The Journey Begins Challenge (3D) Entry: Pfeiffer Gilles

[gpepper]

Oups, double post...

[Lemog]

The idea about the skull is very good, but of course, it was not very visible... maybe less roots and branches here... only suggered the shape around the skull with them... with for the skull a material more visible, which can also constrast with eyes...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145609301_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145609301_large.jpg)

Here is the master, in pose. All the leaves are not rendered...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145619711_medium.jpg (http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/master_pose2.jpg)

Here is another view. If you want to see it bigger, click the picture. 2000 X 2000 pixels.

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145626321_medium.jpg (http://gpepper.free.fr/tut/root/root_tutorial.wmv)

Hi everybody !
Here is a quick tutorial of how to do the roots !
Be gentle, My english is really bad ! Sometimes my accent looks like a german accent...

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Gilles, looking forward to seeing your tutorial -- thanks for posting...

[jammin]

very helpful tutorial -cool technique.

thanks

[gpepper]

Hey Gilles, looking forward to seeing your tutorial -- thanks for posting...

You welcome Eric !

very helpful tutorial -cool technique.

thanks

Thanks Ben, I'm glad you find it cool !

[Elendil_le_Grand]

Merci pr le tuto ...
A really good work ;)
Vivement la suite ...

[gpepper]

Merci pr le tuto ...
A really good work ;)
Vivement la suite ...

Bah de rien, en même temps, je n'ai pas grand chose à t'apprendre sur Maya !
Pour la suite, ça devrait pas mal avancer cette semaine ! La petite famille sera en vacances donc je serais tout seul à la maison pour pouvoir bosser !

You welcome Nico and thanks for your comment. Anyway I don't have so much things to teach to you with Maya !
About the next update, I think that some Huge update will come the next week. Woman and children will be on holliday and I will have the house for me and my computer !

[shakes]

Love those poses, he looks real nasty! terrific stuff, very unique character. thanks for the tut too..can't play on my mac, but will have a look on a work PC.

[flaeticia]

hey gilles !

I love the pose too and the render again :scream:
This little white render remind me, that mental ray on maya is really powerful when you know how to control the monster :)

Thanks for the tut !! really great ! when ive see roots, i dont know why, but id think that was a tuto on rigging :thumbsup: id said great :scream: buts thats not this type of tuto ;) but its cool too so enjoy everybody & thank you gilles !

[gpepper]

Love those poses, he looks real nasty! terrific stuff, very unique character. thanks for the tut too..can't play on my mac, but will have a look on a work PC.

Thanks John ! I really happy you like him !
Sorry about the WMV ! Sometimes I forget that some of us don't use any PC. Maybe I will convert it in *.mov.

hey gilles !

I love the pose too and the render again :scream:
This little white render remind me, that mental ray on maya is really powerful when you know how to control the monster :)

Thanks Laetiss !
Yeah you are right, MR could be cool sometimes ! But I still have some things to understand with this render engine !

Thanks for the tut !! really great ! when ive see roots, i dont know why, but id think that was a tuto on rigging :thumbsup: id said great :scream: buts thats not this type of tuto ;) but its cool too so enjoy everybody & thank you gilles !


Yeah, you are right, root could mean anything else ! I won't do any rigging tutorial for this character beacause this is a real nightmare !
See ya girlie !

[scootermaya]

I like the pose. Great impression of strength. Lovely render too! Great job Gilles :thumbsup:

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Gilles, finally got to see your tutorial -- thanks so much for posting! I guess so many people had tried to download it yesterday I was having trouble streaming it? Anyhow, really appreciate your sharing. I've been creating a lot of vines too using pretty much the same technique...I was really, really, really hoping there was some sort of quick MEL script which would place a curling spiral along the surface of an object.

A few weeks ago someone on Highend3D posted a script for distributing a spiral along the UV space of a NURBS cylinder but I've only found it marginally useful. One additional tweak which wasn't in your tutorial but which I'm sure you must be aware of is the 'Scale' option on the Extrude node itself...for quickly making the resultant surface collapse into a point on one end...might be occassionally useful? (But perhaps not affording as much artisitc opportunity as tweaking each CV by hand.) --Also have found quickly swiping the poly converted surfaces with Maya's scupt tool extremely useful for making the vines more organic...a broad brush stroke with pull and then push across various sections of the vines tends to make them look less CG. Likewise for placing a lattice around certain sections of the vines to pull them from or around the model base.

Finally, turning both the original base surface and previously made vines into a single live object by combining them into one surface temporarily has been extremely useful. (Select the vines you have already made...select the underlying base model...then use Polygons>Combine to create another surface which can then be used as a single 'Live' base upon which to place additional vines....) Saves a lot of time twisting a curve across previous extrudes...

Any other tips and tricks which you may have that weren't in your tutorial?? Can barely bring myself to spend time on this...it is sooooo labor intensive. Thinking of using the CV Pencil tool (though that may lay down too many CVs?) and also the paint geometry tool to place leaves and such across the vines and model...how do you place your leaves???

Thanks so much again! Wonderful work!

[Gunilla]

Excellent tutorial Gilles - I wish it could work the same way with MAX ... anyone knows how to do it there?
All the work you've put in your model really pays off, it looks great!

...and don't worry, your accent is very charming ;)

[sathe]

Gunilla: There is a Script for max called "Advanced Painter". It does pretty much the same thing in about a 10th of the time as well as things like painting grass and rocks onto objects which is very usefull however The only draw back is that it can get a bit messy. (You will soon see what i mean ) :)

http://www.scriptspot.com/scripts/web_upload/Herman Saksono/advpainter_1.5.1.zip (http://www.scriptspot.com/scripts/web_upload/Herman%20Saksono/advpainter_1.5.1.zip)

Use the spaghetti tool. Hope this helps.

[makaron]

that last pose is awsome :) he looks like a strong leader now...

and even I, the little 2D girl, find that tutorial exciting to see and hear :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Gunilla: There is a Script for max called "Advanced Painter". It does pretty much the same thing in about a 10th of the time as well as things like painting grass and rocks onto objects which is very usefull however The only draw back is that it can get a bit messy. (You will soon see what i mean ) :)

http://www.scriptspot.com/scripts/web_upload/Herman Saksono/advpainter_1.5.1.zip (http://www.scriptspot.com/scripts/web_upload/Herman%20Saksono/advpainter_1.5.1.zip)

Use the spaghetti tool. Hope this helps.

Great, thanks! I'll try it and see how it works :)

[gpepper]

I like the pose. Great impression of strength. Lovely render too! Great job Gilles :thumbsup:

Thanks Michel !
...

...how do you place your leaves???

Thanks so much again! Wonderful work!

I will think of what you said Eric maybe I will find some of those tips useful.
About the leaves I use 3Dsmax particle flow. This is an old technique I use for years, it's hard to find anything else in Maya that brings me such a cool and quick result. I think I will post some tut on it soon !
Thanks again for your comment !

Excellent tutorial Gilles - I wish it could work the same way with MAX ... anyone knows how to do it there?
All the work you've put in your model really pays off, it looks great!

...and don't worry, your accent is very charming ;)

Thnaks Gunnie !
You could do pretty much the same in 3Dsmax. with editable mesh or editable poly you have one option called "create shapefrom edges" when you are in edge selection. just select the flow you want to copy and it create a curve from these edges ! simple...
What ? You find my accent charming ? Are you kidding ?

Gunilla: There is a Script for max called "Advanced Painter". It does pretty much the same thing in about a 10th of the time as well as things like painting grass and rocks onto objects which is very usefull however The only draw back is that it can get a bit messy. (You will soon see what i mean ) :)

Hey cool ! This script looks cool ! I will use it ! Thanks Grant !

that last pose is awsome :) he looks like a strong leader now...

and even I, the little 2D girl, find that tutorial exciting to see and hear :thumbsup:

Thanks Mona ! I'm glad you like it ! ;)

[Gunilla]

Thnaks Gunnie !
You could do pretty much the same in 3Dsmax. with editable mesh or editable poly you have one option called "create shapefrom edges" when you are in edge selection. just select the flow you want to copy and it create a curve from these edges ! simple...
What ? You find my accent charming ? Are you kidding ?

Hmm - I haven't thought of trying that - I tried to do something like this for My Master&Servants entry ... and ended up to draw all the splines using 3dsnap- it was a real pain and the end result wasn't as good as this. I'll try it, thanks!

... and I never kid about compliments, I like it when you can hear where people are from and the french accent is really cute :)

[makaron]

I like it when you can hear where people are from and the french accent is really cute :)

agree.. very charming.
I thought it was just great to hear your comments along with the -how to do it- :bounce:

[gpepper]

... and I never kid about compliments, I like it when you can hear where people are from and the french accent is really cute :)

agree.. very charming.
I thought it was just great to hear your comments along with the -how to do it- :bounce:

Thanks Girls ! you caught my heart ! ;)

[Womball]

I'm looking forward to this roots tutorial! You characters looks amazing! Do you lay out your UV's by manually too?

[gpepper]

I'm looking forward to this roots tutorial! You characters looks amazing! Do you lay out your UV's by manually too?

No, for the first character, I use GUV tiles from Zbrush. And for the second some 3D texture in Maya.

[Womball]

Artisan brush in maya? GUV's don't cause seam issues? I'm just starting to learn zbrush, very nice program.

[gpepper]

Artisan brush in maya? GUV's don't cause seam issues? I'm just starting to learn zbrush, very nice program.

No just some kind of noise, fractal, placed with a 3Dplacement...
About the seams just check the fix seam in the texture option of tools in ZB. Usually I put it around 10 not to have seam in render in another 3D package.

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145807269_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145807269_large.jpg)

Here is the shader of the extra roots added to the feet and hands.
This is a MISSS shader with many maps and I put another shader connected with a blend color utilities. Each map is 1024 X 1024. The second shader is just some 3D textures of Maya...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145807443_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145807443_large.jpg)

Here is the shading network of the other shader used in the last entry. Just few 3D textures... It is applied to the overall roots of the character...

[Womball]

So using place 3d textures, you managed to create a procedural texture which looks like it was a manually done colour map!?! The only downside I could see to this approach is that it may render slower.

[gpepper]

So using place 3d textures, you managed to create a procedural texture which looks like it was a manually done colour map!?! The only downside I could see to this approach is that it may render slower.

These shaders are only on the root's Master. The other rootman have a bitmap done in Zbrush and applied to a lambert...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145822088_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145822088_large.jpg)

Here is a quick screenshot of the shading network of the rootman's shader. Nothing very hard to understand. A diffuse and a bump generated with Zbrush Zmapper plugin. This is a normal map used as a bump with the tangent normal space option we can use in the 2d bump node of Maya 7.0...

[Elendil_le_Grand]

Your shader is really very cool :)

[gpepper]

Your shader is really very cool :)

Which one ? This is not so difficult, I do not deserve it...

[Elendil_le_Grand]

The first one ;)
Ce n'est pas difficile mais je trouve intéressant ton utilisation des procédurales avec des textures classique oilà tout :)

[Climax]

SImple but well chossen textures! :arteest: of course you deserve the cheering! :applause:

[gpepper]

The first one ;)
Ce n'est pas difficile mais je trouve intéressant ton utilisation des procédurales avec des textures classique oilà tout :)

Ah ok, merci.

SImple but well chossen textures! :arteest: of course you deserve the cheering! :applause:

Thanks Omar ! :blush:

[varma]

Most excellent shader build and great texturing! Your color palettte is very pleasing to
the eye!
Only one little question; how do you get the screenshot from your shader network
with all notifications (inputs and outputs) showing?
Good luck with the final scene!
:buttrock:

[gpepper]

Most excellent shader build and great texturing! Your color palettte is very pleasing to
the eye!
Only one little question; how do you get the screenshot from your shader network
with all notifications (inputs and outputs) showing?
Good luck with the final scene!
:buttrock:

Thanks Mathias !
About the shading network, this is a huge Photoshop work ! ;)
I just select every node, one by one, do a screenshot of each and recompose them in photoshop...

[scootermaya]

J'ai rien compris, mais j'adore ! :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

J'ai rien compris, mais j'adore ! :thumbsup:

Bah qu'est-ce que tu n'as pas compris ?

[varma]

Quote:
Thanks Mathias !
About the shading network, this is a huge Photoshop work !
I just select every node, one by one, do a screenshot of each and recompose them in photoshop...
__________________

Thanks for the reply, I read through the manual for hours and couldn't find anything!
You must be a very patient person to take all those screen grabs and so on...
Anyways, I like your work and look forward to see the last render!
Peace!
:thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Thanks for the reply, I read through the manual for hours and couldn't find anything!
You must be a very patient person to take all those screen grabs and so on...
Anyways, I like your work and look forward to see the last render!
Peace!
:thumbsup:

ahah, sorry .
I'm not so patient, I just like sharing my tips. Without the name of the network that means nothing to everybody.

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145912370_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1145912370_large.jpg)

I'm looking for the right angle of view.
Tell me about it ...

Maybe one or three... Four, the horizon is to centered...

[makaron]

my vote goes to nr 3... :)

[shakes]

my eyes instantly went to no 3, Twiggy.

[Womgoose]

One more vote for 3 (although quite like 2 as well).

3 though yeah.

[Climax]

mmmm....Pfeifer, none of them would really show the great modeling and detail in characters, maybe try a closer view in a first plane maybe the camera in front of him pointing a bit up to show the main character more heroic and bigger and the others behind him...just an idea.
:curious::shrug::thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Mona, John, Lee, Thanks a lot, this confirm what I was thinking.

mmmm....Pfeifer, none of them would really show the great modeling and detail in characters, maybe try a closer view in a first plane maybe the camera in front of him pointing a bit up to show the main character more heroic and bigger and the others behind him...just an idea.
:curious::shrug::thumbsup:

You are right Omar, but In this scene there are more characters and it would be cool to see them too ! Don't forget that the image will be huge and that we will see the Leader enough, in my opinion...
I will see.

[thebest]

late this time :cry: did anyone took my place as a first fan :banghead:
anyway I`am back:wavey: u have very cool updates :beer: I vote for the third one
(thanks for the tut :scream: )

[gpepper]

late this time :cry: did anyone took my place as a first fan :banghead:
anyway I`am back:wavey: u have very cool updates :beer: I vote for the third one
(thanks for the tut :scream: )

No, don't worry Antone ! I was wondering where did you go !
No problems I hope ? Because things are not cool in Egypt these days...

[thebest]

No, don't worry Antone ! I was wondering where did you go !
oh thanks for worrying:thumbsup: I just was staying for a few days with my grandfather so that was keeping me away:bounce:


No problems I hope ? Because things are not cool in Egypt these days...
no problems dude don`t worry:scream: .....yeah there are problems here in Egypt these days :sad:

[Gunilla]

Am I late for the vote?
I like the third best, but number 2 would make more of your great character seen... I think you have to place more of them in there for us to give a good respons.
Great start for comp anyway! :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Am I late for the vote?
I like the third best, but number 2 would make more of your great character seen... I think you have to place more of them in there for us to give a good respons.
Great start for comp anyway! :thumbsup:

Thanks Gunnie Dear ! Yes I will put another Rootmen on this scene soon ( hard to say !) Whatever I choose the elements will fit to any view well because I will model things outer from the view's limits

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I am seeing as more possible something close to 2...with camera a bit closer and the root man more to the right...just a bit....just my 2 cents..:bounce:


:)

[gpepper]

I am seeing as more possible something close to 2...with camera a bit closer and the root man more to the right...just a bit....just my 2 cents..:bounce:


:)

Thanks Dimitris.
At this time, I'm doing a surprise, I hope it will be finished tomorrow ! ;)

[rattlesnake]

hello man...i saw your tutorial , very cool ! , i dont use maya, but man i want to use it after looking to your tutorial:thumbsup:

ok about your compo test, i think number 2 can work...dont put your great character too far from camera ...u have killer details and is no good to lose them :).

[gpepper]

Thanks Jorge !
Maya is a great software for sure but I think 3Dsmax or XSI or lightwave or any other 3D packages are cool too. The key is not the software but what we do with it !
And U make great things without using Maya, so, no reason to change...

[gpepper]

Ok, here is one of the reason why I didn't work on my entry yesterday:

I did my first sculpture ! This is excellent ! having the geometry in its hands !

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/big_pt.jpg (http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/big.jpg)

First try...

( Click on the picture to see it bigger )

[flaeticia]

pwa c'est laid
c'est toi :scream: ?

huhu treve de plaisanterie, je ne sais pas le faire alors je te dis bravo et continue !

apres tu vas me sortir que tu n'es pas un artiste :@

Oh georges :D

[Zapan]

AAAhhhh , YEAH !!
I'm ashamed to say that I never try to sculpt with my hands ... with my feets neither tho ... Looking real cool
Maxwell render ? :D

Hope to see more rootmen soon anyway ... Oh btw I'm backing up Gunie here , I think the comp 2 could be nicer ...

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

pwa c'est laid
c'est toi :scream: ?

huhu treve de plaisanterie, je ne sais pas le faire alors je te dis bravo et continue !

apres tu vas me sortir que tu n'es pas un artiste :@

Oh georges :D


Bah ouai c'est laid, c'est un monstre ! Yes it is ugly, this is a monster !
Thanks for comments girl and no, I'm not an artist...

AAAhhhh , YEAH !!
I'm ashamed to say that I never try to sculpt with my hands ... with my feets neither tho ... Looking real cool
Maxwell render ? :D

Hope to see more rootmen soon anyway ... Oh btw I'm backing up Gunie here , I think the comp 2 could be nicer ...

cheers ,

-Zapan

Thanks Steph, this was the first time for me ! Thieery pushed me to try and I have to say that I loved doing sculpture ! I think I'm going ts sculpt more now !
No that's not maxwell, only real light and my Minolta and photoshop !
I think you will see more about the rootman soon...

[Gunilla]

So, does this mean you're going to stop with computers and start with clay now? :)
Really nice sculpture, maybe you could scan it and import it into Maya for texturing? :D

[thebest]

cool work u really rock friend :thumbsup:
was it easy or hard? was it ur first try ever?

[ChewyPixels]

I like both numbers 2 & 3. Or...since you will be dealing with so many characters, perhaps you can play with the idea of a wider render. Think "letterbox" style. :)

[gpepper]

So, does this mean you're going to stop with computers and start with clay now? :)
Really nice sculpture, maybe you could scan it and import it into Maya for texturing? :D

No I don't think I will stop to create on a computer, there are so many things really cool taht you can't do with clay !But maybe it would become a new hobbie or a sort of 3D sketches for my creature in the future...

cool work u really rock friend :thumbsup:
was it easy or hard? was it ur first try ever?

Thanks Antone ! I was afraid not to be able to do something acceptable but I am pretty happy of the result. The only thing that I didn't like was at the moment which I decided to do the details, clay isn't cool to do that, I didn't manage to add cool detail like I was able to do in Zbrush ! I think I have to test Plastiline or Super sculpey which are cool materials to sculpt.
Yes this was my first try.

I like both numbers 2 & 3. Or...since you will be dealing with so many characters, perhaps you can play with the idea of a wider render. Think "letterbox" style. :)

Maybe you are right Jesus, but The resolution was told by Cgnetwork's base and I decided to follow this as much as I can. But maybe I will find another angle more cool. Let's see. Thanks.

[Womball]

The harder the clay the easier it is to details. Although its harder to sculpt initally. That's why Roma plastalina #3 is good clay for details. The softer the clay the easier it is to obscure details, but its really easy to create overall forms. Sculpey is very nice, although kind of expensive. Also you have to watch about surface thickness with it. Also are you using metal armatures? I find this an easier way of sculpting organics.

[thebest]

Thanks Antone ! I was afraid not to be able to do something acceptable but I am pretty happy of the result.

this is very acceptable dude don`t worry :scream:



The only thing that I didn't like was at the moment which I decided to do the details, clay isn't cool to do that, I didn't manage to add cool detail like I was able to do in Zbrush ! I think I have to test Plastiline or Super sculpey which are cool materials to sculpt.

waiting for that

[jddog]

Excellent work on your 'figure' ! Chapeau !
Also for image compo I would see your figure some closer to the camera to see all details of your figure. You did a so wonderful work it will be sad to see it in a 'corner' ...

:applause:

jdd

[Zapan]

Thieery pushed me to try and I have to say that I loved doing sculpture !

Ahaha , sacré Thierry , maybe he could convince you doing tattoos too :scream: ... Say hi and give a kiss to all the team there ... Faudras que je fasse un crochet par Gre , un des ces 4 matins... huhu ....

Really nice sculpture, maybe you could scan it and import it into Maya for texturing?
ahahahah I think Gunie is as much silly as me ... or maybe that's the other way around , at least I guess we are both cg addicted :scream:

Can't wait for the rootmen !!

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146494352_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146494352_large.jpg)

Here is the start of the tree which would be behind the Leader, in the border of the cliff...
Zbrush modeling with Zsphere for sure ! Pretty much quick technic !

[gpepper]

The harder the clay the easier it is to details. Although its harder to sculpt initally. That's why Roma plastalina #3 is good clay for details. The softer the clay the easier it is to obscure details, but its really easy to create overall forms. Sculpey is very nice, although kind of expensive. Also you have to watch about surface thickness with it. Also are you using metal armatures? I find this an easier way of sculpting organics.

Thanks Nathan ! One of my friend is used to sculpt and he model with super sculpey. Yes in this case there are some armatures...

this is very acceptable dude don`t worry :scream:

Thanks Antone, you are nice ! ;)

waiting for that

I think you will have to wait because I have to finish this challenge first !

Excellent work on your 'figure' ! Chapeau !
Also for image compo I would see your figure some closer to the camera to see all details of your figure. You did a so wonderful work it will be sad to see it in a 'corner' ...

:applause:

jdd

Thanks Julien, Nice to see U there ! I have to work on this compo, I'm looking for a new view. Some news soon...

Ahaha , sacré Thierry , maybe he could convince you doing tattoos too :scream: ... Say hi and give a kiss to all the team there ... Faudras que je fasse un crochet par Gre , un des ces 4 matins... huhu ....

Tatoos ? maybe on a pork !
Giving a kiss to Thierry, are you kidding ? If you want to go and see us in school, no problem, you are welcomed !

ahahahah I think Gunie is as much silly as me ... or maybe that's the other way around , at least I guess we are both cg addicted :scream:
Can't wait for the rootmen !!
cheers ,

-Zapan

Ahahah, you are right, you are both silly ! :argh:
I'm kidding !
I'm CG addicted too ! no worry about this !

[Zapan]

YAY !!

No doubts that ZB is the perfect tool to create a tree ! ! looking great already !! And I do think it's pretty fast ... way much than mine ...

Keep rockin' Gillou !

Giving a kiss to Thierry, are you kidding ?
ahahahaha , aaahhh le Titi il est beau gosse nan ? ... je suis sur qu'il les fait tomber les coquines d'Aries :scream: ... ahahaha , ok enough spams here from me for today !

cheers ,

-Steph

[gpepper]

YAY !!

No doubts that ZB is the perfect tool to create a tree ! ! looking great already !! And I do think it's pretty fast ... way much than mine ...

Yes, at this moment, there is half an hour of work on it...

ahahahaha , aaahhh le Titi il est beau gosse nan ? ... je suis sur qu'il les fait tomber les coquines d'Aries :scream: ... ahahaha , ok enough spams here from me for today !

Ahah, I don't know if all the girls are crazy of him, but guys like to disturb him !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146496396_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146496396_large.jpg)

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[Gunilla]

ahahahah I think Gunie is as much silly as me ..

I heard that!

Ahahah, you are right, you are both silly !

I heard that too! :D

Nice start for the tree - and yes, ZSpheres must be the perfect tool for that, looking real good :)

[gpepper]

Nice start for the tree - and yes, ZSpheres must be the perfect tool for that, looking real good :)

Thanks Gunnie my dear, You are right, Zsphere is the perfect tool for that !

[Lemog]

Nothing to crit about the started shape of tree... but I was very impressed by your modeling, mmmh... your sculpture... for a first one, you can be proud... already well feeled... bravo mec... what do you think about this new fingers pleasure... very sensual to give life with our hands, not ? I remember that... great moments... where hands and mind are only one to create... I hope you will continue in this new way... encore bravo gars :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Nothing to crit about the started shape of tree... but I was very impressed by your modeling, mmmh... your sculpture... for a first one, you can be proud... already well feeled... bravo mec... what do you think about this new fingers pleasure... very sensual to give life with our hands, not ? I remember that... great moments... where hands and mind are only one to create... I hope you will continue in this new way... encore bravo gars :thumbsup:

Thanks Laurent !
You are right, the feeling of sculpting is really pleasant ! I think I will follow the way of sculpt but with another material because clay is not so cool to add tiny details. A friend of mine use super sculpey and some of his works are cool !
But 3D is my first love and for the moment I have to finish something before sculpt again !

[flaeticia]

Thanks Laurent !
You are right, the feeling of sculpting is really pleasant ! I think I will follow the way of sculpt but with another material because clay is not so cool to add tiny details. A friend of mine use super sculpey and some of his works are cool !
But 3D is my first love and for the moment I have to finish something before sculpt again !

Yes i think ure right too georges :twisted:
u have to finished this challenge and after u can focus on the sculpting techniques !
Im sure that we could hope to another great tutorial by "l'artiste georges" on those techniques :scream:

:thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Yes i think ure right too georges :twisted:
u have to finished this challenge and after u can focus on the sculpting techniques !
Im sure that we could hope to another great tutorial by "l'artiste georges" on those techniques :scream:

:thumbsup:


I'm not Georges ! Blondie ! :argh:

[flaeticia]

I'm not Georges ! Blondie ! :argh:

Oups :D

lapsus (suce ?) révélateur :bounce::bounce: (revealing lapse):scream::applause:

[thebest]

nice beginning for the tree keep going :thumbsup:


I think you will have to wait because I have to finish this challenge first !

yeah u are right take ur time :wise:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146588827_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146588827_large.jpg)

and the final step before converting it in adaptive skin and then deform it...

[gpepper]

Oups :D

lapsus (suce ?) révélateur :bounce::bounce: (revealing lapse):scream::applause:

Bad joke Blondie, promises again...

nice beginning for the tree keep going :thumbsup:


yeah u are right take ur time :wise:

Thanks Antone ! Don't worry, 3D first !

[shakes]

love the sculpture! that's so dedicated, mocking up some clay!! looks great too, and the Tree is awesome..for such a tedious job, you make it look fun!

[Lemog]

Oups :D

lapsus (suce ?) révélateur :bounce::bounce: (revealing lapse):scream::applause:
et ben... si je m'attendais à entendre ça sortir de ta bouche... :eek:

[flaeticia]

et ben... si je m'attendais à entendre ça sortir de ta bouche... :eek:

ahahah non mais c'est georges qui m'y pousse :scream:

[gpepper]

et ben... si je m'attendais à entendre ça sortir de ta bouche... :eek:

ahah, si tu savais...



ahahah non mais c'est georges qui m'y pousse :scream:


Trop facile ! j'ai rien dit moi !

[flaeticia]

ahah, si tu savais...

mais je passe pour quoi moi la ? :wip: ca va mal se passer :bowdown: jvé appeler steph :arteest::beer:

Trop facile ! j'ai rien dit moi !

oué oué genre :drool::wavey:

[gpepper]

mais je passe pour quoi moi la ? :wip: ca va mal se passer :bowdown: jvé appeler steph :arteest::beer:

ça y est, tu vas dire que je te fais une réputation ? tu t'es grillée seule chérie ! :p


oué oué genre :drool::wavey:


Bah oui, tu m'attaques gratuitement ! C'est quoi ? la réflexion "blonde echevelée le matin" qui ne t'as pas plu ?
Je me répends en excuse Laeticia... :bowdown:

love the sculpture! that's so dedicated, mocking up some clay!! looks great too, and the Tree is awesome..for such a tedious job, you make it look fun!

Thanks John, excuse me not to answer earlier, I'm to busy by "the blonde" and what she say !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146662987_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146662987_large.jpg)

Here is a render from Zbrush with a clay shader. I started modeling the tree and adding details to it...
Next step, tiny details and texture...

[Zapan]

Ahahahahaha ... "Va , je ne te hais point ..." :scream: :scream: :scream: ...

mais je passe pour quoi moi la ? ca va mal se passer , jvé appeler steph

Héla ... laisse moi trankil , ... zé rien a voir avec vos scenes de ménage moi ... :curious: :scream:


Looking Great Gilles ! That clay render works prefectly to me , reminds me the Sleepy Hollow tree ... tortured tree ... Just one thought tho , is this a ZB render depth of field ? I'm totally ashamed to say that I never succeed make a correct one with maya , I've always had to add it with Photoshop :blush: ...
Anyway can't wait for more ! :bounce:

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

is this a ZB render depth of field ? I'm totally ashamed to say that I never succeed make a correct one with maya , I've always had to add it with Photoshop :blush: ...

This is not completly a Zbrush depth of field, I grab the zdepth in ZB with "grabdoc" and then I compose it with "flou de l'objectif" filter in Photoshop...
I didn't test Maya's Dof too...

[Lemog]

Really superb tree Gilles... and good luck with your "scene de ménage"... finished in the clay too ? huhuhu :thumbsup: :scream:

[gpepper]

Thanks Laurent. About homefight, I don't know, let's see what Blondie will answer...

[gpepper]

Ok here is for those who want to know how to do DOF effect with Zbrush and photoshop.

First step, do the render of your scene in Zbrush and export as an PSD and call it "doc":

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/export.jpg

Then go to alpha option and select "grabdoc":

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/grabdoc.jpg

This will grab the zdepth of your scene...

Then you have to export it as a PSD and call it "alpha_doc":

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/export2.jpg

Then open Photoshop and open both documents, alpha_doc and doc...
In the doc file, go to channels and create a new channel, an alpha:

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/create_alpha.jpg

Duplicate the all document of "alpha_doc":

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/duplicate_doc.jpg

In the alpha that you have created in the "doc":

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/duplicate_doc2.jpg

Then go to filter and blur and select "flou de l'objectif" (Excuse me if I don't know the word in english !):

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/flou.jpg

Then select alpha1 in "source". Tweak with "focal distance", radius, etc... Find what you want...

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/flou2.jpg

then you will have something like that:

http://gpepper.free.fr/cgtalk/tut/final.jpg

Ok, I think you can do this with any software which can bring you Zdepth...
Have fun ! I hope this tutorial will be helpful...

[Lemog]

Of course that can be very helpfull Gilles... I just need to change my old version of Photoshop... I don't have this "flou de l'objectif" :scream: hahahaha...

Lemog : old computer + old photoshop + old maya... hahaha... :twisted: :banghead: the only thing young it's me :beer:

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Gilles, nice stylized tree -- like this thread very much, look forward to more, good luck!

[thebest]

cool updates dude :thumbsup: keep going
and thanks for the tut it was great

[rattlesnake]

hello friend...that tree is looking very cool :thumbsup:, and thanx a lot for your little tutorial..very helpful thing..:applause:

[flaeticia]

Of course that can be very helpfull Gilles... I just need to change my old version of Photoshop... I don't have this "flou de l'objectif" hahahaha...

Lemog : old computer + old photoshop + old maya... hahaha... the only thing young it's me

R u sure :D :D

;)
plaisanterie ;)

tout le monde sait que tu es plus jeune que moi la preuve en photo http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7076/lol26ij.jpg

--

joke ;)

everybody knows that ure more young than me --> the evidence with this photo ^

:thumbsup:

[flaeticia]

Thanks Laurent. About homefight, I don't know, let's see what Blondie will answer...

ma vengeance sera terrible :D


my revenge will be terrible :D
ahahahahaah :twisted::twisted:

[gpepper]

Of course that can be very helpfull Gilles... I just need to change my old version of Photoshop... I don't have this "flou de l'objectif" :scream: hahahaha...

Lemog : old computer + old photoshop + old maya... hahaha... :twisted: :banghead: the only thing young it's me

"Flou de l'objectif"="focal blur" ?

Which version of photoshop do you have ?

Hey Gilles, nice stylized tree -- like this thread very much, look forward to more, good luck!

Thanks Eric ! Stay tunes, maybe some update today !

cool updates dude :thumbsup: keep going
and thanks for the tut it was great

Thanks Antone !

hello friend...that tree is looking very cool :thumbsup:, and thanx a lot for your little tutorial..very helpful thing..

Thanks Jorge ! I think I would have time today to work on the tree more...



R u sure, plaisanterie...
tout le monde sait que tu es plus jeune que moi la preuve en photo
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7076/lol26ij.jpg

--
joke
everybody knows that ure more young than me --> the evidence with this photo ^



Laurent is younger than all of us !



ma vengeance sera terrible :D

my revenge will be terrible :D
ahahahahaah


Des promesses, toujours des promesses...

Promises again...

[SONIC-X]

Cool looking tree dude.Love the ZBrush thing every one is doing.

[gpepper]

Thanks Corrie !
Nice to see you there ! ;)

[Tremoside]

Nicee tree Gilles :thumbsup: Just hope your final will be large enough to show all your character's details. All these are amazing. Maybe branchez of this tree are bit small, as i see trunk's size, but depends on what kind of plans you have with this one. but now :buttrock: time :)

[coochaki]

hey man !

nice modeling .:thumbsup:

looking for more.... ..

[gpepper]

Nicee tree Gilles :thumbsup: Just hope your final will be large enough to show all your character's details. All these are amazing. Maybe branchez of this tree are bit small, as i see trunk's size, but depends on what kind of plans you have with this one. but now :buttrock: time :)

Thanks Mark ! About the tree, I don't know what to think... I did some test from Zbrush to maya, but I didn't rescpect all the pipeline to have a cool render I will have to work on it more...

hey man !

nice modeling .:thumbsup:

looking for more.... ..

Thanks Mohammad ! ;)

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146773371_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146773371_large.jpg)

Here is a quick render in Zbrush of my tree's texturing. Not so good... Still some things to tweak...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146776189_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1146776189_large.jpg)

Here is a quick test of rendering the tree in Maya after exporting Zbrush's geometries and texture. This tree is then composed in photoshop with two differents renders and some adjustments layers.

[thebest]

wohoo I`am the first to reply
cool tree dude :thumbsup: keep going :bounce:

[Gunilla]

Really nice tree texturing, again you made the good use of ZB :thumbsup:
... and what's this Georgio thing? your new nick? ;)

[gpepper]

wohoo I`am the first to reply
cool tree dude :thumbsup: keep going :bounce:

Thanks Antone !

Really nice tree texturing, again you made the good use of ZB :thumbsup:
... and what's this Georgio thing? your new nick? ;)

Thanks Gunnie !
Georgio ? This is a nick name Laeticia gave to me. In fact, she sent a news to some french CG site called 3DVF. She said that I have done some tutorial about root creation in Maya.
But they didn't write Gilles Pfeiffer but Georges Pfeiffer... That come from this mistake...

[Gunilla]

But they didn't write Gilles Pfeiffer but Georges Pfeiffer... That come from this mistake...

Ahh, annoying - I wont remind you of that stupid mistake then ,,, good thing they got the last name right though :)

[gpepper]

I wont remind you of that stupid mistake then

Yeah, please, I'm near to suicide myself... :argh:

Agood thing they got the last name right though

Mouahahah ! You are right, they could have been wrong with this too ! So hard to write !
But I wrote to them an email to let them correct that because Georges is one of my uncles and he never have done any 3D...

[flaeticia]

Yeah, please, I'm near to suicide myself... :argh:



Mouahahah ! You are right, they could have been wrong with this too ! So hard to write !
But I wrote to them an email to let them correct that because Georges is one of my uncles and he never have done any 3D...

waouu :D gillou qui drague :love: riprisente :D

in fact he doesnt say entirely the truth :p
he doesnt like georgio because that points out to the name of an actor.... an actor ... how to say :D who turns particular films :D

[Zapan]

I wont remind you of that stupid mistake then

Sure , we don't need that , we got lot of memories to tease you with ... :twisted: ahaha ...

Awesome looking tree GILLES ... you mastering roots !! Magical with the lighting !

can't wait for more !

cheers ,

-Zapan

[oceanbluesky]

Exceptional dynamic tree -- has been a real pleasure watching them evolve. Really like the way you have posed them as though they have two legs and two arms, but, in different odd enough form and action to be interesting and new. Looking forward to seeing your entire comp! Good luck!

[Gunilla]

in fact he doesnt say entirely the truth :p
he doesnt like georgio because that points out to the name of an actor.... an actor ... how to say :D who turns particular films :D

Oh dear, I get the picture :eek:
But maybe that would be something flattering, non? :D

[gpepper]

in fact he doesnt say entirely the truth :p
he doesnt like georgio because that points out to the name of an actor.... an actor ... how to say :D who turns particular films :D

Ok, Laetiss you can say that !
Georgio Pfeiffer seems to me that it looks like a Porn Star name...

Sure , we don't need that , we got lot of memories to tease you with ... :twisted: ahaha ...

Ok, vas-y, balance, on va rire ! :p

Awesome looking tree GILLES ... you mastering roots !! Magical with the lighting !

can't wait for more !

Thanks, I said, I was gardener...

Exceptional dynamic tree -- has been a real pleasure watching them evolve. Really like the way you have posed them as though they have two legs and two arms, but, in different odd enough form and action to be interesting and new. Looking forward to seeing your entire comp! Good luck!

Thanks Eric !
About the pose, I didn't think of that, yeah it looks like a biped !

Oh dear, I get the picture :eek:
But maybe that would be something flattering, non? :D

Flattering ? I should interprate it like that ?

[coochaki]

nice update!
cool shader & cool rendering in maya too!
keep going---=>... .. .

[gpepper]

nice update!
cool shader & cool rendering in maya too!
keep going---=>... .. .

Thanks Mohammad !
Antone mode on ?

[flaeticia]

But I wrote to them an email to let them correct that
...

trop pas :beer:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9494/gilles3ac.jpg

***

Georgio Pfaïpffer artist has just put on line a new tutorial on the creation of a depth of field with Zbrush !

****

oO Georgio :bowdown:;)

// jte jure ça date d'hier matin apres que tu ai écris, j'attend de voir ce qu'elle va répondre blondie :D \\

;)

[gpepper]

trop pas :beer:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9494/gilles3ac.jpg

***

Georgio Pfaïpffer artist has just put on line a new tutorial on the creation of a depth of field with Zbrush !

****

oO Georgio :bowdown:;)

// jte jure ça date d'hier matin apres que tu ai écris, j'attend de voir ce qu'elle va répondre blondie :D \\

;)


ahahahah, oh my God, you kill me with that ! I can't stop laughing !
Be careful girl, don't play with the names ! I remember you that your name is the same than a french singer who is blond and silly ans who come from a tv program not so intellectual...

[Lemog]

Tutorials of Georgio comes often with the best quality... I must agree... Mister Georgio P.


:scream: moahahahahahah...

[gpepper]

Tutorials of Georgio comes often with the best quality... I must agree... Mister Georgio P.


:scream: moahahahahahah...

Mouahahahahahah !
Thanks Laurent but my name is Gilles or Gillio or Gillou if you want...

[shakes]

great work on the tree, very nice textures and lighting. thanks for showing all the WIP detail

[soapy]

Wow, crazy set of models. These guys are really unique and beautifully executed. I can't wait to see how it all hangs together in the final. Cheers, good luck. Go Man Go!

[gpepper]

great work on the tree, very nice textures and lighting. thanks for showing all the WIP detail

Thanks John ! I'm glad you like my wip ! ;)

Wow, crazy set of models. These guys are really unique and beautifully executed. I can't wait to see how it all hangs together in the final. Cheers, good luck. Go Man Go!

Thanks James ! I can't wait to find how to put them in a scene too ! Because I lost confidence in me...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147102188_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147102188_large.jpg)

Here is the layout which is my test of camera view. What do U think about ?
Maybe I should put the another characters...
They will stand below the leader...

I have preferences for number 1 and much for 6...

[azazel]

I'd go for more horizontal (panoramic) picture format.

[gpepper]

I'd go for more horizontal (panoramic) picture format.

Maybe you are right, I will check that...

[Gunilla]

I agree with azazel... a panoramic view would be cool. So, my vote for number 1 but with more space on the left side :thumbsup:
Also number 3 with more space above is an option.

... did that help? :)

[glenn23]

Another vote for one, but a panorama is definitely worth a test. I think 6 loses the pose of the leader too much. Getting anxious to see this come together!

[gpepper]

I agree with azazel... a panoramic view would be cool. So, my vote for number 1 but with more space on the left side :thumbsup:
Also number 3 with more space above is an option.

... did that help? :)

Ok, I will check that, Thanks Gunnie ! ;)

Another vote for one, but a panorama is definitely worth a test. I think 6 loses the pose of the leader too much. Getting anxious to see this come together!

You are right Glenn, I think 6 could be great if the Leader would be posed differently. I will do another poses...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147105326_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147105326_large.jpg)

Here is the second Layout. I did a symmetry of the pictures because I think that having different point of view gives more to the picture. I have to say that the image coming from the right do it better. What do you think ?
Maybe 1 or 2 ?

[Gunilla]

I definitely like the angle for 1 and 3 best. I shows the character well and gives a sense of scale to the scene. I think you could go with either one of those or maybe something in between :thumbsup:
Where will the other characters be?

[gpepper]

I definitely like the angle for 1 and 3 best

I have a przeference for two because the other characters should be around the leader watching in the same direction. But one is cool too.

Where will the other characters be?

Answer is contained in answer one... :argh: :p ;)

[thebest]

oh I missed an update :sad:
anyway I don`t know why but I think I like 5B

[Zapan]

Hiya Gilles !

I too think comp 1 and 3 works better , the panoramic side view seems to tell a story , which fits pretty well with the subject ... the flipped versions could be great too , in fact if he's pointing to the left , it could maybe negative ... but it's really personnal taste , and also a minor suggestion ...

Can't wait for the filled image by roots !

cheers

-Zapan

[Captain Bigleux]

i like the 2 and the 6, with the others it'll be great, for negative aspect of pointing to the left i think it's good because it will certainely be their last fight
keep it up :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

oh I missed an update :sad:
anyway I don`t know why but I think I like 5B

Thanks Antone but about the 5 and 5bis the problem is that the leader is seen from his back and I don't think it is good for the comp.

Hiya Gilles !

I too think comp 1 and 3 works better , the panoramic side view seems to tell a story , which fits pretty well with the subject ... the flipped versions could be great too , in fact if he's pointing to the left , it could maybe negative ... but it's really personnal taste , and also a minor suggestion ...

Can't wait for the filled image by roots !

cheers

-Zapan

Something between 1 and 3 should be cool. Thanks for your opinion Steph !

i like the 2 and the 6, with the others it'll be great, for negative aspect of pointing to the left i think it's good because it will certainely be their last fight
keep it up :thumbsup:

Good opinion Maxence... I will check at the final comp if I turn it to opposite way...

[thebest]

Thanks Antone but about the 5 and 5bis the problem is that the leader is seen from his back and I don't think it is good for the comp.

ok boss go for the best cam in ur mind I`am sure that u will choose the best one :scream:

[gpepper]

Thanks Antone ! :thumbsup:

[Climax]

I think they are all good, Maybe you should post an image with all the characters in it, that will help you decide the best camera shot, and also the best ilumination and mood of the scene :thumbsup::bounce: hurry up my friend!

[gpepper]

I think they are all good, Maybe you should post an image with all the characters in it, that will help you decide the best camera shot, and also the best ilumination and mood of the scene :thumbsup::bounce: hurry up my friend!

Thanks Omar for your comment. I think I could be able to finish, if I hurry myself ! I will model the ground and then render it...
Update soon !

[shakes]

1 or 3, but I also like 3B these give the characters good prominence, I think

[DaddyMack]

Heyaa G! with the base elements you've shown I'd say 3bis easy, it reads from left to right, top to bottom the most clear here;)

Good luck with the home stretch mate:thumbsup:

[makaron]

Heyaa G! with the base elements you've shown I'd say 3bis easy, it reads from left to right, top to bottom the most clear here;)

Good luck with the home stretch mate:thumbsup:

I agree, 3bis... :bounce: I think that the Rootmans army gonna look great "under" him standing there pointing out the direction of the journey...

[Lemog]

Between 1 and 3... to far in the #1, not enough idea of space in the #3... between certainly good :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147200166_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147200166_large.jpg)

Here is a screenshot of the beginning of the modeling in Zbrush.
The base Ciff's geometry is 210 polygones and the final mesh in Zbrush is about to 8 millions of polygons...

Thanks John, Mona, Robert and Laurent for your comments ! I think I will be near 1 and 3...

[Zapan]

Looking real great !!

The Zb work always so impressive , the level of detaills is totally incredible ... I really should take a look into this soft one of these days ...

Anyway , looking forward to your next steps ! Go Gillou !!

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

Looking real great !!

The Zb work always so impressive , the level of detaills is totally incredible ... I really should take a look into this soft one of these days ...

Anyway , looking forward to your next steps ! Go Gillou !!

cheers ,

-Zapan

Thanks Steph, next step will arrive soon... :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147202361_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147202361_large.jpg)

Here is the first step of texturing in Zbrush...
More soon...

For the moment the bump looks like a "cellular wall". Tweak is on the way...

[authentic]

wow. excellent texturing.

[gpepper]

Thanks Vincent ! ;)

[rattlesnake]

SImply amazing cliff! very impressive details on it man! did u used a bump map into it? wich size? very very cool :bounce::buttrock:

[shakes]

nice texturing..this is getting exciting seeing the scene start to appear!

[thebest]

cool updates can`t wait to see more :thumbsup: keep going

[gpepper]

SImply amazing cliff! very impressive details on it man! did u used a bump map into it? wich size? very very cool :bounce::buttrock:

For the moment, this is just a Zbrush render. I didn't test it in Maya, maybe today...

nice texturing..this is getting exciting seeing the scene start to appear!

Thanks John ! ;)

cool updates can`t wait to see more :thumbsup: keep going

Thanks Antone, Update soon !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147343586_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147343586_large.jpg)

Here is a quick render of the ground in Maya.
Need some grass now...
Zdepth in Photoshop...

[Lemog]

The effect looks original... don't know why... but for sure interesting... certainly well done for the good integration with Trees & Roots family... :)

[thebest]

wow awesome work dude :eek: u really rock can`t wait for more :thumbsup: keep going

[gpepper]

The effect looks original... don't know why... but for sure interesting... certainly well done for the good integration with Trees & Roots family... :)

Thanks Laurent but this is just there to hide bad things ! mouahaah !
Le rendu est tellement moche que je préfère cacher !

wow awesome work dude :eek: u really rock can`t wait for more :thumbsup: keep going

Thanks Antone !

[rattlesnake]

i like the test friend. looking very nice already:wise:

[gpepper]

i like the test friend. looking very nice already:wise:

Thanks Jorge !
You were the 666 th post on my thread...

[azazel]

The dof makes it look tiny... besides that, some actual grass, maybe hair or something, would be a nice touch. Even adding some just at the 'skyline' would be probably enough.

[gpepper]

The dof makes it look tiny... besides that, some actual grass, maybe hair or something, would be a nice touch. Even adding some just at the 'skyline' would be probably enough.

You are right, it seems to be a little part of the ground. I planed to put some grass, yes. I am doing this at this time.
Thanks for comment Dude ! ;)

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147516456_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147516456_large.jpg)

Here is a quick test of grass, then composed in photoshop...
Have to tweak some things again...

[makaron]

that nice green grass gonna be a really good contraste to the evil Rootman, me like alot... :)

[shakes]

more more more! go pepper go!

(two GP's for support..how can you go wrong?!)

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147530346_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147530346_large.jpg)

I start to place the characters. The Leader is in final pose.
The other Rootmen will be placed all around. If I can put 15 rootmen, it would be cool. After that any Rootmen should be reshaped to have differences...

[beelow]

Nice texturing, maybe add some sky to it that should help it!:thumbsup:

Haven't been here on the 3d side as much sorry bout that Pfeiffer.

[gpepper]

that nice green grass gonna be a really good contraste to the evil Rootman, me like alot... :)

Thanks Mona, I hope this will do it a lot in the final !

more more more! go pepper go!

(two GP's for support..how can you go wrong?!)

Thanks John !
I don't know if I could go wrong, but I go !

Nice texturing, maybe add some sky to it that should help it!:thumbsup:

Haven't been here on the 3d side as much sorry bout that Pfeiffer.

Thanks Bryce ! The sky arrive soon ! It will be added in compositing. I'm so sorry too, I don't go often in 2D section but I saw that you are doing great things on your entry !
See ya !

[Gunilla]

Very nice updates - the grass looks really soft, it will look great in the scene. I agree with azazel about it looking tiny though - maybe you should skip the DoF?
And here comes the rootmen too - great! :bounce:

[ilusiondigital]

Hey Gilles, this is getting better and better, incredibble atmosphere and great characters, i love the roots =))))

But show us more, we are waiting the next step

Hug

[thebest]

cool updates can`t wait for more :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Yeah...be carefull my friend with that DOF...maybe too strong?...maybe u should minimize that effect...Compo goes great :)

[gpepper]

Very nice updates - the grass looks really soft, it will look great in the scene. I agree with azazel about it looking tiny though - maybe you should skip the DoF?
And here comes the rootmen too - great! :bounce:

Thanks Gunnie-dear ! ;)
Yeah I think the dof is a bit strong. But I don't think I will use it in the final comp... The rootmen are coming, yes.

Hey Gilles, this is getting better and better, incredibble atmosphere and great characters, i love the roots =))))

But show us more, we are waiting the next step

Hug

Thanks Victor !
I'm placing the roots. More to come, maybe tomorrow...

cool updates can`t wait for more :thumbsup:

Thanks Antone"keep going"friend !

Yeah...be carefull my friend with that DOF...maybe too strong?...maybe u should minimize that effect...Compo goes great :)

Yeah I think I receive the message ! :argh:
I promise everyone, I will put some tiny dof ! just a little to give some strange atmospheric effect...

[Zapan]

Hi there Gillou :bounce:

Hey , why not puttin' a smaller dof ? ... isn't a whole great new idea ? :D

Grass is looking great but maybe the scene is looking a bit small with that size of grass ... kind of "maquette" don't you thing ? ... but maybe it's due to the strong shadows , and maybe it won't disturb me with the characters in the scene ... so I will wait and see ...

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

Hi there Gillou :bounce:

Hey , why not puttin' a smaller dof ? ... isn't a whole great new idea ? :D

Grass is looking great but maybe the scene is looking a bit small with that size of grass ... kind of "maquette" don't you thing ? ... but maybe it's due to the strong shadows , and maybe it won't disturb me with the characters in the scene ... so I will wait and see ...

cheers ,

-Zapan

Yeah you are right even if I find interesting having this effect of maquette.

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147710483_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147710483_large.jpg)

Here are few characters that I start to put on the scene...
More to come.

[KOryH]

very cool.no more words than that.
Keep it up!

[shakes]

really looking forward to seeing these all together!

[Climax]

:bounce::bounce:Go my friend!:bounce::bounce:

[Lemog]

I'm very impatient to see all these guys rendered in the scene... that will be a great piece so far :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

very cool.no more words than that.
Keep it up!

Thanks Kory ! ;)

really looking forward to seeing these all together!

Thanks John ! All together ? I have to say that in fact they will be not rendered all together !

:bounce::bounce:Go my friend!:bounce::bounce:


Thanks Omar. :wip:

I'm very impatient to see all these guys rendered in the scene... that will be a great piece so far :thumbsup:

A great piece ? I'm not so sure ! Too many things have been done in a hurry, I think that I would have done this better if I had more time. But doing things in hurry is a part of our job, so I have to compose with that !
Thanks Laurent.

Anyway guys and girls, I'm adding some tiny elements in the scene then I will reshape and retexture every rootman not to let them with the same aspect. I think in this part of the job I would like to thank Zbrush which help me to do it fast !
More to come in the day I hope !
SEE YA !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147885668_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147885668_large.jpg)

Here is the first rootman with its changes...
Texture is going to be changed too...

[Womball]

Looking good! You may want to push the left arm (closest to camera) forward a bit. I think that will read as more dynamic.

[thebest]

cool updates dude:thumbsup: u rock :scream: yeah believe me u do :buttrock:

[Vedic-kings]

You have come a long ways with your characters!

Looking sweet!

[gpepper]

Looking good! You may want to push the left arm (closest to camera) forward a bit. I think that will read as more dynamic.

Thanks Nathan.

cool updates dude:thumbsup: u rock :scream: yeah believe me u do :buttrock:

Thanks Antone, These words make me feel happy ! ;)

You have come a long ways with your characters!

Looking sweet!

Thanks Josh, I'm glad you like them !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147977968_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1147977968_large.jpg)

Here is the second Rootman... Blur me a lot !

[thebest]

cool updates dude yeah u made a great job keep going

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148030052_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148030052_large.jpg)

Here is the third rootman...

[Zapan]

Hiiiyyyyaaa !

Coming here to stress you a bit :D !! :bounce: ... tic ... tac ... tic .... tac ... (repeat that until you got your hands shaking and some sweat poking you in your eyes ... ) :scream:

The rootmen look great , Go go go Gillou !

cheers ,

-Zapan

[makaron]

great rootmen... looks like you gonna finish this time... hurray... :bounce:

[Lemog]

Whaouw the strong one... remember, you must finish this picture mate... would you want I phone to your wife to have a quiet week-end dedicated to finish your work for the challenge ? :scream: hahaha... go go go mon pote... à donf :bounce: :thumbsup:

[thebest]

very cool updates and today`s keep going lol

[ashiataka]

thanks.and also thanks for your advice l will hurry.

[gpepper]

Hiiiyyyyaaa !

Coming here to stress you a bit :D !! :bounce: ... tic ... tac ... tic .... tac ... (repeat that until you got your hands shaking and some sweat poking you in your eyes ... ) :scream:

The rootmen look great , Go go go Gillou !

cheers ,

-Zapan

Yeah you are right Steph the clock turns to quickly !

great rootmen... looks like you gonna finish this time... hurray... :bounce:

Thanks Mona !

Whaouw the strong one... remember, you must finish this picture mate... would you want I phone to your wife to have a quiet week-end dedicated to finish your work for the challenge ? :scream: hahaha... go go go mon pote... à donf :bounce: :thumbsup:

Oh my God ! The spam team is spamming my thread !
Ok people, I understood, I have 8 days to finish it, I think this is possible if I don't do anything else.
Thanks for support you helped me a lot !

very cool updates and today`s keep going lol

Thanks for your support Antone ! This is really cool to have friends on this community ! especialy you !

thanks.and also thanks for your advice l will hurry.

Thanks Soner ! :thumbsup:

[shakes]

go pepper! he looks great- good luck to the finish!

[Gunilla]

The rootmen are all looking great, Gilles! I like the blurry style - very nice!

And to continue the spam team attack - Go on, hurry up - You're almost there :bounce: :D

[gpepper]

go pepper! he looks great- good luck to the finish!

thanks Shakkie ! I will finish even if I have not to sleep the next week !

The rootmen are all looking great, Gilles! I like the blurry style - very nice!

And to continue the spam team attack - Go on, hurry up - You're almost there :bounce: :D

Thanks Gunnie ! Cool to know that you like them !
Things will arrive soon, stay tuned. Not something very spectacular just the fourth rootman...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148145680_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148145680_large.jpg)

Here is the fourth !
The fifth is coming !

[thebest]

and as always "which is something regular" great job and continue
keep up the fighting spirit :thumbsup:


Thanks for your support Antone ! This is really cool to have friends on this community ! especialy you !


thanks for ur feelings dude I really am very happy for having u as a friend thanks again :love:

[gpepper]

thanks for ur feelings dude I really am very happy for having u as a friend thanks again

You welcome !
Hey, I saw your wip "the classroom" ! Great progress until the "spectacular" challenge !
You are on the good road, guy ! Continue ! :thumbsup:

[Tremoside]

Heya mate! GO GO GO :bounce: Just waiting for your final! All these characters are excellent! I watched your turntable. :thumbsup: great!! Just keep goin!

[bizel]

go on gepper! great work! :thumbsup: it's the last straight line!!

I wish I can see your final pic soon.:rolleyes:

(ps: yes! I can post!!)

[thebest]

You welcome !
Hey, I saw your wip "the classroom" ! Great progress until the "spectacular" challenge !
You are on the good road, guy ! Continue ! :thumbsup:
oh many thanks dude :blush:

[gpepper]

Heya mate! GO GO GO :bounce: Just waiting for your final! All these characters are excellent! I watched your turntable. :thumbsup: great!! Just keep goin!

Thanks Mark !

go on gepper! great work! :thumbsup: it's the last straight line!!

I wish I can see your final pic soon.:rolleyes:

(ps: yes! I can post!!)

Thanks Julien ! Nice to see U there ! Yeah this is the last week before the end of the challenge...

oh many thanks dude :blush:

You welcome Antone ! ;)

[Lemog]

Now, I must acknowledge to be more of impatient to discover the final picture... I imagine much things in my small head, about all these incredibles roots man... and now, I want to see all this together... continue in this way Gillou... 5 days remaining, it's much and short... care man... finish your pic :twisted:

:beer:

[shakes]

go pepper..there's one more? maybe you should just copy paste this one so you can finish!!
good luck mate!( it looks superb, by the way!)

[Elendil_le_Grand]

Relly good ...
I can't wait to see the entire image ...

[gpepper]

Now, I must acknowledge to be more of impatient to discover the final picture... I imagine much things in my small head, about all these incredibles roots man... and now, I want to see all this together... continue in this way Gillou... 5 days remaining, it's much and short... care man... finish your pic :twisted:

Don't be so imaginative maybe you would be disapointed...
I think that some things will be in a hurry and not finished as good as I would... 5 days, I think this is possible if I work every night !

go pepper..there's one more? maybe you should just copy paste this one so you can finish!!
good luck mate!( it looks superb, by the way!)

Yes one more but he is finished. The last keep the base geometry. Now I have to render them one by one...
I not so satisfied of the ground but I don't think I have time to redo it. I hope the grass will hide my bad textures...
But now I have to model the background and all the atmospheric effects. Maybe somethings wiil be at the first plan on the left side of the picture... Let's see !

Relly good ...
I can't wait to see the entire image ...

Thanks Nico !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148295153_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148295153_large.jpg)

Here is the fifth !
Sixth is coming with not much change and then render and adding few details...

[thebest]

wohoo that`s cool and the rendering is coming can`t wait for this

keep going friend :scream:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148318150_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148318150_large.jpg)

Here is the sixth !
Now, rendering and compositing !
Yarglaaaa ! ( French word to say "Hi ha !")

[thebest]

Yarglaaaa keep going can`t wait for rendering

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148333866_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148333866_large.jpg)

Here is the first final render of one rootman...
Few things done in photoshop after...
Next rootmen to come...

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148337353_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148337353_large.jpg)

Here is the fifth !
...

[Womball]

The fifth looks really good! The one before it has dry eyes though. No wetness to the eye.

[thebest]

cool work keep going and remember not too much time left

[gpepper]

The fifth looks really good! The one before it has dry eyes though. No wetness to the eye.

Thanks Eric.
Maybe the things I do in photoshop over expose the eyes and then no contrast is seen...

cool work keep going and remember not too much time left

Thanks Antone ! I know, I know !

[Lemog]

Yeah... the 5th... now... run baby :bounce:

[thebest]

Thanks Antone ! I know, I know !
oh God I love pressure hahahaha lol :twisted: don`t u ?
hahahhaa Lemog do for sure lol

[Lemog]

hahahhaa Lemog do for sure lol
yeah.................. :scream:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148404672_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148404672_large.jpg)

Here is the fourth !
I thinks I will finish the others this evening...
After, Background ! and environment details !

Thanks Antone and Laurent for support and pressure ! :D

[thebest]

cool updates waiting for more
by the way nice hair hahahahaha lol

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148412733_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148412733_large.jpg)

the third in Maya !

[gpepper]

cool updates waiting for more
by the way nice hair hahahahaha lol

Leaves, my friend !

[rattlesnake]

wow these root men are amazing mate, i have no crits about them...im just waiting for your final composition...good luck friend!

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148413991_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148413991_large.jpg)

here is the second...
One more !

[gpepper]

wow these root men are amazing mate, i have no crits about them...im just waiting for your final composition...good luck friend!

Thanks Jorge !
I'm not so sure that they are so amazing, you are nice ! ;)
If I did more fine work, I wouldn't have such problems exporting between Zbrush and Maya...
I think some bump should be decrease and it will be cool...

I will do my best ! Thanks again for support ! :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148418755_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148418755_large.jpg)

Here is the last !
Now I can begin to work on the first plan composition !

[Vedic-kings]

Very nice!

I can't wait to see this all to come together!

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148420048_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148420048_large.jpg)

Here is the base geometry that I've done to quickly model the foliage of the tree.
Some ZB work and then Leaves generation with particles...

Very nice!

I can't wait to see this all to come together!

Thanks Josh ! ;)

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148420945_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148420945_large.jpg)

Here is the quick shaping of the base_foliage in ZB.
Now time to particle it !

[Womball]

Can't wait to see your progress!

[shakes]

Go Pepper Go!

[gpepper]

Can't wait to see your progress!

Thanks Eric, things are coming !

Go Pepper Go!

Yeah John, I'm in ! :bounce:

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148423711_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148423711_large.jpg)

Here is the step I've done to create Huge foliage on the tree !
- Bring back your geometry
-create a plane which will be the leave. Apply the texture to it. Maybe you will have to change the pivot to fit well to the texture...
-Create a particle flow and give to it all the things I put on the screenshot !
-When you create a PF source, you have to delete the position icon, and the shape.
-replace them by a instance shape where you will put the geometry which is the leave and a position object which is the shape of the foliage...
-You can let the other parameters llike they were when you created the PF source...
-You can do that for every things you want to generate with a geometry !

Have fun !

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148426048_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148426048_large.jpg)

Here is the tree with its foliage finally imported in Maya...
Textured soon...

[Womball]

Looks cool, but a little grey in the leafs. I think a more vibrant hunter green would work nicely. My name is Nathan by the way Giles. :D I thought you were using maya, your latest screenshot looks like some other program.

[thebest]

keep going Friend thanks for the tut :thumbsup: very helpful
faster faster faster faster faster

[gpepper]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148448322_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9655/9655_1148448322_large.jpg)

Here it is !

[Womball]

Seems like its loosing is shading at the base. I like the leaves color.

[gpepper]

Looks cool, but a little grey in the leafs. I think a more vibrant hunter green would work nicely. My name is Nathan by the way Giles. :D I thought you were using maya, your latest screenshot looks like some other program.

Sorry Nathan, I don't know why I called you Eric !? This is not the first time I see you posting here. Strange...
Yeah to generate my leaves, I use 3Dsmax... The first 3D software I learnt...

keep going Friend thanks for the tut :thumbsup: very helpful
faster faster faster faster faster

Thanks Antone and you welcome for the tut ! ;)