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tjs61822
02-21-2006, 04:41 PM
Hi everyone.

Thanks Brian for sponsoring this contest, should be fun. You gave me the nudge I needed to dig a little deeper into EIAS.

Well, here it goes ... I'm sticking with the original mythological concept but emphasizing the idea of the search for the phoenix's feather which possessed eternal life.

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STORY:
Atop the tallest date palm, the lone phoenix nests for rebirth. The nest blazes into the heavens as the masses gather below. Finally, their quest for the feather of the phoenix will be fulfilled thus granting them eternal life.

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Sketch is attached but not sure if it will show since this is my first time trying. If it doesn't I'll provide a link in a reply. Now, like everyone else, need to find the time!

Tim

Vizfizz
02-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Welcome aboard!

Have fun and good luck. It should be a great learning experience for everyone.

tjs61822
02-28-2006, 03:16 AM
Here's what I have so far. Used fiberforge for the feather, onyxtree for the date palms and silo for the hand. Tried to portray a Burne Hogarth style for the hand to give it a near death look since they are supposed to be grasping for eternal life.

Tim

buggsy
02-28-2006, 04:02 AM
Love the tendons in the hand. And the date palms. :applause:

I am using onyxtree as well! Are you going to split your palms into seperate elements so you can apply your own textures? I normally split the fronds out and apply transmission to them. Gives them a nice translucent look.


This competition is looking harder & harder to win. :banghead:

Must work faster and harder.

Buggsy

tjs61822
02-28-2006, 04:59 AM
Thanks Buggsy. Yes, I'll probably split the fronds from the trunk so I can add a bark texture. Haven't tried using transmission on fronds before, but sounds like a great idea. Might use VLife from Konkeptoine's C3 for a mossy looking texture at the base of the trunks.

I was just thinking the same about the competition, but heh, it's all for fun. :rolleyes:

tjs61822
03-13-2006, 04:54 PM
Here's my modeling image. The phoenix and hand were created with Silo. The feather was created with FiberForge and the trees with OnyxTree. The info at the bottom (renderer time, etc.) is for the final image which I'm still working on and will post when presentable.

Tim

richardjoly
03-13-2006, 05:34 PM
That's great Tim. Love the models and feathers!

tjs61822
03-13-2006, 06:02 PM
Thanks Richard. How's the work bench coming?

Tim

richardjoly
03-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Couldn't work on the project for a week. Will post new images tonight. The idea was to model lots of tidbits to make it look as a real workbench... well bad idea... Lots of tidbits= lots of time.

yhloon
03-14-2006, 04:21 AM
Here's my modeling image. The phoenix and hand were created with Silo. The feather was created with FiberForge and the trees with OnyxTree. The info at the bottom (renderer time, etc.) is for the final image which I'm still working on and will post when presentable.

Tim

the modelling looks very impressive:eek:...especially the hand...:)

Loon

tjs61822
03-14-2006, 06:09 AM
Thanks for the comments. Here's a link (http://www.soltec.net/~articol/projectphoenix/project_phoenix_render.jpg) to my latest render. I tried :banghead: to meet the 97K upload limit on file size but it is not large enough for acceptable compression quality. Hope a link is acceptable for the final contest entry.

Tim

AzOne
03-14-2006, 10:34 AM
Wow! That's a look I haven't seen done with EI before.
Brilliant!

bronco
03-14-2006, 10:47 AM
wow! this is really nice!

halfworld
03-14-2006, 11:05 AM
Tasty! Excellent work, that render time deserves an award in itself!
Ian

tjs61822
03-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Thanks guys. The quick render time sure helps tweaking the image!

Tim

buggsy
03-14-2006, 11:01 PM
Excellent image!

I can feel that prize slipping away. Excuse me while I wave it goodbye!:hmm:

Love that ploom of yellow smoke and the feathers around the neck. I hate you (just kidding). How did you do it. Did you use Dante & Fire?

Only two things I can give crit on.

1. The stars in the background are a bit blue for me and I think it would be good if they had a greater sparkle about them.

2. The EI logo on the back of the hand seems to be an after thought. I'd leave it off or find a more fitting place for it.

Buggsy

tjs61822
03-14-2006, 11:24 PM
Heh Buggsy. Don't know about the prize, there are some good ideas developing! How's your scene coming? The F111 looks great! :applause:

The yellow smoke is Dante; the feathers on the bird and floating in the air are FiberForge; the red flame above the wings is Fire. I agree with you on the stars and logo. Was trying to get a tattoo effect for the logo but just can't get it to work so I will probably remove it.

Thanks for the critique.

Tim

richardjoly
03-15-2006, 12:50 AM
Astonishing imagery! Congratulations. Nice smoke with Dante, all I can get out of it is a headhache...

tjs61822
03-15-2006, 02:43 AM
ohhhh...there was some headache there! :banghead:

Tim

SteveW928
03-15-2006, 11:17 AM
Very nice Tim!!!

I'm curious what kind of machine that was rendered on to get that awesome time. I just about fell out of my chair when I saw the poly count and render time. :eek: :thumbsup:

Brian, maybe that is another template field to be added.

-Steve

tjs61822
03-15-2006, 02:16 PM
Thanks Steve. It's a 2 year old dual 1.8 G5. Only using 1 processor though except for the fire plugin which has an option to use multiple processors. Tweaking some of the plugin settings makes a difference.

Tim

odwalla
03-16-2006, 02:50 PM
At first glance I thought it was a final work.
Excellent!
And also I love your colour scheme like a vintage magazines cover. :thumbsup:

tbenesch
03-16-2006, 05:00 PM
I agree, the lastest version looks almost final! Can't wait to see your tweaks. Well done. I like the perspective, composition and colors that you used. Great modeling job on the Phoenix and feathers and hands. You guys are inspiring me to work more with Silo.

Looking forward to your next post. Again, congrats on your project.

Troy

tjs61822
03-16-2006, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the comments!

Troy, give Silo a try. I've fought with several modelers :cry: over the years until Silo came along. It just clicked with me and made modelling fun.

Tim

tjs61822
03-20-2006, 10:03 PM
Here's a <a href="http://www.soltec.net/~articol/projectphoenix/project_phoenix_final_ts.jpg">link</a> to my final image. Tweaked the composition, added smoke to a few of the feathers and included a few scarabs scurrying down the palm. Brian, I hope a link to the image is okay since it loses too much detail when compressing to meet the forum file size.

Whew, glad to be finished but sure learned a lot about Dante and Fire plugins. Anxious to see the other finished images.

Tim

tjs61822
03-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Sorry about the link. Here it is:

http://www.soltec.net/~articol/projectphoenix/project_phoenix_final_ts.jpg

Tim

bronco
03-20-2006, 10:30 PM
wow, i absolutly love this. very nice!
full 3rd party arsenal ;)

tjs61822
03-21-2006, 03:17 AM
Thanks bronco!

Tim

yhloon
03-23-2006, 06:25 AM
great work Tim, another potential winner for me :) I like a lot...

BUT 3 minutes 9 seconds!? this is not fair :cry: (just kidding)
you should GI render it, I certainly want to see the GI result... also other paople...
:D

regards,
Loon

bronco
03-23-2006, 06:53 AM
agreed. GI render would be nice, just to see what difference this would make, but i think even without GI this is beatifull. very nice style.

HAWK999
03-23-2006, 06:55 AM
Great image Tim

Jean-Luc

tbenesch
03-23-2006, 06:57 AM
Truly impressive work! I love the bold colors, perspective and smoke/fire details. Wow. Your machine rocks to kick this out in just over 3 minutes!

Great job.

Troy

AzOne
03-23-2006, 07:54 AM
Another vote for a GI render (for an already great image :-) )

halfworld
03-23-2006, 08:30 AM
Very powerful!

I like it a lot! It's oozing drama!
:)
Ian

AVTPro
03-23-2006, 09:06 AM
Oh man! Just saw this, I could have quit a long time ago.

odwalla
03-23-2006, 12:19 PM
I hear a religious drumbeat of the ancient times from the depths of the jungle.
So fabulous imaginary picture you made:thumbsup:
I think that this picture doesn`t need GI, because I love this mood like vintage magazines .

tjs61822
03-23-2006, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone. I'll have to try GI but need to catch up on work now. Got too involved with this contest and let work slip some...back to the real world!

Tim

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