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xtrm3d
12-11-2002, 08:23 PM
sssoo.. i am now sure and 100 % sure to do some animation with the whole stuff i did around jack napalm and would use them for my early 2003 show reel...

as first the new jack napalm version../ new shader/new morphe target / and better rigging :p

http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/jack.jpg

xtrm3d
12-11-2002, 08:27 PM
now ... 2 new version from the smallbutuglyblueflyingnazi
:shrug: http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/smallbuttuglyblueflyngnazzy.jpg

a updated version for the pilote.. and an armored one for a sort of shock trooper .. getting the true evil stormtrooper way..
would add some weapon later this week..

xtrm3d
12-11-2002, 08:29 PM
now a new war machine... the walker !!!
big and nasty

the lower part is only as place holder for the moment juste borowed it from the lw object collection.. .. would modell it later this week .. :shrug: http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/walker1.jpg

xtrm3d
12-11-2002, 08:32 PM
and as last for today.. a scal comparaison.. betwenn the new walker 2 soldier and a moskito plane..
mai be the final walker should be a bit smaller ?
the texture from the walker should be done in the same stykle as the moskito.. old and dirty..
believe me .. more stuff are in the pipeline...
:shrug: http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/walker2.jpg

policarpo
12-11-2002, 08:36 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:
WOW...these ROCK!!!

i think your proportions are right on!

Tylak
12-11-2002, 08:45 PM
kick ass, texture those walkers!

Ramzes_II
12-11-2002, 08:47 PM
Cool Concepts, Nice models...as I suppose the textures are in progress ? I don't wanna miss the finished animation.

Good Luck !

prayas
12-11-2002, 08:51 PM
butugly? they are cool! I like the stormtrooper idea. Is it same concept and base figure as the flying guy?
The walker is IMO a bit to big. For the texturing idea i find old'n'dirteeeee a good color match for this"buttuglyguys"
Where is this f****ng cool vodkatruck. I miss this one really much.
Great work.
P..:

Remi
12-11-2002, 09:04 PM
Nice work...I personally like the original smallbutuglyblueflyingnazi myself but to each his own...great work..:thumbsup:

proton
12-11-2002, 10:19 PM
WOW....cool as usual....keep it coming!

kurt30
12-11-2002, 11:46 PM
Can anyone one say...jaw dropping??

I love those bad guys! I see an animated Christmas special in the works! How Jack Napalm saved Christmas!

kurt30
12-11-2002, 11:49 PM
Any update on when the 2003 reel will be completed? GOtta reserve my copy!

r0bal
12-12-2002, 11:53 AM
This is just awesome work! :applause:
Can't wait for the demoreel! Try to specify the date I will count days :D

raden
12-12-2002, 12:15 PM
Howza xtrm3d,

So you're Napalm's father! Man glad to find you here. I love Napalm:bounce: & all of his planes and trucks. Man wish some toy company would buy the license and manufacture them. I'd buy them all :bounce: .

Okay now back to the smallbutuglybluelfyingnazi he..he..cute name:p I dig the storm trooper one. Cute sick ugly dude. That stupid skull mask with those tiny fangs... yukks. And his belly, man would be hillarious in the anim:D
So gotta say great work xtrm:thumbsup: I'm looking forward for the textured pics.

Love yr style man:beer:

xtrm3d
12-12-2002, 12:28 PM
thx for the kind reply...
if someon have acces to a 3d printer.. let me know.... the price please..
then i would start my own toy colection.. :-)

ok..
i go back to the stuff and try to get an update later this day.. :p
:wip: :wip: :wip:

MCGrund
12-12-2002, 12:34 PM
Great Work xtrm3d!
I'd like the stormtrooper guy to be a bit dirtier, too. But that's of course your decision.
Waiting for more to come.

xtrm3d
12-13-2002, 10:21 PM
the walker modelling is done.. may be i would do some minore change but i think that the overall designe /size finale ist..
:wip: :wip: :wip:

xtrm3d
12-13-2002, 10:24 PM
and now a rendering ...
the next update would be the textured one :-) http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/walker3.jpg :wip: :wip: :wip: :wip: :shrug:

Grayscale
12-13-2002, 10:31 PM
hey X,
These guys look great. I can see some really funny animations coming from this project.

raden
12-13-2002, 11:31 PM
!looking good looking good Xtrm!
:thumbsup:


anyway I think I change my mind, that blue mouthed black rubber monkey looks sexier than his stormtrooper fella:cool:

yep animations, animations, animations:drumrock:


see ya:wavey:

PS: hey X you got funny handwriting:)

Skyraider3D
12-13-2002, 11:35 PM
I really like your models, but the main body of that 'walker' model is a bit poor, to be very honest. It's too soft and undefined in its shape, I think. It screams for some sharp edges and details. Just to make it more convincing. The hatches on the front and the back are a good touch. Expand that style further to give it less of a "blobby" appearance. For starters you could make the gun barrel openings more defined. I hope you see what I mean :) Try to get it more in the style of the legs (maybe add some grills or something?) as those are absolutely brill!
Other than that... rock on! :bounce:

Koma
12-13-2002, 11:37 PM
wonderfull ,je decelle une inspiration star wars dans votre travail maitre ,and i want a jack napalm toy .keep it up xtrm3d

MCGrund
12-14-2002, 06:39 PM
the Walker looks really good so far but like Skyraider3D I also think that the upper part needs more definition especially since the legs a very detailed.

xtrm3d
12-15-2002, 07:54 PM
http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/walker4.jpg

ok now the texture is done..
dont ask me where i digged the pinup.. and no i dont draw it..
i just scanned it from a book..

@ twisted-ankle/skyraider3d
yep you are right with the body..
are this better now with textur ?`if not then i should find a solution cause this meshe is really heavy and take time to render..

@raden
thanx for the comment..
i did hand write it..
it´s juste a free font...
123...ttf is the name of it

@koma
hhhooo oui va y mon poussin .. appelle moi encore master ca me fait bander !!!!:drool:

xtrm3d
12-15-2002, 08:16 PM
just putting a part of the stuff to see how they fit together...
huummm.. me happy .. :-)http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/groupbild.jpg

theDunadan
12-15-2002, 08:17 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Nice texturing Christophe, I think you could do a bit more work on the specularmaps for the torso though, as the whole thing doesn't look quite like a metallic surface, somewhat too dull.

I think i told you yesterday already that I don't like the look of the gloves as they still look somewhat rigid and static, but othewise I really like these little evil buggers. Hope to see some animation with them sometime soon.

And while doing all this nice 3d stuff don't forget to give Bounty a nice long walkie ... the poor dog ;)

Koma
12-15-2002, 08:21 PM
really nice ,the whole thing fit perfectly ,alors pour quand le film:thumbsup: :thumbsup: deserve about 15 start he he

Commiekeebler
12-15-2002, 08:52 PM
What does it say on the red truck? "Vodka"?

If it was meant to be in Russian, it's not correct... :/
I can help with that tho. Just private message me if you need spelling to be 'authentic'... as much as it applies to little blue nazis... :)

raden
12-15-2002, 10:00 PM
:thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup:

Hella cool texturing Xtrm!
I really like that dogpalms ha..ha.. whatta brilliant touch:D


Animate Go Go Go :drumrock:


PS: just a little something, maybe you can change the rockethead colour? blue isnt nasty & mean enough for something that'll blow your head off :p and oh those blue seamlines/screws on the plane need a bit of work since it doesnt look fit with the rest of the texture, i dunno..not sure..
nevermind it a GOOD work already:beer:

r0bal
12-15-2002, 10:21 PM
This is simply perfect! :applause:
I really love this toy like style.
The textures are great but I think that the labels like the star on the plane should cover the bump details.

MCGrund
12-16-2002, 08:07 AM
Verrrrrry Nice texturing job xtrm3d!
Now that the upper part is textured the lack of detail isn't obvious any longer. You could still go for some more details but I don't think that this is a must.
:eek:
Beautiful Work

ThomasHelzle
12-16-2002, 12:30 PM
Hey, that is really great!
I normaly don't like "walkers", but this one has your own, special very organic and convincing look - and the little happy blue mouthed guy that is soooo happy to have a new toy is very sweet ;-)
Is it just me or is the image quite dark?

:thumbsup:

CU

Thomas

kurt30
12-16-2002, 12:48 PM
Oh man, that's looking so awesome! Very tactile and convincingly real. Makes me wanna get the entire collection as toys and sit them on my desk!:applause:

any animation coming up??

policarpo
12-16-2002, 01:46 PM
these are just great !!!

i can't wait to see a huge 4 foot by 6 foot poster of the Walker and its Black Suited pilot asking me to Join the World Army to help the cause!

your objects make me feel nostalgic for the period of WWII i never got to experience.

keep it up!

Flog
12-16-2002, 04:17 PM
Your work has character, lots and lots of character!!!
Great work!!!

Skyraider3D
12-16-2002, 10:46 PM
O with the textures on the body it is LOADS better!!!
I love the spotlights underneath!
Truly excellent work!

The only thing that could benifit from changing now is perhaps the references to the whole nazi thing maybe? The characters are way too cool and cute to be related to real horrors such as WW2 and the Third Reich... (...says the guy who makes Nazi what-if planes... hmm...)

xtrm3d
12-17-2002, 12:20 AM
hi skyraider3d..
thanx for the comment..
but i could not agree with you for the thing about the nzi looking stuff.. ..

please dont feel offended i just try to explain my point of view ,
nothing personaly.. but i am tirred of getting angry mail about these object
sorry for my bad english in advance..
may be this is my weird french humor.. but i think we need ironie in this grey world....
my small blue guys .. look bad, dumb, nasty and incompetant.. like the true one are in they brain empty head..poo eating scum
and believe me cause i live in berlin .. and i have some specimen of them here in my neightborhood.....

this is funny you aked about this..
cause some day ago i got a discussion with a friend of mine who was deranger with the name " jack napalm ".. he tell me that he think the name napalm was a bad thing cause the simple word napalm remembered him of this poor small vietamese girl running away with here back burning and the cloud of napalm rising in the sky behind..
he tell me that he fell the name " jack napalm " was so terrible as " jack zyclon b "

then i start thinking of changing the name and the nazzi stuff..
but i could not found wich nationality i should use without having to fear the wraith of historian...

some exemple :

frenche ? / we killed and plundered too much country in north afrika and other colony along the century of our history..

amerika ? / humm you know the napalm stuff.. , the sclaev from afrika and the thing with the original american nativ.. ( les indiens )

japan ? / did they not comit atrocity in they war again chin in the 30´s ?

china / look at the tibet thing

russia / think of the jewish and armenian genocide stallin did

england / the colonisation of india and the war again the zulu nation

spanien / did you see wath pizzaro did ion the sud amerika continent

and i could add so much country to this list

dont understand me wrong ..
but for the context of this project i have to give them some nationality..and wathever i choose they would alway be people complain about that..

and thus i did a mix betwen russian look and american name for the hero and a typical nazi look for the bad guy ..
russian - america : good
nazi : bad


or did someone sended angry mail to spielberg after showing nazzi in indianna jones movies


ok now the pression is out and i fell better ..
one time more.. dear skyraider3d..dont feel concerned.. cause you juste asked..
but this is may be the 100 time.. :-)

policarpo
12-17-2002, 12:27 AM
xtrm3d: i wouldn't change a thing. keep the colors and signs and symbols you are using.

if people read it as a nazi symbol then i think they are just looking for something to complain about.

symbolism and assocation is how we communicate in modern story telling. you are doing a great job with these characters and the objects which inhabit this world.

the work and universe you are creating with these characters is very post World War 2...so the look and feel is spot on with that.

i wouldn't change a thing.

if you do...i will find you and make you change it all back!

:)

xtrm3d
12-17-2002, 02:02 PM
ok.. the story is going on..
now let us have a look at the mad scientist/dictator
how do you think ?? about it ??

proton
12-17-2002, 02:09 PM
You need to get this stuff signed as a movie......too cool...

Have you thought about creating a team of artists to help make this an animated short. I saw that Lost Pencil did some animation tests with you....you should put together a small team of about 6 artists and do an animated short to pitch as a full blown movie...

ckaos@om
12-17-2002, 02:10 PM
THat scientist looks great love his hair and "expression", but i think somethink is wrong with the area at the back of his head. It might just be the lighting.
I love the overall feeling of these characters, reminds of some litlle model dioramas!
Keep'em comming !!!:thumbsup:

DaKrunch
12-17-2002, 02:27 PM
never mind! I believe that even spieberg received angry letters!

:annoyed:

well i just wanted to say one more thing about the walkers...

don't they have small feet? how do they stand and walk on them if they get hit (even slightly!)

i love your work go on!:thumbsup:

OZ
12-17-2002, 02:33 PM
superwroxxxx!!:eek: :beer: :applause: bravo!

MCGrund
12-17-2002, 02:59 PM
Yeah, a short would be great!!!
Compared to the other characters the mad guy's head looks rather realistic, I mean his proportions are much closer to the human anatomy than the proportions of the other characters. So I don't know if he will fit in too well.
But has there ever been a mad scientist that fit in???

kurt30
12-17-2002, 03:17 PM
Scientist looks bad-ass.

Regarding the political and historical references, I wouldn't change a thing. Let's keep the forums away from Politics and focused on cool ass graphics.

Great work xtrm3d

:bounce:

AshodT
12-17-2002, 03:23 PM
woow!! jaodre ton style mec,you're my idole.

as for the historic part,its not stallin that killed armenians (im one of them) but turkish people....

anyway,keep it up,et jespere voir l'animation tres bientot!!:beer:

beyondMyth
12-17-2002, 03:51 PM
wow! your work is just great! :buttrock: i love the characters and i'd love to see the 2003 demoreel when you're done!! :) *peace*

rage288
12-17-2002, 04:29 PM
awesome!
i like the potential of the chars and the machines, very very cool!
keep it going!

NelsonInomvan
12-17-2002, 04:35 PM
This guy that looks like a super hero rocks. Heheeh nice cartoony style i like it. Keep up the good work and show us some animations

insect666
12-17-2002, 05:18 PM
I won't say anything unique here...

It's totaly AWESOME! :bounce: Good work! :applause:

Miyazaki
12-17-2002, 05:28 PM
Wow! These models are so coooool. Great work. :thumbsup:

Per-Anders
12-17-2002, 06:41 PM
i love the models and the style (the blurred black) so nice, keep up the good work, can't wait to see the animation.

john doe
12-17-2002, 07:12 PM
very cool modeling, i saw your 3dworks at some other website and totally love it. I like the proportion of your hero, i think its a very cool design. However i think the design or look of your mad scientist does not match the others. (maybe bcos haven seen the body yet)

The Magic Pen
12-17-2002, 07:54 PM
:airguitar ................. :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

satanatron
12-17-2002, 09:53 PM
awesome work...

coupon
12-17-2002, 10:40 PM
WOW... etc, nice work, a good extension on the napalm mythos, i really like the way you've modified the swastika, not 100% necessary, but definitely considerate, keep it up!

xtrm3d
12-18-2002, 01:14 AM
whhhooaaaghhh...:bounce: :bounce:
over 3950 view and 55 reply.. awessome.. for me...

ok.. now after reading all the critique and comment about th emad scientist..
i did a new version and i am slighty happy with it cause i think that he now better blend with the other thing around..

and you ? how do you think ? if everyone is happy i would start with the body... :-)http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/savantruf3.jpg

Koma
12-18-2002, 01:17 AM
yep better ,j essayerais p-t un plus petit cou de coter et un gros moton de gras qui pends sur le bord de la chemise ,et p-t un peu plus de grisatre dans les cheveux et des petits boute frisser .

a short ashort a short ,we all wanna see this on big screen keep it up man:buttrock: you wrox !!!

facial
12-18-2002, 01:58 AM
:buttrock: :buttrock: :D :thumbsup:

mohh
12-18-2002, 02:04 AM
Awesome work X, keep them coming! :buttrock:

Triadis
12-18-2002, 03:27 AM
Every thing looks great.

The only thing that stands out to me is that when the Mad Scientit's mouth is open something looks kind of weird. I think it's because he has no teeth. It seems if he had some teeth he would look more complete. He looks fine with his mouth closed.

-Alex

MCGrund
12-18-2002, 06:56 AM
Yes Sirrr,
much better now, waiting for more to come.

-JT-
12-18-2002, 08:04 AM
Argh that looks good, i like your style a lot, keep on the good work !!! :)

Btw are u french or german ?

kurt30
12-18-2002, 12:12 PM
I love the look. The bluish tint on his forehead gives him that dark evil glow!

I would love to see a quick morph test of the expressions!

Great Work!

AciDRaiN
12-18-2002, 07:01 PM
:buttrock: wooohooo ! i love it ! :D

xtrm3d u should really make a movie with the smallbutuglybluelfyingnazis. They remind me of the "Meinzelmännchen" :D

xtrm3d
12-19-2002, 06:53 AM
@ acidrain : hi was meint du mit meinzelmännchen.. ich wohnne zeit einig zeite in deutchland.. aber von dem type noch nie was gehört ???:shrug:

@ kurt : yep i would do some expression anim test and some quicktime-vr with the object in a next time

@-jt- : non, non .. je sui francais.. mais j habite a berlin depuis environ 10 ans ...merci pour le compliment

@ triadis : yep man .. you are truly right.. i would add some theet and face features.. after doing the body

and to the other...
really big thanx for compliment,crittiques and for keeping this thread up ...
yes i think about an true animation..sure.. but i would need in a first stime to find people wanting to help..
but my firsrt idea/wish .. would be to do some 3d print and do an action toy serie
did one of you work at mattel ??? :drool:


ok for now.. just put jack and günther ( not definitive name ) together tosee how there style fit..
humm .. i think i am relative happy .. may be some minor change to do... but yes.... me happy

the next update would be the body ( hope to find time between the christmas day )

MCGrund
12-19-2002, 07:44 AM
xtrm3d,
link zu den Mainzelmännchen.
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/0,1872,2005825,00.html

kurt30
12-19-2002, 03:36 PM
very nice!

policarpo
12-19-2002, 03:40 PM
very very cool!

i love the look...i was wondering how it would look if the scientist's eyes were dilated...ya know...large black pupils...cause he's really mad and aroused by doing his evil duties?

keep up the awesome work!!

xtrm3d
12-19-2002, 08:43 PM
http://www.xtrm3d.com/temp/savantruf6.jpg


well, well ...

the body of the evilscientist is now near finished..
i would work on the shading later, give him some theet..and may be change the glove to something more rubberish

i throwed jack in the compo .. as alway to see if they still fit together...

c´mon folk ripp me appart ... with comment critique and suggestion

policarpo
12-19-2002, 08:47 PM
looking good!

but one thing...his shirt collar seems a little large...just a little...his lab coat style makes me think that his shirt collar wouldn't be so flaired ya know.

less gaultier and more hugo boss.

other than that...:buttrock:

Tennis
12-19-2002, 08:50 PM
yay! your characters are very cool, reminds me of metal slug (neo-geo arcade game) just in 3d. Keep it up man.

Daniel
12-19-2002, 08:54 PM
well, look cool yes :buttrock:
But I can't imagine how a anim with that guys would look...or in which direction it would go :D

Hmmm, how about to give the mad scientist a Glas (with something inside) into his hand.
Like he's working on a experiment..hehe.

OR...hmmmm, or...model a DOG (his latest experiment).
A war mashine...A Big Black Dog...:wip:
OR any other creature he made...
hehe...think about it.

Cya.

Isrithe
12-19-2002, 09:04 PM
Great Stuff!!!

Remi
12-19-2002, 09:45 PM
Hey xtrm....I like it....the only thing that I think stops them from working together is the amount of fingers...why go from 3 fingers and a thumb to 4 fingers and a thumb....I personally like the hands on the pilot better....keep it up...:thumbsup:

xtrm3d
12-19-2002, 10:51 PM
hi remi..
yep i think you are right about this..
the problem is that i modeld jack one year ago..
and i am no more happy with his glove..
and i seriousely think to do some change on his design.. sasquatch air/ new 4 finger gloves...
:shrug:
but first .. i have to do the war-pet for the evil scientist..
and i think about a big/dumb/angry cable remote controled retro-techno-cyber-gorilla.. with a iron helmet and lightbulb screwed in his skull...and may be a steam power unit ???:drool:

r0bal
12-19-2002, 10:59 PM
I love your style! :love:
Please don't stop creating! You're so quick with the updates :thumbsup:

SPIDER2544
12-20-2002, 12:22 AM
soo tight dude

i love the style of the little blue guys and the style of the vehicls awsome stuff i cant wait to see when everything is all finished

kurt30
12-20-2002, 01:06 PM
love te body on the Scientist. Any way of spending just a little more time on the shirt collar.

I can't wait to see the final piece. I swear, this looks like a toy collection I would want!

xtrm3d
12-20-2002, 03:11 PM
:beer:
merci kurt.. :-) .. and the other too

humm i have to say that i love the shirt collar this way.. cause he give him a army suit look.. .. without this stuff he look mor like a surgeon or worse a butcher.. :-)

ok just started to rigg..
many thing to do .. add some expression / theet and change the glove.. but could not resist to render in radiosity :-)

kurt30
12-20-2002, 03:25 PM
He looks bad-ass. Very menacing! You're right about the sirt collar. Are you going to put a little soft body dynamics in the lab coat? I've never done that to clothing before. Might look pretty cool!

cuse
12-20-2002, 03:37 PM
damn i joined this one way too late... your stuff looks awesome, is this still all done in LW???

great work, cant wait for more.



cuse

xtrm3d
12-20-2002, 09:03 PM
@cuse : yes every thing done in lw ;)
@kurt : humm i did it sometime befor for clothing..
but right now.. i dont think it´s would fit to the vinyl-toy look..
stay tuned i would update later this week-end.. expect to see his
monkey soon... :-)

kurt30
12-21-2002, 04:39 PM
monkeys...I like monkeys!

Skyraider3D
12-21-2002, 10:51 PM
Einstein needs some scary tools ;)
Great work... again! :thumbsup:

:beer: ;)

xtrm3d
12-23-2002, 01:16 PM
hi ,
i juste posted .. final version from the scientist.. 3 pics



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