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slickgreekgeo
02-28-2006, 09:51 AM
George Patsouras is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=9687)

Latest Update: Final Image: Phenomenon
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147644224_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3545140#post3545140)

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 02:08 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141178901_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141178901_large.jpg)

This is extremely early, just wanted to get the idea down. Will work on another more refined sketch soon. This sketch shows the Greek God Poseidon attacking a group of people on the boat.

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 11:10 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141211409_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141211409_large.jpg)

I didn't like my first concept, so I tried something new. This is an extremely rough sketch, depicting a mythical battle.

DeeVad
03-01-2006, 11:45 AM
Good luck George, I was always impressed by your great skill in drawing/painting ( in 2D gallery forum ), I' m sure you will find soon the great stone of start. This challenge will be a great great journey .
Good Luck & all the best.

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the support, appreciate it. This is the first time I'm entering a challenge, so this should be fun. Good luck to you as well.

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 01:01 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141218099_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141218099_large.jpg)

Still playing around with concepts, not too sure about this one... I'm probably going to be ending up doing something completely different...

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 01:32 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141219936_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141219936_large.jpg)

I'm definitely going to go forward with this concept. This scene will depict a group of people who have to climb a mountain that resembles a threatening creature. This sketch is again, very rough. Just want to get some ideas down.

MichaelZHsee
03-01-2006, 01:47 PM
hey there~u joined too~just wanna wish u the very best of luck here~some cool sketches u'v got already!

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 02:23 PM
Thanks, but I think I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I really need to have a more clear vision of what I want to illustrate before I continue any further. Glad you like the concepts though.

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 03:35 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141227303_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141227303_large.jpg)

Quick sketch on the characters. Still not sure what to do about the background at this point, but I'll probably incorporate previous concepts.

slickgreekgeo
03-01-2006, 05:07 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141232866_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141232866_large.jpg)

Quick background concept. The rocks resemble a demonic figure, almost 'threatening' the central characters.

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 02:56 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141268214_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141268214_large.jpg)

Close up sketch of the characters that will be featured in this piece. Hope you enjoy, feedback is appreciated.

wildcory1
03-02-2006, 03:14 AM
Nice to see a fellow Oregonian in the contest. Good luck

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 03:21 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141312875_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141312875_large.jpg)

Very early coloring. I'm going to start off and complete the characters first, as I don't have a strong enough concept for the background at this point.

umbrellasky
03-02-2006, 04:25 PM
wow! So much already! Great work so far :thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 04:27 PM
Thank ya! Generally it takes me forever to paint a background, so I'd rather do the characters first (and even those take a while). So I'd rather do as much as work possible as early as I possibly can. Thanks for the feedback.

sergioKomic
03-02-2006, 04:35 PM
Good luck George!

unwrap
03-02-2006, 04:50 PM
Neat stuff, I like your sub-zero painting!

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Thanks, appreciate it.

JTD
03-02-2006, 05:47 PM
Great depth in your painting. You are a master of light and shadow!

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 05:51 PM
Thanks, I'm trying to add a lot of depth to this image, so I really want to bring out the dark and light values in this one. Thanks for the comments.

nebezial
03-02-2006, 05:56 PM
looks awesome man, keep it up!

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 06:45 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141325139_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141325139_large.jpg)

A very quick, rough concept sketch of the background. This shows a statue of a god or godess coming to life.

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 06:49 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141325348_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141325348_large.jpg)

Coloring progress, still needs a hell of a lot more work...

R-K
03-02-2006, 09:27 PM
of course I don't know a crap about things, but your approach might not be the most productive. You're tackling characters first without proper idea of background.. now that might seriously hurt your overall image when in the end colors don't match and lighting's off etc. and it has that "built from pieces" look to it.

Avoid poser like the plague by the way, not sure if you use it but one of your characters seems to say "poser" to me.:arteest: Well of course my characters suck alltogether so maybe I should quit talking..

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 09:50 PM
You have a good point, which is why I now took a break from the characters and came up with the background concept. That's the problem with doing the characters first though, I have to make them match the lightning of the background eventually, and that's gonna be a difficult task if I spend too much rendering them without taking the background into consideration.

Thanks for the feedback. Just curious, what do you mean by avoiding poser?

urgaffel
03-02-2006, 10:26 PM
I asume he means Poser, the program that lets you create humans in various poses and states of undress, light, texture, groom and then render them to images you can use for reference.

Just curious, are you using reference for this piece? Took a look at your site and some of your works seem to make heavy use of reference, your Sub Zero image for example so...

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 10:50 PM
I agree, and I think that's one of my faults as an artist recently; Getting caught up in doing various portraits of friends and so forth, I found myself relying a lot on references. I'm definitely getting away from that (check out the Gildan piece, as well as Freehold) and trying not to focus on making everything as 'realistic' as possible.

I am using various references for this piece, specifically on the clothing. I definitely want to have a very mythological look to this piece, so I've been looking on different artworks based on that. I won't be reyling so much to references as I did on the Sub-Zero piece, as I want to be as original as possible for this one.

I asume he means Poser, the program that lets you create humans in various poses and states of undress, light, texture, groom and then render them to images you can use for reference.

Just curious, are you using reference for this piece? Took a look at your site and some of your works seem to make heavy use of reference, your Sub Zero image for example so...

R-K
03-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Poser's anatomy is not so good as it could be, so if you count on it, you go wrong :D

slickgreekgeo
03-02-2006, 11:04 PM
Poser's anatomy is not so good as it could be, so if you count on it, you go wrong :D

I don't have Poser. Ironically, I just looked into it and I was considering using it in the future to help me for the anatomy. Looks like I can forget about that....

beelow
03-03-2006, 01:11 AM
I don't have poser but, I have seen it suggested, here and there. To me whatever works the best use it!:thumbsup: Looking good though, but yeah try to figure out ur compo b4 details, Ranath has gave u great advice, so u wont run into problems later on, in ur work!:thumbsup:

cLos71
03-03-2006, 02:01 AM
Astoria in the House! Looking good, keep it up. :thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 02:12 AM
Heeeeell yeah!

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 02:17 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141352220_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141352220_large.jpg)

I changed the way the soldier's looking to work better with the composition. I'll probably start on the background, as I don't want to go 2 far in detail with the characters this early on.

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 03:43 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141357417_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141357417_large.jpg)

Concept for a Hera Statue brought back to life. I'm not sure if I'll go with this version yet, probably going to try more concepts out tomorrow.

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 04:12 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141359163_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141359163_large.jpg)

I'm pretty pleased with how the elements work together. I'm thinking about 'shrinking' the central characters, not sure. I'm gonna add a whole bunch of details for the background, more buildings, for example, but the basic idea is pretty much there I'd say.

Feedback will be greatly appreciated.

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 06:54 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141368839_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141368839_large.jpg)

I promised myself I would go easy on the characters, and I decided to break it 2 seconds after. I repainted the girl's face (the one at the left) because I wasn't satisfied with it. I'm also working on the skin tones, Linda's skin tutorial is VERY helpful to say the least.

Squibbit
03-03-2006, 06:57 AM
wow dude pretty cool stuff there so far :thumbsup:



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slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 07:03 AM
thanks dawg

PSych
03-03-2006, 07:06 AM
Hey there, I am looking forward to seeing more of your great work!
Good luck and have fun :thumbsup:

MichaelZHsee
03-03-2006, 07:58 AM
nice progress here,the guy squating looks cool:thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-03-2006, 08:37 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141375037_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141375037_large.jpg)

It's amazing how a few changes in size and angle can effect an image. That's it for now, off to catch some zzz's. Hope to get some feedback.

OniricCreative
03-03-2006, 10:09 AM
Yeess.. very greek feeling in this!!! Love it. Subscribing! :thumbsup: r u a fellow greek George?
Is going to the right direction. Be a bit careful with the woman on the far left. I think her neck is a bit too tall and the hand infront a bit too thin. I know your still working on it so I'm just mentioning to keep an eye on her proportions. Plus, I'd like to see the composition turning out to have some depth in it. Maybe something in the background and foreground. At the moment is just one middleground. Just a few suggestions but I like how is going. Keep it up man. :thumbsup:

Nord
03-03-2006, 10:24 AM
Great! Coloring looks really good so far, and i love the composition of the characters. Looking forward to see more.

KrotArt
03-03-2006, 10:35 AM
Good idea
It is pleasant to me
Especially I like colours in a picture

slickgreekgeo
03-05-2006, 12:54 AM
Thanks, I'm taking a little break from working on this, I'll probably start again 2morow, work even more on the colors and painting. Also gotta put the background together, I'm researching some Greek architecture. Thanks for the comments.

slickgreekgeo
03-05-2006, 02:28 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141525724_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141525724_large.jpg)

I'd like to get some feedback on the composition before I detail the hell out of this :)

I pretty much know what to do with the background from this point, so I'm going to begin working on the 'Hera' statue.

Slav
03-05-2006, 10:22 AM
great work so far keep it up!

Cyberone
03-05-2006, 11:00 AM
ive been watching for a while....its really comming together now...

cant wait to see what you end up with :)

:)

OniricCreative
03-05-2006, 11:57 AM
composition looks good mate. I'll still like to see something in the foreground but maybe is just me ;)

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 12:28 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141604898_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141604898_large.jpg)

I spent a lot of time on the statue, making her appear more threatening, as well as changing the statue color to a golden hue. One of the hardest and most time consuming parts of this image will be to make the transition from statue to a person, in order to convey a sense of the statue 'coming to life'.

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 01:30 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141608626_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141608626_large.jpg)

Worked on the clouds, I think it's much more dynamic now and darker, which is what I'm going for with this image.

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 03:37 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141616263_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141616263_large.jpg)

I decided that a lighter background works much better with the composition, so I went with that. I'm not starting to add background elements, I really want to add a lot of architecture in the background, houses, greek columns, trees, etc.

artvandeley
03-06-2006, 04:58 AM
This is getting better and better.
I agree with lighten up the background. Gives the statue a better shape.
Way to go!

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 05:19 AM
This is getting better and better.
I agree with lighten up the background. Gives the statue a better shape.
Way to go!

Glad you agree, thanks for taking the time to comment.

bandro
03-06-2006, 05:22 AM
cool idea with the statue :thumbsup: his head its a little bit big maybe

good luck

MichaelZHsee
03-06-2006, 05:38 AM
looks really good there:)~i thought the hera statue would be in stone/rock material?would it be alil odd for her to be in skin color?

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 06:14 AM
I think I'll for that 'golden statue' look. Her face and right arm will be 'freed' from the statue, it should be a bit challenging to convey, but I'm all up for it :)

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 06:16 AM
cool idea with the statue :thumbsup: his head its a little bit big maybe

good luck

I think you're right, I'll probably shrink her head a bit after I'm done detailing it. Good eye!

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 07:19 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141629570_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141629570_large.jpg)

Working more on the 'statue'. I dropped the golden look of it, I think this looks more natural; I'm also experimenting with various brushes to make the transation better.

KrotArt
03-06-2006, 08:34 AM
Beautiful colours
Good picture

But possible colour of the sky make more black?

OniricCreative
03-06-2006, 09:03 AM
wow, lots of updates!! Looking good mate. Very good work. I agree with the change on the background, looks better but it can still be a bit lighter around the characters and statue. and Hera looks good. I prefer the natural colors. Maybe you could have the statue parts more grey and white so the difference will look better, cause now you cant really see the transition. Anyway, good work m8. Keep up.

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 03:28 PM
I'm still experimenting with the statue until I get a look I'm satisfied with. I won't work on other elements of this picture until I get the statue right, as it's definitely the focal point of the image.

Duracel
03-06-2006, 03:53 PM
Just do the fliptest! The Picture is tilt to the left.

To the "light/dark" background-Problem. Important is to give a good shape. So the value of the statue have to differ from the background! The gold looks fine in front of dark but it doenst in front of light. If you're unsure about it, try to solve this problem in some greyscale-thumbnails. And dont hang on the face; its just too detailed yet, while still not sure about the primary masses of the picture!

Miyagu
03-06-2006, 05:54 PM
good going george, love the concept :) *will be back later*

slickgreekgeo
03-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Just do the fliptest! The Picture is tilt to the left.

To the "light/dark" background-Problem. Important is to give a good shape. So the value of the statue have to differ from the background! The gold looks fine in front of dark but it doenst in front of light. If you're unsure about it, try to solve this problem in some greyscale-thumbnails. And dont hang on the face; its just too detailed yet, while still not sure about the primary masses of the picture!

I'm still experimenting with various color schemes for the statue. You're right about me working too much on the face, but that's definitely going to be the focal point, so I want it to be as detailed as possible. Right now I'm taking a 'break' from the statue, and concentrating a bit more on the characters at the left. Thanks for the feedback, some good suggestions you have there.

Ramitxon
03-07-2006, 12:58 AM
Hi George, you have a strong theme and composition. You'll find the right colours. The statue seems to explode from the original material into life. Great work. Please continue keeping us updated.

Nikolay
03-07-2006, 05:47 PM
The good beginning! Good luck to your journey!

MVDB
03-07-2006, 05:53 PM
It's great to watch your progress.
Like your style very much, beautifully painted already! :thumbsup:

umbrellasky
03-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Oooo great work! This is really coming along now :thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-07-2006, 10:01 PM
Thanks for the comments. I'm taking a bit of a break on this for personal reasons, I'll probably go back to it in a couple of days. I want to have a better understanding of what exactly I want to put in the background as well.

nebezial
03-07-2006, 10:26 PM
the colors look well balanced so far. i would suggest some dramatic light ovetr the godesses shoulders kinda creating shadow on the ground but hits the characters kinda to accentuate the link between the characters and also add more drama

slickgreekgeo
03-08-2006, 12:30 AM
I've been thinking about doing that, and I probably will. Great suggestion, I will definitely implement the shadows/lightning in the future.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 01:42 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141868522_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141868522_large.jpg)

Spent more time on the characters, a bit on the background. Here's a progress shot at 25% view.

Gord-MacDonald
03-09-2006, 02:07 AM
nice work really solid progress - (I personally like the gold color in the statue)Gord

otre
03-09-2006, 03:16 AM
cool fantasy drawing. Reminds me of a Larry Elmore painting. :)

Don't really know what crit to give. I see you've placed the camera quite far back, and I think it works for this illustration, but another way could be maybe to place the camera close to the guy kneeling, and looking up at the statue. Would give a more "wide angle" perspective, and maybe give more depth to the scene? But like I said, it works quite well as it is now.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 03:24 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141874654_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141874654_large.jpg)

experimenting with values to add more depth. I think I'm gonna lay off the characters for a while, going to concentrate more on the background, specifically the mountains.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 03:26 AM
cool fantasy drawing. Reminds me of a Larry Elmore painting. :)

Don't really know what crit to give. I see you've placed the camera quite far back, and I think it works for this illustration, but another way could be maybe to place the camera close to the guy kneeling, and looking up at the statue. Would give a more "wide angle" perspective, and maybe give more depth to the scene? But like I said, it works quite well as it is now.

That's a good idea, I'll try experimenting with that after I work a bit more on the mountains. Thanks for the comments.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 06:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141887549_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141887549_large.jpg)

I made several changes this time; I revererted the 'golden' look for the statue, I think it's more dynamic and helps the statue pop out more. I also began working on both the foreground and the background, specifically creating a mountain terain. This is fairly challenging, as this is the first time I'm painting these things in a grand scale.

Comments are welcome.

OniricCreative
03-09-2006, 07:37 AM
yeah, the gold now makes it more colorful and i think is nicer! But maybe you could play around with some lightings also for more dramatic effects.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 08:38 AM
I'll probably experiment with that in the future, but if I have a feeling it might look a bit cheesy/cliche, so we'll see how that goes. Thanks for the suggestion.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 10:55 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141901755_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141901755_large.jpg)

I worked on the image more, the biggest change is the color pallete; I completely changed it, matching the more darker atmosphere I initially wanted. I think this works better in terms of composition and lightning.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 03:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141917135_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141917135_large.jpg)

I added rain effects, I think this gives the image a lot more life, and also goes well with the dark atmosphere I'm trying to portray.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 03:55 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141919752_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141919752_large.jpg)

Here's a close up of Hera's face. Added the rain splashing off her face.

OniricCreative
03-09-2006, 04:08 PM
Very nice details George!! I like the mood of the latest one.

ThePhotographer
03-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Good luck, George !

As some others, I also find that your figures look a little bit "Poserish", but I'm sure that must be a mistake of mine ....

Anyway, you may want to relook the knees of the woman to the left of the middle. They look a bit akward right now.

slickgreekgeo
03-09-2006, 10:43 PM
I agree about the knees, they've been bothering me a bit, I'll definitely change it. As for my figures looking "Poserish", is that a good or bad thing?

Ramitxon
03-09-2006, 11:47 PM
Wow, the face of the statue really disturbes me. I like the effect of the rain. Keep it up mate.

slickgreekgeo
03-10-2006, 03:05 AM
Wow, the face of the statue really disturbes me. I like the effect of the rain. Keep it up mate.

Thanks, I'm gonna go crazy with all those details. Glad the face disturbs you, lol. I really wanted her to have some twisted expression on her, so hopefully I pulled it off.

ceresz
03-10-2006, 06:03 AM
Looking awesome, I can't wait for more... :D

DeeVad
03-10-2006, 08:24 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141608626_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1141608626_large.jpg)

Worked on the clouds, I think it's much more dynamic now and darker, which is what I'm going for with this image.

Hello ! I finally decide to read all and now I can participe more to the evolution of your work. A great work in progress, I really like the last one close up, and Era face is beautifull/powerfull. A great vision of them. I quote this drawing cause it was the best way for me to "underline" the colors you made witch I liked the most. The violet dark background make live more the gold of the statue and attract the eyes on this element, I also like the particules on this drawing, a bit big and blur. The last particules effect on your drawing look a bit as if it was a cloud of insect, that's why I prefer this one cause it look most as "golden sheet" who fall from the statue.

Your work is totally beautifull and this illustration should find easly a book cause it give the wanting to follow adventure of the group. So , great one, I will follow now "I'm in the train" , and with pleasure.

slickgreekgeo
03-10-2006, 09:44 PM
Thanks for the comments. I'm most definitely going to apply the golden palette for the statue, as everyone seems to prefer that one the most, including me. Glad you like.

cLos71
03-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Man you're just going at it! Very cool, keep it up man! Looking good :thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 03:57 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142222233_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142222233_large.jpg)

I'm starting to work on the statue again, this time going back to the golden look and refining the 'clothes'.

DeeVad
03-13-2006, 05:08 AM
The clothes design of Era is sympatical, I like the place for the naked leg. I wait to see the gold effect finish on it. It will be cool !:thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 05:26 AM
Thanks, I want to see the golden effect finished too, lol. I'm gonna take somet ime on the statue, as this could probably make or the break the piece for many, including me. Thanks for the feedback.

AkaKico
03-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Wow George, Leaps and bounds!

Could we see some of the ref's your using? They must be killer.

Chris

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 07:01 PM
Wow George, Leaps and bounds!

Could we see some of the ref's your using? They must be killer.

Chris

Yessir. Below is the reference I'm using for the statue:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/slickgreekgeo/st.jpg

Ravena
03-13-2006, 07:03 PM
Hi slickgreekgeo,

the statue comes great. Keep up the good work.
And much luck.

Ciao,
Ravena

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 07:06 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142276762_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142276762_large.jpg)

Worked mostly on the statue, refined some of the colors, and continued to work on the foreground.

umbrellasky
03-13-2006, 08:07 PM
Looking good! I really like the perspective, and the awe on the character's expressions and poses.

Progressing well! :thumbsup:

Agamemnwn
03-13-2006, 08:52 PM
hi giwrgo, nice reference for the statue's cloths althought is a statue of Athina and not Hera that u are doing on your piece, any references for the face of the statue?
nice coloring for the clothes and the sky. btw i dont think they had orthodox churches in ancient greece. just a thought... have fun :D

Yone
03-13-2006, 09:19 PM
Hey George,

You have some very nice variants in your composition and its nice to see someone who reworks everything until it is right. I really admire your percevirance.

The composition of your final piece is just great and the character design especially the godess is exquisite. Its very difficult to try to find improvements. I could just coment on getting the effect of the staue comint to life just right. Maybe some dust clouds and pieces of gold flaking off the goddess as if the statue were sheding its skin.

This of coourse would probably be done in final stages of the drawing. I think you need a base or something to the statue as it looks right now too much like a giant character. I also think you need to add some depth to the backgrounp it all seems a bit too near.

Keep it up I know this will look great when its finished.

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 09:35 PM
Thanks for those comments, always good to hear positive feedback. I agree about the base of the statue, I'll definitely implement it. The backdrop is just a temp placeholder, it'll be dramatically reworked. Right now I'm just trying to concentrate mostly on more important elements, specifically the statue.

Thanks everyone for the comments/feedback.

ThePhotographer
03-13-2006, 10:48 PM
You have to do something about the bridge in the background - it looks too stiff right now. A little more texture and a little more irregularity would look better. Also think about the perspective of it - I'm not an expert, but I'm sure you can do better and it is quite important to the image.

slickgreekgeo
03-13-2006, 10:53 PM
You have to do something about the bridge in the background - it looks too stiff right now. A little more texture and a little more irregularity would look better. Also think about the perspective of it - I'm not an expert, but I'm sure you can do better and it is quite important to the image.

I definitely agree on the bridge; What I'm going to do is literally break it up, add some falling rocks, a ton of cracks, etc. The perspective of the backdrop is wrong as is. All I have to do is rotate it a bit, but I won't do that as of yet, simply because I'm going to rework the whole backdrop; It's just a placeholder. You have a good eye for these things, so thanks for the feedback.

slickgreekgeo
03-15-2006, 02:19 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142432382_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142432382_large.jpg)

I continued to work on the statue, refining the colors throughout the image as well.

MichaelCTY
03-16-2006, 01:51 AM
Hey man,You are fast, those figures looks great,I love those womans alot, the composition is great as well,but I would like to see more colours haha, thats only my personal request,anyway keep it up and good luck

slickgreekgeo
03-16-2006, 02:07 AM
Thanks, I have a seperate 'color' layer that I'm always playing around with, but I really want to get everything down before I concentrate more on colors, mood, etc. Glad you like, thanks for the comments.

MichaelZHsee
03-16-2006, 02:54 AM
would the statue shadows be casted onto the rock?ur going pretty solid with ur progress here:)keep it coming mate

slickgreekgeo
03-16-2006, 03:09 AM
I'm still playing with the light sources, I'm probably gonna have it in a way that the statue does in fact cast shadow on the rock, it'll def look more dynamic that way. Thanks for the feedback.

slickgreekgeo
03-17-2006, 07:13 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142579593_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142579593_large.jpg)

I re-did the background in this update, hopefully for the better. Feedback welcome.

OniricCreative
03-17-2006, 09:33 AM
I like how the mood is starting to look. Especially now that the background changed makes the rain more obvious. Very nice. Like the ground and the statue looks good as well. Keep up.

slickgreekgeo
03-17-2006, 11:03 AM
Glad you like.

Cyberone
03-17-2006, 01:16 PM
the texturing and colouring are comming along very well...

i just noticed...is her head a little big?? and is her leg on the right side a little thin?? mmm dunno...

i like the new backgrond...alot more intimate..

slickgreekgeo
03-17-2006, 01:45 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142603135_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142603135_large.jpg)

Detailing the background, refined the statue further.

slickgreekgeo
03-17-2006, 01:46 PM
the texturing and colouring are comming along very well...

i just noticed...is her head a little big?? and is her leg on the right side a little thin?? mmm dunno...

i like the new backgrond...alot more intimate..

I think you're right, I'll probably shrink it a bit by the final. As for her leg being a little thin, her 'skirt' is covering it a bit, I'll put more shadows in there to make that more evident. Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.

kidster
03-17-2006, 07:53 PM
WOW ! i love it ! keep it this way !

Good luck ! I'll keep an eye on ya !:scream:

slickgreekgeo
03-17-2006, 08:25 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142627125_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1142627125_large.jpg)

I worked more on the characters, in additon to making the clouds a bit more dynamic.

TheFirstAngel
03-18-2006, 03:24 PM
beautifull work mate, you got me here on a weak point since i am a sucka for greek mythology since my childhood days :)
subscribin and keepin an eye on this, have fun and a great journey mate keep up the great work :)

TheFirstAngel
03-24-2006, 07:26 AM
lol came to spam a bit: update ! :bounce: update :bounce: ! update :bounce:!

slickgreekgeo
03-24-2006, 07:37 AM
lmao. i'm working on it i tell ya!

slickgreekgeo
05-01-2006, 10:20 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1146475247_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1146475247_large.jpg)

Been busy as hell lately, back to painting again. I took out some background elements in to stress the height of the statue.

slickgreekgeo
05-09-2006, 07:57 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147157845_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147157845_large.jpg)

I added a flare, which will hopefully contrast the background better. Repainted the background, refined statue. Feedback appreciated.

slickgreekgeo
05-09-2006, 12:13 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147173183_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147173183_large.jpg)

Added foilage, refined flare and more details.

walrus
05-09-2006, 02:37 PM
This is coming along, good to see you still working on it. That sky is really beautiful, nice work painting all of those clouds!

One comment on anatomy: Dos it look to you like ther left breast is furhter away from her clavicle than her right one? Anyhow, just something I was thinking about when I looked at it.

Keep going, and good luck!

-mike

MDN67
05-09-2006, 04:42 PM
It is a very beautiful images, I saw your portfolio and the quality of painting on the characters is very maid, I thus wait for your next update to appreciate this painting on this image

slickgreekgeo
05-09-2006, 09:13 PM
This is coming along, good to see you still working on it. That sky is really beautiful, nice work painting all of those clouds!

One comment on anatomy: Dos it look to you like ther left breast is furhter away from her clavicle than her right one? Anyhow, just something I was thinking about when I looked at it.

Keep going, and good luck!

-mike

Thanks, there are some minor anatomy issues throughout, I'll definitely tweak them, thanks for pointing them out. I saw your entry and website btw, impressive as hell, you have a great style.

slickgreekgeo
05-09-2006, 09:14 PM
It is a very beautiful images, I saw your portfolio and the quality of painting on the characters is very maid, I thus wait for your next update to appreciate this painting on this image

Thanks, I always enjoy going crazy with character details, I feel the extra effort really brings them to life.

warpy
05-09-2006, 09:20 PM
great idea, but the hair on the statue looks bad. keep it up

slickgreekgeo
05-09-2006, 09:21 PM
great idea, but the hair on the statue looks bad. keep it up

Agreed, I'll definitely work on that more, thanks for the feedback.

slickgreekgeo
05-11-2006, 05:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147323557_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147323557_large.jpg)

Major changes to the background, some refinements to the characters, mainly 'Hera'.

slickgreekgeo
05-12-2006, 03:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147402765_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147402765_large.jpg)

More character detailing... Feedback appreciated!

ramy badie
05-12-2006, 04:13 AM
This is really progressing well, I haven't really had a chance to comment here yet. Awesome work on the texturing, my biggest concern with the picture is the torch/flame. I feel like it takes WAY too much attention in the picture, I feel like it should be really toned down, or actually I think if it was no longer lit and just smoke was coming from it, then it would reinforce the helplessness of the characters. That's just my suggestion, good work overall :D

slickgreekgeo
05-12-2006, 05:39 AM
This is really progressing well, I haven't really had a chance to comment here yet. Awesome work on the texturing, my biggest concern with the picture is the torch/flame. I feel like it takes WAY too much attention in the picture, I feel like it should be really toned down, or actually I think if it was no longer lit and just smoke was coming from it, then it would reinforce the helplessness of the characters. That's just my suggestion, good work overall :D

You're right about the torch issue. The torch/flame was meant to 'seperate' the foreground characters from Hera, but I agree that it is too much (it takes too much attention away from the statue, which is bad). I'll fix it soon, thanks for the feedback.

MrFreeman
05-12-2006, 10:01 PM
:) This is looking really good slickgreekgeo....

The developments are making such a difference - the only thing I would say is that the vegetation in the foreground is very similar in color and tone to that further back, so it might help add depth if more contrast was added (foreground vegetation slightly darker).

Anyway, keep up the great work and update soon!! :)

slickgreekgeo
05-12-2006, 10:09 PM
:) This is looking really good slickgreekgeo....

The developments are making such a difference - the only thing I would say is that the vegetation in the foreground is very similar in color and tone to that further back, so it might help add depth if more contrast was added (foreground vegetation slightly darker).

Anyway, keep up the great work and update soon!! :)

You're definitely right about that, I'll fix it as soon as possible. I'm working on updates I tell ya!

anticz
05-14-2006, 12:15 AM
Looking good so far but there's a couple things about this that aren't quite working yet. First, the separation between foreground and background. The value and saturation of everything is pretty even. You need to clearly separate foreground, middle ground and background and focus the audiences attention where you want it. I did a super quick mock up of what I'm talking about.

http://anticz.com/farsh/SlickGreekGeo.jpg

Also, your perspective is a bit ambigous. Are we viewing this from slightly above (the foreground terrian) from below (the background wall) or side on eyelevel (the characters). If you can resolve these core problems I think you'll have a very nice painting. Good job so far and good luck! :)

slickgreekgeo
05-14-2006, 01:36 AM
That's an awesome mock-up, and I'm definitely going to implement something similar. You're right about the perspective issues as well, and I'll admit perspective is one of my weakest aspects, but i'll definitely try to make the said improvements. Thanks for the feedback.


Looking good so far but there's a couple things about this that aren't quite working yet. First, the separation between foreground and background. The value and saturation of everything is pretty even. You need to clearly separate foreground, middle ground and background and focus the audiences attention where you want it. I did a super quick mock up of what I'm talking about.

http://anticz.com/farsh/SlickGreekGeo.jpg

Also, your perspective is a bit ambigous. Are we viewing this from slightly above (the foreground terrian) from below (the background wall) or side on eyelevel (the characters). If you can resolve these core problems I think you'll have a very nice painting. Good job so far and good luck! :)

slickgreekgeo
05-14-2006, 10:08 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147640912_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147640912_large.jpg)

Pretty much finished!

slickgreekgeo
05-14-2006, 11:03 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147644224_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/12/9687/9687_1147644224_large.jpg)

For ‘Phenomenon’, I wanted to convey the emotions people generally feel when they are faced with a new challenge in their lives; Fear, anxiety, courage, are all things the central characters represent. I chose to illustrate the statue coming to life to represent a feeling of something ominous happening, and how the central figures react to such a phenomenon. I also chose to show more of my Greek routes in this image, which is why I chose the evil, mythical Goddess ‘Hera’ as the statue figure. Additionally, I chose a darker approach than usual in terms of my color palette, which I think compliments the statues presence. Overall, this image was easily the most challenging to create, and I’m satisfied with the results; I hope you are as well.

anticz
05-15-2006, 12:43 AM
Much improved but I still feel you could have a much stronger piece if you when back in and addressed your perspective issues. I did a quick mock up trying to mach the foreground to the background (much simpler fix than going back in and redoing the entire background). You're really not that far off.

http://anticz.com/farsh/SlickGreekGeo3.jpg

slickgreekgeo
05-15-2006, 03:08 AM
Much improved but I still feel you could have a much stronger piece if you when back in and addressed your perspective issues. I did a quick mock up trying to mach the foreground to the background (much simpler fix than going back in and redoing the entire background). You're really not that far off.

http://anticz.com/farsh/SlickGreekGeo3.jpg

That really does fix the perspective issues. Damn I wish I thought of that sooner! I applaud you for the effort taken to do this, I might go back and tweak it if I have time. Thanks again.

jeromoo
05-28-2006, 02:17 PM
My bad for not repaying your visit! I was browsing the finished entries and came by your entry, and felt that I must reply!

That Goddess Hera have such imposing appearance. She also looks like some kind of a carving on the hilt of a huge dagger! You nailed the mood, I can feel the moisture in the air in this one!

All the best to you in your final judging!

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