The Journey Begins Challenge (3D) Entry: Juraj Molcak

[medunecer]

Great atmosphere! And really cool style!

[smallone3d]

Hey I like it!

It draws the viewer to the center, the small dragon, and it it very suttle, becuase of the branches and the negative space...well done.
Question: Although the early sketches did show the journey the later ones seem not too, I am missing something.

Looking good though. Love that polygon style(like others have expressed)

cesar

[JurajMolcak]

Question: Although the early sketches did show the journey the later ones seem not too, I am missing something.

Thanx for nice words. Abou your question, I am not really sure what are you mean. Could you be more specific? If you are talking about creature´s pose, they are not riged at this time. So, there is no such a body storytelling as is one on the concept sketch. Hope it looks all right now :thumbsup:

[MT-Cup]

Oweron, I like where this is going. The scene is starting to look unwelcoming, which I think, ties in nicely with your proposed storyline. The framing is excellent, it draws your eyes in and keeps you captured in the scene. I'm love watching you progress.

[handlebar]

A very unique style, the foreground looks superbe. http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon7.gifhttp://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon13.gif

[smallone3d]

Thanx for nice words. Abou your question, I am not really sure what are you mean. Could you be more specific? If you are talking about creature´s pose, they are not riged at this time. So, there is no such a body storytelling as is one on the concept sketch. Hope it looks all right now :thumbsup:


Sorry, I will be more specific. On the sketch the little dragon is kind of looking backwards. You can see the cave, but on top of the cave/mountain you can see the lanscape, sort of saying, his journey is going to start over there, it is a suttle message, but there. On the new model, the cave/mountain sort of block this, so the only way the little dragon can see is to the front, and I sort of miss that other message. Anyway that's what I ment, let me know if it was clear.

Good stuff though

Cesar

[JurajMolcak]

saucersam - thank you, and welcome on my board.

tuck - these are very nice words from on of my favourites artist within this challenge. Thanx.

makaron - hey, mona! He is very old master, you can´t rush him :bowdown: There is a plenty of time. Just make sure your tea leaves are top quality.

centurionit - ha ha, ...so old. well, why not :thumbsup: Thank you.

se7enthcin - relax my friend... relax

shakes - yep. And thanx for networkin´ me.

melkao - ha ha, yeah, woock style rocks.

Stefan-Morrell - Thank you master :) The shader work probably will change the whole faceted look. Will see.

DimitrisLiatsos - oh Dimi, don´t do drugs, please :applause:

altar - ha, zjednodusil si si meno. Cool. Dik za "klobuk dole".

medunecer - Glad you like it. Thanx.

MT Cup - Thank you. Yes, it is very simple but effective compo trick. Happy that you like it too.

handlebar - Thanx :beer:

smallone3d - Thanx for specification. Now it´s clear. Everything will be there, still WIP. Hope that I will be able to "unblock" that thing, ´cause I had this kind of cave in my mind when I was working on first concept sketch. Keep watching :thumbsup:

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143332048_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143332048_large.jpg)

Hello challengers and guests :)

Here is another small step. Foliage modeling is almost done. Need to tweak background trees and few little details in foreground space. Enjoy it. Comments are welcome.

Good night.

[Womgoose]

I really like how the foliage frames the Dragon.

[Vedic-kings]

Wow man great update!

The stylistic ploy modeling is awesome!

Keep it up:thumbsup:

[CGone]

very nice work keep going

[Gunilla]

Indeed - lovely ornamental foliage... looks great :thumbsup:

Have you changed his pose so he's not looking backwards? I really like the earlier pose :)

[ChrisD01]

I like the expression of de baby dragon and the faceted style:applause:

[theodoru]

Ohh, so sad! The modeling and the texturing are wonderful and the expresion of the little dragon is simply amazing.

[handlebar]

Such beautiful work. It has lots of emotion attatched to it, fantastic.

[MT-Cup]

Poor little guy. I'm really enjoying the visual tricks you are using (like the leaf). I can't wait to see the finished composition.

[JurajMolcak]

Hello here, and thank you all for feedback. By name:

Womgoose - Glad you like it.

Vedic-kings - Yep :thumbsup:

CGone - Hope to keep this tempo till deadline.

Gunilla - No no, this is just because I wanted to show foliage with lil´one. The "looking backward" pose will be in final one for sure. Just need to rig them and pose them. It will be later, probably in May. I have texturing and lighting for April in my plans.

ChrisD01 - Happy that this style works pretty good with you folks . Thank you.

apocryph - Thanx for nice words :)

handlebar - So you feel it... that´s great :bounce:

MT Cup - yeah, the leaf came to my mind just during modeling. Happy you like it. Cheers.

[Selina42]

This just gets better and better! I love the way youve framed the scene with the curved branches and i love the last dying leaf, hanging from the tree!

[Womgoose]

and i love the last dying leaf, hanging from the tree!

I never noticed that before. Nice touch.

[makaron]

hmmm, you have to give the little one a teacup too.. :p haha

naaa, maybe not... but it looks better end better for every update... the old teamaster gonna be proud over this image... :D where did I put the hankerchiefs...

[shakes]

beautiful..the single leaf is a lovely touch!

[Russel-Nash]

Wow, I really like your style very much. :thumbsup:

Good luck.

Russel

[icedeyes]

I have been silently following your thread and i must say that i am impressed... perfect style from concept to realization... good luck

[Tigrenka]

Wow! I love the modeling of brances, Dragon is nice, but so sad :)

[ChewyPixels]

Aww...so sad. :cry:

:) Looking very good. Can't wait for the next update!

[asbassie]

Yes!! The leaf is a nice touch, your composition has a magical story feel and the modeling makes me think of masterful origami. Is momma-dragon still in production 'cause I'd love to see how you've worked it into an already beautiful layout.

[JurajMolcak]

Such a nice feedback friends as well this time. Thanx. It is hard to find time to search and write within your threads. But, I will do my best to make it possible :thumbsup:

Selina42 - thanx for pointing the leaf. Glad you feel it like that.

Womgoose - :thumbsup: ha ha, is that orange color too dark? You cool :thumbsup:

makaron - Old teamaster? You know what he told me? I hate how particular is he about my work... and I am not talking about lil´one... you should see him... eah. He told me: Work slow but fast, use brain but feel... blahhh. You know, that oldmaster stuff...

shakes - Glad you like the leaf. Just small workflow idea.

Russel-Nash - Thanx. Good luck to you too!

icedeyes - Now, you are not silent :bounce: Welcome and thank you!

Tigrenka - Wow, you are here..I love your works Tigrenka. Thanx for comment :)

Jedi-Juice - Keep watching. Thank you.

asbassie - Yes, momma-dragon is still wip as well the lil´one. I just wanted to switch for a while. But, it is almost time to jump back to creatures and make some final mesh. Thanx for nice words :)

Now, I have few language questions. What does this forum shorts mean? "LOL" "IMHO" I am just not really sure, ha ha. And don´t try to trick me, ha ha !

[Womgoose]

Womgoose - :thumbsup: ha ha, is that orange color too dark? You cool :thumbsup:


No I think it is perfect.
It is like the last leaf of hope or the final leaf before a long cold winter.
Really nice touch :)



Now, I have few language questions. What does this forum shorts mean? "LOL" "IMHO" I am just not really sure, ha ha. And don´t try to trick me, ha ha !

LOL = Laugh out loud
IMHO = In my humble opinion

[JurajMolcak]

[QUOTE=Womgoose]No I think it is perfect.
It is like the last leaf of hope or the final leaf before a long cold winter.
Really nice touch :)

Thank you. Now, I hope that there will be not too many realistic people looking for more leaves on the ground, LOL ( is it good :applause: )

[melkao]

woock update mate!...nice foilage:bounce:

[Versiden]

composition is well thought out, looking good and nice progress.

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143615986_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143615986_large.jpg)

Good morning all,

My latest update is here. This should be final for enviromental modeling. Might add or change something later on. Don´t take those shaders too serious, they are not finished at all. Feel free to comment. Now, it is time for creatures finalisation ( modeling, shaders, rigging ) - looks like long ride till the end of April :)

Cheers.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Good morning....composition works very well...and that single leaf...welll that was brilliant man!... :)

[authentic]

It will depends on final compositin (with characters) but maybe a light source from the hole at the top ?

[Silgrin]

It actually makes an impression of a beginning of a journey. A bit like a hell gate:) Waiting for more!

[makaron]

seems that the old teamaster driven you in a good direction... it´s beautiful... :bounce:this gonna have a great mood... when you get the lights and th rain into it... and too sad when you put in the little one and his mother...

[alvin-cgi]

Very cute design and style... remind me cartoon The Flinstones.:)




The Journey Begins (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=322760&highlight=alvin)
Spectacular 3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275950&highlight=alvin)

[Nomad]

Great environment update :thumbsup:


Keep up the great work :bounce:

[megabytes2004]

Great environment design. I like the way you design it. great stuff!!! good luck!!!



cheers!!!
megabytes2004

[melkao]

Hi my friend...the enviroment is getting really cool! you woock!:buttrock:

[ilusiondigital]

Juraj, your image is one of my favourites mate, beautiful atmosphere. I´ll keep an aye for the next step

[NEOCAPTORX]

Hello
Great enviroment, i like too much:thumbsup:

Keep your work :scream:

[shakes]

i love the shaders..I wouldn't change too much! looks great

[se7enthcin]

After looking at this for quite awhile, my concern is lighting. Bevels catch light quite well. Is it possible for you to incorporate small bevels in the geometry strategically to produce a better interaction between the lighting and geometry?

nice work my friend! :thumbsup:

[MT-Cup]

Loving the scene development. Had a good chuckle about your placing the skull there.

[rawwad]

Výborné! Tá scéna je velmi pekná, už sa ťeším na celú kompozíciu! :D

[M477]

Really nice work here, I love the idea! It's a bit sad though seeing the baby leave in the concept sketch though :sad:

[icedeyes]

very nice update... my only concern is that the main character might not have enough space with the skull in place... other than that as i already said... i love your entry...

[Hynol]

Very nice :). I like this one, and waiting for updates.

[jamiemccarter]

Really like your moss!! That looks great.

j

[FlaminGlow]

nice work Joraj, you've comed out with a great modeling piece, looking forward for your textures dude bring it on.:eek:

[3DDave]

Very unique style!

[JurajMolcak]

Hello friends. Looks like big feedback, and I thank you for it :wavey:

Versiden - Glad you found the time to checked out my thread.

Dimi - Thanx for pointing the leaf. Happy you like it.

authentic - Thank you for suggestion. I probably will not play with real lights. Might be just for few problematic parts. Mainly I will go for "painting" them. So will work with Brightness and colored shaders in order to achieve mood that I want.

Silgrin - ha ha, yeah, hell gate. Don´t take my wips too serious :beer: I don´t really want that scary hellish mood.

makaron - ha ha, I have some plans with GP´s skulls too :scream: Just kidding mona, relax...

alvin_cgi - The Flinstones? Man, my childhood memmories are awake :love:

Nomad - Thank you my friend. Happy you like it.

megabytes2004 - Good luck to you too! Cheers!

melkao - woock :buttrock: woock :buttrock: woock :buttrock:

ilusiondigital - Ooooh, such a nice compliment. Thank you! Keep watchin´

NEOCAPTORX - Hello. Thank you for nice words.

shakes - Yeah, base will be the same just want to add some more thing on it. Keep checkin´ this out, ha ha.

se7enthcin - Thanx man. Again, we are thinkin´the same way. But, this time, I am going to cut that fancy beveling. As I mentioned few steps up, this image will be real lights (almost) free. Keep watching my friend.

MT Cup - Hah, enjoy it now. There will be no skull in final piece. Just freshly dead and freshly sad creature.

rawwad - Vitaj spat! Super ze sa paci :cool:

M477 - Thanx for compliment. Yes, not every journey is full of joy. That´s what I want to say using some fantasy elements.

icedeyes - That´s all right. The skull is here just for fun within WIPs.

Hynol - Thank you. Keep watching.

jamiemccarter - That is so cool that you like it! It was kinda challenge for me, ´cause I don´t have any kind of fur plug_in. And I can´t find suitable shader for my XSI.

FlaminGlow - Thank you dude. Now, it is time for creature´s mesh finalisation. Than, I will run with textures for enviroment. Just want switch within my workflow. Keep watching.

3DDave - Thanx :thumbsup:

Uff, pretty long page. Thank you all again! Keep it up.

[makaron]

makaron - ha ha, I have some plans with GP´s skulls too :scream: Just kidding mona, relax...

naaa... I´m not worried... haha.. would look nice tho with some sculls... here you are, I´m draw this GP anatomic a while ago... so you know how a GP-scull look like... :p

http://hem.bredband.net/makaron/sk.jpg

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143909316_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1143909316_large.jpg)

Ahojte :)

This one is submited in order to know what you friends think about it. That´s where I want to go for final look of my creatures. Need to tweak some parts and bumps, but It catches the look pretty close. Open for discussion.

Cheers.

[ziriguidum]

your artistic line is very expressive. Congrats! :applause:

[se7enthcin]

It's like in that dream I had where I was playing tetris and the blocks made a dragon. :eek:

Very nice style. I think it works out very well. Bravo!

[MT-Cup]

Mother looks great. Not very healthy, but I do like the bump you've given the skin.

[melkao]

Hey man...i like the skin bump...good job!:thumbsup:

PD:Woock!:buttrock:

[Gunilla]

Ahhh... yes, that is a really nice bump for her! I'd suggest you be careful not not make it to similar to the rocks though - a contrast in surfaces would be good I think. Will baby dragon have the same kind of bumps or are they developed by age?
You're doing very well here - congrats for that :)

[shakes]

looks perfect..can't crit a thing..love the texturing style! I like the way you've done his reptile skin very much!

[medunecer]

Really no crits. Your character is great. I think it's very difficult in CGI to find a new style, but you did it! The design lokking really original. Really great!

[SONIC-X]

Hey ,this dragon looks realy cool.Nice work dude.

[Russel-Nash]

Simply amazing.:bounce:


Russel

[JurajMolcak]

Morning friends, nice to see nice feedback. Mini-me will be fine for this challenge to work on my models, though, ha ha ha. Hard to catch the tempo with you.

ziriguidum - Cool, hope to keep my expressivness not to kill drama. :applause:

se7enthcin - Ha ha, I just catch the name for my BIG´MOM. Her name is Tetris. Thank you!

MT Cup - Now, she doesn´t looks healthy... But she is going to be dead! Oh my dear...

melkao - I just can´t go without this word. Woock :buttrock: Woock :buttrock: Woock :buttrock:

Gunilla - welcome back my brosis! They are bumped from age 5. My lil´one is almost 13.

shakes - Now, these words from you Mr. makes me happy as strong as the lil´one is sad. Thanx.

medunecer - Yesa :bounce: Thank you!

SONIC-X - Thanx for feedback dude! How´s life?

Russel-Nash - Oh, that´s pretty nice morning with those kind of words! Good luck!

Now, back to work. Got some time to finish mother´s look, hopefully.

[Nomad]

Nice progress, I love the draco look :love:


I`m looking forward to see the whole composition:bounce:

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1144226075_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1144226075_large.jpg)

Good morning!

Some bump correction done. This should be final mesh for big´mom. Now it´s time to correct lil´one´s mesh and surface.

Have a nice time folks!

[ravioli_rancher]

Oweron,

What amazing modeling and design! Very clever way of dealing with such a dark concept. Very anxious to see the scene fully textured and lit. :cool:

[komsa]

Very nice and stylish! I've been inspired!

myJourney (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=10869)

[zhengbyby]

:bowdown: I like it!!very cool

[elmasfeo]

:drool: definitely one of my favourites, I love every single bit of it.... I can't wait for more updates... :bowdown:

[JurajMolcak]

Ahojte!

ravioli_rancher - Thanx for calling "me" clever, ha ha ha :applause: Seriously, thanx for nice words. Hope there will be no such a fighting within feelings because of tahat way of dealing.

komsa - Glad to read your words. Thank you!

elmasfeo - Thanx. Progress will be slower for upcoming time. Lot of other work needs to be done. Keep watching.

[FlaminGlow]

Amazing dagon, Oweron.:eek:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I know ..i am not original....i love your style man.!..simply ...love it...The mother is looking great...:)

[Gunilla]

Ha! I didn't notice her four breasts until now - great detail!
Doing well here, bro ;)

[thedirtypaw]

i think its great! are you gonna make the skin between the "bones" of the wing with sss like real skin and the rest very stone-ish ? great model.. :thumbsup:

[shakes]

just pefect..so much character and originality!

[JurajMolcak]

Uaahaa, Good morning friends...

zhengbyby - Thank you :bounce:

FlaminGlow - Glad you fancy it that way.

DimitrisLiatsos - No no, every single word from you is original. Thank you!

Gunilla - You! Have a look at my sketch of her! They are there from begining :scream: I know, sisters always ignore breasts on characters :applause:

thedirtypaw - thank you! And yes, I have plans to use SSS for soft parts of the body. Will see how strong.

shakes - Ahhh, I wish I have "fur". You changed my feeling about them with your alien GP! I want them!

Have a nice day :wavey:

[centurionit]

I looove the image you are going to finish!!! Their expression is so magic...the environment too, as i wrote old and now i add: magic...Beautifull!!! :bounce:

I love the modeling and the technique..brilliant!

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=330707

[a-papantoniou]

Very - very nice!!! Very stylish and unique. Keep it up man!

[Larsen]

Yup very nice work oweron...and this from the beginning, i loveyour concept and now the texture work don't deceive me at all, you have the style and techniques to make a great image, i'm looking for more and more :love:

[JurajMolcak]

centurionit - Thank you for such a nice compliment!

a-papantoniou - Thank you as well! You are working on unique project yourself, so these words from you are very strong motivation too :beer:

cipher - ha, thank you my friend. Will be slower, and it looks like I am going to fight with deadline so hard this time. Aaah, lot of things to learn around this 3D world :thumbsup:

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1144787720_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1144787720_large.jpg)

Ahojte,

Final for lil´one modeling.
Not bump-mapped yet. The bump will follow topology ( the same look as on big´mom ) Open for comments :)

Cheers!

[makaron]

perfect... :applause:

[raghavendraachari]

hi friend ur work is so good and stylish and i very eager to see ur final output
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=338776 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=338776)

[shakes]

perfect... :applause:
I second that! just adorable and unique..love it!

[MT-Cup]

I second that! just adorable and unique..love it!

I agree! :bowdown:

[se7enthcin]

I second that! just adorable and unique..love it!

consider this third....ed or forth....ed

What I mean is to say me too me too! :)

[vincent1]

Very spot on modelling and execution according to your artisitic direction and style, a valuable skill indeed.

Crit my journey:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=324688&page=3

[melkao]

heheheh another cool woockpdate! my friend....i really like the dregon modeling, and the expression is just amazing:thumbsup:

[medunecer]

Wonderful! Your style is really unique!

[Gunilla]

consider this third....ed or forth....ed

What I mean is to say me too me too! :)

May I join the choir too? :)

Excellent modeling for the little hero - he's very touching already... it's a fun thing to create other emotions for the critters than the ususal ones... can't remember when I wanted to hug a dragon last :D

[oceanbluesky]

Oh stop crying Lil'One! --Very creative and inspiring curved-trees to frame your scene...really like your approach to modeling in general...very stylized, non-photorealistic...exciting...the crooked curves on your dragon's wingtips...his square nostrils...you've really gone far with a stylistic approach many stuck in photoreal approximations find challenging (myself included)...great imagination, thanks for the inspiration!

[amitb]

nice theme .............:thumbsup:

[authentic]

excellent. What to add...
MAybe the hole between the fingers in the hand is a little too big. But that's a detail.

[Poonks]

Love your style it's really differrent and so nice!


Keep it up :thumbsup:

[JurajMolcak]

Hello and good morning as well, ha ha... was long night.

makaron, shakes, MT Cup, se7enthcin, Gunilla - :applause: you people of choir, Thank you very much. All together, we can build strong army, we have power, we have skills, we h... ups, sorry. That´s different story.

raghavendraachari - Welcome and thank you my friend! Keep watching.

vincent1 - Nice words from you too. Thanx. I am going to crit yours, for sure :thumbsup:

melkao - You still see the woockness within. That´s cool ´cause it is subdivided a little. Thanx for cheering me up.

medunecer - Happy to read this from you! I am big fan of your micronaut theme.

oceanbluesky - Very nice list of points to compliment my work from you. Thanx for that as well.

amitb - Yep :thumbsup:

authentic - Thanx for suggestion. Good point - details are very important. Will play with it.

Poonks - And thank you as well. Keep watching.

[centurionit]

I confirm every single word....beautifull...his expression...so sad....brilliant....I love everything

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=330707

[Nomad]

Great :applause: :applause: :applause:


Nothing to add, I love your lil draco :love:and I`m looking forward for the final scene composition :bounce:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Yes...it so beautiful work...what to crit?:bounce:

[JurajMolcak]

Morning all!

Three on list :thumbsup:

centurionit
Nomad
DimitrisLiatsos

Thank you friends. You folks made my day. From this moment on, the challeng will run faster I think. I have plans for every week if I want to finish till deadline, uff. Keep watching...

[mttjss]

still goin strong :bounce: I am lovin it!


keep it up. It doesnt seem like you have too much left to hit on.

only question:
How come in the concept the little draco has a jagged shape head like the body, but the final mesh his face and beak are smooth? just curious.

it is definitely my favorite so far. I have a new artist to idolize!

matt -

[JurajMolcak]

How come in the concept the little draco has a jagged shape head like the body, but the final mesh his face and beak are smooth?

Hi matt, nice to see your nick here again.
Thanx for nice compliment and about your question - Yes, it is less jagged, and I have few answers why, but, lil´one will look backward so you won´t see his face in final pict, ha ha ha :p
I want to use some soft surface like SSS on parts like wings, beak, naked body,... like contrast in order to make them closer to "human" and "human´s feelings"... And I need contrast with background too. I think, it could work. Keep watching.

[ravioli_rancher]

Oweron,

If you turn the lil' one away from the camera, his eyes will be lost. Won't that mean the tears will also hide? And without the tears, well, hmph. The operatic drama becomes more of a murmer, maybe.

Please please please include the tears falling from the eye. As you know already from drawing out your character concepts, it provides a great contrast (water from a fire breathing lizard), and another chance to use SSS and bright speculars and bizarre reflections.

Maybe its a magic tear, that lights the path to a new, safer life. Or a steaming tear the stinks up the foiliage.

Either way. Please please please make sure to add at least one visible tear. Please :applause:

Oh, and once again, awesome work. :bowdown: :arteest: :drool: :cry:

[JurajMolcak]

Please please please make sure to add at least one visible tear. Please

:applause: you are RANCHER, you can´t love tears... you have to be strong... Aaaahhh, there was no such an idea to use tears in final pict. To me, that was just fun within wip. I know, it looks catchy, but I don´t know, I have doubts... To me, tears will make image more pathetic, cliche like, even if they will be XXL. Plus, there will be RAIN to add some contrast you mentioned. I am going to keep your "please" in mind, for sure :thumbsup: Thank you.

[kiboSVK]

cafko Juraj pekny mesh toho dracika pekne zaujimavy origos styl CHVALIM a VYCHVALUJEM

[makaron]

hallo Juraj
if I send over a easterchicken to play peek-a-boo http://hem.bredband.net/makaron/chick_24.gifwith your little one,
do you think he will be happy over the weekend?

and I really hope you have an update to show us soon... :)

[JurajMolcak]

tomas slobodnik - Cauko Tomas. Vdaka za povzbudive slova :bounce:

makaron - Mona, he is already happy. Well, you can´t really see it on his face, but I´ll give you "mind inside" look. Check out next photo of him :thumbsup: Thank you!

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145044695_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145044695_large.jpg)

Hello challengers and guests :)

Here is bump-maped final mesh for my lil´ fella. Thanx to "makaron", he has some nice feelings these days. Happy Easter.

C&C are very welcome. Cheers!

[Womgoose]

Beautiful mesh, Beautiful image, Beautiful Easter render for all - thank you and happy easter to you too :)

[makaron]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145044695_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145044695_large.jpg)



yeah... I´m happy to see he have happy thoughts...
http://hem.bredband.net/makaron/chick_25.gif
and the little one looks just great in that skin... so stylish... so good looking...

[Gunilla]

He is remembering his happy childhood! :cry::cry:

Now, this is truly to much for my soft heart... I wish you a Happy Easter anyway :D

[shakes]

beautiful, elegant work on the bumpmapping, and cute image..happy easter to you, too, Oweron!

[burpy]

The final meshes with the bump on them are looking great. Cool style and execution, and I can't wait to see it all composited into the background.

Just keep going...:)

[Nothingness]

and an amazing model it is, oweron!!

the style is just sweet and the emotion as well.


just perfect.

[Marcus_B]

can't wait to see the final image.

[JurajMolcak]

Hello folks :wavey:

Womgoose - Wonderful feeling to read that kind of feedback. Thanx for it! Do apes celebrate HAPPY EASTER as well?

makaron - Yep, happy with you Mona ;) Thank you.

Gunilla - Ha ha ha, happy childhood = Happy Easter. Don´t cry, Just smile.

shakes - Thank you master :bowdown: Your furry aliens makes me see you this way.

burpy - welcome back dragonman! Long time you was here. Hows life? I still need to rig them in order to compose final scene, uff. I think, you know how time is running...

Nothingness - Glad you like it that way. Thank you!

Marcus_B - Ha ha, hope you can´t wait for final in order to say "good job" :beer: Cheers!

Now, it is time for little tour. Need to visit my family, my girlfriend´s family, friends might be... Till Tuesday, just rest from my workstation. Thank you all for making this challenge interesting and full of nice thoughts as well for me.

[Silgrin]

Lovely tired dragon. This is a real beginning of a journey! He already does look overwhelmed with its length;)

[JurajMolcak]

Lovely tired dragon. This is a real beginning of a journey! He already does look overwhelmed with its length;)

Ha ha ha, tired and overwhelmed, aaaa, looks like you missed the point, or you are tired of browsing threads yourself. O.K. let´s call it sad :sad: Thanx for feedback!

[maxter3d]

Hey Oweron,

Really love your dragon(ling). Really sweet. Stylized wings etc, are really nice touches good luck with the competition.

[JurajMolcak]

Hey maxter3d - ha ha ha, "dragonling"... you really mean "darling" ? That is sweet. Thanx for compliment and wish you good luck too :)

[ziriguidum]

amazing! your artistic line is very expressive. The character is very melancholy and this is beautiful

[JurajMolcak]

Hey ziriguidum, I have to say that I love how you use words like "artistc line" here within my thread. Glad you like it this way.
Now folks, I have some hard times around RIG and WEIGHT setup :cry: Hope this week will be enough, or... :wip: :banghead: Ups, too many emotions... Better have sleep.
Night night.

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145634122_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145634122_large.jpg)

Aaaahojte :)

No, one week was not enough. I just made mother rig and weighting. With this setup I hopefully will be able to pose her as I want to. Ha ha, 36 days to go, ha ha... I CAN NOT BELIEVE IT!

[Womball]

Yay for polys! The style looks great, and that rig looks complex. I bet you could animate with it! Don't remind me the time limit! I will most likely have a week to finish everything!

[namson]

i really like your concept and dragon is nicely modeled

[oceanbluesky]

Shesh, am I glad Lil'Fella has a mother! --Like the added touch of giving her breast too... kind of funny on a fire breathing dragon. Speaking of which, you seem to have a thing about breast, eh? Nothing's wrong with that of course -- but what the heck is this?!? : )

http://www.dvadetride.sk/galeria/defacto.html

I wish the world had more breasts too -- but, I guess it just never occured to me they could be coming out of the woodwork, literally. Hey, I'm down with that. Good idea.

This is an especially beautiful piece:

http://www.dvadetride.sk/galeria/pokoj.html

Love the colors.

Good luck!

[shakes]

it's a really beautiful dragon, Oweron..lovely stuff..the perfect pair!

[JurajMolcak]

Womball - Thank you for nice words. Ha ha, I don´t need time reminder myself, May looks pretty extreme full for me ( job, school, challenge, and I am not talking about personal life). The rig is not that complex for details, but for basic movement it is.

namson - Thank you for your compliment.

oceanbluesky - LOL, ha ha ha, thats cool you picked some of my favourites. I don´t want to talk too much about that breast thing. You know, life could come with some very strange chapters. And about second one...yes, I love it as well. And I love it even more because of another chapter of life around that piece. Good luck to you too:thumbsup:

shakes - shakes, shakes, shakes... you are always here with something nice. Big Thanx for such a support ;)

[MT-Cup]

I'm really loving what I see so far. :drool: I'm getting quite excited to see the finish. :applause:

[JurajMolcak]

MT Cup - Oooh you, my keyboard going wet all around :D Aaah, looks like I have to count with that kind of feedback as well, Aaah, thank you my friend :applause:

[makaron]

poor mother dragon... its so sad to see her and know what happend her. :cry:

but she is looking great... :bounce: just fantastic...

[JurajMolcak]

Hey mona, Few days ago I spend nice time within my girlfriend´s family and gues what (?) Room was full of that crazy GP´s sound, ha ha ha :thumbsup: Now, I know, GPs rulez!
Thanx for nice words, and big thanx for your nice support around this challenge!

[makaron]

your work is so easy to support, its to good to pass on that... hope you give us more soon :)
and my own little Ninja http://hem.bredband.net/makaron//ninjamove.gif
agree with you... GPs rulez... weeep, squeeek...

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145999006_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1145999006_large.jpg)

Hello again!

BIG´MOM and LIL´ONE together for the first time!
This is my turntable preview. What you folks think, is it all right to use bump map within modeling turntable for this challenge? Should be o.k. from my point of view.
Now, it is time for texturing / lighting / compositing / finishing :) Should be fun. Keep going as well.
C&C are welcome.

Cheers :)

[Womgoose]

If the 'bumpmap' is what you used for the scales then yeah I would say it should be used because it is a huge part of the model and it wouldn't be the same without it.

They look so cute :)

[oceanbluesky]

Terrific turntable poses Juraj! Very expressive...by the way, I agree with your character sheet, she definitely "isn't a chicken" -- although, while camping last year I found one on the side of the road and made a few dragon kabbobs, which tasted like chicken. Very good actually.

[shakes]

really fantastic elegant work Oweron! superb style..hadn't noticed her quad titties before..cute! looks perfect for a turntable to me. congrats

[MT-Cup]

Lovely turntable! The poses and the way they relate to each other is perfect. So much expression. :thumbsup: Truely a lovely piece.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

The turntable by itself alon is a masterpiece. Definitely one of my most loved ones in this Challenge....What a wonderfull work and style...arrghh...awesome. There i said it! . :love:

[makaron]

excellent for a turntable... :applause: and I *right-click* and saved the image too...

[JurajMolcak]

Womgoose - yes, I was thinking the same way. I will see anyway ´cause resolution for turntable should be 320 x 240 px, what is pretty small. Thanx.

oceanbluesky - Thank you for compliment. Ha ha ha, did you notice that chicken stuff? :thumbsup: And Dragon kabbobs tasting like chicken? I don´t think so... That was halloween masked chicken for sure, lol.

shakes - yeah, mother has some parts that probably will be hidden in final pict. But, that´s the power of character, thought. Thank you.

MT Cup - And that is such a nice feedback from you, thank you!

DimitrisLiatsos - Ou yeah, big compliment from big master :bowdown: Thanx Dimitris!

makaron - :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: So it means we have our tiny space in your harddrive? That is so cool! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Gunilla]

Oh yes, excellent choice for turntable :thumbsup:

I agree with the rest here - you're doing really well with this, everything is top notch ... it's a bit annoying not having anything to crit. :D

[irananimator]

Woow realy realy nice.
i like your Concept Sketch and character.
Good luck :thumbsup:
my Work.im waiting for your c&c.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=328957&page=1&pp=15

[kreuz]

nice guy , i love the poly style in the skin , nice chracteristic:bounce:

[Versiden]

looking really good, nothing to crit. I would have used a bump or displacement also, so I say go for it. Good luck for texturing, waiting for more

[Lempface]

Love it all so far.. It is fantastic, I would just suggest you wrap the momma's tail around and lay it on the turn table to just perfect the poses. Other than that.. sheer brilliance.

[JurajMolcak]

Good morning folks,

Gunilla - Thank you YO! ha ha ha, you know, not every day is sunday :arteest:

iran_animator - Hey Thank you! Good luck to you too! I am familiar with your thread, I am silently watching it ;)

kreuz - Hi kreuz, good to see you here again. Thank you for your feedback.

Versiden - and Thank you for compliment as well! I am probably going to ask that in FAQ thread, just to make sure. Good luck with deadline hunting and everything to you too :thumbsup:

Lempface - welcome here and thank you for nice words. The thing about tail is, that they both are automated beacause of animation usage, and its kinda task to pose them exactly, ha ha ha - it was probably stupid to make them like this for still.

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146304270_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146304270_large.jpg)

Hello here :)

Submiting my enviroment texturing / lighting progress. I will share my Rendertree later on. Everything is done mostly with procedurals (simbiont + native XSI stuff). JPG compression probably kill some details (150kb limit). About lighting - I am using AO for that issue and I will tweak whole image within postcorrections, thats why it looks kinda flat now. Hope you like it anyway :)
Feel free to comment, thank you.

[Tremoside]

Hi neighbour, :) Thanks for the comment in my thread. I was laughin, coz i also checked your thread often. Very-very cute chars you have and those're also excellent for animation. Your scene is a bit grey for me but it fits with the mood and emotionally correct. maybe some coloured areas in the foreground can give more interesing depth to the image. Color- perspective. It's gonna be an amazing piece! :thumbsup:

[MT-Cup]

I can not offer anything helpful at this point other than to say, I love where this is going. :thumbsup:

[JurajMolcak]

Tremoside - thanx for takin´part in here, and thanx for nice words! About that color issue: I know what are you talking about ( have a look on my Spectacular entry, LOL :) ), but it is kinda intention ´cause I want to play with colors later on - and this greyish look is very good to build on, so... color depth will be ( hopefully ) there. Keep watching.

MT Cup - Well, this do to me too, ha ha ha. Thank you :thumbsup:

[melkao]

Hey man...that was a woock time from you last woockdate......and really cool the enviroment ...is really woock!:buttrock:

[shakes]

stunning work..this will be a wonderful image. no crits, just praise!

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Juraj! Really like this image...the bright leaf dangling, the soon to be bright red dragon against gray...especially the "fingers" of the tree limb hanging in front of the cave. Looking forward very much to more! Good luck

[JurajMolcak]

melkao - I nearly forgot :scream: WOOCK! WOOCK! WOOCK! :D

shakes - Man, you are one of my biggest cheerleader, ha ha ha :bounce: gimme S gimme H gimme A gimme K gimme E gimme SSS :bounce: Thank you.

oceanbluesky - Glad you point that things out. And "fingers" - exactly! Thanks for watching my thread. Good luck to you too.

[medunecer]

It will be a great piece!

[JurajMolcak]

Ha ha ha, medunecer, hope your prophecy become reality :bowdown: ( 26th of May will be perfect :D )

[Larsen]

Woot yeah ! This rock set is totally in the style of the characters, that will be awesome together, i can't wait :buttrock:

[rawwad]

WOW! No proste nádhera! To prostredie vyzerá fakt cool! Velmi sa mi to páči, ešte dráčkov a je to !? :scream: Teším sa :applause:

[JurajMolcak]

cipher - hope you didn´t miss some creatures tweak. Coz I slightly made them different in order to point them out from enviroment. Thank you for compliment :)

rawwad - Cauko Tibor. Uz som sa zlakol, ze si zanevrel na sutaz aj sutaziacich, ha ha ha :thumbsup: Dik za povzbudive slova. Urcite vies ako tazke je robit na tychto sutaziach popri skole aj praci, ufff. Drz sa!

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146608964_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146608964_large.jpg)

This is example of my Render Tree setup workflow I am using for this project. It is basically the same for almost every element of my scene. Lighting is based on AO illumination node and I will tweak that within postpro level. I am still discovering the ability and possibility of Render Tree and it looks like pretty long but interesting JOURNEY, thought.

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146609478_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1146609478_large.jpg)

And another progress for tonight - lil´one evolution :) Hope you like it.
C&C are always welcome. Thank you.

Uuaaa, time to get some sleep. Good night/morning :)

[MT-Cup]

Nice. :thumbsup:

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Juraj, really like very much the non-glossy pastel like look of your dragon's surface...makes him seem more real, touchable....less CG.

" Uuaaa" <-- is that Slovakian for a yawn?? : ) Sounds like one to me! Good luck!

[shakes]

I just LOVE the colours! sweet!

[Climax]

He looks great, Colors are nice since he is a dragon, but as a suggestion why not try a gamma of blues, that would surely increase he's sad mood, just make a test in photoshop playing with the hue & saturations to see if you like it
Nice progress pal, time is running out, good luck! ;)

[VictorV]

Really nice style, and imaginative characters! They have a very animated quality. Looking
forward to seeing the finish. Good Luck.

[Gunilla]

Very nice - I love the painterly style for texture, great contrast to the modeling. Oh, this is getting better and better all the time :)

[Liseelulu]

:applause: OMG this is amazing! I Love your style and the theme and that baby dragon is the cutest thing ever!!! WOW! :applause:

[Dironik]

Amazingly.:thumbsup: I like your style, is very interesting. Nice color.:applause:
Good luck.

[JurajMolcak]

Hello everybody! Thank you for feedback

MT Cup - ha ha ha, very fast replay :wip:

oceanbluesky - Glad you feel it that way. That is goal. And yes, it is kind of "yawn stuff" and I have more for you: Ouaaah, Heeaaa, :D

shakes - I can´t figure out what does that "fust" word mean - even with dictionary. Only one I found is "fusty" and that is kinda disgusting. Anyway, Thank you :applause:

Climax - Ou yes, nice suggestion. And I have to say, what I mentioned before - I am going to tweak light and color mood within postpro level. I am going to use Color Finesse and AE for that, and hopefully I will add some blues there. Thanx for nice feedback. Keep watching.

VictorV - Thank you. Good luck to you too!

Gunilla - Hello Gunnie! My sis! Thanx for nice words. Yes, I just can´t and don´t want to go too far from my classical painting background. I want to transform it into 3D by chance. Keep watching.

Liseelulu - LOL, cutest thing ever?! Hey Shakes, YOU SEE ? Ha ha ha :applause: Thank you Lisa.

Deser - Yep, Thank you and Good luck to you too!

[safe05]

Wonderful character design and modeling! Great job!

[soapy]

Hey good stuff, great designs and modeling. Very poignant emotional expressions coming through. Looking forward to seeing this one develop. Good luck.

[Identity3D]

Jurai, Amazing stuff my man. Love the whole feel of the scene. The characters are amazing, i have a feeling this entry will go very far if not i will be disappointed. Best of luck amazing project

[nerdyninja]

I love your style and your texturing and your modeling. Its wonderful! I like how your modeling stays true to your concept. I think it is great! The idea is very endearing and sad.

Also I dont know if you said something about this or not as i didnt have the chance to read all your pages, but I would love to see the lighting more dramatic. I really liked that first rendering you did to test the lights. More dark and moody. I think it should be fairly dark around the focal point of the two dragons. Depth of field along with like a mist look though more misty as you go out of the focal point. Maybe not even exactly mist but like smoke after a big fire has been burning and is now smoldering as it rains. That kind of mist. I think right before dawn would be a great time to signafy the end to the beginning and that kind of color sheme and atmosphere would work great. Just letting you know what i thought when i saw your concept art. Hope i didnt talk to much. sorry....;)

[Womball]

This is coming along very nicely! I do miss the older polygonal only style, but this one works. Just don't like those rectangular bumps on the face.

[JurajMolcak]

Good morning :thumbsup: (pretty late)

safe05 - Thank you. First cheer up for today.

soapy - Hey soapy! Welcome here and thanx for nice words! Keep watching.

Identity - Glad you like it. Your reply have even more stronger impact to me ´coz I spend almost one year of my life in Dublin. Aaahh, nice memories... Keep watching :)

nerdyninja - Thanx for nice feedback. Yes, I was talking about lights and mood already. The thing is, that I am going to do additional coloring and light´s tweaking within postproduction stage. That mood on my test you mentioned was done the same way - in AfterEffects, and I want to achieve something close to it. It is crucial to set the mood and colors correct and I think it is more flexibile in 2D than 3D for this project. Love your "mood after big fire" suggestion. Keep watching :thumbsup:

Womball - yes, older polygonal only style is my "love" as well. But I think I found the way how to keep that lowpoly feel in my final mesh. Abou that face bump - I know, it looks kinda strange, but I want to keep it there, though. Thank you.

[MT-Cup]

I'm just in love with the little guy. If you think about it, he's make a lovely new avatar for you. ;)

[JurajMolcak]

If you think about it, he's make a lovely new avatar for you. ;)

Ou YES, and then I will be the SAD and CUTE ONE :D For now, I am happy with my birdy one: http://www.dvadetride.sk/wip/vtaky1.html

[oceanbluesky]

Well if we're cooking up extra requests: maybe after the competition when you have free time a shot of him smiling would be neat -- cause he's soooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuute n' precccccccioussssssss.

[Gunilla]

Ou YES, and then I will be the SAD and CUTE ONE :D

Don't think that is likely to happen :D

But you do have a point - it's not good having an avatar that makes people want to cry when you turn up. Look at mine, everyone starts to scratch themselves - much better :D

Sorry for the useless spam, I'm just tired :)

[living_for_cg]

i like your style ... thats so nice and cute modeling , waiting to see the final image:bounce:

[JackZhang]

super render tree of the dragon! I'm lovin it! *tears in my big dark lovely blinking eyes*

[JurajMolcak]

I don´t know, I just feel pretty down today. Better to have new avatar. oceanbluesky, i will think about it after this mood. It looks like it will be nice training for shape animation setup. I never did it before, no lipsynch, no facial expression, nothing. Gunilla, your spam is very refreshing. I never scratch myself by looking at your avatar - until now. Will you change it, please? living_for_cg, thank you for nice words. Believe me, I will be very very happy with this one finished. I am kinda loosing energy these days. JackZhang, Did you ask some girl around you to describe how your eyes looks? Thank you.

[oceanbluesky]

Whoa! Buck up Juraj! You've got a wonderfully inspired work here...you are gifted and talented and working in 3-thankgod-D!

Hope you have a good early start to the weekend! (Whenever I'm down I go over to Easter Island for a few days. You might give that a try?)

[Gunilla]

Hang in there bro! We all go through this stage ... it's a loong time to keep the energy level up. Take a day off, go to the park, eat some ice cream and get back refreshed. I expect to see you among the winners with this :)

[gpepper]

This is amazing !
Just artistic !
And your shader skills are great !
Artistic and technic... :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

I didnt see so cute dragon in a long time. :) The pose is great and the texture too. The washed colors really fits in that world...

[JurajMolcak]

oceanbluesky, Gunilla - ohoo :eek: many thanx for cheering me up friends. Yeah, I know, we all go through that kind of stage. I had pretty relaxing day today and tomorrow I am probably going to spend in village with my family and some "garden-plot work" :D Oceanbluesky - you meant that I might give a try to "Easter Island trip" ha ha ha. Once. ( of course I know what you meant )

gpepper - Thanx for nice words :thumbsup: "amazing and artistic" sounds pretty strong. Now, that´s good to know that I am on good way.

InTerceptoV - You, here? That is cool ´coz I like your thread. I´ll stop there by chance as well. Thanx for feedback.

That´s it for today. Night Night.

[FlaminGlow]

wonderfull texturing and colors. :eek:

[MT-Cup]

Ou YES, and then I will be the SAD and CUTE ONE :D For now, I am happy with my birdy one: http://www.dvadetride.sk/wip/vtaky1.html

LOL! I finally got to watch your bird. Now I know why he has that expression. :eek: Poor thing.

Don't lose hope now, you're very very close. I just adore this piece and really want to see you finish it. :drool:

[Kenzor]

I love your cute dragons. They have great character and emotion.

[JurajMolcak]

Hello friends!

FlaminGlow - Glad you like it. Thanx.

MT Cup - Now you know it, that´s cool! And many thanx for your support. I am here and working :wip:

ken T - Yep, Thank you!

[Selina42]

Hey Oweron!

Sorry for my recent absence from the forum -I'm just glad to be back and am amazed by so much exciting stuff!

This image is wihout a doubt one of my faves -it has a style all of its own -so striking! -And for me youve really nailed it in the emotions of the characters in relation to the story through the posture -a very difficult thing to really get across for most of us!

Please dont run out of steam with this image! -This work is a total inspiration to me!

[JurajMolcak]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1147041212_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9663/9663_1147041212_large.jpg)

Hello again :)

Another WIP here - big´mom evolution. She is going to be more desaturated due to depth issue in final composition. Hope you like it the same way as lil´one. C&C are welcome. Thank you!

Cheers

[ihamid]

hiya Oweron. u got the most cool stylish dragons here mate. want to see the comp now !
cheers!

[hhssuu]

Wow nice appoach, i haven't check up on the forum for a while, sorry i missed yours, interesting style, i really like you're way of using the polygons as graphical structures. Nice stuff

[wheelgator]

the style of these are very very nice

[JurajMolcak]

Hello friends,

Selina42 - Welcome back and don´t worry about your absence. Glad you are back :thumbsup: Thank you for nice words and support.

yunisirees - hiya my friend! It´s a long time... Thank you for feedback and good luck with deadline hunting, lol

hhssuu - Yep, that kind of polygon usage was in my mind from begining. Glad you found it attractive. Keep watching.

wheelgator - Thank you as well :)

[MT-Cup]

She's looking good. I'm surprised, given mom's final "disposition" that you didn't make her bit grayer. :thumbsup:

[vincent1]

HI Oweron. Popping by again. The dead mom is looking good. Better take it up a notch, deadline's looming. :-)

[shakes]

she's fantastic Oweron- matches your high standaard through the whole challenge. beautiful work.

[melkao]

hey my friend ...the bog mom is just WOOCK!:buttrock:

[yoff]

I am really excited about this! If you manage to pose them (especially the child) as expressively as in the original scetch, it will be an amazing piece...

[JurajMolcak]

MT Cup - Glad you like her! I will tweak colors later on. Just need to see whole composition together in order to catch the mood as good as I can :thumbsup:

vincent1 - Welcome back! Thanx. This will be very close deadline hunting for me. Lot of work needs to be done till the end of May...

shakes - Yep, thank you Shakes!

melkao - woock :buttrock: woock :buttrock: woock :buttrock: Thanx!

yoff - Oh man, I am just fighting with poses right now. It is harder than I was expecting. I know, it is pretty crucial point... Thank you for nice feedback.

[JurajMolcak]

Hi folks, just figure out that you can check out my turntable here
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=9663

enjoy :thumbsup:

[MT-Cup]

Turntable looks good and really echos the feelings your composition will invoke. Nice. :thumbsup:

[shakes]

VERY cute tutntable!!

[komsa]

They always admires me! (your dragons :) ) Lovely colours! Especially on membranes and tail. You doin' great, keep it up!

myJourney (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=10869)

[JurajMolcak]

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Hello friends,

This is my first attempt for final poses. Death of big_mom should emphasize arrows I will add later on. Comments are more than welcome. Thank you.

[komsa]

I think lil one it's to big in scene perspective. It seems doesn't make him looks lost and lonely. And his eye looks angry cause of angle of eyeslot.

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[Gunilla]

Turntable looks great!
And now the beginning of the final steps - wooo! :bounce:

So... I really liked your first concept where he was looking back. I know it's tricky since you can't see his expression that way, but his body could be expressive enough I think. Also I think komsa has a good point in that it could be a good thing to make him a bit smaller in comparision.
I'm hanging around waiting so see how you proceed with this - I have faith in you, bro :thumbsup:

[BAMU]

hi Oweron,
to be honest I like more camera wiew from begining [at leas smth around that] those shots have a little more dramatism and fellings, in rest, beautiful work :buttrock:

[Climax]

Hi Juraj, the pose look good, tough, in the composition at first sight the body of the mother looks extrange, She may be death but the position she is, is kind of uncofortable and complicated, maybe if she is lying with her belly against the floor like she had a peacefull death and a sad expression on her's face knowing she is leaving her's only son alone...
Good job, and hurry up :)

[AdamHerbert]

Hey Oweron, Love the models! I agree with Climax though, the mother's body looks strange. I would put her in a more peaceful position with the arrows easy to see. Almost as if she was out defending her nest and came back victorious but seriously wounded and died in the cave next to her baby. Can't wait to see how it runs out!

Adam

[JurajMolcak]

komsa, Gunilla, -BAM-, Climax, AdamHerbert - folks, thank you very much for fast feedback. Looks like I really need to remake those poses. But I know it is crucial :deal:
So, main problem probably is, that I wanted to show as much as is possible from my creatures. That is probably why I did pose mother with that complicated pose and why I did show lil´s face... Uff, I just need to pose them within this week because of my schedule :wip: Thanx again!

[soapy]

I know the feeling of making a great model and then losing half of it to posing. Or simply not being able to see all the great sides at once! hahah. I don't mind your poses myself as long as there would be something shown to indicate that she was dead and not just sleeping... maybe blood, tongue hanging out? Keep moving!

[soapy]

hmmmm, double post, sorry Oweron. But it won't let me delete I guess? Ok well now I feel like a dummy... So how is the weather over there?

[JurajMolcak]

Hey soapy, it is exactly like you said, ha ha ha... I am currently working on new poses and about emphasize her death... Yes I was thinking about tongue and blood... but it looks somhow pathetic to me. Will definitely try tongue and I will add some arrows but not directly in her body bud somwhere around her. I don´t want to add blood for sure... Thanx for feedback. Keep watching :thumbsup:

[makaron]

hallo Jurai... hope you nail the mothers pose, you got some good advise already about that, and I think the arrows gonna make a huge diffrence too...
so I just gonna sit here and drink tea and wait for the update... :bounce:

[JurajMolcak]

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Here is poses update. I am not sure about to make lil´one bit smaller because of he will look more close to mom´s size... Now he looks more far from her and close to viewer from my point of view :) Comments are very important :) Thank you.

[MT-Cup]

If the view on the right is the final view, then move the little one closer to the camera to create a greater sense of depth. Moma's pose is much better. Now she really looks like she's collapsed in a heap. It's looking more like that fantastic sketch you did. :thumbsup:

[komsa]

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Here is poses update. I am not sure about to make lil´one bit smaller because of he will look more close to mom´s size... Now he looks more far from her and close to viewer from my point of view :) Comments are very important :) Thank you.

Actually I think you don't have to observe true scale, you can keep him far from mom and scale him down! (artist always tricks spectators and it's always works on composition;) )

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[medunecer]

Hey Juray, great job! I like the second image: I feel more the "lonely" condition of the tiny dragon, and the idea of the dangerous journey of a son through the life is stronger. Maybe you can underline the landscape behind with more great and more foggy mountains. Anyway i really like this piece!

[BAMU]

I also like second [larger wiew], the people above me tell why ;)

[JurajMolcak]

Hello folks, Thank you for feedback.

Larger view is going to be the final one. I didn´t change it from begining... I only did close view for you in order to see poses better. There you should see "lil´one - sad and ready for journey" and "big´mom - death by attack of humans - you will see arrows on the ground later + her tongue hanging out"

komsa - i know what you mean. lil´one is already scaled down of real proportions. I might go more with that scaling down. Will see :thumbsup:

[melkao]

woocktanscti update!...but one suggestion...try to move a little bit the baby dragon to the right...becaus hi is covering too much the mom. And i vote for the larger and second comp!

[shakes]

it's a bit hard to tell withought a full render, but I think the only problem is, maybe baby is too big...a bit hard to tell the scale difference between it and mother-I'll look forward to the next update- this will be beautiful!

[JurajMolcak]

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Hello again,

I did some minor changes. Those are my favourites for final one. I sketched tongue, arrows and rain in order to bring you final mood lil´closer :) Hope you like it. As always, open for discussion. Thank you my supporters!

Good night.

[shakes]

I'd be tempted to try making the mum double size, and moving her back in the cave a bit to
fit her- that way you would see the size difference between them, and you'd see more nice details of mums body..just a suggestion!

[MT-Cup]

Pose 2 is I think the better of the two.. more dramatic. Shakes makes a good point. Mama could be a bit larger and still fit both the cave and help with the size/distance relationship.

[JurajMolcak]

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Hello,

Me fighting with poses again. A - mother is bigger and lil´one smaller.
B - previous poses ( might be I fancy them more, looks lighter and clearer to me and better fits my concept geometry ) Will be happy with your comments. Thank you.

[Gunilla]

I think you have chosen a difficult angle for this - by placing the mother so much right behind
him the depth will be tricky to show. Have you tried moving her a bit to the left? Maybe lying more with the side facing us? And maybe bring him a little bit further to the front?
But if I have to pick one of these, I agree - the right one reads better.

Keep on tweaking now, you're almost there :thumbsup:

[JurajMolcak]

Thanx Gunnie for your suggestion. By looking at my schedule for this challenge, I need to stop tweaking now. Lots of postcorrections needs to be done and lots of other works needs to be done till the end of May. That is life. I am probably going for pose A. But will see on monday next week - the day when will rendering journey begins :deal: After all rendering stages I will have something like 2 or 3 days for postproduction. So... Thanx again.

[Selina42]

Hey Oweron!

Interesting cos on paper i thought A would work better -but i have to agree with Gunilla's and your own feelngs on the subject -B does read better. However its beautiful whichever one you choose!

[shakes]

I think you have chosen a difficult angle for this - by placing the mother so much right behind
him the depth will be tricky to show. Have you tried moving her a bit to the left? Maybe lying more with the side facing us? And maybe bring him a little bit further to the front?


I agree with Gunilla on this-what if you only had mum showing from the waist upwards, lying on her side? with head poking out of cave? that way she could be even bigger, and you could move her backwards. good luck Oweron, it will be great- we have 2 whole weeks!

[MT-Cup]

I don't think I can add anything here. Everyone's said it.

[3DDave]

I think the young dragon is competing with the old dragon, especially since they overlap.
I would either seperate them more or push the old dragon back into the darkness of the cave.

Sometimes less is more.

[JurajMolcak]

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Hello folks,

This is another poll for poses - the final one :) I think that I found my favourite one, but will be very happy with yours, though. I did quick render just to read out from that screenshots. Hope you will like at least one of those :) Thank you.

[shakes]

wow, you've done a superb job! C and D I like the best- very hard to choose between them,
but I think C.. well done Oweron, the composition and colours look fantastic!

[makaron]

I vote for C... the colors are great :) gonna be even better with your rain later on I guess, then it´s really gonna be sad... :cry:

[centurionit]

I'm almost sure that the D is the best..I like it a lot, but You must put more shadows in the cave on the legs....But is great that one...:thumbsup:

[MT-Cup]

I was going to say D but after reviewing them some more, I think C is the better composition. It clearly looks like mama dragon is dead, not sleeping. It looks very final. Also, the size and distance relationship is much clearer. So C for me.

[Selina42]

I'm torn between C and D also. I prefer the mothers pose in D i think, but C probably reads better.

[oceanbluesky]

Okay since we're all in love with Lil'One and everyone seems to have a finger in your comp, Shakes may have given the best advice: "come on we have two weeks left" or something like that. --Show the image to people who have never seen anything having to do with your creation of the individual elements in this scene...not those of us who have followed every poly. They probably will not be able to tell the mother is dead, or, what Lil's problem is. That's not a harsh criticism because you've done all the work to make this image absolutely beautiful. Image C with the mom's legs up suggests she is possibly dead.....but this still is very far from clear...maybe her tounge needs to be rolling out or her eyes could be open and crossed or bloodshot -- who knows, you have a better imagination than me(!)...also, it is difficult to understand what's up with Lil...his tears could be more visible...and he could be much, much closer to the camera...the mother's wing completely, utterly obscures his features...it is hard to tell where he begins and where she ends...whose wings are whose and so on -- and besides, one of the most interesting unique characteristics of your work is the super cool styling of his scales, and his pastel shading, which cannot be appreciated when he is so far away (at this resolution).

Everyone is in love with Lil'One -- show him off, let us see his tears and feel his sighs, see amrs dangling...

Well, anyhow congratulations on having come this far...you have created an absolutely wonderful, moving pair of characters and charming set in which to place them. That may be why everyone is so involved in this comp -- we believe in it...we want to see more of Lil'One in the future! Especially the style with which you've shaded him. (And you've been very helpful and supportive to the rest of us....) Hope you find time to continue cooking with your own cool style these next two weeks. This is a favorite of so many!

[oceanbluesky]

What about scaling Lil by -1 and rotating him 90 degrees so the side of him we now see would be still visible but pointing in the opposite direction, thereby allowing us to more easily read a difference between his and his mom's shapes and moving him closer to camera. ?

[BAMU]

I like C also, there is a better balance between characters...

BAM

[DimitrisLiatsos]

C or D ...i like D better though for slight small details...:)