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Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 01:28 PM
ericyeo,

Great, can't wait to see the close~ups! Very nice work...the waves are really hypnotic! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
03-07-2006, 01:36 PM
ericyeo - outstanding! Youve done really well on the skintones and on the waters transparency. Brilliant!

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 01:38 PM
redjesus,

Great to see your progress! Keep plugging away, a lot of this is trial and error! :)

SaraD,

Lovely work as usual! :thumbsup: Can't wait to see you develop this further. :)

Aggie,

It really looks like your figures are getting more confident! :thumbsup:

Amerasu,

Hope you can join us!

Maladie,

Lovely work so far! :)

tiago barcellos pereira,

Great start! :thumbsup:

Sorry if I've missed anyone...it's great to see so much amazing work here! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 01:41 PM
ericyeo,

One minor thing I just noticed is a brighter patch of blue about her left foot...I wonder if that might be blended just a bit more into the rest of the water? Just a minor suggestion. :)

But I agree with SaraD, the water just looks amazing! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

ericyeo
03-07-2006, 01:49 PM
RebeccaK : :D Suppose to be the reflection. That could be fix. Thanks.
SaraD : Thank you. Gald that u like it. I have to thanks Spirit Dreamer, he corrected me on the skintone.
Spirit Dreamer & Maladie: Thank you :)

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 01:56 PM
ericyeo,

Gotcha, now I see it! :)

By the way guys, I came across some great painting tutorials (http://www.henningludvigsen.com/wordpress/?page_id=22) by a CGTalk artist here:

http://www.henningludvigsen.com/wordpress/?page_id=22

Definitely worth checking out! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
03-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Ericyeo - It really looks good. Love the skin tones. The only thing I see is the eyes, the left eye in particular. I cannot define it it just looks out of position. Sorry I had to ruin it by picking at it. I would say leave it alone and go with it.

Rebecca - Thanks. I am actually feeling more confident with my works. I feel like I have come a long way since I started back with drawing back in December. These forums really give me something to work for. They also are giving me a portfolio. I would like to start showing again, once my confidence builds back up. I also want to get into this digital painting, but those walcom's are a bit too pricy for me since this is not my profession.

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Aggie,

It's great to hear that you are gaining so much from the forums!

Do you have any examples of the types of work you have shown previously? :) It would be very interesting to see. :)

Also, have you ever worked in oil before? It's a natural next step if you want to work traditionally.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Maladie
03-07-2006, 04:35 PM
If anybody has time and feels like it, could you crit my last update a bit? I want to work further on it but don't quite know where to put the focus. Thanks in advance everyone!

vnikolov
03-07-2006, 05:10 PM
@Pinoy McGee & daWinky - Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated..
Unfortunately I haven't had any time to paint lately..
We have a sh*tload of work in the office and I've been keeping myself busy with a lot more boring stuff than doodling with the wacom (sometimes I really, really hate my job :D )..
I'll try and paint a little after dinner, although my eyes hurt like hell..
@Maladie - Lovely 'first finished version' - can't wait to see the next one ..
@ericyeo - WOW :eek: .. sweeeet..
@SaraD - nice progress, keep us posted, pls :thumbsup:..
@Matellis - hehe, you crack me up, buddy..
@everybody else - keep up, wonderful job..

SoniaNotRed
03-07-2006, 06:28 PM
Running late as usual but finally got here!
It's hard to draw chubby girls after spending a lifetime drawing slender ones. She's looking all twisted... :scream: *starts hacking at girl's hunchback*
About 35 minutes to do this.
http://nekoi.no.sapo.pt/Asai/Vaga.jpg



Matellis - That is so cool! LOL! :thumbsup:

aggie93 - I see your coloring has evolved already quite a bit since your copy of "La Vague". Good going!

Great painting everyone!

LoTekK
03-07-2006, 06:45 PM
ericyeo: Daaaaayum! That looks gorgeous, man. As said, the skintones are perfect. Awesomeness. :thumbsup:

Maladie: Yours is coming along very nicely!

svegetal
03-07-2006, 06:55 PM
more 2 hours

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4559/nenphys39ed.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i'dont like this picture but it's a good chalange.

aggie93
03-07-2006, 07:23 PM
If anybody has time and feels like it, could you crit my last update a bit? I want to work further on it but don't quite know where to put the focus. Thanks in advance everyone!

Mal - The only thing I can see is that you may want to work on the details of the face a little. Other than that everything is coming along nicely. Purportions and color looks fine. I say keep on trucking.

Tiag - I like! Great work in little time too!

Sonj - by the way, that is what I call my wife, Sonj. Looks like you got it all worked out. Did you fold your paper? :scream:

SpiritDreamer
03-07-2006, 07:44 PM
Hi ...Tiago...:)

I look at your painting, and see warm, even hot tropical jungle....greens...must be Brazil...:)
I really like it...gives it a whole different feeling, mood. . .maybe ... PAUL GAUGUIN...:thumbsup:
Maybe some muted reds...purples...browns to go with the greens...might really start it to
vibrateing...just a thought...:)
Looking forward to seeing your painting evolve...really liking it.

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Matellis
03-07-2006, 08:55 PM
Hey everyone! I am still alive i swear! just been really busy with other things, but tomorrow I think i will start working on this again. Right now my mind is in journey mood. :)

Everyone is doing a great job , keep it up.

Eric- The painting is amazing , and what i love most is the skin , the wrinkles in the feet and hands , outstanding! and the background oh and her face , oohh and the waves , OK OK i love the whole thing.

cheers to everyone,
p.s- is there a workshop after party?

aggie93
03-07-2006, 09:05 PM
p.s- is there a workshop after party?

Party... Where?... I'm there!:bounce:

Maladie
03-08-2006, 10:41 AM
Like, drinking virtual beer in cyberspace?:thumbsup: Sounds like a plan. Everybody thanks for crits, or rather, praise (?!). I will work on a closeup of the face now and incorporate it when it's done. Other than that I'll try to make more detailed brushstrokes everywhere. I wish I could get a luminosity and plasticity like ericyeo...hey, maybe in another few years.

Matt, are you in the journey-challenge? Would love to see more work from you. Keep it up everyone!

paperclip
03-08-2006, 12:41 PM
ericyeo: I can't get over yours, she really feels alive. I actually like her raspberry lips, it somehow brings her into a modern age...:)

redjesus: awesome start! On my screen the colours look a little fawnish (is that even a word, I looked it up in a rusty English dictionary), but this is probably just your basic layer of colour? Besides I shouldn't talk because ma gal's purple folks:).

mattellis: you make me laugh with your tattood lady and then you suddenly swing around and come up with lovely colours and a real gentle feel! It is funny how you play around with archetypes of depicturing women:).
Your brush-tip was real helpful, by the way. Thanks again for that.

aggie: I really like your lines. You still going to do the succubusses?

Okay, so this is my update. Decreased her humonguous foot a little:) and worked on the background. I consider this a 'first finished version' the way I would finish a first version of a short story. This is where I would love some feedback to delve more into it. I learned a lot already about colours and brushstrokes...but I would love to really challenge myself.
Here comes:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/lavague5.jpg
PS. I know it's a bit blurry, because I'm working on a low res monitor (600 by 800!!): mine broke down and I had to borrow one. Will do face in close up on bigger canvas, then paste.

I don't think you have too much to worry about. Learning digital art is a looong, slow progress (I'm still on level 2 myself) and you seem to be picking it up very quickly. Only crit in the above pic is the face and the fact that the areas around the hands are too dark- it looks like a dip in the land. I would give it a lighter hue, like the reflection you have below the feet there.

You're doing really well and you have tons of potential! In fact, I am quite jealous. :) Keep going!!

Maladie
03-08-2006, 12:59 PM
WOW. thanks!:)

aggie93
03-08-2006, 01:32 PM
I worked on my Nymphs,... I wish.., last night for about 15 minutes. I need to either wrap this up or put it down. I have got to start studying for a state board exam to get my some-what doctorate. The test is in April, then I can pick it up again.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060307Nympha.jpghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060307Nymphd.jpg

I am going to be gone to another seminar in central Texas for the next few days. Good luck with everyone.

LoTekK
03-08-2006, 03:07 PM
Maladie: You should be proud of where you gotten so far. It looks great, and you've got a good solid grasp on the skintones (yours is a tad pinker than the original, though). Nice values, too. Oh, and lovely job on the water. :thumbsup:

The only thing that's really standing out for me right now is her face - it's rather small. If you can, size up the face, and then give her that lovely smile she's got on in the original. :) Looking forward to an update.

aggie93: What you've got there looks really good; nice values, nice shading technique (it looks like you're hatching?). But, you're rendering in parts. If I might make a suggestion, try laying down values on the whole before working up the details. It'll result in a much more coherent final result. But I'd like to see where you take this. :thumbsup:

aggie93
03-08-2006, 03:28 PM
aggie93: What you've got there looks really good; nice values, nice shading technique (it looks like you're hatching?). But, you're rendering in parts. If I might make a suggestion, try laying down values on the whole before working up the details. It'll result in a much more coherent final result. But I'd like to see where you take this. :thumbsup:

Thanks Lo. There is a reason for the part rendering. It started earlier in this thread, last week. I was going to finish up with the three then and now I decided to add the other two. I am also leaving out the heads and the legs of the satyre because I am debating on changing the characters (Read the earlier post of mine, you'll understand).

LoTekK
03-08-2006, 03:45 PM
(Read the earlier post of mine, you'll understand).
Oops. This is what I get for jumping in with comments this late in the game. :blush: Your interpretation definitely intrigues me, and now I'm even more psyched to see where you take this. :thumbsup:

ericyeo
03-08-2006, 05:11 PM
vnikolov & Matellis: Thank you
LoTekK: Hi :wavey: ur from Singapore too
Maladie: Practise makes perfect. I didnt know much about skin tone before I join the workshop. u have tons of potential. Believe in urself and u will make it :D

Another round of refining
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/ericyeo/wave/wave6.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-08-2006, 05:30 PM
Hi...Ericyeo...:)

Trust your own eye and judgement, ...your an excellent draftsman....that eye looked great before...to my eyes anyway...now it is distracting...before her face looked perfect and
BEAUTIFUL...I thought so anyway...just my opinion though.

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-08-2006, 05:49 PM
ericyeo,

WOW, just stunning! :D I love this piece, I most certainly hope you will be submitting it to the Gallery. I have the tiniest quibble with the bottom edge of her buttocks where there is a tiny bump that looks like it might be smoothed a bit more. Also, that bit of water by her right hand, the light blue area, is a bit more obvious as being 'painted' than the rest of the water. But overall, just WOW!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Great work!!! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-08-2006, 10:58 PM
Hi Ericyeo
Think your painting turned out fantastic. Fabulous. Really admire your painting technique.
No crits at all from me. Love the colors you ended up with. Beautiful silvery glow to your whole painting. I enlarged your painting and the eye looks fine either way to me. I know
you are really getting into color so I thought I would show you a warm version of your
painting. Might come in handy in the future, who knows? Took less than 5 minutes with
the magic of the computer, Painter 9. Applied two tints. A peach color and a gray-gold
color. Then adjusted contrast and brightness. Also smoothed out a couple of edges with a softener brush in tinting section. That is it. Like I said, maybe these simple tricks will
come in handy to you sometime down the road. Just trying to help you with your color
studies.
Take care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/wave5_1.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/wave5_3.jpg

ericyeo
03-09-2006, 08:29 AM
Spirit Dreamer: Cool technique. I Definitely got to try it. :D
Hi all, I have posted it to the gallery here is the link http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=327053

Amerasu
03-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Here's my start. All I've done so far is the quick sketch (I used a grid for this one) and preliminary colours.

I might start with a face study this afternoon before attempting to paint everything.

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_1.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Hi Rebecca and everyone

Working on wood nymphs above satyr.
Trying to capture their expressions and keep
them light and airy at the same time.
Using large oil brush, tinting section. Painter 9

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63b.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63a.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63.jpg

Amerasu
03-11-2006, 08:33 PM
I think this will take ages to properly paint. If I don't do any housework at all this weekend, I might actually manage to finish it :)

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_2.jpg

Amerasu
03-12-2006, 01:28 AM
I'll call it a night. Maybe I can finish tomorrow.

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_3.jpg

Rebeccak
03-12-2006, 01:38 PM
Glenn,

Your beginning stages are always very cool, and it's impossible to predict where your paintings will end up! Looking forward to seeing more of your progression. :)

Amerasu,

Looking great so far! Bouguereau's style is very different from your own, and it's cool to see you diving in.

How much longer do you guys want this OFDW to run? I am open to suggestions. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

svegetal
03-12-2006, 03:32 PM
more 30 minutes, now i'm going to the details, but i'm in deep trouble in my university > i think this week i'll not touch this paint

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5839/nenphys57fg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Rebeccak
03-12-2006, 03:44 PM
tiago barcellos pereira,

Really sorry to hear about your university problem...hope it works out. :)

Really nice work on this so far ~ I hope you'll be able to come back to it shortly.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-12-2006, 04:20 PM
Amerasu...looks great...lot of work though ...hey...:)

Tiago...really looking forward to seeing how you personalize the colors in this painting.
Hope you get to finish it...but first things first....the way of the world...:)


Rebecca.... I was only planning on doing face studies on this one, to start with, and a little experimenting
with brushes and technique, so it is not that important to me to finish it at the moment.
will most likely be one of those paintings that are used to try out new things on, when they
are sucessful, and might look good in this painting....could learn from and work on this painting
for years...so the time thing you mentioned above is fine with me whichever way it goes.:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Amerasu
03-12-2006, 08:37 PM
One last update for today. I have to give it up til tomorrow so my family likes me again.

I do plan on commenting on all of the fantastic work here! I will do that tomorrow when I post the final version.


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_4.jpg

aggie93
03-12-2006, 10:10 PM
Amer - Your middle two Nymphs are beautiful.

Tiago - I like the way work art was created with the linework. It seemed that it got you to the details faster. Yours is also coming along nicely.

Keep trucking guys.

I hope to have an update sometime this week.

aggie93
03-13-2006, 12:28 PM
WOW:eek: , You know this thread is dead when I can post two in a row on seperate days. Here is my update on the Nymph project:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060313Nymphsa.jpg

Rebeccak
03-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Threads don't die, Aggie...they wait. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
03-13-2006, 09:30 PM
Threads don't die, Aggie...they wait. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Good one! :scream:

Maladie
03-14-2006, 04:48 PM
I've been designing a website, so haven't had time to work on it. I'll finish the face this week, then post the end result. I don't think I'll be able to do much more work than that so...I would like to see everybody finish, though! One more week or so?

Amerasu
03-14-2006, 05:19 PM
I still haven't managed to finish this, it's a very difficult painting! But I am much closer now and aside from some refining here and there, I just need to complete the background / nature.


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_5.jpg

Rebeccak
03-14-2006, 05:35 PM
Aggie,

Hehe :D

Maladie,

A week sounds good. Does that sound like enough time for everybody? :)

Amerasu,

WOW, this is looking gorgeous! :thumbsup: Great stuff, I really hope you complete this! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-14-2006, 10:27 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone:
Working on two versions
One day-time
One night-time
Having a lot of fun and learning a lot in the process
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_72.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr73.jpg

Rebeccak
03-14-2006, 10:33 PM
Wow, Glenn, these are beautiful! Definitely save these states, they're really nice ~ it would be great to see the golden tones more subtly carried through to the end.

Nice work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-14-2006, 11:31 PM
This one is over, right Rebecca?

Rebeccak
03-14-2006, 11:41 PM
cypherx,

I think we're going to give it one more week. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-14-2006, 11:45 PM
well then I'll start mine tonight (in charcoal)... though I wouldn't mind doing it digitally, I can keep my charcoal drawing. I'll try to upload photos tomorrow. I'm going with choice B.

Rebeccak
03-14-2006, 11:47 PM
Sounds good! :thumbsup: Remember, even if an OFDW closes, you can still post work to a closed OFDW as long as you want. It's only encouraged that folks move on to the next one once the new one opens. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aggie93
03-15-2006, 12:21 AM
Spirit - I am really going for the night one. The Nymphs are kinda ghost like. That is turning out neat.:eek:

Rebecca - I am certain that this one may take more than a week. However, I need to fill in the women in the back and everyone's head. I am not sure I will do a back ground, I normally don't. But, like you said, threads don't die.:D

Here is my lowly update to just bombared this thread with line updates. If your wondering, I covered my flash with a yellow sticky.:shrug:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060313Nymphsy.jpg

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 12:23 AM
Nice work, Aggie! :) Wow, they have transparent yellow stickies? :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
03-15-2006, 12:49 AM
Nice work, Aggie! :) Wow, they have transparent yellow stickies? :D



Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak








Rebec - No, the flash is so bright it reflects off of the graphite in the pencil so I dampen it with paper of some sort. The sticky was handy!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060313Nymphsf.jpg

cypherx
03-15-2006, 01:35 AM
So I sketched it out with vine charcoal, fixed some things, rubbed out some mistakes (the beauty of vine charcoal) and went over the outline with charcoal pencil. I probably won't use too much compressed charcoal on this one seeing as how there's not too many thick dark areas. But will use a lot of my 6b charcoal pencil because there's a lot of fine details, and I don't have any larger paper than the one I'm currently working on.

I know I'm not supposed to mix the different types of charcoal, but I do, that's just how I do things. Charcoal blasphemy, so I'm told. Doing it on an 18x24inch piece of Strathmore drawing paper.

her smudgy face can be rubbed out because its in vine it's just going to be hard getting the details in the way I would like

http://direwire.com/images/Open_fig_stage1.jpg

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 01:39 AM
cypherx,

Very nice beginning! I don't see the problem with mixing types of charcoal...call it a mixed media piece, if you like. :D

If you choose to work in the same way (charcoal on paper) for the next OFDW, you might want to try toned paper and use a white charcoal pencil for highlights. I have a feeling you might also like nupastels, which come in a range of earth or other colors.

Working with nupastels would give you the ability to work in dry media similar to charcoal yet also work in color.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-15-2006, 01:42 AM
Hi....Aggie // Davey...:) THANKS...Trying to get the best from both worlds...light and dark.LOL !!:eek: :scream: :bounce:
Like the way you got the yellow and green on that one virsion...gives it a nice warmth..:thumbsup:



Hi...Rebecca....:wavey: :) ...and THANK YOU...very inspiring painting...don't know where i'm
going, or how i'll get there, but I will have fun along the way.
Hope everything is going great with your workshop class...lot of work, don't know how you
manage it all, but am sure glad that you do. once again Rebecca...THANKS FOR EVERYTHING:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Amerasu
03-15-2006, 02:20 AM
I finally finished! That took just about forever. I know there are some areas I could refine but I'm happy with it (and also tired of it!). I also skipped the tiny background figures because I wanted to be done.

Thanks for previous comments and feedback :)


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_final.jpg

Amerasu
03-15-2006, 02:23 AM
I'm not sure how many people are still around to read these comments since the session is almost over but I'll leave some feedback anyway.

cypherx She's looking very good in charcoal! I quite like her face. I understand you're going to rub it over but I think she looks good right now. Nice work so far.

aggie93 Your pic is a little small so it's hard to see details but I can see you've got some good work going on. I especially like the muscle definition on the left nymph, I think it looks very solid. I struggled with her myself!

Spirit Dreamer Nice style as always! Your paintings always flow so well and somehow you take a few smudges and work them into viable figures. I like the detail work you did on the male face a few pages back. Good stuff.

tiago Fantastic stuff for such a short time... and I thought I was fast! It's too bad you may not be able to finish this as it could look very good. School comes first though :)

ericyeo Wow! That's one gorgeous study! I've always been impressed with your work for the figure sessions and this one is no exception. The skintones are spectacular. Excellent painting :)

SoniaNotRed A nice start. More definition and tones would be great. Are you coming back to work on this?

Maladie Looking good so far! I think you've done a great job on the water and sand but could do with more muscle and tone definition on the figure. Her skintones are good but she needs more shading and colours in the shadows and muscle areas to make her really stand out. Nice work :)

SaraD Her face is looking beautiful so far, as is her skin! I look forward to seeing this one completed.

redjesus I really like your initial sketch. I start that way with paintings too and then fill them in as I go. One things that really struck me with your painting is that you need more variation in skin tone colour. The figure on the right should be significantly lighter than the others. I know you're still at the beginning anyway so maybe this is to be addressed :) Good work so far!

Matellis I love the originality! She rocks :) Individuality aside, nice work on the painting - especially the water and sand. Nice attention to detail. It looks almost real.

Gord I can't say much since you're at the very beginning but tones are looking good so far :)

Kwyjibo A good start with the black and white tones so far. I'll agree with Rebecca's advice to work on the blending between tones a little more. Have you tried a low opacity brush setting? That might help you blend more evenly.

pocanman I know what you mean by "should have chosen the other one"! :scream: It's a monster painting. Anyway, nice tone work so far. Are you going to finish this painting?

daWinky Wow! Pretty face :) Looking great so far and would love to see the rest.

Xillion I really admire the way you paint. I would love to be able to paint so with such a free flow as yours. Nice technique! I hope you finish this one because I think it could be very spectacular. Excellent work!

vnikolov I'm only seeing the arm and hair so far but it looks good!

mindofka Great spin on the painting! Nice work :)

pushav Wow, big improvement! I've always admired your abstract, loose sort of style but you've really tightened things up with this painting. She looks good!

Zepyhri A good start and I hope you finish! I've seen some of your other work and find it quite inspiring so I hope you come back to this one. A nice, quick start anyway :)

Pinoy McGee Love that torso focus! Nice work.

I'm going to end commenting here... there's so many of you! Next time I'll start the session on time instead of rushing in at the end so I can be more involved.

cypherx
03-15-2006, 02:37 AM
Yeah, Rebecca, I would like to eventually play with using white for highlights since I've never done that before.

and whoops, I already rubbed the face out, I really felt it didn't represent her too well before, and hopefully I'll be able to get it put back in with better results. Otherwise she'll just have a smudge for a face.

this is my last update for tonight, I'm tired and have work tomorrow. yay
http://direwire.com/images/Open_fig_stage2.jpg

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 02:37 AM
Awww Glenn,

You're doing more painting on these boards than I am ;) ~ please keep up the awesome work!!! :thumbsup:

Amerasu,

WOW, I don't know whether I'm more impressed with your painting or with the fact that you commented on everyone's painting! :eek: :thumbsup: Well, your painting turned out awesome, and I continue to be AMAZED at how quickly you can paint!!! :eek: I couldn't believe it earlier when you said you were going to finish today, but then I forgot who I was thinking of. :D

His legs are the only things that really stand out to me as being a wee bit unfinished. As for the rest, reallllly beautiful work!!! :bounce:

I really hope you'll submit this to the Finished Gallery ~ great stuff Amerasu, thanks so much for your amazing participation here!!!

cypherx,

Nice work!! I think later on you may want to think about adding emphasis to the apexes of the major curves of the figure for greater emphasis and sense of weight. Really nice progress here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Amerasu
03-15-2006, 03:14 AM
Rebecca, thanks for the feedback :) You're right, those hairy beast legs need a bit more work and I'll do that before I submit to the finished gallery. I can also see I'm missing a bit of the girly leg behind him. Poor thing, it's a wonder she can walk...

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 03:42 AM
LOL I would never have noticed that had you not pointed it out! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-15-2006, 04:22 AM
ok, now I am really going to bed, she wouldn't let me sleep without her having a face. Yeah, Rebecca, I'll see what I can do about giving her more curves as I go
thanks

http://direwire.com/images/Open_fig_stage3.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-15-2006, 09:39 AM
Hi...Amerasu...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ....:)

Cypherx // Jennifer ...:)

GREAT JOB on that face....really like the hair also...like your technique so far, think you
should try out the white highlight....might really add volume to the figure.
Keep up the GREAT WORK...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

cypherx
03-15-2006, 12:15 PM
Thanks Spirit, though I don't think white charcoal will help much on this one because I'm not using a toned paper. But for the next one I have time to participate in, perhaps I'll try pastels (though I've never used them) on green or brownish paper.

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 01:25 PM
cypherx,

Nice work on this! Do you plan on drawing the waves as welll? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-15-2006, 01:26 PM
Figured I would put my cellphone in this shot so you could see the scale I'm working on. This will be my last progress shot before the final, I think I posted enough already *blush*
I've worked in the bg a bit more, and worked on her feet some

edit- Oh yeah, I do plan on doing the waves.

http://direwire.com/images/Open_fig_stage4.jpg

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 01:29 PM
cypherx,

The face looks great! I think bringing the body up to that level without overpowering the viewer will be an interesting challenge. No worries about posting WIPs, that's what the thread is for. ;)

aggie93
03-15-2006, 01:42 PM
Cyph - All I can say is beautiful. Love your work!

Update. As you can tell, I did it, jumped in and did it. I went dark with this, probably ruin it but what the hell. I am tired of just copying. I stayed up until 2 AM, couldn't leave Allu alone.

Overall and Ms. Allu (gave her red hair and highlights)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060314Nymphsb.jpghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060314Nymphs_Allu_a.jpg

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 02:01 PM
Nice choice, Aggie. ;) It gives it a bit of spice. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-15-2006, 02:26 PM
thanks, Davey.

Eep, Rebecca, how will I be able to tell if it becomes overpowering? I'm not even sure if I know exactly what that means

cypherx
03-15-2006, 03:46 PM
well I have to stop for now, so I'm posting this one, not sure if I'll be able to finish, though there's still quite a bit of work I could do. Anyhow, I love these sorts of threads, thanks Rebecca... and let me know about the "too much" thing, because I'm still green.

http://direwire.com/images/Open_fig_stage5.jpg

aggie93
03-15-2006, 08:28 PM
Cyph - Absolutely gorgeous!:surprised I love the way your drawing is so strong yet smooth.:arteest: Everything is detailed even the crashing waves, something I had trouble with on mine earlier in this thread. (besides the elongated body, long story:banghead: ) And to top it off, in such short time. I am dumb-founded.:bowdown: I must see more of your work.:drool: I am a charcoal, pencil freak!

cypherx
03-15-2006, 09:40 PM
Thanks again, Davey. I'm quite fond of charcoal and graphite myself, though I consider myself to be more of a digital artist, I don't want to be one of those digtial artists who can only paint/draw on the computer. Besides, there's something terribly rewarding about getting super dirty and blowing your nose to find chunks of charcoal in the tissue paper. yay.

the waves are going to be difficult, for certain, so I can relate to your pain there. And getting the right proportions down is probably always the hardest part of the entire process for me. I can never see how people can work that out as they go along, it's something I have to bang out right away before shading or anything else. otherwise everthing will turn out completely off.

I couldn't seem to find your images of La Vague, or they're not showing up for me for whatever reason. and I commend all of you who took on the first painting, there were just too many elements in it for me.

aggie93
03-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Thanks again, Davey. I'm quite fond of charcoal and graphite myself, though I consider myself to be more of a digital artist, I don't want to be one of those digtial artists who can only paint/draw on the computer. Besides, there's something terribly rewarding about getting super dirty and blowing your nose to find chunks of charcoal in the tissue paper. yay.

the waves are going to be difficult, for certain, so I can relate to your pain there. And getting the right proportions down is probably always the hardest part of the entire process for me. I can never see how people can work that out as they go along, it's something I have to bang out right away before shading or anything else. otherwise everthing will turn out completely off.

I couldn't seem to find your images of La Vague, or they're not showing up for me for whatever reason. and I commend all of you who took on the first painting, there were just too many elements in it for me.

I usually end up with black marks on my face, hands, and everywhere else my fingers are. That is the fun of being an artist but hard to explain to others.

As for purportions, I normally try to get the figure down first loosely, then begin rendering lightly and add darkness as I build it up. I just started using color pencils, so I do not have a technique down. I am still playing around. I normally do not see the purportions until I can stand back from the piece and then I see it. My La Vague was on an 11" x 17" spiral and I sat down with it while I was in my hotel room at a convention.

I will PM you the link to my LV. As for complexity and elements, last month was the first time I had more than one character with Dente and the Nymphs have three females and one male but they are so intertwined. It is difficult, but I threw away the detailed pencil strokes to color my figures.

cypherx
03-16-2006, 10:20 AM
ahhh you used colour pencils, very difficult. I guess as long as we have fun with these, eh?

And does ANYONE know what Rebecca means by "overpowering the viewer"... if so could you please explain it to me? I know what overpowering means, obviously, but I don't know what it means in an artistic context, unless one is talking about fumes.

LoTekK
03-16-2006, 10:36 AM
cypherx: If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say she's referring to diluting the focus point for the viewer by having too many strong/detailed elements fighting for prominence. So right now, the face on your piece is standing out very nicely, detail and rendering wise. If you were to pump up the body to that level of detail and value, it may end up fighting for focus with the face, for example. That would be my guess, anyways. I'm horrible at judging focal points in my own stuff. :)

That said, yours is coming along really nicely. Charcoal's fun. I need to restock mine and try to get back into it. :p

edit: Looking back at both of your most recent updates, you may be pushing the values on the body a little much. The face stood out very nicely in the second-to-last update, with the body nicely defined, but delicate. Right now the body might be starting to fight with the face for prominence. But I'll reiterate my previous point about being an awful judge of focal points in my own stuff. :p

Maladie
03-16-2006, 12:17 PM
Cypherx, I'm stunned at your beautiful linework in such a short time!

Amerasu: thanks for the thoughtful comment. I can tell from your working speed and end result you've been doing this for quite a while.:) Do you maybe have a WIP thread I can check out to learn from, or something like that?

Everybody, I don't think I'll be doing more work on this. I have been atmitted to the second round of a 3D-art education I'd applied for (YEE!!). So now it's preparation time for the second round...

I'm also really bummed because I overblended the whole thing a little and still working with that crappy monitor. This means I'll have to do everything detailed like the face in seperate canvasses and I really don't like that. I'll definately join the next one though!! I'l just start in a huge canvas instead of 800 by 800:).

aggie93
03-16-2006, 12:45 PM
Cyph - I am with Tekk, I think she means too many focal points, foreshadowing. However, your latest rendering has put the focal on the girl. Make sure the waves do not come out to strong, soften them up. Maybe that is what she meant.

Here is what I did last night. My next succubus is not madusa, I just gave her snake features. Her tail is a king snake (red and black, friend of jack) and her hair is filled with venomous coral snakes (red and yellow, kill a fellow). Ms. Allu got bat wings that were very thin with a pinkish purple hint. You can see her viens through the thin membrane (that is if the picture wasn't so bad). Notice the end of her wings is attached at her tailbone of her spine.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060315Nymphsa.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060315Nymphs_cu_ls.jpg

cypherx
03-16-2006, 01:18 PM
LoTekK, I think that makes pretty good sense. I personally prefer my last version, but I do know some people prefer things that aren't too finished looking, like i have a friend who always prefers my stuff in the work in progress stage, and no matter what it looks like he thinks I should keep it really loose with loads of sketchie lines, which is great, but not my personal preference.
I am with aggie in thinking that the focal point was the girl as a whole, but I know what you mean, it's always hard to discern. I guess in the end worry less about what the viewer thinks (though taking it into consideration isn't a bad thing), and more about what you feel is right because while the viewer may look at what you've done once or twice, you're the one who has to live with the results knowing you could have done better, or at least been semi satisfied with the results.

Thanks, Maladie. It wasn't really a short time though, I worked on it for several hours. I'm pretty tenacious though, and a slave to the charcoal. I honestly feel like I didn't do most of the stuff I draw when I'm finished. Like someone took over and I was in lala land thru the process, wonder if anyone else gets like that. Good luck with your 3-D stuff, that's something I would never have the patience to do.

LoTekK
03-16-2006, 01:29 PM
No, I definitely get what you mean, and wasn't suggesting keeping it sketchy. I took another look at the two updates, and I think I know what's bugging me about the last one: the relatively heavy outlining going on. Don't get me wrong, you've done a fantastic job with the body (the subtle folds of skin, the elbow area, etc), but the bold black outline is bugging the hell out of me (most notably on her left arm). That said, the piece is coming along beautifully. Looks like you're tackling the waves just fine. :)

And I know what you mean about it being about you in the end. Sometimes I find myself in illustration mode, where it's less about yourself and more about everyone else (or rather, the client :p).

Like someone took over and I was in lala land thru the process, wonder if anyone else gets like that.
I'm sure we all get like that to some extent. ;)

Aggie, I'm liking how your piece is turning out; it's definitely an interesting direction you've taken it. Love to see you take this all the way through. :thumbsup:

Amerasu
03-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Maladie, congratulations on your acceptance! :)


I have a few WIPs on the Bouguereau and they're posted all over this thread though I've combined them here. You can click through to the large versions. I painted this one at 500 DPI, approx 1500 x 2200. Perhaps a bit small but it turned out fine. Definitely up your painting size so that you can zoom in for detailing and tiny bits of shading. It should really help.

I also wrote a digital anatomy painting tutorial for this forum a while back. It might be helpful. http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=308311


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_1.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_1.jpg)http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_2.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_2.jpg)http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_3.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_3.jpg)http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_4.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_4.jpg)http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_5.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_5.jpg)http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/sm_Bouguereau_final2.jpg (http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/Bouguereau_final2.jpg)

Rebeccak
03-16-2006, 02:00 PM
cypherx,

Sorry for the delayed response, but I think all of these guys expressed it much better than I could :D ~ basically I just meant rendering the body a bit more without taking too much emphasis away from the face. :)

Amerasu,

As always you know that I would love it if you would like to create a Tutorial on your step by step process ~ if so, feel free to call it TUTORIAL - *Title* - by Amerasu. Thanks for showing those steps here, it's great! :thumbsup: Also of course I hope you submit your piece to the Gallery! :)

Aggie,

Nice progress so far, and I hope one day we can convince you to go digital. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

cypherx
03-16-2006, 02:07 PM
LoTekK, sorry for it bugging the hell out of you, with most of my charcoal drawings I like to do that. Were I to do it in graphite, I'm able to have much softer edges that blend into the bg. I'm sure it's possible to do with charcoal, and hats off to those people who can, I'm just not one of them. Unlike many of the people here, I don't have the client to worry about as I don't do art as any sort of profession, it's just a hobby/obsession for me. Thanks again.

lol Rebecca I figured you were just ignoring me :p

Rebeccak
03-16-2006, 02:10 PM
cypherx,

LOL I try not to ignore people...:D...just busy with the ongoing CGWorkshop and such. :) I try to keep up with these threads as much as possible, but frankly it's more interesting for me to hear other peoples' advice and input than just hear myself speak, heh. :) It's great to see everyone giving so much advice and support, and I always enjoy hearing everyones' comments. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

LoTekK
03-16-2006, 02:19 PM
LoTekK, sorry for it bugging the hell out of you
Whoops, didn't mean for that to come across as harsh. :blush: Like I said, you've got a fantastic piece there. And contrary to what you said, it looks like you do have the chops to not rely on outlines. The aforementioned subtle skin folds and the like are testament to that. Which is probably why the outlining stood out to me. :)

Amerasu: That is positively gorgeous.Incredible work on the skintones, and lovely valves all round.

cypherx
03-16-2006, 02:24 PM
lol um ok... then just call it my style to outline the figure when using charcoal.

aggie93
03-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Amerasu - I like the little thumbnail progressions. You are really talented.

Cyph - You said it best that it is not want everyone else wants to see, but what you have to live with. I have some projects that I did not finish, like leaving a head off or legs and hands, but I felt that my work was done. I got it through and displayed enough to explain my art. We live with it and I would rather know that that was it. And as far as the dark lines are, I do the same thing. It brings the subject out to the front and creates a division between the subject and the background. Working traditionally it is harder to make that determination otherwise.

Reb - I would love to work in digital. Right now I cannot afford to get a tablet and software. I am sorry to disapoint everyone with working in traditional in a digital forum. You guys, however, have become family. And I have learned alot from here with the contacts I have made just in this thread alone.

Here are my references for my alterations:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/biomechanics_bat.jpg

Scarlet King Snake
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/sckng.jpg
Coral Snake
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/coral.jpg

LoTekK
03-16-2006, 03:39 PM
cypher: Fair enough, I should shut up now. :D
aggie: Why would you apologize? Your piece is looking great. :thumbsup:

Desole, Monsieur Bouguereau. Tres desole:

http://www.lotekk.com/files/lavague1.jpg

No, I have no idea what I was thinking. And yes, the proportions are botched big time. That's what I get for not laying down any guidemarks before diving in. :p

Rebeccak
03-16-2006, 03:41 PM
Wow, Teck, it's like Bouguereau crossed with "The Scream (http://www.mystudios.com/treasure/munch/munch-scream.jpg)" :D

aggie93
03-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Tekk - Thanks and I like yours!

LoTekK
03-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Wow, Teck, it's like Bouguereau crossed with "The Scream (http://www.mystudios.com/treasure/munch/munch-scream.jpg)" :D
Actually, more like Sin City. :D

Thanks aggie!

I gotta say, I really tip my hat to guys who can consistently do pure black and white stuff like this (Frank Miller, for example). It's bloody tough choosing what goes light and what goes dark! :argh:

aggie93
03-16-2006, 04:28 PM
Wow, Teck, it's like Bouguereau crossed with "The Scream (http://www.mystudios.com/treasure/munch/munch-scream.jpg)" :D

Reb - I was in Norway last summer and had my picture made right in front of the "Scream". A week and half later it was stolen. I may be on Interpol's most wanted.

SpiritDreamer
03-16-2006, 10:26 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Still working on my other versions but decided to have a little fun with this one.
Made the Satyr go from a defensive gesture to an offensive gesture.
Made the foreground nymph go from an offensive gesture to a defensive gesture.
Switched around the 'push and pull'.
Satyr now pulling the nymph into him while she is attempting to push him away.
Kind of like this idea. Makes more sense, knowing the nature of satyrs. LOL
Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_8.jpg

Rebeccak
03-16-2006, 11:33 PM
Glenn,

Very cool! I think that your style is really working well with the theme and subject of this master copy...the nymphs almost seem made out of molten lava or hot glass, which is a really interesting effect...looking forward to more updates!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-17-2006, 01:14 AM
THANK YOU .....Rebecca...:)
Trying out some of Burne Hogarths lighting techniques, on the night scene...good chance
to explore and practice...Dynamic Light and Shade....lots of refinements left to do, but
really learning a lot of new things on this one....Thanks for your support, help and advice
on this journy of learning....Rebecca...:thumbsup: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aggie93
03-17-2006, 01:50 PM
Morning to all you vacationer's of this thread. I guess it almost over. I want to finish this one. I do not know if I will be able to do OFDW 15. By the way Rebecca, what will be our reference for that one. Can I make a suggestion? We have been copying some great works, but maybe we should go back to real photograph poses for our reference. I have noticed in my own work I have resorted back to relying on the original artist's shadowing techniques and not my own rendering. Just a suggestion! :love:

Here is what I accomplished last night. As you can tell my satyre has turned into the male version of my alteration. He is called incubus. He has a normal human skull with ram horns (reference Grey' Anatomy book). My succubus behind him holding his head down is called "Baphomet", I found out through research. I used various antelopes to create her head. Took a while. I scanned this one in with my monochrome scanner. I will be working on my last woman this weekend, when I figure out her story.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060316_succubi_mono2.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/Gray_skull.jpghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/antelope.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-17-2006, 03:37 PM
Hi...Aggie // Davey...:)

Like what your comeing up with so far...mixing up the MYTHS pretty good there....:scream:
Still think you need to read ...Joseph Campbell...THE POWER OF MYTH....Will benifit your
story telling a LOT...and will also broaden your knowlege and view of the WORLD at the
same TIME...KNOW FROM WHERE YOUR STORIES COME, THEN YOU WILL KNOW BETTER
WHERE THEY ARE GOING....:)
I have been waiting to do a GREAT ..Caravaggio light and shadow study on this forum for
a long time now...would like to see that next...time for a vote I THINK...:)
I think on your drawing, you should go into it with some darker shadows to really give it
that extra punch and drama..keep up the GREAT WORK...you have a good IMAGINATION..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aggie93
03-17-2006, 04:04 PM
you should go into it with some darker shadows to really give it
that extra punch and drama..

Spirit - Thanks. I will look for that book. I tried to find a book of myths and folklore this weekend, but couldn't find one that was more of a reference instead of just a story book.

As for the shadows, I will be going back and rendering more on my characters to give more definition. It is still in a working state.

SpiritDreamer
03-18-2006, 01:14 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone

Working on my daytime version
Refining landscape and figures.
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_94.jpg

SoniaNotRed
03-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Tiago - Love the light in your painting! :thumbsup:

Amerasu - And the light in yours! :drool:
I'm having trouble with my internet but I'll see if I can still finish mine and post it.

aggie93 - Nope, not folded - A3 sheet on a A4 scanner. I was in a hurry... :p
Hey, you got a red succubus! :D
I like the altered characters but I notice that the incubus still has some reminescence of the satyre in his legs - they're a bit too thin below the calves, the feet a bit small, and the bones seem to far apart on his knee. Nothing some minor mending can't fix.

cypherx - Oh, that's cool! Personally I find charcoal messy and hard to control but it looks wonderful when used but someone who actually knows how to do it.

Great work everyone! :applause:

SpiritDreamer
03-19-2006, 07:24 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Worked on my night version today.
Starting to pick out details with light.
Hair on satyr's leg, grass, figures...next will do leaves, water, etc.
Just started trying this method to see if it would work.
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/sadyr_100.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/sadyr_100_close.jpg

daWinky
03-20-2006, 05:04 AM
Hi everyone!

Glad to see that I'm not the last one struggling here:) ! Unfortunately I had no time during the last 2 weeks, so my "final" is a little poor, but I don't wanted to leave this unfinished...A lot of great work in this OFDW:thumbsup: , I really like the variations of styles and media in this one and I hope to see you all in the next OFDW...

Have all a nice day!:wavey:

-sabrina

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/lavague_wip7.jpg

Amerasu
03-20-2006, 12:34 PM
daWinky She looks amazing! Very nicely done. Nice skintones and waves. The sand looks great too. The only thing that jumps out at me is that your girl seems a bit separated from the background, like she's been cut out with her edges too sharp. If you soften her edges with a tiny blur she'll probably sink nicely into the background. I do this all the time too. I work on the figures on one layer and the background on another so they sometimes look a bit separate. Blurring the edges a bit or smudging them usually works well for me. Anyway, great job!

Spirit Dreamer Now that's a very warm looking painting! I really love those red tones, especially the way they make the shadows seem so deep on the Satyr's face. Good stuff :)

aggie93 Love it! Nicely original take on the whole thing :thumbsup:

LoTekK Ha! That's great! More originality :) Now I feel bland by comparison, lol. I love those big, red lips!

SaraD
03-20-2006, 01:01 PM
OK, I just have to accept the fact that Im in a period where time for painting is non-existing:( But, Im lurking around, and follow your progress. And, Im impressed!

Keep it up, and keep posting!

:wavey::wavey:
Sara

Rebeccak
03-20-2006, 01:27 PM
Glenn,

Looking really cool! Do you plan to render this any further, or sort of leave it smoky and atmospheric? I can see it going either way. :)

Sabie,

Great to see you back! :cool: Amazing work on this, you really deserve congratulations!!! This is really beautiful, and I hope you will submit it to the finished Gallery. :arteest:

The one thing I might suggest spending just a bit more time on are the edges around her right thigh and buttock ~ they look just a bit wavery, which could be the compression, but the lines don't look quite as smooth as elsewhere in the painting. The water in the foreground (the white highlights) look just a little flat and undifferentiated, but that is a minor quibble compared to the great work you have done here. Great work Sabie, and I really hope you'll participate in the next OFDW as well! :bounce:

Come on, SaraD, we know you can do it! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-20-2006, 02:34 PM
Amerasu....THANK YOU...:)

dAWinky....BEAUTIFUL JOB...:thumbsup: ...If your using Painter program...nice brush among the
TINTING brushes....called ...SOFTENER ....great for doing edges...just softens, without
messing up color ect.

Hi ...Rebecca....:)
Trying out something new on the landscape and other areas of painting this morning...;)
I think that I have finally figured out how to get the effect that I WAS SEEKING.
Rembrant....Caravaggio ...combination...:bounce:

Will post it tonight ...:eek: ;)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-20-2006, 10:23 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Working on details of landscape and piece of cloth.
Still refining.
Trying to get a sparkle of light here and there, the way it does at night sometimes.
Almost magical.
Like the red glow in number one, but also like the more subtle skin colors in number two.
Too many versions, but the nice thing about digital is:
I get to keep them all - And learn from each one!
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_107.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_113.jpg

daWinky
03-21-2006, 05:02 AM
Good Morning!

Thank's Amerasu, Becca and Glenn for c&c, you're totally right, the figure (seperate layer) is too outstanding and I had problems with cleaning the outline:shrug: , so thank's for the tips, I'll try to fix this...and it's not for the finished gallery, Becca, I'm waiting until I have something I'm statisfied with:wise: ...btw, how about a new OFDW, I already thought there'll be a new one this week!?

Glenn, you're interpretations are always fascinating and the lighting in this one is just amazing!

-sabrina

Rebeccak
03-21-2006, 05:06 AM
LOL Sabie, I assure you a new OFDW will start on Monday. :)

BTW, what do you guys feel up for? Another master copy, maybe a Caravaggio? Or mix photo reference with Master Copy so folks have a choice?

Up to you guys. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

redjesus
03-21-2006, 05:34 AM
man i've had very very little time to work on this lately. using the mouse takes way longer than it should and makes the flow very unnatural, argh. i'm just gonna try and work as much on the satyr as possible since there isn't much time left. done so many wrong things (ie the picture i'm posting is the 100% view...) but i'm definitely am learning alot. i think i actually should learn how to swim in the shallow end first and maybe do some apples or something instead of people, but anyways here is the latest update.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/theredjesus/CGTalk/OFDW14_05.jpg

aggie93
03-21-2006, 06:08 AM
One day while walking in the Underworld, this incubus came upon some unsuspecting women bathing in a lake of fire. Being a male demon praying on love deprived females, he moves in and takes a peek while they play. When all at once the white haired woman, screams out and the females morph into succubi. The dominate white haired femal has a crown with one eye and hearts. She is covered in henna tattos, uniquely covering her stomach, breasts, neck and face. Her name is Lilith, Adam's first wife, created by God on the same level as Adam. She was outcasted because she thought she was better than the male species and God. Lamia literally has her tail sticking out at us. Lamia is a female demon that hangs around graveyards as a helpless woman. If you yell out at her and she doesn't answer, she is Lamia because her tongue is like that of a snake. This is why she is fitted with a large tail that is that of a king snake to lure in young males. Hence the rhyme, "red and black, friend of jack". Then when you get close, a pack of coral snakes come out of her blonde hair to get you. Hence the rhyme, "red and yellow, KILL a fellow". Pushing from behind, is the beautiful woman demon with the head of a goat called Baphomet. Pulling ever so gently is my favorite, Allu. She is the faceless demon with wings of a bat. She is the succubus that waits around a male's deathbed until they pass to take their soul to the Underworld and become Incubus.http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/sucetinc002.jpg

SoniaNotRed
03-21-2006, 09:37 AM
Finished yesterday. No internet to post it, though... Grrrr!


2.10 hours for the shading.
Stabilo Othelo 282 2.5HB pencil and cotton swab on A3 sheet of...er... not the best paper for sketching.
(I don't what this kind of paper is called in english. Around here we call it Cavalinho - "Horsie"! :D)

http://nekoi.no.sapo.pt/Asai/Vaga0001.jpg

I have to work on my patience...

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Hi...Rebecca....:)

A mixed bag, ..Caravaggio and photos sounds great to me...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 11:41 AM
Hi...Sabrina....:) ....THANKS ...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn


Hi.... Aggie // Davey....:)

Yours is truly a ....FEM ..FA ..TALE .....TALE IF EVER THERE WAS ONE....LOL!!:scream:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aggie93
03-21-2006, 01:49 PM
Sonj - ... that is what I call my wife (remember her name is Sonja, too)... I like your Le Vague. Great definition. I never heard of a 2.5HB.

Red J - Oh go ahead and jump in head first. That way you either swim or die trying. It looks good anyway. Keep up the pace.

Spirit - I like your dark yellowish one. Ever-flowing.

DaWinky - I like your colors. Reminds me of the Master painters of the era. The only crit I can see is that her head seems a little small for her body. I love your ocean. Its alive.

SaraD
03-21-2006, 01:54 PM
Come on, SaraD, we know you can do it! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

If you just handle over a couple of extra hours to my day:) Or, convince my boss that painting on my working hours is a good thing, and that the customers can wait.... What do you think - good perspectives on that one? :D

SoniaNotRed
03-21-2006, 06:10 PM
Hi aggie!

Yep, I remember. :)
Bought it on the subway. They're pretty good for writing and drawing, surprinsingly
That's a dangerous bunch of ladies you got there! So, you're all done then?
On to the next!

Ups! got to go!
(This internet connection will self-destruct in 30 seconds... 29...)
Arrggghh!

aggie93
03-21-2006, 06:20 PM
Hi aggie!

Yep, I remember. :)
Bought it on the subway. They're pretty good for writing and drawing, surprinsingly
That's a dangerous bunch of ladies you got there! So, you're all done then?
On to the next!

Ups! got to go!
(This internet connection will self-destruct in 30 seconds... 29...)
Arrggghh!

Sonj - not done, just tired of it for now. I got alot of other irons in the fire to deal with the background and the leg of the incubus. I went dark for a reason, to mix it up. I want to do more studies of angles and demons is another reason.

Don't stay gone long, get broadband!

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Still working on details of light and shadow.
Pushing some things back further into shadows
And bringing some things out further into the light.
Started details in foreground - water, flowers, ground, etc.
Just chipping away. Hardest part over. But the most important part ahead.
The Details.
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_117.jpg

daWinky
03-22-2006, 05:39 AM
Morning everyone!

I tried to clean and blur the outlines a little, hope this makes something, thank's for the tip...

Becca, I would also prefer a "mixed bag" for the next OFDW...and I really like Caravaggio's sleeping cupido...:)

redjesus, you're working with the mouse...respect:eek: ...the satyr is coming out very nice!

Aggie, you've made something very unique of the pic! Thank's for c&c, you think the head is too small:curious: ...I should check the proportions before painting next time...

Glenn, this looks even better now, great mood:thumbsup: ...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/lavague_wip8.jpg

-sabrina

aggie93
03-22-2006, 06:17 AM
you think the head is too small:curious: ...I should check the proportions before painting next time...

daWinky - Don't go off of my judgement, just look at the proportions of mine. Yours still looks better than my levague (early in this thread)

SpiritDreamer
03-22-2006, 09:35 AM
Hi....Sabrina....:)

Don't know how you did it, but you did....great job on those edges...:thumbsup:
BEAUTIFUL COLOR....like the pinks running throughout the painting, and
the softness you have achieved in the water and the figure....Whole painting
looks perfect to my eyes....Looking forward to seeing your next one...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

michael-olszak
03-22-2006, 01:25 PM
Cool, i thing i'll join. I'll see if i'll have some time for this after my Painting lessons tonight.
awesome work everyone, really good lookin stuff.

cheers

Rebeccak
03-22-2006, 02:02 PM
Aggie,

Nice work! Congrats on finishing your piece! :) As I mentioned, I think you're becoming more confident in your figures, which is great to see. :)

SoniaNotRed,

Really nice, sensitive drawing! Lovely ~ the only thing I would say is that the lower legs look just a bit small / thin. Apart from that, I really like your linework and the way you've modeled forms. Great to have your participation! :thumbsup:

Glenn,

Coming along nicely! I really like the smokey amber atmosphere to your piece. It might still be nice to render just a few carefully selected areas...keep going! :thumbsup:

Sabie,

WOW, really beautiful job!!! I think you did a great job with the edges, without blurring them too much ~ she now feels so much more a part of the scene, and fits in beautifully. Great work!! I definitely hope you submit this to the Gallery! :bounce:

EDIT:
Whoops, michael-olszak, missed seeing your post! Looking forward to your joining in! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Zapan
03-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Dammit !! I failed my cheering business here !! :banghead: :blush:

Awesome progress everyone , and a special hug to Sabie !! Wow awesome painting !!
Just for this kind of picture and of course the Flossy , you definitely should open your CGportfolio ... un-subtle hint *whistle*

cheers ,

-Steph

Rebeccak
03-22-2006, 04:39 PM
Steph,

Surely you are not forgetting your cheering duties! :eek: :D Totally kidding you, it's been great to follow your awesome progress in your Challenge Thread...go go Snelf! :scream:

Chears! :)

SoniaNotRed
03-22-2006, 05:00 PM
aggie93 - Oh! Go "rest your eyes", then. :)
I'm afraid not even Xtrabroadband would save me! I'm sure it's something in Windows that's shutting it down. Switching from Explorer to Opera didn't help either. I suppose I'll just have to go nag someone down at the Hardware forum. Again... :p


Rebeccak - Thank you. :)
Yeah, you're right! (It looks so more obvious now that it's posted! :scream: Second time I mess up the legs... doh!)
And here I was talking about the legs of aggie's poor incubus! :blush:
I guess I chipped off a bit too many...

SpiritDreamer
03-22-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Worked on satyr. Gave him fuller beard and aged his face a little. More distiquished looking now I think. LOL Also worked on bottom curve of his upper arm and gave foreground nymph a hand. Put twist folds in piece of cloth. Gave satyr thicker thigh. Still need to do his forearms and hands. Started putting leaves in upper left corner. And cleaned up left hip line of foreground nymph. Just chipping away at details and fine tuning. Will put more detail and clarity in extreme foreground last.
Take Care
Glenn



http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_117a.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satry_123a.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satry_123.jpg

pushav
03-23-2006, 12:47 AM
Verdell: good to see you again and nice going with your copy :)

Thank you very much. I have not looked at this thread in a few weeks now lol. I did not even finish mine yet.

daWinky
03-23-2006, 09:04 AM
Good morning everyone!

Davey: daWinky - Don't go off of my judgement, just look at the proportions of mine
Hehe, just didn't see my fault before, you're right of course, checked it with an overlay, it seems to be easier to recognize disproportion in other people's painting...painting a while on a pic I seem to lose any objectivity...one of the reasons that I'm always happy to have some c&c...:)
Glenn: Your tip with the softener in painter was great, thank's!:bowdown: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
Your work on the satyr looks very good, looking forward to more details now!

Becca: Thank's for the encouragement, I'll try to submit it to the gallery, time to finish something:blush: ...

Stph: Thank's for the hug, but you're of course excused with your challenge work... and I understand your "unsubtle hint":D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#), just home again since yesterday...the portfolio will come...soon...

-sabrina

aggie93
03-23-2006, 01:53 PM
And here I was talking about the legs of aggie's poor incubus! :blush: ...

:sad: .... just kidding!

SpiritDreamer
03-23-2006, 11:20 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Worked on details of hands and arms also put red in the darkest areas of satyr, his hair, beard, skin, etc.
#2 is just an experiment with light and color that I played around with when I got tired of working on details.
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_149.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_147.jpg

metacom
03-24-2006, 04:48 AM
hey everyone i never got to finish my drawing because ive been trying to graduate....but im gonna try and start back up on it....this is what i have so far..nothing speacial....and i might get a wacom tablet for my graduation, and if i do, you can bet im going to try and add color to the picture! oh and i know this is off the topic but if yall want you can check out my demo reel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbSqlGJ2-as the quality sucks and the music is off...but i guess thats the best it can get on the site. later.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/metacom/03.jpg

Amerasu
03-24-2006, 12:30 PM
metacom - She's looking good so far! I think your outline is very well done and is captured well. Couple of problem areas I see are her face and her hands, both of which need some more work to bring them more in line with the painting. I can see that you've only just started shading and I think this drawing is going to look great once you finish up, if you have time. Nice job of it! :)

I don't know too much about demo reels but yours seems very well balanced with lots of different things shown. I think you did a fantastic job on the church, inside and out. Good work. The gun box was great too. :)

SpiritDreamer - Great stuff as usual. It's all slowly coming together and looking good. I like how you've differentiated the skin tones on all people and without too much complicated little detail painting, you've totally brought this piece to light just with shapes and tones. That's inspiring :)

Rebecca - Is it almost time for a new OFDW? Please say yes! :bounce:

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 12:52 PM
Glenn,

Beautiful atmosphere! The one thing I'm not as crazy about is the cloth / water element coming from the ground...it seems a bit contrived, and takes away from the nicely hazy atmosphere that you have...and as the most focused object, it becomes the subject, which is confusing since it's hard at this point to say what it is. Hmm, what, btw, is it? :D :)

metacom,

I think you did a nice job on this figure, and I hope you will be working digitally soon! :thumbsup: It was nice to see your demo reel, but you don't plan to present it from YouTube, I hope? ;) Looking forward to your participation in future OFDWs! :)

Amerasu,

Thanks for all the great comments! Yep, a new OFDW opens late Sunday, early Monday. :) I think I'll find a nice Caravaggio or two as well as throw in some Hong Ly reference for good measure and variety. Hope to see everyone here back for OFDW 015! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-24-2006, 02:30 PM
Amerasu....THANKS....:)


Rebecca....not sure that I understand what you just said...should I soften the cloth,...get rid of it....is the whole cloth distracting, or just the bottom part by the waters edge. Do I need to render it more, or less ...not sure...
IT'S the brightest part in the original painting....meant to bring the focus to the main figures
face....I think...when you get some time, let me know in more detail about what you just said,
and I will fix it if I can....:shrug: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 02:53 PM
Hi Glenn, :)

It's totally just my personal opinion, feel free to just ignore me. :D :) I think the cloth is distracting and looks really distinct in style from the rest of the really softly atmospheric picture you've constructed...and I can't tell if it's cloth, or water that has a mind of it's own, so it's a little bit confusing. :)

But, of course it's totally up to you...to me it just stands out as distinct from the rest of the picture.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-24-2006, 03:29 PM
LOL!!.....Rebecca.....:eek:

MRS SPIRIT DREAMER told me the exact same thing a couple of days ago, that you just told me. Of course I ignored her...being stuborn as I AM, and of course knowing more about ART
than her..LOL!! ...and again of course being the fool that I am at times, I LEFT IT THE WAY IT WAS. But as any fool knows, when TWO WOMEN tell you that your wrong...it is time to LISTEN.:scream:
I just softened it up....looks like it belongs now...much better...I THINK ..LOL!!
Will post it tonight, to see if it passes the test...LOL!!:eek: :)

PS...Mrs Spirit Dreamer... My better half... will be working on that CG net working thing this weekend.....THANKS AGAIN...Rebecca..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 03:35 PM
Glenn,

LOL ~ women are always right! :scream:

Cheers, ;)

~Rebeccak

Maladie
03-24-2006, 04:25 PM
Rebecca, could you tell me how I find out about OFDW 015 starting? I wouldn't want to miss out:).

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 04:29 PM
Heya Maladie, :)

Look for OFDW 015 late this Sunday / early Monday. I usually try to post the new OFDW around midnight Sunday (my time, US EST). But that's an approximation, so I like to give a bit of leeway. Even mods have lives. :D

Generally, I announce the latest OFDW on the CGSociety Forum, the General Discussion Forum, the Art Theories and Techniques Forum, and the WIP 2D Forum ~ plus you'll see it when you visit the Anatomy Forum ~ so I'd say it would be pretty hard to miss. :D

Looking forward to your participation here!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-24-2006, 11:15 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Working on cloth and the area between satyr and the two nymphs who are making arm contact with him. Made cloth softer to go with the rest of the picture more and re-shaped it to go around the leg of far nymph, exposing her leg in the process.
Still a lot of work in that center area of figures to do.
Plus the foreground etc.
Learning a whole lot on the painting as I go. And thanks alot Rebecca for pointing that cloth out to me.
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_150.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_153.jpg

metacom
03-25-2006, 04:01 AM
just want to say thanks to Amerasu and Rebeccak for their compliments. i had my graduation today!!! now i gotta find a job. i dont plan on presenting my demo reel to any companies through youtube, i just put it up on there for some friends to check out....i need to make a website. and i got my wacom tablet today...my girlfriend got me one for graduation, so today i was trying it out...its gonna take some time to get used to it...but im excited.

Rebeccak
03-25-2006, 01:43 PM
Congratulations, metacom! :)

You ought to look into creating your own CGPortfolio:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=331181

As a CGTalk member, you can upload 5 images to what amounts to your own webpage, with your own URL. For example, here is my CGPortfolio:

http://rebeccak.cgsociety.org/gallery/

(I'm a CGSociety member, so I can upload more than 5 images). But the features for a free CGTalk member are still really cool! This is one of the biggest things CGTalk has done in a while, and I would encourage everyone to take advantage...it's much easier than creating your own webpage.

The one downside of using CGP as your only webpage is that a potential employer gets to see all of your competition. ;) However, bear in mind that people are posting stuff from all over the world, so you're not likely to be in hot competition from someone in Canada if you are living in Peru, for example. :) So it's definitely something to look into.

Down the line they also plan to have animation hosting, so that's further incentive to look into it. :)

/CGP plug. ;)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

metacom
03-25-2006, 02:03 PM
thanks alot rebekkah, seems like a good place to start, i can put alot of stuff on that. thanks for leading me in a good direction.

SpiritDreamer
03-26-2006, 10:13 PM
Hi Rebecca and everyone
Worked on refining hands and center area of figures.
I put a smile on the nymph...not sure if I am going to keep it or not...
Need some opinions on the smile...I have about 20 different versions of her face....after twelve hours on this today, I am going a little blind. Help! :scream:
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_180_close.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_180.jpg

Rebeccak
03-26-2006, 10:57 PM
Everyone,

A huge THANK YOU to all of you who participated, both as artists and as cheerleaders, here on the OFDW 014!! :applause: Everyone did a FANTASTIC job, and it's so inspiring to see so much great work popping up everyday on the forum!! :arteest:I'm happy to announce that OFDW 015 has started, and can be found here:


Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Caravaggio Master Copy / Reference - with Rebeccak 015 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3389909#post3389909)

I can't wait to see the work everyone does for OFDW 015, and I hope to see everyone there! :bounce:

Please note that while OFDW 015 has started, folks are still free to post here on OFDW 014 until such time as they have completed their paintings. However, I encourage people to move on quickly to the next OFDW, as it is much more fun to work within the group. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
03-28-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone

About had enough of this one for awhile.
Ended up with 10 decent versions all different in color lighting and expression.
Liked this one the best at the moment so thought I would post it.

Also tried out Zbrush for the very first time this morning.
Posted my very first Zbrush work, a demon's head, on my personal thread in case anyone is interested.

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_196.jpg

Rebeccak
03-28-2006, 11:06 PM
I think this came to a nice resolution, Glenn! I really love the warm tones and the soft feel to this. Nice work! Looking forward to seeing your work for OFDW 015. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
04-07-2006, 03:30 PM
Photoshop 7 + ArtRage 2


http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3797/7502cq.jpg

Rebeccak
04-07-2006, 03:32 PM
Wow, it's great to see zhuzhu back in force! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Love the brushstrokes...the pink against the green is sublime. :thumbsup:

Also, it's great to see your CGPortfolio up! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhuzhu
04-07-2006, 03:34 PM
wow~~~! Rebeccak, your reply's speed just too quick~~~!!!:eek:

Rebeccak
04-07-2006, 03:36 PM
LOL ~ you're right. :D But your painting may be faster than my posting. :) :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
04-07-2006, 04:04 PM
GREAT ONE....Zhuzhu....has that same spontaneity and freshness that you captue so well in your water colors....also like the background.... looks like a drama on stage....NICE...:thumbsup: :applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

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