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JSlotosch
02-11-2006, 10:02 AM
Hey all,
I started with someone from another forum a battle, the topic was to model a Vampire Hunter, but wie donīt use any referenz how we should model, we model freestyle!
Here is my progress, hope you like it so far!
http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Other%20Things/Sketch/Vampire%20hunter03.jpg
The wire:
http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Other%20Things/Sketch/Vampire%20hunterWire02.jpg
Greeting,
FHawk

Latest update:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//8.jpg

vfx
02-11-2006, 12:20 PM
Really good work dude! No crits really...looking forward to the textured version..

If anything - try not to make him look so stuck up - his facial pose makes him look like he smelt something bad...I thin khe needs to look more aggressive and angry.

JSlotosch
02-11-2006, 05:37 PM
Thank you for the kind words vfx,
I will look what I can do to give him a more evil look!
Greeting,
FHawk

SUS
02-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Great model!

Love the style!

Keep it up and keep the updates coming!

JSlotosch
02-18-2006, 05:50 PM
Nice that you like it SUS,

Here we go:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter04.jpg
I think I will tweak some places and than I will model him "clothes"!

Greeting,
FHawk

hoodedpython
02-18-2006, 05:57 PM
Cool modelling cant wait to see the finished model.

Engy
02-18-2006, 06:00 PM
Superb modelling!

I think the ankle area and back of the knees need a bit more work, but other than that its awesome.

JSlotosch
02-19-2006, 02:43 PM
@hoodedpython
Glad you like it! :)

@Engy
Thx for the tips, I will remodel this places!
Greeting,
FHawk

bigquix
02-19-2006, 06:17 PM
that charachter is a very very very very amazing one. you did all the muscles wow !! I love it man. that make me feel like a beginner ! ok ok, now it becomes a MUST for me to do some muscle stuff :D

waiting for the rest...

JSlotosch
02-23-2006, 11:06 AM
Thankīs bigquix, your character is great, too!
The rest coming soon!
Greeting,
FHawk

Crin
02-23-2006, 11:57 AM
I see lots of excellent muscley models like this but how do you actually go about rigging something that complicated? Or do you not?

AndrewHwang
02-23-2006, 04:41 PM
awsome modeling, really like the dynamic musculature, i agree with engy about the back of the knees, and i think the back of the calves could use some more work as well, great job man, do you plan on texturing him?

Isurus
02-23-2006, 05:14 PM
it looks fricking awesome!

valentine
02-23-2006, 06:40 PM
Nice that you like it SUS,

Here we go:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter04.jpg
I think I will tweak some places and than I will model him "clothes"!

Greeting,
FHawk

i really like the muscle-definition and fleshiness of the upper torso. the topology especially on the forearms and the chest looks like some tidy work ;)

the upper leg - especially the front side - looks way too generic. please, do yourself a favour and turn those upper legs into something more alive, more fleshy - less generic - just as you did on the upper part of your hunter!

furthermore some bigger unsmoothed wireshots of the front and the back of your char would be really appreciated!

good luck & regards
jannis

cpaulson
02-24-2006, 02:45 AM
i think this guy could benefit from some longer slightly thinner legs... I think that would help validate your uber long neck. sweet job thus far.

JSlotosch
02-26-2006, 12:06 AM
Thx all for your kind comments!

@Crin
I will rig him only for a pose, that should be to difficult! ;)

@AndrewHwang
Nice you like it, yes I will textur him!

@Isurus
;)

@valentine
Okay I worked on the leg, but I think I will do it again, because you are right!

@cpaulson
Well, I like them how they are! ;)

Here I have an update from the Char:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter07.jpg
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Sch%E4del00.jpg
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Sch%E4delwire.jpg

and here the Face:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter03.jpg

Greeting,
FHawk

Cyborgguineapig
02-26-2006, 01:54 AM
Awsome work, I don't have a crit at the moment but jsut hope to see this continue

JSlotosch
02-26-2006, 06:58 PM
Hey guy, thx for this kind words! :)

and here we go, I wanna learn ZBrush and made some trys, itīs a really great programm, love to make details with it!
I used the cool alpha maps from Antropus, thank you for this!

http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Sonstiges//Vampire01.jpg

Should be a kind of vampire!
Hope you like it!

Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
02-27-2006, 12:36 AM
Does anybody know, how I can use the alpha map, which I made in ZBrush, for an displacement in Max (with Mental Ray)!?
And another question, can I use the UVW, which ZBrush generated, in Max, or make this some problems!?

I hope to get some help from you!

Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
02-28-2006, 10:09 AM
Okay I have solved the Problem!
Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
03-03-2006, 08:39 PM
Here we go,

I made the mouth interior and a necklace!
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter09.jpg
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Kette.jpg

And I made some rig tests:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter08.jpg
Hope you like it! ;)
Now I will model him teeth!

Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
03-10-2006, 10:19 PM
Hi all,
I consider what he can wear for weapons and how his equipment finally should look!
http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Vampire_Hunter/Vampire%20hunter10.jpg
He should wear a bow and a quiver for arrows on his back
But Iīm not sure whether this equipment fit to him!
If you donīt like it let me know it! :)

-FHawk

JSlotosch
03-11-2006, 06:56 PM
A little update!
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Vampire%20hunter11.jpg
-FHawk

Giangmatric
03-11-2006, 09:20 PM
Great model. I love it.
I think his neck is kinda strange other than that great. Are you going to animate him?
Giangmatric

JSlotosch
03-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Thank you for your comment Giangmatric, no I donīt will animate him, I only wanna set him in a pose!
-FHawk

julnyapp
03-14-2006, 10:54 AM
That's dynamite!! Great modeling. Nothing to nitpick.
Looking forward to see more of your stuff.

damoke
03-15-2006, 02:16 AM
Great modeling! im not keen on the helmet , the body and hands are really good keep it up

yonathangz
03-15-2006, 01:56 PM
hi, very cool model, I really like it!

Can you elaborate a little about how you did the cloth (the wrinkles and creases)?

Keep it up!!!

yoni

JSlotosch
03-25-2006, 04:05 PM
Thanks all for the comments and sorry for my late answer!
@juln
Thankīs! ;)

@damoke
I will remove all the skirt!

@yonathangz
The cloth is nothing especial, I modeled it with a plane which I extruded arround his hip and than I extruded it down and made the wrinkles !

Now, I started with the texture, but I have a problem!
Ever I use SSS from mental ray in max the result looks a little bit to soft, I can do what I want!
Now the question, how can I give the shader more contrast!?
For example, this is the original picture: http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Vampire_Hunter/Textur01.jpg
and this is the picture after I scaled the contrast higher in Photoshop:
http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Vampire_Hunter/Textur02.jpg
would be nice if you can help me!
I donīt know where I can do that!
Greeting,
FHawk

frameless
03-25-2006, 05:31 PM
Great work so far, on the model as well as on texture :thumbsup:
Concerning the "contrast", you can try to increase the "scale conversion factor"
This will cause, that your model get lets translucent and the shadows will be darker.

JSlotosch
03-25-2006, 07:13 PM
Thx for the tip frameless nice that you like it! ;)
Here an little update:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur09.jpg
and
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur10.jpg
Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
03-26-2006, 02:00 PM
okay no crits?

I have an update, hope it looks better than the last one!

http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur13.jpg
and
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur14.jpg
....
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur15.jpg
-FHawk

JSlotosch
03-26-2006, 04:26 PM
I was asked to post the material settings, here they are!
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//VampireHunterSSS.jpg

-Fhawk

JSlotosch
03-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Okay, here are some variations!
I think that I will use the one in the center!
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Textur16.jpg
Which variation do you like most!?
Greeting,
FHawk

Kralle
03-26-2006, 08:17 PM
That looks very cool and very intense. :D

Thyriax
03-26-2006, 08:43 PM
Impressive work! And very good texturing too..( For me, the left one is better.)

leif3d
03-26-2006, 09:10 PM
That's a very impressive model and texture you got there. I did feel a little strange when I saw the cuts on his body - because vampires heal very rapidly- , the "bruce lee" chest - very small and tight - which contradicts the rest of his body....but other than that It look amazing! keep it up! :D

Michael Walker
03-26-2006, 09:13 PM
the left one is the best, i really like this rotten flesh, looks really old and cold at the same time. great job!

Tıax
03-26-2006, 09:16 PM
WoW , looks great! excellent texturing , keep up the good work man :)

ah btw , left one is better i think . Pale skin would look better i think ;)

JSlotosch
03-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Yeah thx all for this friendly comments!
@Kralle,Thyriax
Nice you like it! :)

@leif3d
hi isnīt a vampire, he is an vampire hunter! ;)

@Michael Walker,Tıax
I`m glad you like it, too!

-FHawk

younglion
03-27-2006, 06:39 PM
you are ridiculous man that model is amazing and the textures just make it that much better. looking to seeing more updates

JSlotosch
03-28-2006, 03:14 PM
ThX for your comment, Iīm working on the the update! ;)
-FHawk

JSlotosch
03-31-2006, 11:53 AM
I have a question, how can I hide, in the best way, the seams from the parts of the unwrap?

Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
04-02-2006, 12:58 PM
A little update:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//kopf01.jpg
and
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//face2.jpg

I hope it looks better!
-FHawk

JSlotosch
04-02-2006, 10:00 PM
So here we go, I played a bit around...
http://quadgen.de/Sachen/kopf03.jpg
I think he looks better now!
-FHawk

JSlotosch
04-03-2006, 03:23 PM
okay an new update, hope you like it...
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//kopf05.jpg
Greeting,
FHawk

JSlotosch
04-06-2006, 01:59 PM
Someone asked me for the light setup which I use!
Here is it:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//light_setup.jpg
Is there nobody who kann say something, for example to my skinshader, I use mental ray for the rendering and the skinshader!

Greeting,
FHawk

gjpetch
04-09-2006, 03:21 AM
Nice anatomy!
The main thing that stands out to me is that it looks like you are using lights that aren't casting shadows. I can see bright illumination inside the mouth, and the head isn't casting any shadow onto the shoulder. All lights should cast shadows. The skin looks a bit grey/brown, and a bit flat. One thing that can help is if you incorporate a bit of a coloured gradient into the shading, so the highlights might be slightly blue, the illuminated parts slightly yellow, mid parts slightly orange, shadows slightly purple... this gives it a sort-of translucent look. Just more variation in the colour, like the cheeks, nose, chin might be more red than the rest, more exposed parts like his shoulders might be more tanned relative to less exposed parts like his armpits and under his chin. He could do with some variation is specular, perhaps shiny around the eyes and scalp, and so on.

Hope thats some help!

JSlotosch
04-09-2006, 01:56 PM
Thank you very much for your comment gjpetch, I love your work very much!
Thatīs cool to get some help from, you, I will look what I can do!
But first I have un little update, I hope you all like it:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//VHunter00.jpg

c&c are welcome!
Greeting,
FHawk

su
04-09-2006, 02:53 PM
can you make his skin look more dead? a little purple tinting might go well over the yellow skin.

Good modeling, good texturing, good lighting, great job :)

JSlotosch
04-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Okay I will try to gave him a more deadly look! ;)
Here a render without textur, (lightning test)
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//VHuntershade.jpg

Cheers,
Josef

fallofmart
04-10-2006, 12:20 AM
It seems like his neck is too long or his legs or too short?

The model is awesome, it's just those things that look a little strange to me.

JSlotosch
04-12-2006, 10:49 PM
fallofmart, thanks for this comment, but I love the long neck. ;)

Iīm currently working on the rig, but I donīt have so much experience in rigging.
I use max and my question is, should I work with weight all vertices or should I work without weight all vertices?
What maks more sense?
I have this question, because I have a little problem. The bone weights of the right foot influence the left foot, I think this comes from weighting all vertices.
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//question.jpg

Would be nice if you can help me!
-Cheers,
Josef

JSlotosch
04-13-2006, 09:18 AM
No one who can help?

JSlotosch
04-13-2006, 10:01 AM
Well, I found the problem.

BrettHolton
04-13-2006, 10:40 AM
First of all sick modelling man, really love it.

Second, is he able to go outside during the day like a normal human or is he restricted to night movement? if the later, you should probably keep his skin pale and a slightly purple to give the faint skin that most vamps / albino's have

markovicd
04-13-2006, 10:51 AM
very nice work here mate... modeling is really insane! u really know the anatomy! :)

and about your problem... u have to paint weight... by default settings it caught second leg... so u need to do it on your own ...

JSlotosch
04-13-2006, 02:21 PM
@Mathiu
Hello, yes I will give him a more pale and purple skin!

@markovicd
thx for your help!

Lordrych
04-13-2006, 02:25 PM
Hello, Flying-Hawk, very awesome modeling, but I am actually intereseted in how you solved the problem I am also a newbie at rigging.

Baron

JSlotosch
04-13-2006, 06:37 PM
Nice you like my work. :)
Well, I painted the weights with the painttool in max and than I mirrored the changes to the other foot, that was the problem. The weights from the one foot were really mirrored, (donīt no why) and not only the values!
I solved it, skinning every foot individually.

JSlotosch
04-14-2006, 12:03 AM
Well, I thought that he looks a bit lonely, so I modeled a catana for him.
Hope you like it!
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Katana00.jpg
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Katana01.jpg
and in pose...
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//VHuntershade00.jpg

Cheers,
JOsef

Armanguy
04-14-2006, 08:51 AM
awesome work keep it up!

pap87
04-14-2006, 09:53 AM
If he hunts vampires, where's the stake?
Excellent job so far mate. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

almaghool
04-14-2006, 12:12 PM
good :thumbsup:
awesome work

JSlotosch
04-14-2006, 09:29 PM
Thanks for your opinions! :)
@pap87, the stakes, well he has a sword ;)

Here I have an update with color:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Color00.jpg

Cheers,
Josef

thondal
04-14-2006, 10:37 PM
a little crit ;) since this is so amazingly good, i was trying to find something to crit on.. the katana... if it is a dai katana (normal large katana, the kinda you see in movies and stuff) you gave him then you should make it a bit bigger;) if it is a katana then you have to make it smaller ;) just had to say that :P anywais, really nice ;)

-thondal-

pap87
04-15-2006, 03:17 AM
Wow, excellent! The skin looks awesome, just not too fond of the bump on the forearms. Overall, amazing model.

Kurosaki Ichigo
04-15-2006, 05:35 AM
MOdel looks great, though I'm worried about the katanas sheath. It looks western, yet katanas are eastern. Maybe remodelling so the sheath woul be more accurate?

Otherwis great work.

JSlotosch
04-15-2006, 10:45 AM
Hey Iīm glad you still like it!
thondal, well I gave him this katana because a smaller one looks to small and a bigger one looks to big, my opinion. ;)

As you said, pap87, the bump on the forearms looks a bit strange, I will work on it.

Kurosaki Ichigo, I would change the sheat but I modeled it after a reference picture, so I not really know what I should change that it looks more than an eastern katana.

Cheers,
FHawk

Nathellion
04-15-2006, 11:56 AM
Just wanted to chime in and say great job; I've been watching this wip for awhile and it's nice to see how well it's coming together, especially in recent updates.

em3
04-15-2006, 12:49 PM
Your model is looking great, love the scar across his belly.. I saw this one and had to comment, great job!!

Kurosaki Ichigo
04-15-2006, 03:48 PM
That's cool it still looks good. Here is a eastern katana

http://www.rjcutlery.com/catalog/images/katana-blowup.jpg

JSlotosch
04-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Glad you like it Nathellion! :)

em3, yeah :)

Kurosaki Ichigo, thank you for this nice reference picture, I will look what I can do!

Well, started with the final rendering, but I will work a bit on the texture and, the catana.
Here hope you like it, thatīs the way I wanna go with it:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//fin01min.jpg
and here a highres (http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Vampire_Hunter/fin01.jpg) version:

Cheers,
FHawk

Kurosaki Ichigo
04-16-2006, 11:57 PM
@ Flying-Hawk : No problem dude :-)

neonneo
04-17-2006, 10:10 AM
respecT :D

JSlotosch
04-17-2006, 11:26 AM
Well, here I have an update, hope you like it:
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//8.jpg

Regards,
Josef

X-Ice
04-17-2006, 11:38 AM
WOW!!! So i'm not a character modeler but for me it looks just great! I think you the next choice award is for you ;-)

fabianloing
04-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Absolutely top notch!!
amazing characteristic!


-Fabian

JSlotosch
04-18-2006, 11:10 AM
Hey glad you two like it!
@fabianloing
like your work too! :)

Here another version:
http://flyinghawk.fl.funpic.de/3D/Vampire_Hunter/Mini.jpg
Cheers,
Josef

JSlotosch
04-19-2006, 02:04 PM
Here, I have an update, I changed the eyes and some other little things.
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Mini00.jpg

Greeting,
Josef

JSlotosch
04-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Lol I canīt decide me!
Which version is better, the one with the eyes up or the one with the eyes down!?

eyes up...
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Mini00.jpg
eyes down...
http://home.pages.at/flying-hawk//Vampire_Hunter//Mini000.jpg

Cheers,
Josef

Kurosaki Ichigo
04-19-2006, 05:26 PM
Eyes down hands down :P It makes the audience feel uncomrotable, and that's what you want.

JSlotosch
04-20-2006, 11:39 PM
Thx for your advice! :)
I declared the Version to the final version!

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