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Zephyri
02-22-2006, 12:32 PM
Well, I hadn't started an anatomy thread, as I actually thought I wouldn't have much to fill it with, then once I finished my OFDW 11 work, I collected all my stuff together and good grief... anatomy and figurative art in general seems to be all I do.... O.o

So here's my anatomical diary, as it were. Some background info: I studied art upto A level standard in the UK (upto the age of 18) and gained a grade D (A being the highest). After that, I left school and got a job as a minaturist, painting 1.5" x 1.5" paintings which were sold in america, which was a really good grounding, as I painting everything and anything. The job killed any enthusiasm I had for doing my own art.
After 3 years doing that, I moved onto a graphic design job which I'm still in now, and my desire for art really began about 6 years ago after leaving the miniaturist job. My art education, it seems, taught me very little of use, so most of what I know now is self-learnt through books and looking at tutorials, and others artwork. I started dabbling with digital a couple of years ago, and only started seriously when I decided to enter the master and servant contest here on CGTalk. My aspiratiosn are to one day make a living doing the sort of art I love, which is figurative and fantasy mostly, and I harbour a secret ambition to be an animator but suspect I lack the patience.

And now onto the art!

Some of my OFDW pieces to date:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/aphrodisia-v8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/Morning_s_Glory_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/figure-draw-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/leg-study.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/ronarm.jpg

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 12:36 PM
And some of the many, many gesture drawings I do on a weekly basis, as a way of loosening myself up, and I also find a lot of inspiration in these.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/gestures1.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/gestures2.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/gestures3.jpg

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 12:42 PM
some anatomical studies. I'm concntrating mostly on the skeletal structure at the minute, as I see anatomy is kind of like learning a language. You can either learn a few phrases you need off by heart, or you can spend much long and study the linguistic building blocks of the language like grammar, tenses, verb structure, and create any kind of senstence you like once you know the vocab. So I'm starting with bones and a bit of muscular stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/skullside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/musculature1.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/skeletal.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/pelvicstudies.jpg

There is more, which I'll post once I've scanned it!

Rebeccak
02-22-2006, 12:44 PM
Zepyhri,

Great to see this! Some really fantastic work! :applause: Will be definitely looking forward to seeing your updates. :cool:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 12:50 PM
If this is a bit all over the place, I apologise, I've never been what you'd term 'methodical'.

Some of the head and face studies, in varying styles. I love drawings faces, it's what I started with, so i've had a good four years practising this sort of stuff.

Some 'animator' type head sketches of characters from a novel of mine:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/toniheads.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/jayheads.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Char_sketches___Rubin_and_Kana_by_Z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/cgtalk%20images/kana.jpg
(with some hand practice.. i hate hands!!)

Some more realistic ones, in pencil, no references, just imagination:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/maleelfportrait.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/femaleheadside.jpg

and a study in using solid balcks and whites and a touch of grey in creating volume and mass, all photo references, aside from the spiky collar (my own personal touch)
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/A_J_M__by_Zephyri.jpg

And a very recent piece, still in progress, this is using no reference whatsoever, which why I am so happy with how it's coming out, as it shows how much I'm learning:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/kana1.jpg

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 12:59 PM
And to finish for now, just some other examples of figurative art of mine:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Zoooombies_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Zoooombie_2_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Futuristic_Vampyr_Lord_Concept_by_Z.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Sacrifice___sketch_by_Zephyri.jpg
photo reference used for the pose

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Sacrifice___pencil_by_Zephyri.jpg
a combination of about three photos used for the pose.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Deus_take_2_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Captive_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Pretty_When_You_Cry_sketch_by_Zephy.jpg
Above was done with a wooden mannakin for reference

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/msentryupdate.jpg
Some photo reference used for the muscular structure on the demon.

And finally, a self portrait, with a rather hunky red beastie:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/deviltakerher.jpg

Yikes, hope that not too much! I'll try to keep this as upto date as I can, and look forward to being able to interact with everyone.

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 01:05 PM
Thanks Rebecca, definitely looking forward to being able to keep a anatomy diary, and finally having some time to contribute to others threads too. :D

ceresz
02-22-2006, 01:14 PM
Very nice work Zepyhri, keep it up!
~Skurai

Rebeccak
02-22-2006, 02:07 PM
WOW, lots of great work here! :thumbsup: A very promising thread, indeed. :) What are some of your major influences artistically? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebecca

Elsie
02-22-2006, 02:10 PM
Whee Sam, very happy to see you creating one of these threads :bounce: let the awesomeness commence!

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 03:07 PM
Skurai: Thank you! I will!
Rebecca: Crikey, artistic influences.. I'm influenced by anything and everything, and I love trying out new styles. I'd say Brom, Vallejo and Cleavenger influenced heavily the style and subject of my art, but I love old masters like Titian, Caravaggio, Delacroix, Rembrandt, Bougereau - I'm a sucker for any kind of mythical paintings. More recently, Alphonse Mucha, Yoshitaka Amano, Linda Bergkvist and the animated works of Yoshiaki Kawajiri (Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust and Ninja Scroll) have really made me sit back and think about style and light and colour.
Elsie: Thanks... me too! Shall be coming to lurk in your thread soon...

3dRaven
02-22-2006, 03:46 PM
Wow Zepyhri your pics just keep getting better & better. Nice Kain sketches too :D

SpiritDreamer
02-22-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi....SPIRIT WIND... :wavey:

FANTASTIC....really enjoy seeing it all together in one place....always loved that snow leapard.
Your linework and drafsmanship are GREAT...along with your painting technique and colors...
A real pleasure seeing that imagination of yours at work and play.
Can't wait to see what springs from it next. :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Squibbit
02-22-2006, 08:04 PM
wow u kow i only saw that 'devil take her' from u before and it was like a bit over avarage
stuff, but hey these are amazing works


.

pushav
02-23-2006, 01:01 AM
Wow! Real Nice fantasy art and pencil sketches. Amazing.:buttrock:

aggie93
02-23-2006, 02:48 AM
Great to see your thread. I am a fan already. To let you know, I started my OFDW 14 just now. I bought a set of Prismacolor set of 24. Being a guy, of course I tend to stick to the female anatomy so I am doing to girl by the sea. Alot of natural skin color to start off with. I am at my seminar now at the hotel in OKC. So I won't be destracted by work and family. I should get alot done on this. I will post daily, hopefully.



Ags

Mu
02-23-2006, 07:56 AM
wow, Zephyri,


I am still stunned, trying to comprehend what I have seen on that first page.

:eek:

Zephyri
02-23-2006, 08:07 AM
Thanks for all the lovely comments!
3DRaven Thanks! I'll hopefully keep getting better too...
Spirit Dreamer Aw, thanks Glenn, coming from a mind as colourful a syours, thats great to hear!
Squib Hey there... admittedly, my stuff has really been just above average, I'm working to make it exceptional, but tis a long process!! Good to see you here.
Pushav Thanks!
Aggie hey, can't wait to see some progress on that OFDW... I'll be glad to give any pointers I can think of! Thanks for dropping in!
Mr Mu, aw, *blush* thanks...

Here's something I was working on last night:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/angeldetails.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/inthearmsofanangel.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-25-2006, 11:55 AM
SPIRIT WIND....I like how you capture your thought, and composition right from the start
IT'S all there in that first thumnail....nice...:thumbsup:
In case you have'nt seen them yet, there are some real good links in the
Favorite Figureative Artists section in this forum...sticky...top of page..main menu page
Boris Vallejo...page # 1......Caravggio....Vargas...page # 2...and QueenSoul put some
really great links on page # 3.....if you go there, you might want to leave a link or two
yourself ..Brum ect.....start of a good library...:)
Those wings you just did, made me think of Caravggio...and that link I just mentioned.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

aggie93
02-25-2006, 12:11 PM
What type of paper do you use? May be that is why my rendering is so sucky!

Lyneran
02-25-2006, 12:27 PM
hi zephyri! beautiful paintings, especially the first two! the use of colors in the first & the detail on the cloth in the second is really eye catching. your pencil work is also amazingly expressive. love it!

Zephyri
04-21-2006, 12:37 AM
Feeling somewhat ashamed for not having been here in ages, I thought I'd best start by updating this thread! I keep finding lots of interesting forums through links on this website that are rather addictive too!

Been artistically busy in the meanwhile! So hopefully a fairly chunky update will make up a little for my being awol!

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/elfgeneral.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Prom_Dates_by_Zephyri.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/HtF___The_Birthday_Boy_by_Z.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/knocknacarra.jpg

An update on an eariler image:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/kana-v2.jpg


And then something I've just recently started on as a gift for a friend, one of her characters using reference from the generous Hong Ly, this will eventually be a tattooed cybernetic elf exotic dancer complete with background and feathery fans! I will probably keep tabs on this here, updating as I go along.

After about 3-4 hours work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/aurora.jpg

After about 8-10 hrs work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/auryv2a.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-21-2006, 03:09 AM
Hi...SPIRIT WIND...:)

I like them all, they are all a little different in style from each other...nice explorations..
Very cool colors on that last one...are you planning on warming it up any, or will that
take away the feeling that you are going for...just curious....I like cool blues, but always
run into problems when I go to get them printed...colors never match the original...:shrug:
Looking forward to seeing the progress on that one...:thumbsup:

I think that the guy playing the guitar sitting on the rock, would make a great painting, has
a really nice feel to it...hint hint...:) .....BEAUTIFUL DRAWING by the way..:thumbsup:

Nice to see you back....:thumbsup: and thanks for stopping by my thread...answered your question about photo shop on there....take a look when you get a chance, and if you feel like it.

TAKE CARE
Glenn

umbrellasky
04-22-2006, 08:53 PM
:eek: I'm speachless! You drawings are spectacular!

Rebeccak
04-22-2006, 08:55 PM
Great stuff, Zeph!

This one in particular seems to have a lot of potential:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/auryv2a.jpg
Looking forward to seeing further progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Zephyri
04-29-2006, 08:52 PM
Thank you everyone...
Glenn I'm turning the one of the gypsy guitar player into a watercolour, in a similar style to Stephanie Pui Mun Law.

Rebecca Agreed, definitely... I'm working on about six different things at the moment, as I can't seem to focus on one specific thing!

Though, you know, you work at something for ages. It's a year since I got involved in this forum, and while I've not been the most interactive... I've lurked a lot, read through countless threads and learnt so much. And last night I reached a big turning point for me. It may not look like much, but this picture was that turning point:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Maq.jpg

That picture was done without any reference at all. And having done it, I stepped back and thought, dang... this anatomy stuff is really starting to seep through on a deeper level. Take it in comparison to this work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Dragonchoice.jpg
which is almost two years old. In its own right, it's not bad, but there are glaring errors and I am completely ignorant of all the basics of drawing/anatomy/composition etc. A huge amount of the improvement I've seen recently in my figurative work is due to this forum, and in my work as a whole due to this site. And my own desire to get better, or course! It's just a note to those who happen upon my work and think "wow, she's good" (not that that would ever be me, of course) - even as little as 2 years ago, I was mediocre at best. And if thats not an advertisement for the rewards of study and practice, I don't know what is!

But my own musings and praisings of CGTalk aside, on with the art! Some more stuff, and a WIP from my OFDW so far.
Digital sketch, about an hour, no refs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/fateypoo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/mooarta.jpg

Latest concept for my journey challenge:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/beastie.jpg

Upcoming painting for deviantart's Artists for Charity project, used a stock photo as basic reference:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/artnouveau.jpg

And latest shot from OFDW 0016, Rembrandt copy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/rembrandt3.jpg

Rebeccak
04-29-2006, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Zephyri: It's a year since I got involved in this forum, and while I've not been the most interactive... I've lurked a lot, read through countless threads and learnt so much. And last night I reached a big turning point for me. It may not look like much, but this picture was that turning point:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Maq.jpg

That picture was done without any reference at all. And having done it, I stepped back and thought, dang... this anatomy stuff is really starting to seep through on a deeper level. Take it in comparison to this work [] which is almost two years old. In its own right, it's not bad, but there are glaring errors and I am completely ignorant of all the basics of drawing/anatomy/composition etc. A huge amount of the improvement I've seen recently in my figurative work is due to this forum, and in my work as a whole due to this site. And my own desire to get better, or course! It's just a note to those who happen upon my work and think "wow, she's good" (not that that would ever be me, of course) - even as little as 2 years ago, I was mediocre at best. And if thats not an advertisement for the rewards of study and practice, I don't know what is!
Zephyri, thanks a lot for your comments and feedback ~ that means a lot! :) It's really great to hear that you feel your own work to be improving in part thanks to your involvement in this forum...that's the best thing that I can hear! :) I really like your latest imaginative piece, and can really tell the difference between the confidence in the figurative drawing there and your previous work. That's fantastic! I really have to give Hong a lot of credit for sharing his fantastic photos with us ~ the OFDWs have been such a major part of the forum, that Hong's contribution really can't be underestimated. :)

I'm really liking your Challenge sketch a lot ~ and knowing how quickly you paint, you will probably be able to get it done before the deadline. Really looking forward to seeing how that turns out! Perhaps you can post your finished piece to this thread. :)

Thanks again for all your great feedback, it's tremendously rewarding to hear.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

hzoppetti
04-30-2006, 03:06 AM
Wow! All your works, even sketches are breathtaking! I cant believe I missed this thread till now. Beautiful just beautiful :bowdown:

Lyneran
05-02-2006, 03:09 AM
Very inspiring Zephyri! :bounce: and that rembrandt study is just beautiful!! btw, I also like Stephanie Law's style so I'm looking forward to your guitar player piece :thumbsup:

pushav
05-04-2006, 06:30 PM
Real nice work. Keep it up.:bounce:

Zephyri
05-26-2006, 01:41 AM
Time for another once in a blue moon update... :D I have a load of gestural studies I need to scan as well as these, but this is stuff worked on to date:

final version of the rembrandt copy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/rembrandt-copyfinal.jpg

study for an up coming piece for a competition based round a number that means something to me (the number is actually a time, which is why there are exploded clock bits in it)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/clock-idea.jpg

Some random no-ref anatomy practice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/demon-and-angel.jpg

Project no. 4328 *sarcasm*:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/capnlucearrrr.jpg

And my latest accomplishment in facial studies, all characters from my novel. An interesting challenge, as I have a habit of drawing the same facial features over and over, especially in my men.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/HTF-crew.jpg

And finally, a couple of WIP shots of a piece that is now actually almost done, a heavy photo reference used found here: original image (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26413495/):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/arachnid.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/arachnid2.jpg

Rebeccak
05-26-2006, 05:12 AM
Zeph,

Your OFDW piece is fantastic, and that last picture is really compelling, especially the face! One comment on the set of portraits is that in some of them, the faces seem a little bit long, but this might be part of the stylization. I'd suggest introducing a bit more of a pinkish tone into the skin color to liven it up a bit on just a few of them.

It's great to see your update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Azabache
05-26-2006, 11:16 AM
Hi there!!

I've seen your work and it's absolutely GREAT!! Really inspirational!! :thumbsup:

I'm looking forward to see more of you!!

Cheers!!

Azabache

Zephyri
05-26-2006, 02:28 PM
Hi Azabache, thanks, its wonderful as an artist to hear you inspire someone.

And Rebecca, dang, you're right... I'd not noticed that, but the more I look at them the more I think you've definitely got a good point. Maybe doing them to that kind of crop hasn't helped, as I may well have been subconsciously trying to fit in more than I should, but certainly looking at distances between say lower lid and mouth corner, there are more than one or two of them that seem disproportionally long. Something I shall certainly keep an eye out for when doing faces in the future. I'd also blame the fetish I have for long noses on men, as the nose tends to be my starting point for the other features of the face. Would you have any advice as to which point, once the skull has been defined loosely, is best for starting with facial features?

Trunks
05-26-2006, 03:05 PM
WOW man great work here! I like your images very much! The horny guy looked like a photo to me the first time!


Keep them coming!

Rebeccak
05-26-2006, 05:14 PM
Zeph,

I tend to start with the eye sockets once the overall mass of the skull has been defined, and mark the parallel lines of the major facial features ~ the brow, eyes, nose, ears, lips, chin. Once the eye sockets are situated it's then easier to locate the eyes within them. This isn't anything you don't know, just thought I'd reiterate it since you mentioned a methodology for going about arranging proportions. :) I definitely think your work completely shines when you are working from reference, and that your work from imagination would be even stronger if you might find reference from which to loosely base your imaginative characters. Tough to find reference, but I think the more master copies you paint and particularly draw, the more easily the imaginative characters will be to bring completely to life.

As always, it's great to see your work and hear your considered thoughts on your processes.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
05-27-2006, 10:57 AM
Zephyri
:) Hi ...SPIRIT WIND
Really like that color combination on the last one posted...man with horn...that burgandy
colored shirt...:thumbsup: ....see that color in your FANTASTIC Rembrant also.
Always a pleasure to see your imagination at work and play....:bounce: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

TheFirstAngel
06-08-2006, 09:59 PM
just subscribing and terribly upset to have missed this so long :S fanboy onboard :D

Jokinen
06-09-2006, 12:29 AM
Some really nice images here :) Keep up the good work!

-Juhani

Zephyri
06-19-2006, 05:28 PM
All quiet on the art scene for me lately, at least as far as personal stuff goes, which is annoying as I'd been revved up over the OFDW. Ah well.. it will be a project to finish when my current backlog is cleared. Had time to do a couple of quick digital sketches. I'd love any feedback on the anatomy of the trio of fae and the woman, as I want to turn that into a finished piece, and I'm working from a number of refs and my own head right now.

Fae trio sketch and a colour wip (I've since changed the left hand fae's head so it reads better as far as the face features go):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/clubs-diamonds-etc.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/waterfae.jpg

mermaids and merman:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/mermaids.jpg

DSG Sketch, "The Blind Warrior" done in 1hr 15mins:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/DSGFinal.jpg

current wip on a commission:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/willholm2lo.jpg

BNN
06-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Wow! I dig the portraits you did!!! Looks really fantastic!

Excellent stuff you have here!!!

I'm watching this thread! =D

SpiritDreamer
06-20-2006, 01:45 AM
Hi....Spirit Wind...:)

Been awhile since I checked out your thread....looks like you have been busy.
I really like that winged creature.....should look great when it is finished...almost has a cat looking face, but with human features....NICE....great pose also....I like the composition, has a
nice flow to it.
Really really like that composition with four figures in it....has the makeings of a great painting.
Not sure if the figure on viewers left is male or female...has female face, but parts of body looking a bit male at the moment....arm, hip and butt area. If it is female, then,... and this is just my personal thought here,...there should be more wavy sensuous curves defineing her hip,
butt, thigh, back, and arm.
I think that in this kind of complex composition, you can really benifet it , and add to the sensuousness of it by haveing a lot of wavey curves, intertwined, creating a wriggling motion...kind of like four snakes
winding around each other.
Bold opposeing curves, will really unite the composition...you might want to check out some
classical sculptures of group compositions....will give you a better idea of what I am trying to say.....Anyway I am really enjoying your thread and work in here, and just thought I would stop by and tell you so...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Zephyri
07-14-2006, 11:52 PM
BNN Thank you
Glenn thank you, the commission was going really well at that point! And as for the waterfae, tall but the one in the middle are male, and hopefully since then I've butched his features up a little!

Here's some updates and some sketchings:
Waterfae update:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/waterfae5.jpg

Merfolk update:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/album01/merfolk4.jpg
New piece started recently, need to fiddle with their proportions, my long leg fetish resurfacing:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/angelndemoness3.jpg

The finished commission:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/willholm-finallores.jpg

Beautiful finished piece (rejected from Epilogue second time rounf for being inappropriate after originally getting anatomy rejection)... would be curious to know people's thoughts on that:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Beautiful_by_Zephyri.jpg

Most recently finished digital piece, done with no ref at all.. so something is sinking in!:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/The_Royal_Fyre_by_Zephyri.jpg

Vampiric punk angel called Imp:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/impishgoodness.jpg

Zephyri
07-14-2006, 11:55 PM
And a few anatomical gestures, studies and doodles and a couple of the 50 heads in a month challenge:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/086RIETSCHELweb.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/carravgiono43christweb.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/hogarth.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/figurestudy.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/randomdoodles.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/handses.jpg

se7en-z3r0
07-15-2006, 03:33 AM
Sam you just rock, lets face it ; )

Beautiful - I personally think its great to see the "inapproriate" anatomy because you have almost hidden it. I supose they would reject a very real female nude if it showed even a hing of a certain special place too. The first time I saw this piece I was like wow this girls is tough, take no prisoners. Nothing to hide. I find it very refreshing. I think that art is about being true to yourself and to your inners demons and fantasies. Let it out baby. Thats the great stuff.

razz
07-15-2006, 08:15 AM
That "inappropriate" anatomy looks good to me, hehe. You really have to know anatomy in order to change it, make it the way you need it and still for it to look alive and correct in a way it needs to be. Amazing pieces here. I just got a blast of inspiration after watching these. I got to throw everything away and go create something :arteest: Keep on rocking, Zephyri!

SpiritDreamer
07-15-2006, 11:06 AM
Hi....SpiritWind.....:)

BEAUTIFUL work as always...I love that imagination of yours, and am always looking forward to
seeing where it takes me next....the colors on your no refference piece are FANTASTIC...:bounce:
Your bat winged creature is fit enough for Notre Dame...:applause:
Your rejection piece....must be a male thing :eek: ....probably feelings of inadequacy in the judges..LOL...:scream: .....plus that ancient double standard at work there,....if it were a female nude,
there probably wouldn't be a problem...:)
No mistakeing that figure you corected, as being male now....very sensuious theme and painting...GREAT job on it so far....how far are you planning on takeing that one..colorwise ect.
just curious.

Well....hope to see more great imaginings from you.....ALWAYS A PLEASURE...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
07-15-2006, 01:19 PM
Hey Zephyri,

lovely work on your anatomy thread and partially really sexy...erm...:eek: I mean sensual...:D


more of that, please...:scream:

Rebeccak
07-15-2006, 04:05 PM
Zeph,

An outstanding deposit of art! :applause: I personally find the 'inappropriate' piece to be one of your best ~ that image is so striking and well crafted, it really stays in your mind. It's too bad that judges will accept all things having to do with boobs, but as soon as a piece shows male genitalia, it's rejected. Sad, I think.

I'd like to comment on your other work in depth, and will when I get home. I personally love the Merfolk piece (have you considered entering the Atlantis Matte Painting Challenge?) and hope to see more development of that! :)

Keep inspiring! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Zephyri
07-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Thanks for the great feedback everyone,
Se7en thanks, and I would agree with you, seeing male nudity is refreshing in itself, as it's a much less appreciated form than the female. And being me, I'm not bashful about it in the slightest, and didn't think the piece was overtly sexual. A little on the erotic side, perhaps, but that was more due to the nature of the model.
razz Always a real pleasure to inspire someone, as that happens to me a lot.
Glenn thank you my friend, always a pleasure to have you here. And I was a bit disappointed that epilogue seemed to have so many different view points on the image. Socar Myles told me she had been about to give t the okay, and another mod rejected it first for anatomy, of all things, and now, having fixed the slightly off horn, it gets rejected for being inappropriate. Not to mention on of their moderators had to refer to the picture as having 'naughty bits'. *rolls eyes*
And the waterfae is on hold for the moment while i plough through commissions.
Mu Knowing me, there will alway be some work of sensuality on the cards, seems to be a recurring theme!
Rebecca Thanks! And I'd agree, if not my best to date. The discussion that went on in the Epilogue forums was quite interesting, as aside from one moderator, who took great offense when i explained I thought it was hypocritical of the site ot allow my to have a piece like Colours of the Wind in my gallery yet not allow that one in, everyone seemed to think the image was acceptable. And I've never done a matte painting, though I confess I'd like to have a go.

The epi thread is here, for the curious: http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17539&start=0

merfolk update:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/merfolk7.jpg

current watercolour project sketch and progress, referenced from http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32011071/:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Kanapencils.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/kannypants.jpg

And a new sketch that I'm kinda proud of, having been inspired by Hong Ly's photo and the rather lovely Bill Nighy as Davy Jones (can you tell I dont like feet? Next specialised area study to do):
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Deepwater_Touch_by_Zephyri.jpg

razz
07-28-2006, 11:43 AM
My oh my, you've done it again. So inspirational!! You're line-work is great, amazing sketches. Are you going to do the davy jones one in watercolor too? You know, it reminded me more than davy jones as he didn't have tentacles in place of his legs. Look at THIS (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/screengrabs/kll02/kll02_coverlg.jpg). That's what it reminded me. Jaw-dropping work, Zephyri! :drool:

SpiritDreamer
07-28-2006, 12:11 PM
Hi ...SpiritWind....:)

LOL.... JUST KEEP ROCKING that BOAT OF HYPOCRISY...someday a strong enough WIND, with the right SPIRIT, just might capsize that SHIP OF FOOLS....LOL....:scream:

That last design is great....really nice flow, with just the right amount of calm between the figures, to offset the motion....BEAUTIFUL...:thumbsup:

Your underwater scene is shapeing up ...GREAT.....wouldn't mind seeing a little more of that
golden color, like you have on the males tail fin...maybe on plants, rocks in forground ect.
Like the way it drags over the surface of the form....gives it that nice underwater sparkle.
Might use it as a unifying factor in your composition..just a thought..:shrug:

Love the line work on the sword figure...and your colors...well no other word can decribe them, other than...BEAUTIFUL....:)
GREAT WORKS AS ALWAYS, AND ALWAYS A GREAT PLEASURE TO SEE THEM ...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SulaMoon
07-28-2006, 03:00 PM
Wow! :applause:
Amazing work Zephyri, amazing! You just got yourself a new fan!

BNN
07-28-2006, 03:57 PM
Wow! :applause:
Amazing work Zephyri, amazing! You just got yourself a new fan!

I'm another one! haha! Great stuff!

Trunks
07-29-2006, 12:58 AM
Great work in here!
The merfolk faces are the craziest I could imagine ... but everything fits :) Good job :)

The watercolor sketch ... well I hate watercolor so I'll keep my mouth imidiately ... well... I'll stop my fingers typing ;)

STOP! Take back ... forgot something ... last sketch ... GREAT! I am looking forward to a colored version ... keep it up :) ... *nowfingersstop!*

se7en-z3r0
07-29-2006, 01:50 PM
Awesome Sam! You rock.

The merfolk work is obviosly not finished but it seams to need a more dominant focal point. Maybe a beam of sunlight can filter through from above and light one of the characters more or all three even. I just need something to focus the eye in the right place. That said I have complete faith in you Sam : )

The watercolor piece is crazy good. The Davy Jones pieces looks great too. Very dynamic with all of the tentacles. I think you should creaturify his face a bit more. Not maybe as much as they did in POTC, but some gills, suction cups small tentacle whiskers or something. The face just looks too nice right now. I think having your soul stolen and being forced to live under the sea for enternity would do a little more damage to the flesh and your general outlook. ; ) Can't wait to see how this piece progresses.

batte812
08-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Great figures, great poses, great faces; it's wonderful to see your work devellop here!

Intervain
08-05-2006, 09:57 PM
:bounce::bounce:love all your stuff! especially that watercolour :eek: Beautiful!

Rebeccak
08-06-2006, 12:56 PM
Zephyri,

Wow, simply so much stuff to look at! Great work! I really particularly enjoy this sketch:


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Deepwater_Touch_by_Zephyri.jpg

Keep it coming, Zeph! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Zephyri
08-22-2006, 11:31 PM
Thanks for all the wonderful comments everyone. Flying art drop while I work on commissions!

some more doodles and odds and sods from work of late!

The finished article of the octpus guy, done fairly quickly, but I rather like the result.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Deepwater_Touch___colour_by_Zephyri.jpg

A further two commissions from the same guy who asked for the gargoyle, bust shots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/wilholm-bust1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/willholm-bust-2.jpg

Clothed (*gasp*) sketches of a couple of the carnivorous fae brothers:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/duke.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/seraph.jpg

And random angel in good old pencil:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/angelness.jpg

Cyanid
08-23-2006, 12:51 AM
holy shoot! didnt see this thread before...totally wicked stuff. those seathings :love:
I like the clean pencils a lot too. shows really skill...what education did you got?

-cya

SulaMoon
08-23-2006, 12:53 AM
wow such nice design on the Angel clothing ^^
thanks for the inspiration!

Mu
08-23-2006, 08:04 AM
Clothed (*gasp*) sketches...


LMAO:scream:


I love the sketch with the woman and the squiddy character. What I especially found fascinating that there is not a sign of unrest there. They just seem like a relaxed loving couple. Absolutely enchanting.

Trunks
08-27-2006, 09:28 AM
Hi Zephyri,
this new stuff is very nice :)
I like the sketches most :)

Keep it up :)

Zephyri
10-04-2006, 03:13 AM
Thank you for the compliments guys! Keeps me inspired. And Cyanid, Im pretty much self taught... i did Art up to the age of 18, but nothing beyond that, and much of what i learnt at school was of little value (unless I get some odd urge to stick tissue paper on my work and splatter it with bleach). I've simply read everything I could get my hands on online and in book stores. And practiced!

Another glut upload from me. :D

Sketches for an oil painting commission(figure partly refed):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Deluna1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Deluna-v2lo.jpg

Sketch for another commission (figures partly refed):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/alec-and-amon.jpg
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/alecamonwip1.sized.jpg

Piratey fun (main figures refed from photos):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/lucearrr.jpg

Personal pieces (no refs for any of these):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/luckynumbers.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/painter-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/elgarmariusbw.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/luca.jpg

Zephyri
10-04-2006, 03:42 AM
and some more:

Fanart!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/fangirlingagain.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/yazoo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/kadaj.jpg

Collab with Angel/Sacha (TheFirstAngel):
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/Pass_6lo.sized.jpg

An illustration from a scene in my novel, inspired by the song "Open Your Eyes" by Snow Patrol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/nickntoni.jpg

Pieces inspired by the Golden Age of Illustration thread that Cris Palomino started in the 2D WIP forum, Leyendecker bros have themselves a brand new fan!:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/1920sillustrationpractice.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/muchainspired.jpg

And finally a few gestures and some very quick life drawings of my cat, as he's the only model who would sit within drawing distance...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/gestures.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/murphs.jpg

Cris-Palomino
10-04-2006, 03:48 AM
Hi, Sam.

Some lovely drawings...I really enjoy seeing you take them from your pencils to colored stage as well. I'm glad to see the Illustration thread have its effect and look forward to seeing you develop the Mucha-esque piece you started.

Cris

TheFirstAngel
10-04-2006, 04:21 AM
absolutely awesome, love the great characterdesings, the wonderfull feel for details such as the great flow of the mucha-esque piece, the beautifull ornamental designs and the elegance in your designs all over. hehe, besides i am very proud and happy to do this collab with you, looking at your works reminds me i should pencil a lil more again :)

beautifull and great works hun, always great to check back and getting inspired :love:

Zephyri
10-04-2006, 04:22 AM
Thanks Cris, that thread is a really huge inspiration to me, and has opened my eyes to a few things I'd not previously thought about.

And Sacha.. yes, yes you should do some pencil stuff.. i love your pencil stuff!

SpiritDreamer
10-04-2006, 09:31 AM
Hi.....SpiritWind....:)

What a great way to wake up,.seeing all your your beautiful works, while sipping my coffee:bounce:
I keep drifting back to the second one from the top..The battlefield...in a class of it's own.
It has an emotional presense about it....speaks to something worth saying, for me anyway.
BEAUTIFUL COMPOSITION AND HEART FELT FEELING....GREAT UNBEATABLE COMBINATION..:thumbsup:
As always, a real pleasure to see that imagination of yours at work...SpiritWind :)
Enjoying all of these, your latest
CREATIONS

TAKE CARE
Glenn

razz
10-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Oh yeah, that's what I needed. Inspiration! Your works are flowing with it. Very impressive. Saw the collab yesterday and now with all this other works...wow. This is not healthy for my jaw, but I can surely live with that :D The characters are looking alive, each with his own story. Amazing pencilwork in the piece with the angels. Oh I can go and on with compliments, but I'm sure get a lot of those.

Just to say, that you're an amazing artist and it makes me happy to see you back :bowdown:

Zephyri
12-07-2006, 10:21 PM
A Sam trademark dump and run... currently engrossed by the OFDW 20!

pencil things:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Untitled-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/pirates.jpg

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/feathers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Every_Waking_Moment.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Little_Mother_by_Zephyri.jpg


WIPS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/delwip3.jpg


The following one is a self portrait!
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/puppet8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/leightonlo.jpg

And finished things (strangely not as many of those... :rolleyes:):
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/alecamonlo.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-07-2006, 10:35 PM
SPIRIT WIND.....WOW.:bounce:

STUNNING WORK....BEAUTIFUL....ALL OF IT....:applause: :thumbsup: :applause:
You just keep getting BETTER...A REAL PLEASURE SEEING THESE...AS ALWAYS...:) :bounce:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

TheFirstAngel
12-08-2006, 02:28 AM
lovely post hun. and unbelievable what you get out of colorpencils and generally traditinal media, your skills never fail to amaze me. what can i say, looking forward to see your further progress on this, back from moving here too and so far took up the elves so i might get you more busy :p catch you online i hope, cheers

Rebeccak
12-08-2006, 03:54 AM
Heya Zeph,

Great to see your update, I'm always really impressed with the consistency and range of your work. :) I love the pencil drawing of the girl with the bones, I think that's outstanding. The self portrait too is really cool and I can't wait to see that finished. Great to see you back in the Workshop as well! :) As usual you're incredibly fast!

Cheers

NR43
12-08-2006, 05:21 AM
can't believe why I wasn't subscribed here yet...
anyway... fixed :D

wonderful work!

the angel (?) with the broken wings is my fav of these last...
can almost feel her pain :sad:

anandpg
12-08-2006, 06:58 AM
Holy cow!! why didnt I see this thread before?... awesome stuff here sam!! Inspiring!:bounce:

3dRaven
12-08-2006, 09:22 AM
Always a joy to drop by your thread Zephyri :) Nice style switching. Love the skin shading in one of the last pics (just before the pencil style sketch with the 2 guys)

Kallisti
12-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Hey Zeph, I really the drawing of the octopus humanoid in your portfolio, it's a good aesthetic.

Zephyri
01-14-2007, 07:32 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments, it keeps me inspired! Just a short drop this time, one finished piece that I'm quite pleased with!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/doodleness.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/heartbeatslo.jpg

razz
01-14-2007, 09:28 AM
That is with traditional media, right? Well, if not, it sure looks so :)
One thing I liked more in the pencil sketch than in the finished is that the girls face was turned away from the viewer. It conveyed some different emotions and gave a whole other feeling to the piece. We see the guys' face from 100% front and now the girls' face is from 100% side.
Other than that, an awesome fantasy piece :bounce:
And damn how I love your pencil drawings :drool:

Rebeccak
01-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Ooh, Zeph, beautiful piece - the rendering of the wings and cloak especially! :) The shimmering quality to his wings is especially nice - I think this would look even more spectacular if done digitally! Great stuff as usual from you. :)

Hazaeon
01-14-2007, 07:47 PM
Very inspiring! Some of my favourites are the gestures sketches in really streched positions, It looks like alot of fun. Gonna go draw.
I will keep checking back.

Zephyri
01-17-2007, 10:35 PM
O.o how odd... it just ate my post before I'd even hit submit. Oh well.. retype all that then!

Just adding a couple more odds and ends before I go sate my need to do some figurative doodling... this place is so inspiring!

A commission from The Hospitaller Order of Saint John of God, the patron of the English province, Saint Bede, who wrote the Ecclesiastical History of the English People. Used this stock shot (http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1371149) as a starting point (puchased legally!), and various pics of beards.
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/stbedelo.jpg

Commission of a mercenary for an author, used ref provided:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/Frederick_by_Zephyri.jpg

Practice at eyeballing with one of the sexiest actors on the small screen here in the UK, as I suspect I'm growing too reliant on grids:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/trevoreve.sized.jpg

And as I was using it as example in another thread, I thought I'd post it here, though its about 6 years old, back when all I painted were big cats.
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/tigger.jpg

And doodles and roughs:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/webby.sized.jpg
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/alejandro.sized.jpg
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/alejandrocolour.jpg

Zephyri
01-17-2007, 11:05 PM
Thanks for the comments guys... Razz, yeah, i forgot to mention it's my favourite media, coloured pencils. And I know what you mean about the head positioning, but my main objective was to have them physically close, having her head turned inward like that would have opened up a gap and made her seem less part of him. The title of the piece was "Hearts Beat" and there was a three line poem:
"Why should it matter whether
or not we are together
When our hearts beat as one"

So the idea was to give them a sense of being one being. If that makes sense. I'm probably rambling now. I'll shut up.

And Rebecca, I'm not so sure on the digital front. If I'd have had any reference, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but my works seem to fall down in digital when I work without reference, whereas with pencils in particular I seem to grasp shapes and mass much better through building up layer upon layer of colour. Something I've yet to master digitally.

aggie93
01-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Love to see your work Sam. You have post some great stuff here.

Intervain
01-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Sam WOW your thread is so inspiring! Beautiful stuff!

and ooohhh... so totally agree about Trevor Eve *fangirl squee* Gosh I miss the BBC... You made me want to watch Waking the Dead badly ;)

Rebeccak
01-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Wow, the tiger is fantastic and it amazes me how much work you do. I know completely what you mean about the digital / traditional thing, there is definitely intelligence in the hand that just gets missed a bit when one is drawing digitally (don't I know it) and it's very true that working traditionally allows you to 'think' more with your hands. I think it's quite nice to see your mix of traditional and digital. Especially since both areas are quite strong and seem to be continually improving. Thanks for all your activity around the forum, I find I learn quite a lot from your posts. :)

Zephyri
01-17-2007, 11:49 PM
Thanks Aggie!

Intervain: isn't he? There's a new series of WtD on at the minute, which is what inspired me to try painting him, aside from trying to beat painter into submission. Damned program.

Rebecca: Thanks! The good old big cat days. I can still pretty much draw tigers without reference, not that well, but enough to fool those who aren't too familiar with them! And much as I love digital and the possibilities for learning it offers, I struggle to get a feel for things sometimes, and I'm trying to find ways to emulate the way I paint and colour in traditional with digital, so I can find that elusive 'texture' element that seems to be missing from a lot of my works. It's also a big compliment that you would learn things from my posting in the forums, as much of what i'm relaying is what I've learned here. That and I honestly feel guilty if I post my own work without at least contributing to others!

SylvanMist
01-18-2007, 12:18 AM
wow..I love, LOVE your pencil drawings! Especially those pirate guys..hehehe, they just all look amazing, nothing else to say really :)

SpiritDreamer
01-18-2007, 01:45 AM
Hi...Spirit Wind...:)

Never know what kind of magic that WARM BREEZE will leave behind
Only know that I can ALWAYS count on ALWAYS being LEFT AMAZED
and DASED..:)

BEAUTIFUL WORKS AS ALWAYS...ALL OF THEM...:thumbsup: :applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

anandpg
01-18-2007, 02:36 AM
Awesome work again, Sam!:applause:

NR43
01-18-2007, 07:03 AM
I think it's wonderful that such talented and experienced artists like you take the time to comment on the threads of the less experienced ones :)
so big thanks to you Sam

I love what you did with the old man's skin in particular.
And that tiger is indeed really beautiful

Take care,
43

Mu
01-18-2007, 08:58 AM
Zeph,


what amazes me is how you always manage to set up the poses of your characters so they look like they're really sharing an intimate moment (as opposed to just being two animate corpses put together. I find I get this other impression quite often when I look at compositions esp. in the fantasy realm... )

Quite unique.

Zephyri
01-23-2007, 03:52 AM
Roja: Thank you, the pirate one on the other page is one of my faves too... looking forward to doing more art with those two.

Glen: thank you, always appreciate your comments. Always a pleasure to have you drop by.

anandpg: thank you!

NR43: ahaha it makes me blush royally when people say that about my work. It seems only fair I find the time to contribute to other's threads when people are posting on mine.
I only regret I can't find more time, there's some lovely work in these threads.

Mu: Thank you, thats a great compliment, as it's something that really bothers me, and I'm happy you think it works here.

And here's a few more odds and ends:
A christmas gift for a friend, done in the library while waiting for my car to be fixed: http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/thefalconerlo.jpg
inspired by a couple of songs by Stone Sour -the two main protagonists from my novel. The pose was put together with the help of the stock of Lockstock on deviant, and our very own Ben. So thanks Ben!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/htf-through-the-glass.jpg
More Golden Age of Illustraion inspired stuff, with a fantasy twist:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/Luce_GAOI_Leyendeckerlo.jpg
This one was something of a weird blip, paying attention to my muse at 5am can produce odd results, a fusing of Scar from the lion King and Kain, from the video game Soul Reaver series:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/scarkain.sized.jpg
And other random doodles:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/gryph.jpg
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/chriskreiger.sized.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/gestures4.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/handies.jpg

Intervain
01-23-2007, 04:08 AM
OOH awesome stuff again Sam! I love the golden age inspired illustration!:bounce:

kary
01-23-2007, 04:30 AM
Tremendous stuff... your gestures4.jpg looks very effortless, and you capture the gesture and the 3dimensional form of the figure at the same time. Your finished stuff is really something, I can really only give a nod as an appreciative audience member :)

Rebeccak
01-23-2007, 05:00 AM
Ooh, really nice touch with the Scar and falcon sketches especially. :) To be nitpicky - sometimes the characters are a bit leg heavy / seem to grow larger in their lower halves - but that's something subjective / easily amendable when working digitally. Really can't wait to see your next finished illustration. :)

Zephyri
01-23-2007, 05:03 AM
Thanks Kary and Intervain!
And Rebecca, it's something I've done for the longest time, especially when not working from a direct reference, and even with anatomy studies, it's proving to be a hard habit to break. And it only tends to be afterwards that I notice, annoyingly. Same with making heads a little too small a lot of the time too. Thank goodness for the power of photoshop, is all I can say. I guess I'll have to go back to doing some good old studies for proportions.

Rebeccak
01-23-2007, 05:13 AM
Zeph, I am completely reliant on PS to fix my proportions now! :D I also make my figures huge / heroic haha and with massive butts and thunder thighs - god knows why, but we all have our drawing habits, which are totally subconcious and thus hard to get rid of, even if we wanted to. :) I wasn't critiquing so much as observing, heh, for myself I find it extremely difficult to nail proportions, I thank my stars everyday for PS and Ctrl Z. The one method I need to really try more is Anthony Ryder's blocking in method, where he blocks the whole outline of the figure in first before adding details to the figure. It's brilliantly simple, but I've just developed a totally different method of drawing so it was a revelation when I read about his method in his book. Must remember to do that more often heh!

Cheers! :)

batte812
01-23-2007, 10:02 AM
Very inspiring thread here! I really like the mood in your work. Especially the two guys drinking at the table. Great craftmanship to with lots of different mediums. Thanks for sharing and thanks for visiting my sketchbook!

razz
01-23-2007, 05:22 PM
Very well spent time while waiting for the car to be fixed, hehe :thumbsup: Other stuff are just great-looking too. Especially the Golden Age of Illustration inspired one. And the gestures! I'm trying to draw gestures from imagination now myself and it's interesting to see how others go on with showing the form with just few lines.
Learning stuff by looking at your work, Zephyri. Keep teaching :)

Trunks
01-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Hi Zephyri!
Very nice new works! Your way of sketching characters is just great :D You did a very good job, keep at it! I am looking forward to which one you are going to color ;)

wasker
01-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Very nice, Zephyri. Great anatomy and those pirates are just lovely. I don't know what to crit so I'll make something up; draw more animals :D

Zephyri
01-24-2007, 02:28 AM
Rebecca: Hehehe.. I'm thinking maybe I was a voodoo headshrinker with a complex about being short in a past life.
batte812: you're welcome, and thank you for the kind words.
razz: I find it hard to believe you're having trouble with lines after all those gorgeous bridgman copies! And if you manage to learn anythign from this haphazard collection of stuff I assure you that was far from due to my wanting to teach... eheheh.
Trunks: thanks! The current one on the digital platter is the nude couple curled round each other.
Wasker: Ahahahah *giggles* I forgot to mention on your thread that I found your little notes on your drawings funny. I used to do that with old drawings. Made them bearable to look at.

I'm going to try something with this piece that i've not managed to date, and thats post wips as I go along, so I can get ongoing crits, and give others a look at my roundabout methods. it might actually help me finish something in one go too, and if it works, I'll write up a proper tutorial/walkthrough.

So I went back to the nude couple curled round each other, and fixed a couple of anatomical bugs. Thos voodoo headshrinker vibes were playing up again, so made the heads bigger and tweaked expressions. And the perspective on the female's right leg was off, making it look like they'd fallen from a great height and smooshed it, so changed that to match his.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/htfwip.jpg

And then here are my first few steps of painting:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/htfwip1-1.gif
The figures were blocked in with a custom brush that looks like very uniform set of smaller 'rake marks' that follow the direction of the stroke, with my colour palette and atmosphere/background plonked in on a seperate layer. I'm just looking for some background noise for when i paint over them properly... this is the first time I've tried this method, we shall see if it works!
Once the figures were roughly blocked in, I erased most of the pinkish colour to leave the graphic element of the blood against the white. One of those things that makes a drastic difference to how colours are shown.
Realising the figures would then be far too pinky, I adjusted the layer the figured were painted on in the levels panel in RGB until I got something that looked more skintoneish against the red (ie, greener, to counteract the red). Also tweaked the white and black points (the highlights and shadows) over all. During this I keep squinting at the piece to try to get a feel of how the colours are working suggestively - if it still looks like it could be real figures when blurry and small. Other people zoom in and out of the work to check this, I'm just lazy and traditionally trained.
the white at this point was beginning to bother me a little, but not enough for a drastic change, so I try out inversing it to black, and then a gradient of both. Currently I'm fond of the white fade into grey, as it looks like a spotlight on them, which works well with the idea I had in the first place.

Phew. Can't say whether I'll do every step like this... unless it's helpful. Let me know if you'd like full fledged explanations of stuff.

Rebeccak
01-24-2007, 05:35 AM
Heya Zeph,

Really looking forward to following this painting! :) The proportions are looking really good, glad you avoided the voodoo headshrinker syndrome, lol! :D Great stuff!

Rebeccak
01-24-2007, 06:24 PM
Oh, and congrats on the ImagineFX feature! Just saw that today, we get the magazine a month behind the UK of course. :) Great to see you get the attention you deserve! I hope they'll be featuring much more of your work.

Cheers! :)

Zephyri
01-25-2007, 01:14 AM
Thanks Rebecca! I'm a bit disappointed the print seems to have wiped out a lot of the detail and gone a little funky on the saturation, but it's a real buzz to have my work in print! I most likely need to check my monitor and PS settings.

And an update, as I'm in my flying first stages of the painting.. (ie, my favourite bit).

current state:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/wip2.jpg

Changed the colour again, as opening the document it just still seemed overly pink and cold. And also played around with some variations in the background hue, too, as to me it's important to get stuff like that sorted earlier, then there's less chance I have to change a whole lot later if I'm not happy with it. Especially as I use the background colour as a frequent sample point to add colours to other things. Added in some blues to make the shadows on the male's back make sense too. Warmed up the skin tones with more yellows.

Here's how this looks at about 66%:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/nickcloseup.jpg
The rougher strokes on the female body are the ones I put down first, which I'm now going over with a much smaller, spackled brush with a touch of texture to it, in all directions, trying to smooth out the transitions between light and dark.

I'm also working on the head on a seperate, bigger file, so i can get the nuances with the emotions right, working in the same fashion as the body :

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/faces.jpg

Currently no references as he's my own character I want the basics to be mine before I hunt for some references to nail the smaller details and changes in planes. I'll start to add darker shadows once I'm happy with general colours and shapes. Looking at it now i'm noticing his jaw seems a bit too square... shall have to change that!

SpiritDreamer
01-25-2007, 02:08 AM
Hi...Spirit Wind...:)

Just stopping by to say Hi, and to see what kind of new magic you've pulled out of your sleeve..:)
Was just wondering which piece you had problems with in the printing process,..was it the one with the blues in the wings of the embracing couple....just curious..:)
I used to work for a printing company that did posters and cards mostly, years ago, as an apprentice..only lasted a couple of years, I couldn't take the fumes from the solvents and inks ect. I worked on a big six color press, made in germany..big monter of a machine..:scream:
But anyway, the thing that I remember was that the color blue can be really hard to match from the original work of art, to the final printed piece.
Takes a real seasoned printer to get it just right. the guy that I worked under, had been a printer for nearly fifty years, and he would always be pulling his hair out, trying to get a match to the original in the blue areas of the original..he was the only one out of five printers in the place that could get a match to the original color in most cases.
Not even sure if that is the piece, or problem that you are referring to in your post above, in your response to Rebecca, but just thought it worth mentioning..might help you in planning your future prints..don't know, but just thought about it, and thought I would tell you, just in case it can be of any help..:)
Your work is BEAUTIFUL as always...what is the story to that last piece, if it has one...again, just curious..:)
Looking forward to seeing it's progress..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Zephyri
01-25-2007, 02:27 AM
Your replies are always so insightful Glenn.. I hadn't thought of that, though having worked closely with printers as a designer, I do know that blues can be hellish to print, even as a spot colour... and the piece that went a bit haywire was the underwater merfolk piece, so it starts to make more sense! Especially as it was quite saturated in the first place. I shall have to bear that in mind should I send them anything more.

And the image itself is mostly metaphorical, those two characters are from my novel, and spend the vast majority of it at odds with one another, until the end, when, under extreme circumstances, they find more than a little mutual respect and feeling for one another. By then, though, they're both stripped of everything that mattered to them aside from one another and the disc the woman is holding in her hand. The blood is a metaphor for the violence they've both had to endure; the fact they're naked that they've very little left; and hopefully the pose speaks for itself. The guy holds a gun as he's an uncanny marksman and it's the only thing he has confidence in himself for, and the bullet on the chain is one he almost shot his father with, and kept it as a momento not to over rely on his gift. With over 700 written pages plus whatever I added when I typed it up and edited it, there's a lot more to it, but it's an attempt to sum up the relationship between the two characters by the end of the book.

pushav
01-25-2007, 05:13 AM
I like your latest work so far. It should turn out great. Keep it up.

NR43
01-25-2007, 05:21 AM
Aha!
Now I understand the expression on their face much better.
I was wondering why exactly they were looking unsure, a bit desperate yet with a sprankle of hope everything will be allright as long as they stick together...
So thanks for sharing that story Sam :)

I think you've got yourself a really strong piece in the making

Also, the other sketches are really nice and it's great to see some gestures, hand studies among these drawings from imagination.
(I hope in a year or so my basic knowledge will be strong enough to be able to pull of something good from imagination as well... must keep working...)

Really looking forward to see the last one develop!

Samanthie
01-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Hi Sam, I am just amazed at your art. This is the second time I've looked through your sketchbook. You have an eye for detail! Very inspiring. Thanks for sharing with this latest piece how you work (the strokes and the blending).
Also thank you so much for stopping by my thread and for the comments you left on my latest piece, very encouraging.:)

Cernew
01-25-2007, 03:43 PM
Very nice sketchbook! Are all you digital pieces done in Photoshop?

Trunks
01-25-2007, 06:38 PM
Hi Zephyri,
GREAT work on this one! I like the way you painted the texture! Looks very nice :)
Also there is a nice storytelling in this piece ... GREAT work again!
Keep it up :)

aggie93
01-25-2007, 07:47 PM
Cool little piece you got going there Sam. Without reading what it is about, the first thought in my head was a modern Romeo and Juliet scene.

Zephyri
01-26-2007, 04:28 AM
Pushav: thank you! I shall try!
NR43: glad it makes more sense... I never know how much to explain, and how much to leave to people's imaginations. And if you're looking at improving, go take a look at my improvement in the thread that's stickied in this forum. It should give you an idea of how quickly you can improve by drawing constantly and accepting critique. I honestly wouldn't be where I am if it wasn't for forums like this. And with probably the exception of the angel/demon piece, most of my pieces have some form of reference in them, be it poses or bits of faces, or lighting. I've accepted while working without them at all is a good exercise, my work is undoubtedly much better when I use them.
Samanthie: Aw, thanks! And you're welcome, I really love that lastest piece of yours, hope to see you take it all the way!
Cernew: probably 90% of them are, yes. I'm trying desperately to make friends with Painter again, since I started out with that originally but gave it up for the precision I can get in PS. It appears the program never forgave me for it. :D
Trunks: thanks!
Aggie: cheers m'dear. And I can definitely see why you'd think that, and i'd bet you're not alone either! It would work, just about, as a romeo and juliet scene, with a bit of artistic interpretation!

Here's an update on the face:

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/nickface.jpg

With the texture option checked in the brush options pallette, this spackled brush is working nicely for a base stubble texture too! This is one of the reasons I love the possibilities of digital art, so much to learn. I've also turned to various references at this point, too, including these, from deviant's stock resources: portrait 1 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39932177/) portrait 2 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43468630) portrait 3 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/31966996) and a couple from getty images. All the skin has been done with the spackled brush and a teensy teensy bit of smudging to get colours to blend. I've also upsized the original file as I like the heads that much, so I now have a 7000 pixel long image file. Thank god I have the G5 and not my little imac anymore!

And here's an example of the work I'll be doing over the next two weeks, a hybrid chibi-cum-caricature of the monks who make up the Hospitaller Order of Saint John of God, who I did the Saint Bede picture on the last page for, i think there will be about twelve in total, done in watercolour on board. With picture for comparison (and so i can roll my eyes at how stuff is off... ) :
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/donatus.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/donatuspic.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-26-2007, 05:10 AM
Hi...Spirit Wind...:)

A real pleasure seeing you take it to a higher level of emotion in those faces of the couple...that INNER THOUGHT AND EMOTION you are going for, is really starting to shine through...BEAUTIFUL WORK..:thumbsup:
Your little monk guy is a pretty good likeness I think..:thumbsup:
Looking forward to seeing more detail shots as you progress with that couple....I like the story behind it too...thought it must have been along
those lines, when I first saw it,...was just curious to see if I was corect.:)
Anyway...just wanted to tell you that your thread and the work in it is always an inspiration to me....:) THANK YOU.....Spirit Wind :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
01-26-2007, 05:26 AM
how quickly you can improve by drawing constantly and accepting critique. I honestly wouldn't be where I am if it wasn't for forums like this.

I couldn't agree with you more. In school, for example, there are only 2 of my class that draw outside class. Can you believe that huh? I can't... I'm hooked... and I'm sure in 10 years time I will still be visiting these forums and I will still be looking to improve.
I think the worst thing that can happen now is my arm falling off lol (and even then... I once saw a docu on someone who was parallized for 90% and painted wonderful things by keeping his brush in his mouth, which was given to him by someone standing next to the bed.)

The hardest part I think is trying not to rush... not wanting to learn too much at once... took me a while to figure that out :)

Anyway,
couldn't describe my thoughts on your latest better than Glenn so I will just sit back and enjoy the view :)

SirRon
01-26-2007, 06:28 AM
Fantastic work! I see what you mean about having a tendency to draw longer legs than usual though. I think I'd rather have that than having a longer spine like what I do. Hope we'll find the happy medium eventually :)

I know what you mean about trying to be friends with Painter. I haven't had much luck with that either.

Kosmaty
01-26-2007, 10:57 AM
hahaha i love that monk guy :D keep on going! I cant wait to see more of these!

anandpg
01-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Hey Sam! your painting is coming along beautifully...!!:bounce:eager to see how it turns out!!... The monk caricature is really cute!

Amerasu
01-26-2007, 01:35 PM
Your work is so inspiring! Thanks so much for sharing it. You have some gorgeous pieces here and your sketches are just wonderful.

I love the couple image you're working on. It's very beautiful already and I can't wait to see it finished. And the little monk guy is so cute! Great likeness too; a really good caricature.

I'll be back often!

TheFirstAngel
01-26-2007, 10:21 PM
kick ass piece hunny, loving it to its last single pixel. stunningly thrilling composition, calmity and violence in such a sexy, emotional impacting and yet highly esthetical way. pure awesomeness :love:

Zephyri
01-27-2007, 03:40 AM
Glenn: thank you, it's wonderful when people say I inspire them, and very much so in your case, your work inspires me greatly too. Sounds like a good partnership to me! :D
NR43: The hardest part I think is trying not to rush... not wanting to learn too much at once... ahaha, I honestly don't think I've got the hang of that one yet... i was even trying to animate the other day. Whooole different ball game, but one I'd dearly love to develop my skills in. I think the hardest thing for me was accepting that it was okay if a drawing was bad, or even if I had a whole run of bad drawings. It's great now to be able to lay them aside and not get frustrated, simply learn what i can from them.
Sirron: hopefully, we'll both even ourselves out. And good luck with painter!
Kosmaty: Thanks! Don't think I'll post all the monks, but maybe one or two of the better ones.
Anandpg: thanks m'dearr. It's still feeling good!
Amerasu: Like I said to Glenn, it's wonderfully humbling and exciting when people say my work is inspiring, as I get so much inspiration myself, it's nice to know I might be doing that for someone else! And thank you for the kind words.
Sacha: thanks hun! Still working on getting my women to your sexy standards... lol! *prods* now stop staring at my art and go finish your own!

Updates:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/nicktoni3.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/faceswip2.jpg

Worked extensively on the female's face now, again looking up images once I felt like I'd gone as far as I could on my own. I either do it that way round, or start with reference, and once the basics are down, go it alone. There's still alot to do, smoothing things off, and adding the little details here and there like freckles, texture, that kind of thing. This way I don't slavishly rely on reference too much for the bits that are personal to me, like facial features and expressions, but I can still capture the little things that you inevitably miss if you're going off memory alone. Also started to add in some rough background elements, to make sure the image is still working as a whole - it can draw you into details so much you lose sight of the overall, so it's important to keep checking that. I also flipped it and aside from adding some more blood to balance the right hand side, everything looked pretty much okay, which almost never happens!

I'm trying to keep the skin tones slightly different, the female consisting of lightish pink highlights, muddy pink midtones and blueish-green shadows mostly, and the male being more saturated, yellowy highlights, sandy to peachy midtones, and shadows that range from almost sap green to sienna, to dark umber (spot the traditional painter here...), so that when the image is finished, the two figures should still be easily readable against one another, rather than looking like one mass of flesh and limbs. One thing the rembrandy copy I did taught me was that it's important to define edges. This doesn't mean drawing dark lines round everything, but shading dark, against light. Even at the parts of the bodies that are close, and similarly lit, the edge of one limb will taper ever so slightly off into a blended shadow. It is this that give roundness to the figure, and it's important to pay attention to blending it, rather than simply drawing a darker line around something that isn't standing out.

Another animated gif, so you can see how I flit about the image, changing odds and ends, trying things and removing them in the case of the extra blood and marks, because it was getting too busy, detracting from the couple.:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/wipshots2.gif

Wongedan
01-27-2007, 06:03 AM
oh man, very nice natural touch!

anandpg
01-27-2007, 06:24 AM
oh!:eek: beautiful!

Rebeccak
01-27-2007, 03:41 PM
Very nice so far, can't offer many crits at this point since I'm sure all is in flux - but definitely looking forward to seeing further iterations of this, and thank you for the gif! Incidentally, what kind of surface will they be placed on? :)

Trunks
01-28-2007, 04:56 PM
Hi Zephyri!
Nice work on this piece ... it's really great! I am sure you will kick this to ultra-hyper-awesome :D Keep it going :D

wasker
01-28-2007, 07:54 PM
Sweet man, I dig that you use a gif to show us the steps :) it's fun to see how other's do it and what they decide to change. Really good pick of skin colors aswell.

crits:

- His right foot is extremly small compared to his left. Same goes for her right foot.

- What's up with the background? Is it a floor or are the characters 'pasted' to a wall? The bullet holes indicate they're on a wall unless someone stod directly above them and fired down in a straight angle. Maybe I'm being picky, but consider how bullets travel and how they hit surfaces. They would probably be more elipse or triangular depending on the density of the floor (for example marble gets triangular marks and wood would get more elipse shaped).

Anyway, it's a great picture and I'm looking forward to see it finished. :thumbsup:

rasmusW
01-29-2007, 08:13 AM
hey sam!

nice sketchbook you've got here.
really like your last one. seems you've made a really nice "empty" look in their eyes. which actually can be quite hard to do propperly, without looking goofy (-imo).

-r

Cyanid
01-29-2007, 09:05 AM
wow great job!
I love the skintones...the blue hues on the shadowpart are really good, they make the painting interesting.
Really good anatomy...did you use any reference for the guy?
I'd say, finish it and get a frontpageplug ;)

nelchee
01-31-2007, 06:46 PM
Hi,
I've seen some of your work at DA long time ago (I remember the portrait of you with the Devil, and your sister with Death). I love how you do various styles. I love experimenting myself. Keep it up, this whole thread is amazing and so inspiring.

SylvanMist
02-01-2007, 12:15 AM
that last one is just awesome..i love it! And that guy is pretty hot :D

Iridyse
02-01-2007, 06:07 AM
I've been a long time lurker in your thread. Just wanted to tell you how beautiful and inspiring your art is. I would have posted earlier, but I'm a little shy around the artists I admire :)

Kyena
02-01-2007, 08:40 PM
Sam, terrific colours!

Zephyri
02-02-2007, 03:56 AM
Work has been inevitably stopping me from getting as much of this done as I would like, but I've still managed to steal a couple of hours here and there to work on it.


xvampire: thank you... i think this might be the first piece I've done that really has that natural touch to it, I'm quite happy with it!
Anandpg: thank you!
Rebecca: thank you, and by all means, should you see something you think looks off, feel free to say. And as for surface, not quite decided yet. Originally I'd thought glass, more for its symbolic connotations, but steel would work nicely too, as it's literally pertinent to the storyline, and to have them lying on shattered steel would mean their impact had to be huge. I'll probably paint and see what it ends up looking like.
Trunks: thanks! And I'm aiming for a sort of painterly ish feel for it, so no hyper realism, but still a good deal!
Wasker: Good call on the foot, I think his lower foot needs to be bigger. Though both of their smaller feet are actually tucked up behind his other leg... like this: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28998417 - which is one of the refs I'm using for the male, which is probably why they look small. Hopefully more rendering will sort that out.
As for the crit on the bullets, I know a bit about weapons ballistics from having read up on it as research for the novel these two come from, and as it stands, the bullet holes aren't realistically placed, unless, as you say, they were hung on a wall! However, the piece is meant to be symbolic of the two characters and their relationship and the hardships they've both endured. So everything is chosen for its symbolic nature, rather than how realistic is it. I'm also going for a more graphic feel over all, with the shape of the blood pool, the bullets, guns and holes, so they're head on simply cause they're more graphic that way. But had it been realism, you'd have been absolutey right.
abyss103: Thank you! That look kinda happened in the early stages of painting by accident, I'd planned more emotion than that, but when it happened, I stuck with it! Happy accidents, as the wonderful Bob Ross would say.
Cyanid: thanks! And yes, the model I used is actually Ben, who offers his services here, one of the images is in my reply to wasker. And I'm using lockstock's images and a couple of my own shots as ref for the female. Faces are pretty much made up though. And ahahah as sad as it is, I made that my goal when I joined this site,so awesome was the work that graced it... not sure whether this is, but if not this one, I'll keep working!
Nelchee: hey! Nice to have da fans here too, yeah that portrait with my sister remains my most popular. Pretty girls and gruesome beasties always popular! And thanks, always a joy to hear I inspire.
Roja: *grins* thanks! And as my main good guy, he couldn't be anything else... though the lead bad guy gives him a solid run for his money, I have to say... I love my creations...
Shreya: aw, no need to be shy, especially as your work has been a real inspiration to me too, the piece you got into Exotique 2 has always amazed me since i came across it in the wip thread, and I've been trying for that liquid skin tone you achieved there ever since! Not sure I'm there though... :/
Tascha: Thank you! That's a very big compliment coming from you. And I have to say thanks... when you left that reply about shadows on my dA page... something just slotted into place... it was very strange, and thats what I've been experimenting with here. So you're kinda responsible!

Aaand here's the update and gif:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/nicktoniwip4.jpg
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/wipshots3.gif

This is mainly a continuation of the refining process with the brush work, and trying to get the light to be read uniformally across the whole thing, so that areas close together share similar ambient light, that shadows have similar colouring etc etc. A couple of changes made to anatomy, mainly in the woman's hand/arm which was a bit on the long side, and the guy's bottom leg, which was a bit short in comparison to his other. Also made his foot a little larger as per Wasker's suggestion. I realised that the reference I was using for the woman wasn't matching up too well to the way I'd been painting, mainly due to the fact I'd made her face deliberately lighter than the reference pointed to it being. (the main reference I'm using for the woman is the top middle shot of this pack: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27256310/ by Lockstock). The image wasn't great at revealing detail in the shoulder area I needed to lighten up, and rather than guess I took my own shots using a tripod. Some of the lighting I'm guessing at, though, even with my own reference. It's a question of finding the balance between accuracy and what looks good with the image.

Also hunted down some reference of Sig Sauer handguns, and painted those in loosely, taking care to make sure the highlights in the silver metal, and even in the matt black reflected the surroundings. For example, the highlight on the spent gun in the bottom left is sampled from the very bottom corner of the painting and brushed on lightly.

And something I discovered while painting in the earrings was that metal is much much easier to paint if you leave the bright highlights til absolute last. Work in subtle changes of darker, less saturated hues for the body of the metal item, add in a couple of streaks of more saturated mid-lights and then a dot or two of very bright highlights on top of the saturated mid-lights, usually with a tint of the ambient light colour in them. Probably very obvious to those who already do it that way, but i used to go from mid tone and do shadows and highlights at the same time, which didn't work as well. *dur*

Zephyri
02-02-2007, 04:07 AM
And here are two other quicker works done in between. I found a fellow deviant with a love of the silver foxes, who had this awesome original character, called Alex the One Eyed. About 3 hours from start to finish, photoshop colouring over a pencil sketch, and photo-manipped background.
Affectionately titled: I'll show you old, kiddo..."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/Ill_give_you_old__kiddo.jpg

And another sketch for Michael A. Laflamme's novel, Blacksent. This time the assassin, Vrus. Who is not all he seems to be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/vrus.jpg

Used the blocking in the silhouette method for both these pieces, as I used a photo ref for both and expanded on it, and am really surprised with how well the method works, especially as it seems to make it much cleaer when proportions are off.

Trunks
02-02-2007, 10:33 AM
Hi Zephyri!

I like the assasin piece a lot :) Very nice style and it's cool you draw a background for him. Maybe next time detail the background a little less but do some more lines to show more of the background (like some buildings). This way the spring does not seem to be directly besides the character.
Nice drapery by the way :)

Keep it going :)

Samanthie
02-02-2007, 01:08 PM
Hi Sam, One eyed is also quite a character, worthy of his name.:D I'm looking forward to seeing assasin develop. I noticed you do excellent clothing sketches. Do you do all of them from your imagination?

SpiritDreamer
02-02-2007, 02:10 PM
Hi...Spirit Wind....:)

Read you are thinking of going to a life class....DO IT...:scream:
Takes me an hour and a half each way to mine, but feels SO GOOD to get my hands dirty, and to stretch out my arm for a change. Makes every minute of the ride to and from there worth it...plus as you say, it is nice to be able to interact, OR IS IT INTEREACT..:scream: with the teacher and other classmates, in the REAL WORLD..:bounce: :)

Like those last two you posted by the way...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Salubri3i
02-03-2007, 02:52 AM
i'm subscribing to this wonderful thread! :D

Zephyri
02-03-2007, 04:51 AM
Trunks: Hey, and thanks for the advice! Trying not to go hugely detailed on the backgrounds, but I like the idea of lessening the detail! will try that next time!
Samanthie: Thanks, and isn't he? A great character from what was a fab gallery. In the case of the pencil sketches for Michael, i follow references quite closely, but i'll add overlays or trinkets, so it's something original.
Glenn: Yes, definitely becoming more of a possibility, even more so having seen the results in your thread!
Salubri3i: aw, cheers! Appreciate it.

Quick addition for tonight, a 4 hour watercolour thats 3 inches x 8.5 inches. Another incarnation of my alter ego, zephyri.
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/AIR.jpg

Rebeccak
02-03-2007, 04:54 PM
thank you, and by all means, should you see something you think looks off, feel free to say. And as for surface, not quite decided yet. Originally I'd thought glass, more for its symbolic connotations, but steel would work nicely too, as it's literally pertinent to the storyline, and to have them lying on shattered steel would mean their impact had to be huge. I'll probably paint and see what it ends up looking like.
Heya Zeph, np, great to see you so active around here! :) Hmm, steel would def. be interesting, color wise maybe you wouldn't want it to be too cool...can see a nice shadow cast over it though that could break up the space...just thinking out loud. :) One thing that seems a bit off is his right forearm / hand - the forearm seems to have another joint there and bends upward toward the hand which I don't think it can do. :D You might also check the relative size / roundness of her shoulders, but I think these are all things you would catch anyway as you continue to render...def. enjoying your mix of styles and subjects, and always look forward to seeing more! :)

Mu
02-03-2007, 06:33 PM
Hi Zeph,

been a while since I have wondered at the marvels of your thread and I had to read up a few pages.

Again, totally gorgious pose and wonderful WIP so far.

There's some things about this composition that make me wonder, though...

1.
I think that blood puddles have been overdone and this one sort of takes away from the originality of the beautiful pose.
But I reckon you had a reason for the blood from a storytelling point of view?


2.
Where is the blood from? That's quite a big puddle and both bodies (corpses?) are sort of immaculate. And unwounded.

I have that feeling that the things which surround the pose like two guns, the holes in the floor and the smeared imprint of the bloody hand and the unwounded bodies together with big blood puddle are a bit contradictory and kind of rather confuse me than help tell the story.

As always looking forward with what you come up...:)

aggie93
02-03-2007, 10:15 PM
I love your water color. That is great. beautiful pose as well. Thighs a bit large, but I love my women with muscular legs. Must be a runner. LOL

TheFirstAngel
02-12-2007, 03:43 AM
wonderful work on air. love the flow of it. love how you brought in such a great dynamic to the piece the hair rox and the alloverflow is just awesome ^^ cant wait to see the rest of the series :)

Zephyri
02-12-2007, 03:54 AM
Rebecca: neat idea about the cast shadow... I might very well try that. And I think, though please do correct me if I'm wrong, that you might be mistaking her right hand as his.. the skin tones are very similar at the minute, so it does look like one limb, but his right hand isn't on show as I figured it would be curled around her arm, which is bent under his. I've yet to put the right bone structure in around the wrist to denote that, and I need to slim the forearm down and perhaps elongate it.. not sure till I try it out.
Mu: still fiddling with the overall shapes of the blood puddles, as they're not quite balanced yet and i certainly don't want them to overpower the figures. The piece is mostly metaphorical, certainly where the blood, guns and bullets and pose of the two people are concerned. The blood and bullets are not only a symbol of the violence the two have endured from their mutual enemy, but also between themselves, as their relationship is highly volatile for most of the novel. The picture is my attempt to sum up everything the two characters have been through, and where they end up - a point where both have lost all that was truly dear to them, which makes their victory hollow aside from the solace they find in each other. It's difficult to sum up quickly due to the complex nature of the story (god help me when I come to post it as a finished article!). I wanted the whole piece to have a more graphic look, too, hence the shatter marks and the placement of bullets and holes and whatnot - which again are also symbolic.
Aggie: Thanks! I was drawing straight onto the watercolour board, so however it came out was how it was going to stay! And I don't mind the large thighs so much in this piece, it kind of fits with the style!

Oh my goodness, what a week. Busy busy busy! 15 monk caricatures in under 2 weeks is a little bit mad! But I've had time to do the odd bit here and there, and I can come and catch up with folks here now! Here's some tidbits... the novel Nick/Toni piece is on hold until I find a decent chunk of time to really go at it and make some progress.

Here's the sketches done just before I started the Air piece above, along with a few vilppu simple exercises to loosed up before i committed myself to the watercolour board:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/airsketchesvilppu.jpg

Bougereau copy, I've deleted the original file, so I forget which painting it was... possibly Eros and Psyche?
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/bougereaucopy.jpg

Hogarth arm studies. I'm trying to do more of these, as I've always loved the way comics are coloured with regard to musculature, and it strikes me that Hogarth's method would work well for that.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/hogartharms.jpg

Miniature completed alongside the monks... not often I paint people, the original is only 2.5 inches x 4.25 inches, which is actually counted as 'big' for a miniature.
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/gen270_finallo.sized.jpg

Still trying to make friends with Painter... so went back to the Trevor Eve picture and tried out the palette knife. Which didn't hate me too much! This is also my current desktop!
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/trevorr.jpg

Recently bought a Yoshitaka Amano book of Vampire Hunter D art, and was hugely inspired, so some Amano style practice! The finished version will be split into three linked avatars for deviantart, hopefully. This is digital, done in photoshop (larger version CLICK HERE (http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/avatarsamano.jpg)) :
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/avatarsamano.sized.jpg

Aaaand, after a discussion with a friend about previous romances, I got inspired to do something valentines-ish. It was supposed to be a doodle, but has turned into something rather more than that! So far no references at all, which I'm pleasantly surprised at, and I'm trying the greyscale painting first and overlaying with a 'colour' layer. Some wip shots thus far:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/filesonlove.sized.jpg

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/lovefilesgrey.sized.jpg

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/lovefilescolour.jpg

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/lovefilesclr3.jpg

Zephyri
02-12-2007, 04:04 AM
Sacha: And thanks hun! Having just seen your attempts at a similar subject, I'd say you should finish them!

SpiritDreamer
02-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Hi...Spirit Wind....and HAPPY VALENTINES DAY... IN ADVANCE:bounce: :)

Really inspirering work you have here....been busy I see..:scream: I LOVE IT ALL...:thumbsup:
A couple of minor suggestions on your couple embracing painting posted above, that might be of help to you...where her hand and wrist run parallel to his forarm...In overlapping shapes/forms, it is not a good idea to have them run parellel with each other..destroys the illussion of depth, and makes them seem as one shape/form...maybe move his foram to the left, or her wrist to the right, mabe even having that hand of hers making contact with his foram that is leading up to his hand which is holding the gun, crasping it or touching it with her fingers, might act as a unifying factor in that area of the painting, in relation to the gun that he is holding...this would also break up the parellel effect which is happening and which is causing the confussion in the viewers eye...also might put his forarm in deep shadow, which will creat a greater sense of depth in that area of the painting...also maybe have his forarm a little rounder on the top.
Also, her foot, the one that is up against his, seems a bit small, as compared to her other foot....just small observations that might be of some help on that piece.:shrug: :)
Really glad to see you experimenting with that palette knife...powerful and very expressive tool..:thumbsup:
ALWAYS A GREAT PLEASURE AND JOURNY WHILE VISITING YOUR THREAD...Spirit Wind...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
02-12-2007, 01:01 PM
wow you have been busy haven't you?
the amount of work you produce in a few weeks is really impresive!
I wish I could quit my daytime job now argh :D

se7en-z3r0
02-12-2007, 01:19 PM
I am completely into this newest piece you are working on! Can't wait to see the finished version. You have been a busy girl, huh? Impressive progress Zeph - keep it up : )

Samanthie
02-12-2007, 04:11 PM
Hi Sam, It's really great to see all the different styles. Lovely work here. I hope you'll post an update of the Hogarth style arm studies. I'd like to see them colored in.:) Oh and now I'll just have to try out that palette knife in Painter. :D

Zephyri
02-14-2007, 05:57 AM
Glenn: thank you! And to you too! I see what you mean about the wrists on that picture.. I shall endeavour to tweak it... I might change the position of her hand too. The foot is yet to be rendered properly, so I'll make it a bit bigger when I get down there. Thanks for the pointers, always appreciated.
Johan: Thanks, and yeah, been a busy beaver these past couple of weeks! I can safely say that my life consists of art and sleep and the occasional trip out the house!
Se7en: glad to know you like the piece! Still working on it bit by bit... going to see if I can finsh it for the deadline for the expose book.
Deborah: Thanks! Not sure whether I'll find the time to colour the hogarth stuff... I'm more likely to just draw more studies instead. And the palette knife is fun, especially if you have a tilt-sensitive tablet!

A couple more pieces from me, first up another Blacksent image, this time of the story's villainess, Aramantra, whose arms are a little on the short side, annoyingly:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/Aramantra_by_Zephyri.jpg

And a new ID for myself over on Deviant, it's kind of a running thing with the old guy theme, since the gandalf one last time.
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/ID.jpg

-voraz-
02-14-2007, 08:39 AM
Zephyri, very nice work you've got here, really love your drawings, they are really clean and very weel done. Your painting is also very good.
One crit is with the guy with white hair and two guns in the previous page, he doesn't seem to blend with the background he just seems pasted over.
keep it up
cheers

anandpg
02-14-2007, 08:47 AM
Hey Sam! Awesome work as usual!:applause:

Zephyri
02-21-2007, 03:14 AM
Voraz: Thanks, and yeah, I could have spent a lot longer on the guy with the guns, and the white outline doesn't help with him blending, but I was going for something quick and stylised, not wanting to spend too long on it.

Anand: cheers!

A few more odds and sods:
OFDW progress so far:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/OFDW21wip1.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/colourtestwip.jpg

Coloured version of that ID:
http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/The_Unforeseen_Dangers_Of_by_Zephyri.jpg

And a progress shot on the novel piece, having redone the hair, painted over the bodies of both a little more, smoothing transitions out and playing about with the background. Moved her hand back over a little, and have hopefully tackled the issue of his forwarm blending with her wrist. It's an unfortunate tangent, no matter how I play about with it, but changing it now would mean a whole heap of work and changing the positions quite dramatically, so it'll stay where it is and I'lll do the best I can with shadows and light!

http://zephyri.com/gallery/albums/Sketches/WIPshot5.jpg

Rebeccak
02-21-2007, 03:26 AM
Zeph! That series really cracks me up, it's something I can picture in the alternative version of Hallmark :D - very funny indeed. :) Really liking the man's torso on the novel piece, I'm sure this will turn out very strong. I'm really looking forward to following your progress on the OFDW piece, there's such a variety this time round which is very cool - great as always to have your participation around here! :)

vincent1
02-21-2007, 03:37 AM
Lovely watercolour and pencil drawings. :thumbsup:

Nice concept with the OFDW piece. I guess we are always flirting with evil way or another...

"There is no limit to the stupidity and cruelty of man"...

anandpg
02-21-2007, 04:48 AM
hey Sam! that cartoon is real funny! it looks more catchy in color.
great concept for the OFDW! anxious to see your progress on this.

SpiritDreamer
05-02-2007, 10:15 AM
Hi...SPIRIT WIND...:)

Just stopping in to say HI..:)
Was looking for that self portrait of you in here...the one that captures your TRUE FEELINGS and SPIRIT...:)
I have a great book that you should get, if you have the chance, it's called...AMERICAN INDIAN MYTHS AND LEGENDS...Selected and edited by Richard Erdoes and Alfonso Ortiz...Pantheon Fairy Tale and Folklore Library...
I think you would love it....will give you alot of inspiration, spark your imagination, and give you some great ideas for your paintings I think.:)
HAVE A GREAT DAY...SPIRIT WIND..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Intervain
05-02-2007, 10:53 AM
love the cartoon - hillarious!!!


my fav is the novel piece - I love that clean concept of not much happening around them so we concentrate on the two figures! Beautiful painting:thumbsup: are they both dead there? or is it only one? or none?... I was just wondering about the skin tones... in any case LOVE it!

windarr
05-02-2007, 02:19 PM
Wow, your work is mesmerizing. Not only great technically, but such fantastic creativity and imagination. I'm surprised you're not doing concept work somewhere already, because you seem like you would be a fantastic concept artist.

Zephyri
05-02-2007, 07:18 PM
Glenn: I have a couple of books on Indians and found this amazing online book too, which I really want to get round to reading, but I've not heard of that one, so definitely putting it on my list. I'm fascinated by the culture of Native American Indians. Your own work was an influence on that piece, especially in the boldness of colour, so thank you.

Intervain: thanks! And the novel piece is symbolic mostly. Neither of them are dead, the blood is representational of the violence they both went through, that bound them together. Same with the guns and bullets and their nakedness... all have meaning pertinent to the character's stories (they are the two main protagonists from my novel).

Windarr: you're very sweet! I'm working towards becoming a concept artist, still brushing up on anatomy, and color and more importantly speed, but that's my ultimate goal!

I feel really bad for not having been around here in so long! Work has kept me busy, and any free time I get, I tend to spend over at pixelbrush's forums, since they were kind enough to make me a moderator, I kinda feel a duty to have as much input there as I can (I know how you feel, Rebecca, and I still don't know how you manage the huge contribution you've given here while still retaining some kind of outside life!).

And this will be something of a dump and run, since I'm supposed to be painting Saints again, before I leave for the States in under a week (plus finishing two minatures and a couple of commissions while doing three days a week full time design.. aye aye!) so please forgive the apprent selfishness.. the minute I grab some free time, I'll be all over these forums like a rash! Ehehehe.

Some more recent work/wips:
This was done as a challenge on pixelbrush, to do a self portrait from a bygone era. You can see the steps in this thread: Challenge thread (http://pixelbrush.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=503)
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/zeph-portrait-final.jpg

Both the following are for an article in Imagine FX on colour:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/sheralo.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/forestcolour1.jpg

Pencil character work, the werewolf is mid-transition, my aim being to make the anatomy believable enoug that it could stretch into animal form, albeit painfully... reference: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42410185/
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/In_the_Pale_Moonlight_by_Ze.jpg

Reference:http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26562777/
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/hussar.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/Hiro.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/ergo.jpg

WIPs:
Coloured pencil, originaly started it in oils, but had a major falling out with the medium!
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/Del-wip-3lo.jpg

And the ongoing novel piece:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/arithonslove/htfnicktoniupdate-1.jpg

Zephyri
05-02-2007, 07:22 PM
Aaand some quick, no referenced character sketches of some of the characters from a role play forum I'm involved in.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/vaya.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/rewunandtrejadi.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/max.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/Alej.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/epona.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/Jason.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/Justin.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/zephonline/Kern.jpg

NR43
05-02-2007, 08:08 PM
ok when are you going to stop flooring me with each post?
it's starting to hurt now :D

Thanks for sharing these!

razz
05-02-2007, 08:48 PM
This day is full of good new stuff in this forum! Lots of updates by great artists, always a pleasure to see. And me going around asking, what helped you the most with doing imaginational work? Was it life drawing? I feel bad for not doing a lot of life drawings and if it is the thing that helps the most with imaginational stuff, then damn, I'll have to change some things.
Oh, I love that jungle pic for the Imagine FX magazine!
Are you going to finish the piece you started for the OFDW?

Samanthie
05-04-2007, 12:14 AM
Hi Sam, Your art makes me want to work harder on mine!!lol Lovely self portrait and I know you are very busy but I would love to see how you develop the werewolf..he is great!

boeserWolf
05-04-2007, 09:56 AM
damn !!! ... what a great thread :D ... you seems to have a incredible imagination, this drawings are awesome, its always a big pleasure to come here and see what new stuff you just have posted ... thx :thumbsup:

Mu
05-04-2007, 10:53 AM
so strong concepts, all of them... a joy to look at.

Intervain
05-04-2007, 12:41 PM
darn! Fantastic work again... I love that pencil image on the battlefield, which started as oils :) LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!

vincent1
07-16-2007, 10:26 AM
Lovely drawings and paintings.

Also just saw your mug shot. I'm in Love!
Cheers!

pushav
08-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Fantastic work! I like the sketches so far.

Lyneran
11-01-2007, 08:21 AM
gorgeous work! wow love those colors! thanks for the inspiration!

3dRaven
11-01-2007, 09:16 AM
Very inspiring stuff Zephyri :) Love those latest pencil sketches :thumbsup:

grassetti
11-01-2007, 02:19 PM
wow!!
:eek:

can wait to see more..
take care!

teo-disturbed
04-09-2008, 11:03 AM
Amazing works Samantha! I really love your sense of color and anatomy skill, pretty nice :).

SoniaNotRed
04-25-2008, 02:47 PM
I hate u!
Kidding. :D
I've been drooling all over your sketches. :drool: I think next time I pick up a pencil I'll be drawing a little better, after this. Thanks for all the eyecandy.

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