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lazzhar
02-17-2006, 01:26 PM
I went script 4. I just started today and it looks like I will spend my life lightig kitchens :D
http://i1.tinypic.com/ny9ohl.jpg

lazzhar
02-17-2006, 01:29 PM
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=ny9rp1

jeremybirn
02-17-2006, 06:52 PM
That's great! Terrific work! It looks like the shadow of a character (maybe holding a telephone?) coming in from the other room.

-jeremy

elgordo
02-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Woaaaaaaa! ... Amazing!

PPGINGRAS
02-18-2006, 12:37 AM
Very good start Lazzhar...


I love your color scheme...




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Synthesizer
02-18-2006, 02:46 AM
Great work lazzhar. It's looking very scary right now. That person's ankles look pretty skinny though:p Maybe you should turn up the shadow rays on the character though, it's looking a bit grainy.

lazzhar
02-18-2006, 09:51 AM
Thanks guys.

Yes it's the shadows of a 1 polygon playing the role of a gobo next the door in the right. And I forgot to use more rays for raytraced shadows I'm using there.

I was thinking to make the shot in a day as I was guessing that it will fit better to the idea of a baby-sitter working in that house. But couldn't get something interesting until I switched to a night dark look.

Maybe I'll move to start working on another script.

jeremybirn
02-18-2006, 03:34 PM
It would be good to do a clean-up pass on the first one first, fix the grainy areas, make sure all the table legs are shadowing where they should for a solid sense of contact. It looks like there are trace depth issues with some of the shadows not getting reflected (on the counter underneath the upper cabinet, there's a reflection of the kitchen wall that looks brighter than the wall itself, usually this is because a light doesn't have enough trace depth.) Also, the sink shouldn't reflect itself, the red on the back of the sink looks good but the reflection of the red onto the bottom of the sink just looks distracting and raytrac-y. The tall cylinder on the counter was supposed to be paper towels, not something shiney.

-jeremy

lazzhar
02-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Well, it's the fate of cheating http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon10.gif. I was using some lights that don't cast shdows at all to project the patern of leaves around the room and they were behind some troubles. Switching shadows doesnt fix the proble as it makes their effect less interesting here. The I tryed to create the same look with more spot lights. I tryed to get some contact shadows from the red bouncing light for the table and chair legs as well.
http://i1.tinypic.com/o042ae.jpg

mimixtra
02-18-2006, 09:12 PM
Woooowwwwww Lazzhar, :thumbsup: you always amaze me with what you post!

Well done, I like what you've done here, AMAZING!!!

I hope you keep posting more of your work because I really enjoy them very much even if I don't post much!! :)

lazzhar
02-19-2006, 12:45 PM
Woooowwwwww Lazzhar, :thumbsup: you always amaze me with what you post!

Well done, I like what you've done here, AMAZING!!!

I hope you keep posting more of your work because I really enjoy them very much even if I don't post much!! :)

http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon10.gif Even though you don't post much thanks a lot. I'm glad you liked what I do http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon10.gif

Sphere♥
02-19-2006, 04:59 PM
Nice cretive angle. I wish I understood why it works so well? Is it the fly on the wall, or security camera effect? Or just the something's not quite right so it's creepy effect?

jeremybirn
02-19-2006, 07:14 PM
Hmmm... I think you need to split the difference a bit between the old and new versions. I like the new bottle shadow with the green in it and some of the other fixes, but there are new problems: the sink is going too dark now, some of the red on the back of the sink looked good in the old version, and a little more blue light on the fruit bowl could help.

The shadow of the babysitter is still really noisy, that still needs to be fixed, only now it gets confused with the shadow of the chair, so it almost looks like a shadow of a person cut off at the waist if you follow it wrong. Those new shadows of the table legs head away from a light source that doesn't exist on the back wall, they should either be much, much softer or head a different direction.

-jeremy

lazzhar
02-20-2006, 08:58 AM
Hmmm... I think you need to split the difference a bit between the old and new versions. I like the new bottle shadow with the green in it and some of the other fixes, but there are new problems: the sink is going too dark now, some of the red on the back of the sink looked good in the old version, and a little more blue light on the fruit bowl could help.

The shadow of the babysitter is still really noisy, that still needs to be fixed, only now it gets confused with the shadow of the chair, so it almost looks like a shadow of a person cut off at the waist if you follow it wrong. Those new shadows of the table legs head away from a light source that doesn't exist on the back wall, they should either be much, much softer or head a different direction.

-jeremy

That red spot on the sink is problematic a bit. In the 1st version it was a secondary reflection from the bottom onto faces aiming to the right of the screen. So making the sink not reflecting itself would make that red spot vanishing. As solution I thought to get it back using a reflection map (cubic one) as I'm doing in this pass.
http://i1.tinypic.com/o6l6b7.jpg

I've also soften the bouncing light creating contact shadows for the table legs.
It's is overlit just to get easy way to see the whole effect. Will fix other problems later.

lazzhar
02-21-2006, 09:26 AM
Hi, here is new update fixing some stuff here and there.
http://i1.tinypic.com/o8fdcn.jpg

Sciortino
02-21-2006, 11:52 AM
Lazhar,
It's telling a story--nice job. I also like your table top texturing.
Two questions on the light. What's going on with the light outside, because the left side of the tree is lit (the right is in deep shadow), but the light on the fruit inside looks like it's coming from the right outside? And then on the right side of your picture, the red light is coming from outside the room, even further right--should the inside side of the right wall also be lit in red?
-Paul

lazzhar
02-22-2006, 01:00 PM
Lazhar,
It's telling a story--nice job. I also like your table top texturing.
Two questions on the light. What's going on with the light outside, because the left side of the tree is lit (the right is in deep shadow), but the light on the fruit inside looks like it's coming from the right outside? And then on the right side of your picture, the red light is coming from outside the room, even further right--should the inside side of the right wall also be lit in red?
-Paul

Thanks Paul.
In the outside I put a randm spot light in the left to get the tree illuminated, that same light isnt aimed toward the room, besides, when I've seen the outside overlit and attracting eyes wich hurts the composition imo, I added a negative light to get rid of the brightness there.
Concerning the frame of the door, I gess it's shadows darkning things there.

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