CGTalk - PA Challane - Character

Carny

03-01-2002, 05:34 PM

To-do-List:
-add hands and finish arms
-add Kilt (scottish male skirt)
-finish the boots
-add the mask-belts
-do all the hoses and the gas tanks on his back
-make a huuuuge gun! :)
-and when theres some time left add some textures

PS: heew! Excuse me for my rusty english :rolleyes:

Neox

03-01-2002, 05:42 PM

OMG! Look at these muscles!! WOOOOW! You know that i like it!

nob

03-01-2002, 07:38 PM

oh yeah, very nice :D

but... a kilt? O_o

PROtecta

03-01-2002, 07:44 PM

Very nice! Yes man, I like it ;)

btw: Sag mal, is beim SEK grade "Muskelnmachen" angesagt? ;)

Greetz PRO

FURI-KURI

03-01-2002, 08:01 PM

dazu nur eins .. Hammer geil!
mit Max/FR oder MR?

Will see more of this!

Neox

03-01-2002, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by PROtecta
Very nice! Yes man, I like it ;)

btw: Sag mal, is beim SEK grade "Muskelnmachen" angesagt? ;)

Greetz PRO

Das sagt gerade der dessen Oberarme breiter sind als meine Oberschenkel *g*

come on guys speak english, the others can't understand us *g*

Carny

03-01-2002, 08:18 PM

He's a scotch! Of cours he wears a kilt! :D

@Protocta: Wers nich hat musses alt model! ;P

Byron

03-01-2002, 09:17 PM

Carny, you are great !!!

You 're not only able to create clean models, no ...
you can also create awsome creatures - two abilities needed to be a great Artist !!!

If i would'nt know you, i would call you "God of Modellers" (at least one of them ;) ). But you're only a normal guy :D .

See ya.

Best Regards
Byron

Neox

03-01-2002, 09:31 PM

we, normal? We're modelling 24/7, we are not normal! ;)

Carny

03-01-2002, 09:38 PM

DEFFINETLY! :D

YemYam

03-01-2002, 10:52 PM

Mesh shots paaaleeeese!

alben

03-02-2002, 12:08 AM

damn he is muscular!!! awesome detail on the muscles. U must have spent a lot of time on anatomy books.

Tub

03-02-2002, 12:11 AM

Speechless... :)

Danko

03-02-2002, 12:25 AM

Really impressive!!
Very clean mesh and muscles. I personally like his oversize a lot :). Great job on anatomy. Btw, maybe it's just me but it seems on his side view that chest is a bit low, closer to hips than to the chin. Legs look very nice from behind! not too sure about knees and upper cuadriceps but minor issues!. I find it AWESOME at overall. Congratulations for the great job! ;)

Carny

03-02-2002, 12:56 AM

Here we go!

The Mesh-Shot:

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wastman_block_Wireshot_01.jpg

The Model could be cleaner and with less trianlges. But i dont like to handle to much lines, cause you easily loose track of the lines. And it gets hard to do digegr changes. But when the resulst looks smoothe and without failurs its pretty okay :p

@Danke: THX! I thought you would like it. I always kept an eye on youre model and i like your armor very well! :D Its not easy to combine real anatomy with an overdrwan character. Some fotos show things like this and otehr liek that and in the book it sometimes look complety different.

@alben: Actually the book is spending time around me... All the pages are flying around me and only the half of them are still in the book! :D I damn cheap books! :D

DimitrisLiatsos

03-02-2002, 01:15 AM

Feck !!! And i thought that the guy i made had too much muscles on him!

It's great ...i wish i could watch you model the guy ( Jaw drops to the floor...) ok now i lost my sleep again ..and i don't have the time to finish my guy to show him to you...feck!!! again ...very clean modeling.
Go man ! Go!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Eugeny

03-02-2002, 01:24 AM

Nice, keep it up :)

Neox

03-02-2002, 01:26 AM

I can see him model the whole day!
And believe me i learned more about anatomy in the last half year i'm working with him than the 2 years before!
Carny you don't have to be shy your work is GREAT!
and your anatomical skills are impressive! He#s the best modeller i personally know!

DimitrisLiatsos

03-02-2002, 01:32 AM

Yes i am sure that someone can many things about anatomy working with this guy.....he is great !!!

Carny

03-02-2002, 02:41 PM

Hey, calm down guys! You make me embarassed! :D (heew! I hope i didn't mess up the words! :p )

BASSit

03-03-2002, 02:13 AM

Wow, that guy is amazing ! Great work ! It looks like you´ve mastered the edge-loop - that´s something i still have to learn ;) Why not making a tutorial ?

Watt für´n Muskelpaket... standest Du selbst dafür Model ? Hihi, nee mal ganz ehrlich: saubere Arbeit ! Mir scheint Du hast den Dreh mit den Edge-Loops schon raus... das ist etwas was ich noch lernen muss ;) Warum machste nich ma ´n Tutorial oder sowas ? Aber kümmer Dich erstmal um diese Challenge *g* - ich glaube Dein ... (Wie heisst der Kerl überhaupt ?) ... Projekt hat grosses Potential. Zwar fehlt noch ´ne Menge Ausrüstung, aber datt schaffste schon !

Ich sage immer: Kritisiere nichts, was Du nicht besser machen kannst ! In diesem Sinne - Viel Spass !!

Matthias

03-03-2002, 02:43 AM

wooooow! It looks so fantastic! Very cool character.

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Kann hier eigentlich jeder deutsch ;)

Carny

03-03-2002, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by BASSit
Wow, that guy is amazing ! Great work ! It looks like you´ve mastered the edge-loop - that´s something i still have to learn ;) Why not making a tutorial ?

Watt für´n Muskelpaket... standest Du selbst dafür Model ? Hihi, nee mal ganz ehrlich: saubere Arbeit ! Mir scheint Du hast den Dreh mit den Edge-Loops schon raus... das ist etwas was ich noch lernen muss ;) Warum machste nich ma ´n Tutorial oder sowas ? Aber kümmer Dich erstmal um diese Challenge *g* - ich glaube Dein ... (Wie heisst der Kerl überhaupt ?) ... Projekt hat grosses Potential. Zwar fehlt noch ´ne Menge Ausrüstung, aber datt schaffste schon !

Ich sage immer: Kritisiere nichts, was Du nicht besser machen kannst ! In diesem Sinne - Viel Spass !!

THX! :D
Well i did'nt paid so much attention to the edge loops. Actually i'm not a must-have-edge-loops fan, but they make the surface more clear and thats what I want :D
Tutorials... well... i'm not so that tutorial guy *g* Mostly i don't find time for that. But i can say that watching Irfan's Timelapse Modeling video ist one of the best Tutorials! :D The rest is pure practice...

hmmm.. 'n Namen hatter eigentlich nich.. nicht wirklich... die dateinamen heissen alle Wasteman und Tub kam mal auf den namen "Fuu" :p Und ausrüstung kommt noch... hoff ich zumidnest, denn viel zeit ist ja nichtmehr! :(

pabbloz

03-03-2002, 03:38 AM

Excelent.

I prefer not see threads like this. It's a desesperation see so cool models!

BASSit

03-03-2002, 05:42 AM

Where can i find that "Irfan's timelapse video" you´ve spoken of ?!
And i demand an update in the next 60 minutes !!!!

EDIT: If you meant Irfan Celik i´ve found one timelapse video... it´s downloading right now... if someone is interested here is the direct link ! (http://www.3dluvr.com/7WcG1015120656o/ic-art/html/images/sds_modelling.avi)

Matthias

03-03-2002, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by BASSit
Where can i find that "Irfan's timelapse video" you´ve spoken of ?!
And i demand an update in the next 60 minutes !!!!

EDIT: If you meant Irfan Celik i´ve found one timelapse video... it´s downloading right now... if someone is interested here is the direct link ! (http://www.3dluvr.com/7WcG1015120656o/ic-art/html/images/sds_modelling.avi)

Yes. I think it is the one. (I don´t know another timelapse of Irfan ;))

LichiMan

03-03-2002, 03:54 PM

WOW!!!!! GREAT BASEMESH!!
Hard work.
The muscles are perfect. COOL!
5 stars for you :D

Carny

03-04-2002, 02:05 AM

Okay! Time for a small Update! :D

Her are the Hands. I'll merge them with the rest of the body sonn. My system ist just to slow to model it in a single mesh! :(
Well, no displacement used, everything is modeled! :D
Actually i could work some more on it. There are several things i dont like, but poorly the challange will and at Friday, so i have to go and finish it.

Some C&C? Pleeeeeaaaase!:P

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Hand_block_adern_01.jpg

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Hand_block_adern_02.jpg

PROtecta

03-04-2002, 02:27 AM

As I told u already...u should use professional help...COZ U R CRAZY!!! ;) Awesome work!

Greetz
PRO

Neox

03-04-2002, 02:39 AM

lol @pro!

PROtecta

03-04-2002, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Neox
lol @pro!

I think u get discount, if both of u use the help ;)
U crazy SEK skiller :D

Nipper

03-04-2002, 08:27 AM

Carny,

your work is magnificent! I can't believe that more of the heavy weights on this forum haven't commented on this model. They must be jealous ;)

Anyway, fantastic work, I really, really like the style of the model. I hope that you add more of a uniform, and gear to this fella, but as it stands right now, he's fantastic.

I haven't seen hands that detailed and beautiful in 3d for a long time, maybe ever. They remind me of the hands of Michelangelo's David.

Superb work. :)

muckywetnoodle

03-04-2002, 08:39 AM

cool model. I dig those knobby hands. I'd say he could use some garb (at least some socks :)) as he's quite on the nekkid side. Keep it up!

Carny

03-04-2002, 12:18 PM

This evening i will work some more on the head and hopefully finish it. After That i'm going to rig him (omg! the beasmesh got 16k polys in the moment that wont be much fun!) and then I#m going to suit him! :D

@Nipper: Many THX for the compliments, thats very encouraging! :D

Danko

03-04-2002, 02:46 PM

Simply awesome!
You said that you hate modeling hands? unbeliveable! =)

vertex

03-04-2002, 09:36 PM

Fantastic, I love the muscles, I to hate doing hands I just wish that my attempts resembled yours.

Excellent modelling.

Where can I see more, I notice that your web link goes to a holding page :-(

Vertex

SEL

03-04-2002, 10:57 PM

Hey Carny,

first off I would just like to say great start even though its so late in the challenge, I would like to see you in the next one early if you have the time to see what you can do with more time. My first impression on your character was a overmuscled bodybuilder with big feet, muscles good, proportions a little off, but maybe that was the approach you were going with, it seems we are the only ones in the challenge who actually took the approach of modeling the veins, just be careful about placement and having too many for you can run into problems with the riggin part of things. Also I dont know, but did you use reference from this guys book, "DYNAMIC ANATOMY" by BURNE HOGARTH, it seems your style is very like his, especially with the hands, for they are extremes of the body. The hands and arm are marvelous by the way. One big critique though as to go about, as far as modelling, texturing, animation, etc. the ones that get noticed and recognized as the best are the ones with that certain idea no one has thought of or even came close to thinking of. Originality is a must in the Industry. I would love to see your sketching skills of a preliminary character, and then develope it from there. I think you have talent in the modelling aspect, just give more thought on approach and idea......

I hope you can get done by this Friday, im curious as to the appoach you are going at to finish ;) , hope anything I said helps, nothing I said here is to hurt..... Keep up the good work!

shaun

lildragon

03-04-2002, 11:08 PM

very very, impressive arms, I especially like the fact you took the time to model the viens, the model is overly muscular for my taste but it's still cool to look at, animation would be hell :) but other than that, keep going, you've really peeked my curiousity :)

cheers

pabbloz

03-04-2002, 11:17 PM

I can't believe it... I can't believe it....
These hands are incredibles!! and without displacement!
I can't believe it... I can't believe it....

I understand why you computer is not enought powerfull :D

PedramK

03-04-2002, 11:25 PM

lol..i tried and tried to refrain from just dropping a simple comment, but sorry..i just had to say this

amazing work!:eek:

puh..had to get that out of my system, and now back to work.

Carny

03-04-2002, 11:38 PM

@Lildragon: I know that it will be hell! Only teh basemesh is hard for my mashine and riggen gonna kill it! *g* I realy would like to do more then posing and animate him a bit! :D

2the rest: THX! Guys! :D :D

Carny

03-05-2002, 03:45 AM

I worked a bit on the Head. Not final yet, but i'm too tired to be productive and I'm looking like my Avatar right now
I would be thankful about some c&c! (Maybe i kick the technical part of the goggles)

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Kopf_01.jpg

Good Night!

BASSit

03-05-2002, 04:01 AM

Ey Carny, the head looks very smooth ! And i like the googles the way they are... only the straps look too symmetrical (genauer gesagt meine ick, dass die Enden von den Gummibändern, die die Gasmaske halten unterschiedlich verdreht sein könnten (o.müssten) - nur so´n Gedanke ;)
But that´s just a little detail - looks absolutly amazing ! Hope too see him textured soon :D

Keep it up and don´t forget to sleep sometimes ;)

Batmanuel

03-05-2002, 04:03 AM

I like the approach of making the goggles different, but maybe take just a little bit of the cylinders out of the right one. Make a few of the big ones just a bit bigger to cover the space. Just my thoughts....

Great job so far. I really dig the overmuscular approach...too bad there's just so little tme left.

Batmanuel

PROtecta

03-05-2002, 04:19 AM

I'll seize the opportunity to say it again...awesome work!
I think you should definitely leave out the technical parts. He's not some sort of Cyborg, is he? So if you add something, do it as an addition and not as a implanted part of his body.

5 Stars r granted :D

Greetz
PRO

Adam

03-05-2002, 05:17 AM

My god that is crazy detail with the hand. Those are by far the most marvelous hands/arms that I have ever seem. I hope you texture him. He is amazing and a buetiful model. Very clean mesh.
That is a perfect charcter and great style I love the proportions.

Deen

03-05-2002, 12:53 PM

greets carny

that´s realy good! by the way, thus modelin´has an abbyssal style... and keep on mind, let us see more of thus characters:)

Neox

03-05-2002, 07:58 PM

LOL! Carny they really believe that this mesh is clean ;)
ok if that is what you guys see as a clean model... i'll give a f*** on quadmeshes :D

Carny

03-05-2002, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by Neox
LOL! Carny they really believe that this mesh is clean ;)
ok if that is what you guys see as a clean model... i'll give a f*** on quadmeshes :D

eh, du hast probleme... erst das model für deine Handschuhe haben wollen und dann noch meckern... tztztz! *slap*

Totitch

03-05-2002, 09:10 PM

Very great work Carny!!!

What a clean stuff!
Arms and hands are just wonderfull! :eek: :D :D :D
Body and head are great too!
Just a critic: the pectoral part of the body is a bit strange on the side view...But maybe you want it!
It's a pity you didn't make a design first and found a concept!

You are a Master!
Send us more mesh screenshots(Hands)...I need to learn! :)

PS:I'm very proud a great artist like you find my job good! Thanks!

Neox

03-05-2002, 09:29 PM

hey this was a joke! you know that i love your stuff, and learned a lot from you! and you should know that your Basemesh is really cool, the only thing i wanted to say is that there are a lot of trinanglines and n-gons in it, but this really doesn't matter! look at this endresult!

BASSit

03-06-2002, 05:08 PM

Hey Carny...

i miss an update ;) What takes you so long ? Don´t think you are able to finish that guy, do you ? Be sure to post the finished one in the 3d-Artwork forum ! I really want to see some more !!!

Keep it up !

Carny

03-06-2002, 05:44 PM

I'm riggin! :(
There isnt so much to show in the moment, but the next update ill be a bit bigger i thnk. I do everything to finish him!

Carny

03-06-2002, 05:57 PM

okay, okay.. i get weak ;] Its a testshot from last evening, meanwhile I tweaked it alot. http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wastman_block_08.jpg
(i know that the weight of the pose isnt right :p but its just a test)

lildragon

03-06-2002, 06:03 PM

My gawd man, I can't believe you rigged this beast :eek: what app are you using?

cheers

Carny

03-06-2002, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by lildragon
My gawd man, I can't believe you rigged this beast :eek: what app are you using?

cheers

Cheers! *gulk*

Actually the hands were realy easy to rig :D But the real oversized muscles (Breast, Schulder and the backmuscles) are real hard to handle! :(
I used Max with Character Studio.

YemYam

03-06-2002, 06:11 PM

I think our avatars have a similar eye condition carny ... although your's looks like it's past the festering stage and into the rotting stage.

Oh yea ... why I'm here ... good lord that's tight. Since you went through all the trouble of rigging him you need to at least have a little animation ... even if it's from pose to pose. I know you don't sleep so I'm sure you can pull it off. ;)

BASSit

03-06-2002, 06:18 PM

Amazing ! Awesome ! Absolutely incredible that you´ve finally rigged that guy !!! I am not very good at anatomy, but i think the muscle-deformations are correct.
I love that model ! And you have to animated him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

Carny

03-07-2002, 10:42 PM

You guys are realy trying to kill me, right? :D

From yesterday evening...
http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wastman_block_09.jpg
http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wastman_block_10.jpg
http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wastman_block_13.jpg

nob

03-07-2002, 10:51 PM

oh my god i love it :)

BASSit

03-07-2002, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Carny
You guys are realy trying to kill me, right? :D...

Maybe then we have a chance in the next challenge ;) Aber Spass beiseite: Really great work - what´s with the textures ?!?!?!? When´s the deadline exactly ?

You´ve my vote !

cerreto

03-08-2002, 01:34 PM

man thats some steroid fed beef there nice work !

03-08-2002, 11:42 PM

Wow, great work Carny

I love the veins, and the fact that you modeled them, you da man :)

Carny

03-09-2002, 02:37 AM

Final Pics:

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_01.jpg

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_02.jpg

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_03.jpg

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_04.jpg

http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_05.jpg

PS: Many thanx are going to Tub! He was a big helping at the renderings! :D

liquid_tension

03-09-2002, 01:19 PM

definitly awesome!!! im shocked by your modelling skills!!!

Adam Klein

03-09-2002, 01:59 PM

weeell, this guy is just impressive as hell. excellent muscles. good luck in the judging!

PROtecta

03-09-2002, 02:51 PM

Very nice final. I thought u rigged him? ;) But he's still in his modeling pose?! I've noticed that the "kilt" seems not to cast shadows...is that right & if yes, why? :D
U know I love your work!

What about your hand? ;)

Greetz
PRO

lildragon

03-09-2002, 05:12 PM

Carny man that's a stroke of sweet goodness :) I'm updating the compilation page right now and I know you and Neox collab but I would so love to put this pic http://www.hipoly.de/images/Wasteman_pic_03.jpg under your name, it's just SCHWAY!!!

what app you use again?

p.s this pose alone gave you my vote ;)

a su salud