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01-31-2006, 05:34 PM
DAAAAAMMMMNNNNNN its been sometime since I have posted a WIP here, well I hope ya guys can help me out on everythiing ya think ya can help out on :P
well basicly my idea is I wanted to paint something that looked painful but calm,
kinda like when you were a kid and ya saw the doctor getting ready to take out blood, and ya started to freak out but then when the needle was already in ya realized that it didnt hurt, kinda the same idea except it does hurt but he doesnt show it.... sooooooooooo I call the drawing "Sleeper" heres the sketch and ill post up the color sketch too right now :D
This is soooo promising :)
01-31-2006, 05:46 PM
heres a quick lay down of color
more shots please :)
01-31-2006, 06:01 PM
here we go,
and this is the one that I did last night :D
01-31-2006, 06:23 PM
Oooooooh very nice veins there. Love the colors you're using! It's looking very pro. I must say though that when I received shots as a kid, I remember it DID hurt. It's why to this day the smell of rubbing alcohol makes me nervous.
Are you sure you don't want to even hint at the fact that it hurts? I mean to show he's human? Like a very faint trace of a crease between his brows? In looking at his expression and all those tubes I'm more apt to think he's an android than a very self-controlled human. Maybe even just some sweat will help. Another of those lovely veins popping at his temple? I'm talking about the involuntary reactions to the pain...like when you start to tremble when you're trying to hold something too long.
01-31-2006, 08:20 PM
ill make him look human, maybe a lil twinch but nothing too abviouse, and to point out that he is human im gonna open his eyes and give him those red eyes like he justy woke up
maybe that will help some
He just woke up or he just stopped crying because that didn't help the pain at all. :)
01-31-2006, 09:54 PM
added some details on the vains, made the cables "feelable" and added some hair, oh yea and opened the eyes tell me what ya think :D
01-31-2006, 10:13 PM
I really like the coloring and the shading, nice concept too.
However, there are several things that sort of throw me off, and i dont' really know much about anatomy, however:
The base of the neck seems sort of too straight, as if the skull was flat at the back. His right shoulder also seems sort of small, or misplaced - from looking at the overall direction of his collar bone.
I really don't know about human anatomy...
Anyway, keep it up! ^__^
The veins on his left arm (the one closer to us) are too thick, other than that it seems really nice.
Having those plugs on the nipples are pretty disturbing, nice work!
02-01-2006, 12:46 AM
Love it! but I think he looked a lot better with the eyes closed, now it seems more like HE is in control of wverything, whilst before (eyes closed) he looked like a prisoner. Maybe if you could give him a scared look instead of the sure look he has now.
And yeah, I agree on about the veins on the left arm, too big, even if it is supposed to look as if he is being unnaturally pumped/sucked bu those things I think you should try and tone down the size a bit.
Keep it up, gonna subscribe to this one. :)
02-01-2006, 03:00 AM
thanks guys for the crits :D
about the vein thingy - when I first drew them I wasnt really trying to show that they were "veins" per say, I drew them thinking them to be smaller cables running inside of him, maybe i'll draw some of the cables coming out to show that they are cables instead of veins.
Thanks for the comments guys, oh btw any tips on what I should do on the background would REALLY help since I am UBBER blank on that section :P
02-01-2006, 03:02 AM
oh btw, about the eye being open, ill keep it open until im done alltogether, then I will save a diffrent version him with eyes closed, and then as a group we will all vote see whitch looks better :D
02-01-2006, 03:07 AM
wait a ticker, ya know what would loooooookk soooo awsomely disturbing if I were to draw his head tilted back without the "mozzle" and have cable coming out of his eyes and ears,
if anyone would be kind enough to take a picture of themself or someone the know with there head tilted almost all the way back, I would be MORE that happy to actually add the facial features into the pic, kinda sorta like a free portrait :D :deal:
02-01-2006, 04:27 AM
i think it looked better when his eyes were closed
02-01-2006, 07:47 AM
Yeah, eyes closed seemed more like he was focusing on maintaining his composure...like meditating. Which matched the description of "sleeper" too. But head back and hoses coming out of his eyes would be super creepy too! Too bad I'm a girl or I'd submit my picture for reference. Maybe I can find a volunteer later if no one's posted one for you by then.
02-01-2006, 03:17 PM
oh that would be more than awsome, you can submit your pic, he'd just be an unnaturally pretty lookin guy :P
02-01-2006, 04:14 PM
hi guys, another lil update,
I worked on the icky part of the dudes body, added some blood here and there :D
ok tell me whitch one is better with the blood added, the one with eyes closed or the one with eyes open?
02-01-2006, 08:06 PM
Okay well looks like no one else has come up with a ref for you so I went and asked my coworker, Kai if he would kindly pose for my camera.
Don't know if this is what you had in mind, but hey it's something. By the way - I still think the eyes closed version is better than the eyes open one there in that last update. And I think the lesions on that arm on the right look too much like a big scratch from a fight with a clawed animal/creature...more like battle wounds than lesions where cables are coming through. Truthfully I thought it all looked better without blood - like a self-contained, regulated and unnatural system he's plugged into. I guess some lesions are good though - like the others said - to show that those veiny bulges are in fact cables running through him...but not so many on that right arm. And maybe a better way altogether to show that they are cables is to show the smaller ones arching up and into his skin at the base. Does that make sense? If not I can do a little scribbly redline of what I mean.
02-02-2006, 03:33 AM
that pic is percect, if you can, just for vareity see if ya can get a black dude and a white guy to pose just to see what would look cooler. not to be picky, mostly out of curiousity can ya retake his pic, and tell him to pretend he had those cables logged into his eyes and him screaming as if it was the greatest pain he has ever felt, and it would be super swet if you can take one at the pose hes at and also one where he has his head about bent a lil more towards the original... kinda like you see how he is looking straight above himself, it would be cool if he could point his head as if he is looking at the "intercection" of the wall and the ceiling :D
I INCREDIBLY appreciate the reffrence help your giving me, its incredibly sweet :D
02-02-2006, 04:39 AM
This would be much easier if I were still in school. Lots of guys there and all willing to help out with such things. I could ask Kai, but I don't know if he'll do it. Maybe I can stop by school one of these nights when I'm not so busy and get you some good stuff. You'll have to wait though because I've got every night booked til next Monday. :\
Maybe I can at least get you some - maybe Friday night at the art walk. I might be able to find a fellow artist who understands the value of reference pics. If you're willing to wait until Friday, I think I can oblige you.
btw - this guy reminds me of this little 3 page short story I wrote. It's about a guy who is plugged into a machine who programs (nervous impulses are connected directly to the computer). He programs prosthetic limbs to interpret nerve impulses (the very technology which saved his life, but his body was so mangled there was little left of him to salvage). So he's basically just a talking head with heart and lungs. The story is about how he falls in love with his new nurse, and how it is such a torture to him that now that he's found love he's unable to show much affection, and he is miserable that he wasted most of his life before the accident working, watching TV, and generally doing very little living. He is most distraught though by the thought that she could never return his love because he is a freak. But she treats him like a normal human being and seems to genuinely like him, so it gives him hope. Kind of an ending of potential happiness. It was meant to be a comic, but I am not very good at drawing machines.
02-02-2006, 05:02 AM
pretty cool story, im not one to normally read or whatch a sad story 'cause I tend to cry at somethings like that, and I hate crying :P sooooo, but I wouldnt mind whatching or reading something that makes ya cry, kinda sortta like the saying, what doesnts kill you makes you stronger, only not so much of the dieing will be going on ya know :P
I can wait as long as it takes, I have learned that the worst thing to do in art is to rush things so take all the time you need, and again THANK YOUUUUU soooooooo much for the help :D
02-02-2006, 05:02 AM
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