looking forward to seeing this a bit more developed ^^ :love:

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 07:08 PM
I did that i did that :D :D :D
LOL!!! :D :D :D

LadyMedusa
03-07-2006, 07:09 PM
I love the Idea of adding some subtle effects, or trying.
I really like your idea aswell acctually :)

Agamemnwn
03-07-2006, 07:12 PM
i think if we all poke really hard he will probably finish on time :D . The big bad world is going to be really nice :D

urgaffel
03-07-2006, 08:10 PM
First, how good are you at modeling characters? Can you tell the story with just objects / shadows / or can you pull off something this emotive with convincing people? You don't have to show a whole person to tell a narrative...even the hands would suffice.

The best thing to do would do be do a bunch of small comps ~ like 4" max width at 72 dpi. Just throw around some ideas, or draw them traditionally in pencil if it's easier.

Thoughts are images, so try comping them out. :)

Depends on how personal you want this story to be, too, and how transparent. All personal history is fodder for art, as far as I'm concerned ~ I say, go for it.

I'm good enough ;) Besides, doesn't have to be photoreal characters, it can be stylized which is what I will most likely go for. Photoreal is nice but I've been doing that at work so I need something different :) I will use shadows and stuff to tell the story too so it will hopefully all come together. I will be doing some sort of sketching asap, I need to plan this well. And I hope I will be able to show them here later.

What's wrong with pastel colours :D? (Says the girl with a blood red, rotting and currently nude picture. Ahem).

I think it sounds like a great idea, I like the idea of the two little kids lost in the big bad world ^^ got the opportunity to add a lot of interesting and subtle things there. Which means that we will probably see this finished by...oh...2010? :p

Looking forward to seeing this a bit more developed ^^ :love:

Nothing wrong with pastels, just a bit boring that's all ;) Glad you like the idea, I have a good feeling about it. And I'll probably finish sometime around 2090... I mean 2009... No wait... :p

I love the Idea of adding some subtle effects, or trying.
I really like your idea aswell acctually :)

I'm glad you like it ^^ Subtle effects are nice but hard to pull off so I hope I can do it in a nice way.

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Peter: I'm good enough ;) Besides, doesn't have to be photoreal characters, it can be stylized which is what I will most likely go for. Photoreal is nice but I've been doing that at work so I need something different :) I will use shadows and stuff to tell the story too so it will hopefully all come together. I will be doing some sort of sketching asap, I need to plan this well. And I hope I will be able to show them here later.
Cool. :) Looking forward to 'dem sketches. It would be interesting to see something dark and sort of Hitchcockian...

Some possible inspiration:
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4 (http://www.mkmillay3d.com/user/Mystery%20Girl.jpg)
5 (http://www.boolsite.net/images/previews/Design_Art/BlattesBackgrounds/_prev/allegory-10.jpg)
6 (http://www.wolfandwater.org/images/large%20-%20allegory%20dance.gif)

urgaffel
03-08-2006, 09:44 AM
Thanks Kimchee but the first two links doesn't work :sad: First one is 403, second one only gives me a Tripod hosting image.

Hitchcockian eh... Good thinking my dear :) I brought my sketchbook to work so I can sketch while rendering... Hopefully it won't be in vain heh

Womball
03-08-2006, 09:47 AM
I really like how this is not a typical shaped frame. Rather vertical!

Rebeccak
03-08-2006, 01:06 PM
Thanks Kimchee but the first two links doesn't work :sad: First one is 403, second one only gives me a Tripod hosting image.
Tricky internet bastards. ;) I removed the links. :) The first one was of a night sky with a tree silhouetted, the other I kind of forget...:D

Hitchcockian eh... Good thinking my dear :) I brought my sketchbook to work so I can sketch while rendering... Hopefully it won't be in vain heh
No problem. :)

Ego
03-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Goodluck honey. I'll be sure to follow up. Nice sketches so far :) So expect many pokeages from us.

burpy
03-09-2006, 03:11 PM
I really like the latest concept!

Just a thought, maybe exaggerate the city and buildings height even more to look more imposing. Or even put a slight wide angle lens effect on the image so the buildings actually look like they are closing in on the little girl.

Great concept, should make a great final image!:thumbsup:

urgaffel
03-12-2006, 06:32 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1142188339_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1142188339_large.jpg)

A bunch of tests for the scene I had in mind. Please ignore horrible colours and biped skeletons :p

There's another test that I didn't have time to do and that is basically a view from the side with the house on one end, a big evil forest starting somewhere around the middle/35% mark and then mountains of doom on the other edge or just some sort of portal to the netherworld or maybe even have the portal at 85% and have a bit of the netherworld with parents chained to something of unspeakable horror... Or something along those lines.

And now I want to do lost in the city too... Dang it! :)

Art2
03-12-2006, 07:25 PM
Peter, I like the first one a lot.
Maybe delete the far left pilar (behind the kid) to balance the comp more.

Looking forward for more :)

urgaffel
03-13-2006, 01:02 AM
Marlon, number 5 has the same composition as 1 except for the pillar (I think... they look similar :D)

erilaz
03-13-2006, 01:02 AM
Number 1 and 5 work really well, as does the last, but the last one seems a little too forced.

Biped is a useful little monkey, isn't it? :)

urgaffel
03-13-2006, 01:12 AM
Hmm... 1 and 5 you say (too)... I probably need a bit more space above the character on the left... But yeah, it could work :)

oceanbluesky
03-13-2006, 05:49 AM
Good luck, like the floating island sketch.

Art2
03-13-2006, 10:11 AM
Marlon, number 5 has the same composition as 1 except for the pillar (I think... they look similar :D)

They do at first sight, but I like the flow of the mountains in 1 better :)

sergioKomic
03-13-2006, 01:08 PM
1 and 5 for the challenge, I love 8 but it wouldnt work!

LadyMedusa
03-13-2006, 01:39 PM
They do at first sight, but I like the flow of the mountains in 1 better :)
Agreed
and yeah, you should also put more air around the character as you mentioned :)

flyingP
03-20-2006, 10:35 AM
updates ? ....just curious :)

urgaffel
03-20-2006, 03:50 PM
I'm sorry! I had a ton of work at work and then I got sick (and I'm still a bit sick) so I wasn't able to do anything... And to be honest, I don't really know what to do :sad:

sergioKomic
03-20-2006, 05:05 PM
Nooooooo you hear me... no , Thats the wrong attitude MISTER....

CMON BONANZITES.... Flex some creative muscle!:scream:

flyingP
03-20-2006, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE=urgaffelAnd to be honest, I don't really know what to do :sad:[/QUOTE]

drink lots and lots of coffee :wise:

sergioKomic
03-20-2006, 06:37 PM
[QUOTE=urgaffelAnd to be honest, I don't really know what to do :sad:

drink lots and lots of coffee :wise:[/QUOTE]

Μmmm Coffee!

Theres an Idea....:beer:

paperclip
03-20-2006, 06:40 PM
Do no. 1. With lots and lots of stripes on the mountains. :)

urgaffel
04-12-2006, 06:21 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1144862495_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1144862495_large.jpg)

Wow, finally an update. Did this little 3d sketch in about 45 minutes or so... Gives you a feeling of what I want to do I hope :D

I'll try to do more frequent updates from now, now that I've settled on the city idea. Yay for decisiveness!

LadyMedusa
04-12-2006, 06:40 PM
Fanceh. About time you updated :)

urgaffel
04-13-2006, 11:58 AM
I know I know... I blame it on not knowing what to do and general laziness ;) I haven't been using max at all at home. Strangely enough, it coincides with when Ailsa arrived :D

urgaffel
04-18-2006, 05:53 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1145379186_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9723/9723_1145379186_large.jpg)

A more detailed concept this time with a really crappy photoshoped flare :D At least I'm getting somewhere with this. My thought is to have the foreground grimey and gritty and a general mess with things being a bit better the further away from the main characters you get. Hopefully it will work out...

Art2
04-18-2006, 06:04 PM
Strangely enough, it coincides with when Ailsa arrived :D

That's no excuse! :wip::wip::wip:

urgaffel
04-18-2006, 06:15 PM
But it's all I've got! At least I'm doing something now ;)

varma
04-18-2006, 06:25 PM
Cool camera angle! Makes the background very important and almost hard to reach!
This can become a nice render!
Keep it up!
:)

LadyMedusa
04-18-2006, 06:29 PM
Nice nice~
Those cables are really a nice tutch :)
Those jiggly lines on the road are a little annoying, but I assume you will work on it.
I also like the shadowing... erm, the posision of the light better in this one :)

bleumoon
04-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Nice Peter, I really like how your piece is falling into place. The composition, the camera angle, and the concept are all comming together nicely. I don't have any crits for you other than where the heck did the lens flare come from? Aww Peter . . . lets not have any of that now eh? :scream:;):p

DimitrisLiatsos
04-18-2006, 11:45 PM
Someone mentioned coffee in here.... :bounce:.

urgaffel
04-19-2006, 11:07 AM
Cool camera angle! Makes the background very important and almost hard to reach!
This can become a nice render!
Keep it up!
:)

Thanks! I really hope it will turn out nicely :D The image in my head has a lot of potential and now I just have to get it out somehow...

Nice nice~
Those cables are really a nice toutch :)
Those jiggly lines on the road are a little annoying, but I assume you will work on it.
I also like the shadowing... erm, the posision of the light better in this one :)

Glad to hear I'm going in the right direction! The jiggly lines are just an ugly test, they will be gone in the next render ^^

Nice Peter, I really like how your piece is falling into place. The composition, the camera angle, and the concept are all comming together nicely. I don't have any crits for you other than where the heck did the lens flare come from? Aww Peter . . . lets not have any of that now eh? :scream:;):p

I did that lensflare by hand in photoshop... with a mouse! And I couldn't help myself heh... It will be gone in the next render, I promise! Glad to hear the rest is going the right way though ;)
Someone mentioned coffee in here.... :bounce:.

Sorry no coffee, only Kopiko!

sergioKomic
04-19-2006, 11:57 AM
kick.....






Go on now.... work some more on it!

urgaffel
04-19-2006, 06:14 PM
I will I will! I just have to finish the work I have to do at the office first and then go home and fight the urge to play Oblivion :cry:

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