The Journey Begins Challenge (3D) Entry: Josh McGraw

[rattlesnake]

hi mate, good updates u have here, the modeling is neath and very good ..gogogo!:thumbsup:

man ...a little question ..what are u using for render?

mentalray ?

if so maybe u can try increasing the memory, and use placeholder option..hope that helps..if u have questions about it ill be glad to help, u can always pm me:thumbsup:

[rodrigoessinger]

Interesting story! After the challenge you should continue developing it.

Good composition and models. Keep it on.

Good luck!

[luigithekid]

Thats sad (ram problem).
Looking good!! But where is the other character going to be, the alien guy is taking a lot of space.

[shakes]

good luck with your puter problems- you could always do seperate renders of individal bits and composite in pshop-that's how I'll be doing mine.(oops, Stefan already said this!) looks fantastic so far.

[Vedic-kings]

Thanks for all your replys guys!

atra - im not sure how to add ram to my video-card. I have a Radeon X1600 Pro 512 MB PCIe Graphics Ca.

monsitj - Stefan_Morrell - shakes am learning about render layers right now looking in the maya help files. I should have it figured out soon!

the best - lol!

rattlesnake - ill pm you cause im not understanding render layer and yes im using mental ray for maya.

rodrigoessinger - ill keep that in mind:)

luigithekid- yes there are more character to be added, I will move them around tell they all fit:D

[guitarGeek]

Thats looking really cool, definitely one of those threads that makes me wonder why I actually bothered entering this competion. :) Keep it up!

[beelow]

Starting to look really good dude, keep it up and good luck!:thumbsup:

[Hoju]

I like the camera angle in this latest image. The buildings seem more distant, which is better. Having the ground in shot more helps with framing, and also links the foreground character to the buildings. I was just wondering where will the guards be in the picture?:hmm:

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142316094_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142316094_large.jpg)

Heres a wire of the alien for anyone who may be interested.

Well im going to start texturing the alien:)

[Vedic-kings]

guitarGeek - thanks man, just because one may look better dosen't mean it is:) Keep at it, ive only been work in 3d for 4 years, so its a matter of never giving up!

beelow - thanks:)

Hoju - thanks! The guards will be in the middle ground, which the guards will be guarding a gate for entering the city.

[Womball]

The composition is pretty amazing! And the wires look rather clean. Are you using radioistiy for rendering? That could be slowing it down.

[Vedic-kings]

Womball - thanks! im not sure what radioistiy is, sorry.

[Womball]

He he. I guess your not using it than. From what I understand, its a way of lighting the entire scene with photons. It adds a lot of time to the rendering, but if used right the results are stunning. Also you can define objects to be light sources or use half sphere (skydome) to emit light that bounces around the scene. However there may be a way of baking it into the scene. Also considering you have a lot of metal objects in your piece you might want to use HDR images. They create excellent reflections.

[thebest]

cool and funny alien keep going :thumbsup:

[Wintermute]

Womball - thanks! im not sure what radioistiy is, sorry.
Radiosity - Global Illumination - lighting which involves bounced lights to give that "overcast day" uniform illumination. Judging from your latest composition renders, you have it on. (light bouncing off of the beige ground is tinting the underside of your tower tops with the ground color)

Still looking great! :beer:

[ThierryS]

Love your modeling, it looks great! The concept sketches are realy cool too. Will come often to see your progress. Good luck!:bounce:

[ODoul]

Beautiful. I'm a wire junkie.

[kestas]

nice wireframe and the model is briliant

[shakes]

great wire mate! lotta work there.

[Vedic-kings]

Womball - Hmm.. im using mental ray's Final Gather (FG) with a Secondary Diffuse Bounces (SDB), which has a Global Illumination (GI) effect. So really it takes less time to render:)

the best - Thanks:)

Wintermute - Thank! True, but im using Secondary Diffuse Bounces instead of GI, which has the same effect, I think? I'll have to try the half sphere (skydome) idea. I don't know how to use HDR images:( I'll look into it though!

thierry2005 - thanks man!

3D_Explorer - thanks, am a wire junkie to!:D

kestas - thanks man!

shakes - thanks, yeah its take some work alright!

[Womball]

How hard is this to set up? And how much less time?

[arte-i45]

Hey there Josh, great job on the modeling, you have a very clean mesh! :beer:

Matt :)

[Nothingness]

man i just love your kick-ass sketches!

defenetly the alien concept 1!
liked 'm a more than the second :blush:


lucky you removed yoda's ears :twisted:

:: my journey entry :: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=328661)

[dannyfalch]

Oh yeah!

Still looking ace!
Very nice dramatic camera angle!:thumbsup:
good feel in the the moon city!

[Vedic-kings]

Womball - its not hard to setup at all, im using just one light (moonlight), and the Secondary Diffuse Bounces is one click option:) Oh its not that much less time, but less:D

mmbenya - thanks man!

Nothingness - thanks! I will model the concept alien #1 soon:) Yeah Yoda ears gone:D

3d-empire - thanks!

[Agamemnwn]

great character Josh and i love the composition so far . about the rendering problems i dont think your machine is a problem . i am working on a P III 450 with 384 mb ram and i made my spectacular entry on it so try to optimize the system . are u working on maya and mental ray maybe i can help ?

[Vedic-kings]

great character Josh and i love the composition so far . about the rendering problems i dont think your machine is a problem . i am working on a P III 450 with 384 mb ram and i made my spectacular entry on it so try to optimize the system . are u working on maya and mental ray maybe i can help ?

Hey you:) Yeah im using maya and mental ray. I've only started using mental ray about a year ago, been using maya from 2002. Im getting the hung of mental ray FG etc, but this is the first time I have had this problem (mental ray out of memory), and I see that I still have 800mb left to use?

Anyway I guess we can chat on msn:)

[asbassie]

These concepts are amazing and you mesh looks good. I like all the detail you're putting in there. Keep it up.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142415425_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142415425_large.jpg)

Well heres a little ZBrush work. I have spent all day trying to figure out how to inprot the displacement map into maya etc, and I get an all distroted looking renders, the head is all broken up in pices, and looks really bad, so im givind up for now. maybe the next challenge ill have ZBrush's displacement maps all figured out.

All heres a snapshot from ZBrush for you all:)

[Vedic-kings]

asbassie - thanks:)

[Zapan]

Wow , great character !! Awesome job detailling !!
Tiny crit ... something' bothering me with the nose ... nostrils are bit weird from here ...
Easily fixable I guess !

cheers ,

-Zapan

[gpepper]

Excellent stuff Josh !
Your alien is great, the wire is really clean.
The beginning of the composition is really dynamic.
I see that you will add some details to the alien's head with ZB ? Cool, can't wait to see it finished !

[Vedic-kings]

Zapan - thanks! Yeah the nostrils need more work I know:D Thanks for the crits:)

gpepper - Thanks!! Well I don't know if ill be using the zbrush displacement maps, Ill see what I can figure out in ZBrush!

[AIR]

Great modeling skill Josh..

This guy kinda recalls jabba the hut character to my mind,,
But I must stick arround to see how he looks in the end.

Keep it nicely as you did till now..:)

[shakes]

fantastic face, Josh, and nice modelling. looks like a toad man!

[thebest]

scary update :drool: keep going :beer:

[coochaki]

nice work in zbrush...
looking for more... .. .
:thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

A I R - thanks! jabba? Yeah he does look a little like him, not that I even thought about jabba when modeling him:D

shakes - thanks! Toad man, lol! yeah he does:)

the best - thanks man:) scary it is hehehe....

coochaki - thanks, you know this was my 2nd ZB work:) ZB is not that hard to use it just the exprot/inprot that is hard to figure out, but soon ill have that worked out:)

[Nothingness]

great z-brushing!

I wish i had more time and experience!!

hope you give this one a headphone and some
cool matrix sunglasses! :twisted:

keep up the good work

[Zom-B]

Nice job on the head. I think it will look cool with the helmet and other stuff on it. I missed the last couple updates, are you switching to a day scene? I think the mood and lighting would be more interesting at night. Very nice work.

[bkeiser3d]

Yeah I was going to do the same thing, but I decided just to use maya so the file stays light and I know what is going on. Z - Brush is pretty cool though. Everthing looks really good some fa in your entry.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142549354_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142549354_large.jpg)

I started working on the girl.

[gster123]

Nice one Vedic's!! Keep it up

[RenBoW]

Nice model.....and very nice concept sketches!!

[Vedic-kings]

Nice model.....and very nice concept sketches!!

Thanks RenBow:)

[thebest]

no crits keep rocking :buttrock:

[Vedic-kings]

no crits keep rocking :buttrock:

Thanks man!

I'll try to get an update posted later today:)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142763880_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142763880_large.jpg)

Hi guys:)

Heres an update on the girl.

I did a simple rig to see how she is defroming.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142765296_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142765296_large.jpg)

heres some other views and a wire.

I still have a lot to work on as shes not perfect yet:)

[Hoju]

She’s coming along nicely, and from what I can see she’s got clean geometry as well.:thumbsup:

[JacquesPena]

Cool sketch you did earlier btw. Your scene coming along nicely. Alien you did in zbrush is awesome. Good stuff. Keep it up.:thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

Hoju - thanks:) Well theres some areas that needs more work, but that will be done today.

Sleepinglion - thanks Ive been doing 2d for 17 years and 3d for 4:)

[rattlesnake]

Hello..looking cool..geometry is clean, but i think u can relax just a bit some areas..maybe the muscles on the neck..backside...she looks very athletic, good job so far..:thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

Hey rattlesnake, thanks man:) Yeah shes still in the works, but yeah see what you are saying, i'll relax her a little:D I'm going to add some cloths and armor, so shes not naked, hehe.. So this will cover up some areas that I would not have to work on to much.

[Womgoose]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1141458188_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1141458188_large.jpg)

Heres the first alien concept, not sure I like it though.

I really hope you find some spare time, space (and Ram hehe) to model this guy in, I love him.
Your concept and modelling work is inspirational.
I will be watching this with pleasure :)

[Vedic-kings]

I really hope you find some spare time, space (and Ram hehe) to model this guy in, I love him.
Your concept and modelling work is inspirational.
I will be watching this with pleasure :)

Thanks Womgoose!

I'll model that alien, after im done with the girl:)

[shakes]

great modelling Josh-her body looks quite J-LO!! nice butt. I second Womgoose on that alien drawing- would be great if you did it!

[Vedic-kings]

great modelling Josh-her body looks quite J-LO!! nice butt. I second Womgoose on that alien drawing- would be great if you did it!

Thanks shakes:) J-LO mmm.... yammy, anyways where was I? oh yeah about the alien ill be starting on him soon:)

[thebest]

I can`t say any crits until u say hey guys I finished modeling tell me som crits :arteest:

[Bonzodogboy]

Hi Vedic kings,
You have some nice work, I enjoy your conceptual sketches alot, and the models are coming along nicely.
There are alot of good ideas coming out in this challenge. :)

[Vedic-kings]

the best, i'll let you know when im done, Lol!

By the way, I love shirow work! The new Appleseed rocked! Which I own now:D Ive always loved Ghost in a Shell, GIAS 2 way good as well but nothing like the first one. Also, Akira was my first door way into the anime world, and will always be my baby:)

[Vedic-kings]

Hi Vedic kings,
You have some nice work, I enjoy your conceptual sketches alot, and the models are coming along nicely.
There are alot of good ideas coming out in this challenge. :)

Thanks man! Yeah its amazing to see all the cool idea coming out of thses forums!

[blueferret]

Your anatomy is looking better all the time .....her pectorals are a little high up on the chest don't you think ? or maybe it's just the view..... lol http://www.blueferret3dfx.com/favicon.ico

[thebest]

the best, i'll let you know when im done, Lol!

thanks mate waiting for that

By the way, I love shirow work! The new Appleseed rocked! Which I own now:D Ive always loved Ghost in a Shell, GIAS 2 way good as well but nothing like the first one. Also, Akira was my first door way into the anime world, and will always be my baby:)

hmm if u like that mauch u can join us just make apost in the thread

[ThierryS]

Keep it up, it will look good! I'm sure, just some more tweeking. You got good modeling going on in here. Cool stuff!:thumbsup:

[Nothingness]

hey josh,

looking great so far man! :thumbsup:
I already said i love that first alien and seeing it again makes me want to see it modeled soon.
But modeling characters takes a lot of time i've discovered :banghead:

I got figured out how zbrush and maya works well together so now i can start to do more for the modeling.
But i'm still so far behind :argh:


cheers

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142845889_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142845889_large.jpg)

Heres an update, just some basic gears and stuff.

Hope you like her so far;)

[Vedic-kings]

blueferret - hmm.. well I think ive fix that, just by covering it up, lol!:D

the best - That would be way fun! i'll come by and check it out:)

thierry2005 - thanks man:)

Nothingness - Thanks:) yeah the first alien concept will be a cool one to model, and I can't wait to get started on him! ZB to maya displanement maps im still trying to figure out myself, one of thoses days:)

[tuck]

Looking good man!
looking forward to see your worlk!:)

[Vedic-kings]

tuck - thanks man:)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142849644_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142849644_large.jpg)

Just a little color so you guys can see where im going with is:)

[thebest]

waiting for ur post in the thread
cool updates u have there :thumbsup:

[Womball]

Wow! Very nice modeling again! A few crits, she is rather skinny at the waist, but that seems to be a popular thing currently. Also her helmet does not give her silhouette any volume. Its just like its pasted on. Seems kind of a downer compared to the modeling of everything else. The pants are amazing.

[rattlesnake]

oohh..i see now...looking nice with cloth and sexy..love it mate!:thumbsup:

[se7enthcin]

Nice job. Only thing I would crit is the indentation in the back of her neck. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

[shakes]

she's lookin dangerous already!

[blueferret]

Your soldier gal is looking good (love those black leathers *.*) http://www.blueferret3dfx.com/favicon.ico

[Tremoside]

Hi Josh,

You're working a lot on your project and that's great mate! Good to see a well developed scene. For characters i have a tip for you, check a lot from below. It means when you model a face you should turn the model in viewport to see it from below. It's an easy way to check the position of the bones/shapes and you can avoid some tipical front/side viewport modelling artifacts. I'm not sure i was clear (english...), but probably helps you to create your amazing scene. Bests,

Mark

[Elentor]

Good model, but some parts are too "lined" out, like the torso and the back. Try to smooth the curves more.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142925064_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142925064_large.jpg)

Heres an update. Just added more gears:)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142925193_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1142925193_large.jpg)

Some wires for you all:)

[Vedic-kings]

the best - thanks:)

Womball - thanks man! The helmet is not final even with the new update, I plan to add all kinds of cool gears and stuff to it to make it look more real and cool:cool:

About the waist, thiat just my kind of girl:D

rattlesnake - thanks again man:)

se7enthcin - thanks, I fix the neck, I think?

shakes - hehe... thanks:D

blueferret - thanks man, yeah shes gotta have leather!

Tremoside - thanks! Yeah I understand what you are saying, and I see some areas that need work now:) So thanks for the tip!

Elentor - thanks and yeah I know about the to strang of line along the back, and ill work on that:)

[coochaki]

great modeling , wire looks clean & nice proportion of body.

looking forward... .. .

:thumbsup:

[Gopher3D]

I like the modeling ! Good work ;)

Maybe the torso seems a bit odd.


Gopher

[Vedic-kings]

coochaki - thanks:)

'Gopher' - thanks man! The torso seems a bit odd? I'll take a better look at that! Thanks for pointing it out:thumbsup:

[thebest]

nice updates keep going

[Vedic-kings]

nice updates keep going

Thanks man:)

[LexLe]

wow! super!

[kfc]

cool!!
:D
I like ur concept.

[Hynol]

She looks sexy. I like team members so far. It's going to be a great work. I hope ;).

[luigithekid]

Thats a graet model! Cant wait to see the alien model!

[alancamara]

It's my first time on this thread. Man your concept is strong dude, really I liked, great start with modeling too. Good luck

Alan

[oceanbluesky]

great concept! Looking forward to seeing more, congrats!

[Vedic-kings]

LexLe - Thanks:)

kfc - Thanks!

Hynol - thanks! I hope it turns out good too:D

luigithekid - thanks:)

alancamara - Thanks! Glad you could make it! Your model is looking great as well:)

oceanbluesky - thanks man!

[blueferret]

Hey the wires look real good............thats a pretty cool outfit she's got on.....must be a real warm planet....lol

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143005405_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143005405_large.jpg)

Just some glow. This will change though as this is not the final glow look.

[Vedic-kings]

blueferret - thanks man:)

Wram planet? Hmm.. maybe it should be very hot;)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143006865_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143006865_large.jpg)

Just to see how she looks in the dark:)

[Stefan-Morrell]

Tron :buttrock:
hehe

looking good man

[Vedic-kings]

Hehe.. Thanks Morrell:)....And rock on :buttrock:

[thebest]

very cool glow keep going :thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143015046_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143015046_large.jpg)

Well I started on the 2nd alien:)

Hope you all like him so far.

[Vedic-kings]

very cool glow keep going :thumbsup:

Thanks the best:)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143019473_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143019473_large.jpg)

Just a little update and some fun lighting setup. Anyways I still have more to do on the head like more gears and stuff.

[Womgoose]

HAHA Awesome!

Thanks for modelling him, he looks great :)

[thebest]

nice keep going :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hahahha..he has that look..he has style! :thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

Hi guys just got up, having my first cup of coffee:)

Womgoose - thanks, I enjoyed modeling his head:)

thebest - thanks:)

DimitrisLiatsos - Yes style it is!

I'll have an update later today on his new body:)

[nandlaskar]

model is looking preety good. keep it up:thumbsup:

[shakes]

glad you're doing this guy-great face!

[Vedic-kings]

CUBISIS and shakes - thanks guys:)

[shahabp]

you have a very good concepts.

nice camera angles and good compositions.
but the characters are not as good as your concept.
they are not unique
your work (sketches) is something that I can remember
but if you have more appealing characters in your work it woul be awesome
good luck

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143075318_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143075318_large.jpg)

Just some more modeling. Added the eye gear and started on the upper body.

[Vedic-kings]

shahabp - thanks man. About my modeling not living up to the concepts, I agree, and ill work harder on that:)

[thebest]

nice ear rings and nice mask keep going

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143098922_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143098922_large.jpg)

I did some more modeling and a rig test to see how hes looking:D

I still have more to add and fits here and there, like he has no feets yet:D.

[Vedic-kings]

thebest - Thanks:)

[ThierryS]

Haha, cool looking alien, well done Josh!:arteest:

[Vedic-kings]

Thierry - thanks man:)

[RenBoW]

Nice headgear and nice looking purple background...i think it fits that aliens color very well!!Good work!

[JurajMolcak]

Nice progress. I am just here to give you some nice words ;) Especially love lighting colorz and GREEN lighteyes.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143108014_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143108014_large.jpg)

Just having fun:)

I wanted to see some of my characters together.

[Vedic-kings]

RenBoW and Oweron - thanks guys!

Ok, now I need some sleep.

[Nomad]

Cool progress here :thumbsup:

I`ll keep an eye on this great ideas :D

[Cleveland]

i, like everybody else, love the last guy. great design. with that eyewear and skin color he reminds me of abe sapien. but with his skinny non human body he looks more original. well done.

you work faaassst.

cleveland.

[Vedic-kings]

Nomad - Thanksman :thumbsup:

Cleveland - thanks! Abe sapien? Hmm.. yeah they look somewhat the some in body type:)

Well I should have an update later today:)

[coochaki]

nice characters ,I like very much your alien's face.very nice.
but about riging: i dont agree with ankle of your alien character.the shape of ankle do not looks very good.
i dont know it is because of your modeling or riging.
however ;great work man
looking for more... .. .
:lightbulb

[Vedic-kings]

nice characters ,I like very much your alien's face.very nice.
but about riging: i dont agree with ankle of your alien character.the shape of ankle do not looks very good.
i dont know it is because of your modeling or riging.
however ;great work man
looking for more... .. .
:lightbulb

Thanks coochaki:)

About the ankle of the alien (2nd alien you are talking about right?) mean the knee? If so yeah it needs more work, im reading up on the two ways to setup characters in maya which are smooth bind or rigid bind, so ill fix that soon:)

[rattlesnake]

Hello friend...well the new alien has a very good design, and look great as your avatar!! i love it..:thumbsup:

good work man..character modeling here is very good to see.:bounce:

[Clorets]

Great character design, i like the expression on the face of the latest one.

[Cleveland]

Thanks coochaki:)

About the ankle of the alien (2nd alien you are talking about right?) mean the knee? If so yeah it needs more work, im reading up on the two ways to setup characters in maya which are smooth bind or rigid bind, so ill fix that soon:)

you'll be using smooth-bind then. but it really doesn't matter how you paint weights on a hinge joint like the knee, theyre gonna need an extra push to maintain volume. the good news is that you can just drive a blendshape off of the rotation of the knee (as its a hinge joint you don't have to deal with a pose-space deformer). or an influence object. but if you're not animating the character, i would just model the deformation in the pose.

but i guess you know all that,

cleveland

[ziriguidum]

hahaha.. very good, but the deformation of knee is no good.

[shakes]

looks great Josh-(I'm sure you're yet to fix the alien knee bend) love the colours, and the new alien rocks mate! love is glasses or eye surround. they look good together.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143169782_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143169782_large.jpg)

Just an idea for a scene layout. The moon tower will be moved and you will be able to see a moon city overview, well Ill try to make it happen.

[Cleveland]

rocking dude. and i love the sky light. on the down side, the moon gate thingy doesn't read too clearly even if you move it, i think. may need to be bigger?. i love the style of modeling of the city and the characters, but its a shame that you don't get to see two out of the three faces (although the one you can see is great). my man abe looks like he's being surprised rather than leading them, but i think its subtle. this still looking great though, so ignore my crits if you want.

cleveland

[Vedic-kings]

rattlesnake - thanks man! Im just trying to make my scene as interesting as possible:)

mkerouch - thanks, im glad you like my new alien:)

Cleveland - Thanks man and thanks for all your inputs:) Yes I know about all that stuff you said, and I am using smooth bind and I fix the knee problem using influence objects:)

Yeah the mood gate I had in mind is still in the works, I just have to play around with the scene more:)

ziriguidum - thanks, I fixs the knee.

shakes - thanks! Yeah im using colors to give the scene a sense of depth like my sketchs:)

[thebest]

cool keep going

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143183139_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143183139_large.jpg)

Well this is another view, but I have something else in mind. I think ill go back to the old view, when the alien 1 was looking up at the moon-city, but different as I have all the characters and im going to rebuild the moon-city, so the moon-tower will be the fouce of the scene, which I have to make look really good using all kinds of detils etc.

[coochaki]

really nice compo.
looking for great details on moon city.

[M477]

I'm liking both views... The first one as you can see more of the buildings, and the second as it is more interesting.. Perhaps you could combine the two somehow, by maybe doubling or tripling the height of the second image to include the tops of the buildings??

[shakes]

gee..tough choice..the scenes are both good. maybe I'd lean to the first one. good updates!

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143261700_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143261700_large.jpg)

Hi guys:)

I started on the moon-gate. The moon-city will be the background. The moon-gate is the transprotation station, which has transporters to go to the moon-city and back.

[blueferret]

looking good Josh.....http://www.blueferret3dfx.com/favicon.ico

[Vedic-kings]

coochaki, M477, shakes - thanks guys:)

Well the view is all new now:D

[Vedic-kings]

Thanks Deke:)

[thebest]

hmmm I think u must think of another composite or another poses to give it the journey feeling

[se7enthcin]

Nice! keep moving. I know you've changed the background a bit but that second composition felt better to me. :eek:

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143276507_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143276507_large.jpg)

Here the whole scene from the transprot station.

What do you guys think?

[Vedic-kings]

thebest - I hope the last post is better:)

se7enthcin - thanks! Well im working on it, its just to many ideas and you only get one scene to work with. Anyways im going to try a few more things with layout, but I think im on the right track now:)

[monsitj]

nice charactor and high detail environment! hope you can find the nice composition soon!:thumbsup:

[se7enthcin]

You might think about lowering the camera to eye level. See what kind of reaction that gets. Nice job!

[M477]

Nice job! Good new scene, it's interesting with plenty going on to look at so the best yet for sure. Nice scene concept too. :thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

monsitj - thanks man:) I hope I can find the best composition! Its just to many options to work with, mosty camera angal.

se7enthcin - thanks! Yeah the camera is my main problem im trying to workout!

M477 - thanks! You think this is the best scene yet? Well thats good to know:D I want the characters to be much closer and the alien 2, which you can't really see closer too.

I'll figure it out soon:)

[shakes]

so many choices..it's hard to know..maybe when you get your final comps together you should post them all together on one page. this one looks great.nice work on the transport section

[Vedic-kings]

Thanks shakes:)

Yeah ill try to put all the scene elements ideas in one scene, if that possible!

Man I need to start texturing and smooth bind my characters better, and I plan on modeling another character the guy, but I think I won't have enough room for one more as it is! But I do plan on making one more alien type for the moon-city:D More evil and dark like aliens who order the alien concept 2 with the eye gear.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143316907_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143316907_large.jpg)

Is this better?

Never mind the textures, they are just place holders for now.

[thebest]

yeah better composite just one question the light ! is it going to be like this ?
cuz I think it is little dark for daylight

[Vedic-kings]

yeah better composite just one question the light ! is it going to be like this ?
cuz I think it is little dark for daylight

Thanks best:) No the sky and light will not be like this at all! I plan to make a night scene, the sky now is just a place holder:D

[se7enthcin]

It still looks like the angle of the camera is pointed down too much. Is it possible to make it more horizontal with the groundplane? For some reason the "looking down" thing is not doing it for me. Keep it up!

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143348922_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143348922_large.jpg)

Well heres an update on the moon-city.

Im not sure I like it, but I have to pick something and say with it!:D

Now I have to model more details to the city and even the characters, and then textures and lighting!

[Vedic-kings]

It still looks like the angle of the camera is pointed down too much. Is it possible to make it more horizontal with the groundplane? For some reason the "looking down" thing is not doing it for me. Keep it up!

I hope the camera angle is better. Its not final so no worrys:)

[blakbird]

Josh, its an impressive thread, i liked the images on thread at number 11 and 50.
I am subscribed.

[thebest]

keep going

[Nothingness]

damn you're so far ahead.

It's looking great.
Good to see you trying many solutions

[stavrevstefan]

Hey

I like the atmosphere in this pic.But there is still lot work to do so hang on...

[Vedic-kings]

Le-Go - thanks man! Well im still trying to get the best scene layout. Yeah those sketchs 11 and 50 are nice, and I should use those! To tell you the truth im not happy with how the scene is turning out so far:(

thebest - im going 80 mph:D

Nothingness - thanks! yeah maybe far ahaed but, not happy with it so far!

stavrevstefan - thanks! Yes lots of work is stiil ahead!

Well im going to try something else!!

[Womgoose]

Vedic how do you find time to post so much and model like a machine? ;)

Still loving the concept and enjoying watching the progress.
Good to see my alien chum is back in the action yeehhaaaa!

:D

[Vedic-kings]

Vedic how do you find time to post so much and model like a machine? ;)

Still loving the concept and enjoying watching the progress.
Good to see my alien chum is back in the action yeehhaaaa!

:D

Well I do most of the work at night,, from like 8-10pm to 2-4am:D

Well back to the drawing board!

[Womgoose]

to 2-4am


YIKES extreme late night modelling :)

[Kris-S]

Well I do most of the work at night,, from like 8-10pm to 2-4am:D

Well back to the drawing board!

and when do you find the time to sleep?

[Vedic-kings]

and when do you find the time to sleep?

I sleep from around 2am to 8 or 9 am:) That about 7 hours of sleep, which is enough for me:D

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143444076_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143444076_large.jpg)

Hey guys:)

Well I came up with a new concept as I was not happy with how the moon-city scene was turning out.

This concept is about a business man named tom who live in america. He is always trying to do better at his job and making more money having nicer things and so on. But tom is so unhappy with life even though he has everything he wants. Tom had to look for some else in life, something that has meaning. One day he meets an interesting old man on the subway going home from work. The old man could see into his soul and see he is suffering with deep lost (eternal being). The old man told tom to go to India to find himself.

And this is the image above, which is tom on the inner journey of peace.

I don't know if this will work, as it maybe to religous!

What do you guys think?

[ThierryS]

Wow, a new concept, gee! I kind of liked the previous one, it was heading in a good direction. It's all up to you man, you got to feel which picture is motivating you the most, for which one the fire is the strongest, that's when you'll do your best work.

This new concept is interesting and certainly is original!

All my best for this new beginning! Good luck:thumbsup:

[coochaki]

:surprised
you surprised me!
what you decided to going with new concept!
don't worry my friend!
take a look at your previous concepts:
your first concept &your #4 concept , it was vey good.
because of good compositing & a wast scene that they are going there. this challenge want this from us!
really i belive you do't bring up your previous concepts, with your modeling!
or you confuse to compositing your 3d image. really i don't agree with yor 3d compositing.!
how ever --->
the is no matter with your previous concept or with a new concept; just take it easy!
good luck my friend... .. .

[M477]

:eek: Wow, new concept!? The Journey Begins again!?


I like the old concept... I like this one too :) It's good you are brave enough to change direction so far into it, I wish you well

:thumbsup:

[shakes]

hey Josh..personal advise? stick with it..the new one's nice and all, but you've put so much work in, and we all like it alot so far. maybe it's the ol mid challenge crisis creeping in?
anyway, whatever you choose, I'll be here looking. good luck!

[stavrevstefan]

I think your old work was good but it was poor with details...

just concetrate on the previous work...Don't give up just like that...

No one replied to my thread,but i just kept posting and geting better and better...Just wana say ... it is ok if u don't like it...That is why we work...to get better...

Hope i helped in some way...

[thebest]

nice but I think this one also don`t give me the journey feeling "maybe it is just me"

[luigithekid]

New concept?!?!?
Well, I liked the other one a lot. Specially since this last sketch doesnt relate much to your description of it. Well its your choice. Good luck with whatever you decide!

[stavrevstefan]

come on Bro

we are with u...

[ChewyPixels]

Nooooo!! :eek: Don't change the concept! You've done so much with it and I personally think it worked better in terms of theme than this one. Don't get me wrong, they are both cool ideas.

Think of it this way, you'll just have more time to improve your challenge entry if you decide to stick with your previous entry.

Regardless, good luck with whatever you do decide to go with. :)

[atra]

Hi Josh

Wow, I don't know what to say :) You have courage to change now
I like the old concept and the new one.
They are quite different.

so it's up to you
well, I like the new one just a little more... maybe it's I alredy have a picture of it in my head :)
It will be a great picture, if you make the texturing well.
I know how Indian cities and willages look like. Textures will make the scene pretty vivid
And I am sure that you'll make it awesome

Enjoy your new journey :applause:

[Vedic-kings]

Wow! thanks everyone!

Well looks like most of you like the old concept:D

Thanks to you all for keep me on the right path, if you will:D

What i'' do is use both ideas in one, i'll make the scene more simple, as I think theres to much gong on. And like stavrevstefan said the details are poor. So Ill make my scene more simple and but with the details, then add some India elements to the scene, with the same characters, but it will be the journay of peace.:)

[Womgoose]

The big green and skinny alien will save the day! :)
Whatever you end up doing will be great Vedic... I have faith ;)

[Vedic-kings]

The big green and skinny alien will save the day! :)
Whatever you end up doing will be great Vedic... I have faith ;)

Thanks man:thumbsup:

[arte-i45]

The updates for your previous concept look great! :thumbsup: The new concept has a good feel too, it would be a hard choice for me which one to go with. As for the religous aspect of the image, I don't think that should be a deciding factor. It sounds a little like Foundationism to me. ;)

Matt :)

[rattlesnake]

man ..new concept feels really conceptual..is not a really clear idea about journey. ..i mean on a quick aproach it doesnt, but it gives the complete idea of a journey once the people pay attention to it..u make people to really pay attention to your image..so i think is a valid thing too.
i admire your capacity to "change" that way of thinking can get u really high, of course u need to regroup and see if something can rework for your new try..

i think this is what u are going to do..get what still work and make it rich with some more great work..man really want to see your new updates and see how u turn this into a master piece..just keep rocking dude!

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143526000_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143526000_large.jpg)

Well heres the new world:)

Its going to be loaded with small details and all that cool stuff:D

Anyways let me know what you think.

[coochaki]

looks good.:lightbulb
really i don't know what to say!... let me to waiting to see more updates...
looking forward... .. .
good luck man.

[Vedic-kings]

mmbenya - Well thats good to know "Foundationism" hehehe.. Anyways im planing on using India or eastern culture with western science fiction. The science fiction part is mostly what I have alreaddy been doing:D

rattlesnake - Well I understand what you mean by you really have to look at the new concept to see its meaning. But I plan on just using some Yogis like characters from the future, which are on the journey of self realization. Im going to still use the characters from before, maybe not the green alien though, which I don't think it will fit the new idea in mind.

So basically in the end all the concepts will fall into one final render:)

[Vedic-kings]

looks good.:lightbulb
really i don't know what to say!... let me to waiting to see more updates...
looking forward... .. .
good luck man.

Thanks:)

You don't have to say anything, its like whtching a movie, what is there to say?:D

[coochaki]

let me know!...

you got me!
yeh .. like a movie..
i'm waiting to see the result of this movie!

[Vedic-kings]

let me know!...

you got me!
yeh .. like a movie..
i'm waiting to see the result of this movie!

Ok, I'll let you know:) Ill just keep on directing the scene:D

[thebest]

cool new updates

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143538361_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143538361_large.jpg)

Well another update, still have lot more ahead.

Im so tired, im heading to bed, good night and day everyone.

[Vedic-kings]

cool new updates

Thanks best:)

[kfc]

cool update dude.
I like the mood very much.
I'm sure it's gonna be better with texture on. :applause:

[arte-i45]

Hey Josh, yeah it was the sci-fi theme that made me think of Foundationism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundationism). Since it is a fictional religion in Babylon 5. One of the character is a Foundationist and goes on a walkabout to find himself. :p The updates look fantastic! :buttrock:

Matt :)

[thebest]

I like this city keep going

[shakes]

glad you're pretty much sticking with it! this last scene looks really great.

[Womgoose]

Looking good Mr Vedic - good to see you fighting on :)

[coochaki]

hummm. mm. ..m:drool:
looks great!
keep going.

[medunecer]

Great updates! I really likke your architectures! It will be really a great entry!

[bkeiser3d]

looking good. I think your done with your concept. it looks fine to me.

[Bonzodogboy]

The city is looking really good . I am enjoying watching this come together :)

[dannyfalch]

Very nice city.

The architure looks like a mix of sci-fi and old caltle like buildings,
are you going to texture te buildings like that mix or onlt as sci-fi?

[MT-Cup]

Love the new city and the POV. Very cool blending of sci-fi and midieval in the architecture, too. Glad you stuck with the first idea.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Yes..if i may..i am glad too..this looks very promising .;)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143666933_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143666933_large.jpg)

Well just a small update. The texture is just a place holder to see what is may look like and so.

Tell me what you think so far guys.

Thanks!

[Vedic-kings]

kfc - thanks man! well heres a test texture for you:D

mmbenya - thanks:) Babylon 5 is a cool show, I watch it from time to time.

thebest - thanks man :buttrock:

shakes - thanks, yeah me to:)

Womgoose - thank! yeah fighting is the trick:D

coochaki - thank!

medunecer - thanks man, yeah I hope it turns out great!

bkeiser3d - thank! You think im done with me concept? I think your right:D

Bonzodogboy - thanks man:)

dannyfalch - thanks! im going to texture the scene with a mix of sci-fi and India as you can already see:)

MT Cup - thanks! Yeah midieval India and a few other architectural styles as well:)

DimitrisLiatsos - thank you man!

Well I have much more to work on as far as modeling goes, the texturing is going to be a pain, but ill get it done:D

[dannyfalch]

nice.

It looks like it will make a great combination with the old and sci-fi.
but i think the contrast between new and old should be more visible.
new and metalic old and dusty/stonelike.

[M477]

Good call not to completely change direction, knew you'd work something out! The new direction is cool, I like the vastness of it, and the red of the building is interesting, should give you that modern but old look :thumbsup:

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143688045_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143688045_large.jpg)

Hi guys, heres an update on modeling. Started to add some details.

Hope you like.

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143690015_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143690015_large.jpg)

Just to see a character in the scene:)

[Vedic-kings]

dannyfalch - thank:) Yes you will be able to see the contrast between ancient India and the future:)

M477 - thanks:) yes a new world:) The red color on the castle you will see all over India:)

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143692053_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143692053_large.jpg)

Added the girl for fun, but this is what I have in mind though, but the character and camera angle will differ somewhat.

[thebest]

keep going

[Vedic-kings]

keep going

Im going:D

[coochaki]

really good composite!:cool:

but i belive the angle of camera must be change, alittle!
Really i like the direction that you choosen!
keep it up man ... .. .

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143710860_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143710860_large.jpg)

Hey guys.

Heres a little update.

I did some simply textures and modeled a flying motor bike thingy.

The flames was done in photoshop, as im not sure how do create heat waves in maya, I do know that the dynamic can create this effect, but I need to read up on that more.

Anyway what do you guys think about the compositing so far?

[InTerceptoV]

Hi. Great work so far. It seams that we will both have big architectural structures in the back of the image. ;)

What do you plan to put in the back where the blue is.... or would it fade in to the fog? The touch of the sea and reflections would probably look great in the final.

Well, good luck ... I will visit your thread from time to time. ;)

[coochaki]

wow... looks great!:thumbsup:
can't wait to see more updates!:bounce:
keep giong... .. .:buttrock:

[freddylierman]

Very nice work so far.
Compositing wise the image seems to be hanging a bit to the left.
Mainly cause you have the big structure there and the main foreground chars, and the on the right you have the big blue gap.
Mayby it will balance out when you work out the rails at the top right.

Good job so far!

[M477]

The detailing on the castle looks great, and the bike is cool too. Does it matter if you put flames on in Photoshop? Hope you find a way to get the effect in Maya if it's against the rules


:thumbsup:

[thebest]

hmm something is annoying me in this light donat know what it is

[Hynol]

Your characters are so nice - you should expose them more (faces, front side of models). City is interesting - modern, but with some ancient accent. I like it. Keep on working Dude ;).

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143758816_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143758816_large.jpg)

Ok guys I setarted making real textures here:D

I have not done alot of texturing in the past, so this is my weakness.

The texture size is 2521 x 2521, is that good?

Also I use a photo of old metal that I got off the internet and painted over it in photoshop. and created a bumpmap using the texture. I use a planar UVs mapping in maya, which I think works the best for this. I was using a cylindrical mapping but the texture got all distorted in some areas.

Anyways I hope im doing this right!

[Vedic-kings]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143759366_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/9645/9645_1143759366_large.jpg)

So heres the two mapping cylindrical mapping looks distored and it seem like the right mapping to use. The planar workd better in the case. You guys have any thoughts on this?

Also what do you guys use, do you take your own pictures for textures or do you download them off the internet?

[Vedic-kings]

InTerceptoV - thanks man. I plan on putting more architectural structures in the background (holy city) which is the journey of self-Relization:)

Yeah looks like we have huge architectural structures in our scenes:D

coochaki - thanks! more coming!

Frederic L. - thanks, the camera agnle will change somewhat in the final render, and yeah there will be more in the background where the blue is:)

M477 - thanks man! I don'y know if its ok to use photoshop or not for the flames, but i'll get it to work in maya, just need to read up on it more:)

thebest - I'll fix the lighting later.

Hynol - thank! Yeah your right I should have the characters more seen in camera view, like the face and so on, thenks for pointing that out:thumbsup:

[arte-i45]

Hey Josh, superb job on the texturing! :buttrock: You've really got the worn metal look down to a science.

Matt :)

[se7enthcin]

Wow. That is quite a large texture for something that will be relatively small in your scene. Do you know your final output size? To give you an idea of pixel ratio to output, a 4096 x 5120 px image will result in roughly a 13x17in (American) or a 346.79x433.49mm (the rest of the world) print. Generally you will want textures that are closer to the camera to be larger. The piece you have there is merely an accessory to a much larger model. You have to figure out how much space your character will occupy on the page and then accommodate your texture to that. You might want to try a texture of 512x512 for that item. This will not only cut down on render time but should still look good with the current distance.

If you have any questions about pixel to output than jump into Photoshop and try a 300dpi setting with however big you want your picture size to be in inches or millimeters and then when you open up the actual file, go to image and image size and change the image size from in or mm to px to see how many pixels you are actually going to be using.

The last bit of information I can give you is this. If your character occupies roughly 2000 pixels you will want his entire body map to be roughly a 4096 map. The reason for this is that the character's texture map should be twice the occupied space. If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I will try to explain it another way.

- Cheers!

[Nothingness]

hey josh,

the texture of the old metal is rather big. Not that it's a bad thing but you could optimize it all. Best is to make a kind of test-rendering of your scene - if you know the final composition - at the final resolution. Just a simple render. Then you can check the size of the object at the final image. Then you can keep the texture as small as possible. Reason is to keep your ram from freakin out. Reason i say this is because you'll seem to be having a lot of textures and this could be a hell to render/calculate.

Are you using maya by the way?

if you are, and your textures are not pixeled at rendertime - turn off the filtering to get sharper renders. I mean the filtering at the file-node.

About the cylindical-mapping: keep an eye on the center-line of the cylinder and the direction. This is the thing that controls how good your object is mapped.

cheers

[thebest]

cool texture keep going

[Hynol]

Well, texture is too big I think. Try to match your output image size. If you are interested in making rusted material, perhaps it will help, my old work:

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beast15f0ni.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beast179ri.jpg
http://img477.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rust0nf.jpg

I made it by blending two materials (material: Blend) - rust and painted surface. Rust is simple, flat, std material with some bump, and painted surface is basic MR with blured reflection and some rust color leaks (don't know it's right word). But it's hard to make nice rusty orange painted surface - orange is too similar to rust.

Texture is free to use. I did it using a lot of free nvidia textures.

[elmasfeo]

:wise: great job....
I like a lot the design of the city... the flying bike reminds me a lot of star wars, probably just because the guy riding it has got some kind of white armor like the SW troopers...

keep it up, it's looking very good! :thumbsup:

[Cleveland]

getting better all the time. it's really looking profesional grade now. especially the city, you could specialize in 3d backgorunds too! not just characters.

while everyone is right that the texture may be too large, i wouldn't worry too much about it. the reason being that if you make it oversized in your photoshop document and then save out the jpeg/tif for the actual texture, then you can adjust the size of the jpeg/tif to optimize to placement. then if you decide to change your composition and the characters have moved closer too the camera, then you don't have to redo the textures, just use the original size. makes sense?

either way you' obviously know what you're doing. so i'll just let you get on.

cleveland.

[ThierryS]

Hi, glad to see you stayed on your first concept, and it's looking amazing, that perspective is working very well. I like your texturing too, this will look great!:cool: :bounce:

[rattlesnake]

hello man...i like the castle a lot, this new composition is looking good:cool:. im sure this will end into a very good art piece, metal texture looks very good to me:arteest:

[shakes]

the city is looking fantastic-you're getting alot done. as for the texture..prob is a bit big, but at least you can reuse the model for super large prints! better than being too low res.
keep it up!

[Vedic-kings]

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Hey guys.

Well ive been very buzy the last 2 days (family life), so I have had time today to work more on my character yahoo!:)

Anyway, the textiring seems to be a lot of work!! I mean to texture even part of the character with a new texture is alot! I guess the whole point is to not to use the same texture all over, which I have done:D Theres only about 4 textures on the whole character as you can see. Well ive been painting skin weight most all day, so he has nice deforms etc:)

Anyway I think for a close up of the alien hes good as far as the smooth bind, now its just the textures!

The pose hes in now is kind of what im going for:)

[Vedic-kings]

mmbenya - Well thank you!:)

se7enthcin - Wow thanks for all your in puts!

I do understand most what you said. So I will just use large textures for close ups and 512 x 512 or around that for far away models.

The one thing I don't understand is the part when you talk about dpi, I know all about dpi's, but 300 dpi for all your textures? Maybe use 300dpi for close up and 72 for far away.

This I didn't get

"If your character occupies roughly 2000 pixels you will want his entire body map to be roughly a 4096 map. The reason for this is that the character's texture map should be twice the occupied space. If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I will try to explain it another way."

Could you explain better please, thanks:)

Nothingness - Thanks for all your great info! I checked the filter under texture file and its already off:) Quadratic a good file type? Thanks for the cylindical-mapping tip:thumbsup:

And yes im using maya and mental ray.

thebest - thanks:)

Hynol - Thanks for your inputs! What do you mean by matching my output image size? Thanks for the texture, its very nice:thumbsup: Nice robot by the way!

elmasfeo - thank. The flying bike may not be in the final render not sure about it yet.

Cleveland - thanks man! specialize in 3d backgrounds? Well its good to know my work is that good:D Yex the whole texture size thing makes sense, and thats what I plan to do, which I can resize in photoshop and just reload texture in maya:)

thierry2005 - thanks!

rattlesnake - thank you very much man!

shakes - thanks! Yes I can always resize the texture later not a problem really:)

[coochaki]

looks great!
nice textures , the pose of your character tooks cool!
looking forward!... .. .

[thebest]

very cool updates

[Vedic-kings]

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Just a small update working with the compos more. Well back to adding more to the city and texturing gots lots to do there!

[Vedic-kings]

coochaki and best thanks:)

[coochaki]

cooooooooooooooool!.......
But the pose of youre alien do not looks cool!maybe this is just to me !
how ever ____ what you think?

[Vedic-kings]

cooooooooooooooool!.......
But the pose of youre alien do not looks cool!maybe this is just to me !
how ever ____ what you think?

Which alien are you talking about?

[coochaki]

oh i forget to say the name of your alien! haha ...
ok that alien that is your avator!
ha .. .

[se7enthcin]

Not 300dpi for all your textures. What I meant was 300 dpi as print resolution output. you can have an image at 72 dpi with an equivalent pixel ratio and it will print well. Don't worry about that too much right now. Use 72 dpi textures.

What you do need to worry about is the actual area that your character occupies. The pictures I have included are examples. For example, the cobblestone texture in both pieces is a 2056x2056 map. The total area that the cobblestone occupies in the image to the left is just over 2600 square. If you look at the sharpness of the texture in comparison to the one on the right you should begin to understand what I was talking about. The actual occupied space of the texture in the image. The one on the right is "sharper" (though not by much, this is kind of a bad example). The reason the image on the right is "sharper" is mainly because it occupies an area closer to the map's original size.

http://www.coldseatproductions.com/CGTalk/cobblestoneDemo.jpg

To take what we talked about above into better perspective. The image below shows a bounding box of a 512 pixel area. The character in the middle occupies a 512 mapping area. Now, while this character is rather simple, you could probably get away with maybe a 512 map or even a 768 map but a 1024 map would be advised. The reason being, the character texture map should be twice the occupied size of what ever the final resolution of the image may be.

http://www.coldseatproductions.com/CGTalk/512imageArea.jpg


Hynol and Cleveland are right. Depending on what you plan on doing with this image, you may want to go bigger with the texture but the fundamentals are the same. Make sure that you are thinking about your final output resolution/print resolution when you are making the textures. The bigger you want your image to go, the bigger you will want your textures. You can always down size your textures but it is harder to add detail to a lower resolution texture. I hope this is a better explanation.