Have You Heard About Panaris Ceremony?, Byungryang Lee (2D)

[prophecy313]

Wow! Very good job! Very interesting composition and nice use of colors

[Maxko]

That's cool:thumbsup: . Great work!

[ekah]

Very cool illustration. Is that your signature on the little guy's head? :)

[plastik892]

Slobbering mecho-moths and fetus faries with mo-hawks. Crazy :D

Very nice image. The faires seem to get lost in the rest of the image at the bottom though. Lots of nice atmosphere, both fantasical and claustrophobic.

[Ryoka]

4 stars for me !! Very amazing work !!! Good continuation !

[jcamp]

EXCELLENT atmosphere!!, great design , for me :) "destroyed" fantasy here!
What is the story behind this artwork? How many time did you pass on it?
***** stars. Is it traditionnnal art?
keep it up!!

[MVDB]

fantastic piece of work!
So much in here for us to see.. Lovin' the atmosphere/mood...
Good lighting. I enjoyed watching this.. :thumbsup:

[authentic]

WOw fabulous. LOve the distinction between so ugly and sweet characters.
Love your style. 5stars for me.

[Loulu79]

Powerful illustration, man!:applause:

I love them cute little creatures. I like the way you did the dead scary creature too. It's now one of my desktop collections if you don't mind.:D

[Urrgos]

Crazy stuff. But crazy in an awesome way! The textures and detailing are amazing. Your lighting is really strong too, with nice contrast separating the different elements. It is kind of frightening and cute all at the same time... a strange combination to be sure. Very imaginative! Great work.

[iChiaz]

Amazing work! :thumbsup:

[J.M.Schwedt]

Fantastic, it's just fantastic!

[Kaspaas]

I'm well impressed. Great stuff dude :buttrock: 5*

[seccad]

impressive work, amazing focus

[zwiTTeR]

Ohhhh god!! very good work! :bounce: I love your style! , ¡impresive!. Conglaturations :-) , all is fabulous.

[EhsanD]

WOW ... just this ... no words .
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=303752
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=310136

[Blackheart Gang]

WOW! Love it ...that is incredible,so inspiring! One of the best images i've seen in a long time. :thumbsup:

[Davanger]

I see it as the "larger" creature had been a threat and killing the "smaller" creatures for long enough. It was time to put it out of its misery. :P

I like the design of the little guys, the spears take then out of what would normally be cute boundary. I like the rugged texture to the large creature as well.

~Davanger

[hhssuu]

pretty interesting stuff, i love it :)

[Mowgli Art]

nice work , i really like it!

[rawwad]

Incredible work! I love it, amazing style and details. Also idea and chracters are great. 5stars :thumbsup:

[alfsea]

Slobbering mecho-moths and fetus faries with mo-hawks. Crazy :D

Very nice image. The faires seem to get lost in the rest of the image at the bottom though. Lots of nice atmosphere, both fantasical and claustrophobic.

I LOVE IT. A really unusual idea and beautiful execution.

But! I never saw the fairiy creatures at the bottom until plastik892 talked about them. (Thanks plastik)

Maybe they could be lightened up a little bit so we'd all see them easier?

[SeifoSid]

congrats on the award, great image here, lovely detail and great fantasy.

[Mykeac]

The comment about lightening the lower fairies is the only area in a beautiful piece that could have alterations. I noticed the top light fairy instantly and was bewitched by it but the lower ones disappointed me as their tones are too close to the background and the monster.

[paladrian]

Wow!:eek:


I love EVERYTHING about this picture :applause:

5 stars from me :thumbsup:

[illoomy]

it is fantastic. awsome work ***** 5stars from me !

[Davanger]

Im not sure what the Initial Intention of the Image was suposed to be. But I like how the one smaller creature is brighter and hovering about the fallen beast. It was that Individual who made the final blow. The strongest, The "One".

Just an Idea as to why he's diffrent from the rest. Its the Story I got When i saw the Image.

~Davanger

[HuiTian]

i love this pic very much!
the works in your homepage are great too,especially the posters.

[Leebrush]

when i look at it,i think that it is the real thing!

[rambrandt]

I see a lot of detail; but what is really there? There is an attempt to create some kind of flying creature of insect-like design with gnarly teeth lying dead in partial decay. Some small, possibly parasitic creatures, also of insect evolution with animated traits, but little real character appear to orbit about the carcass. In contrast the background has significantly less attention to detail with poorly drawn fish-like creatures placed as though to just fill a void to finish the work. The whole background was crudely blurred out to create a perspective effect. Lack of experience with this effect led to excessive blurring in the foreground which should have been clearly seen.
Though there is a lot of detail in the large carcass, it's not very believable because it lacks an artists sense of the basic structure of any animal life (i.e., fibers exposed in the arm appear like spaghetti rather than any real inner organs, and the other details are just 'filled in' with bumps and shadows). This is fine if you are drawing a cartoon whose main attention is to the humor of the illustration. But this vague attempt at fantasy lacks the wisdom of experience of any kind with drawing real nature. The best fantasy expresses not so much a vagueness of an understanding of this inherent detail as a diminution of real detail in lieu of artistic artifice and design; an artistic variation on the theme of life, if you will.
There is always hope, of course, but this is but a very small step in this young man's journey to that possible greatness.

[Davanger]

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This site is set up to help one another progress futher...In a Constructive manner, Not this!

[rambrandt]

Well, Davanger, I believe there are plenty of seats at the BACK of the class.
I'm afraid I don't take crass, indefinite rebuking any better now than I ever took crass, indefinite criticism from fellow art students or instructors (although I don't think my criticism in this case was spurious or vague). What I did in such cases, rather than attacking my critics as in defense of assassins, was to persevere, surmounting any inappropriate fear or insecurities that were thusly triggered; eventually mastering my own artistic destiny, as we all should, else we fall by the wayside in despair, demeaning our creative urges and denying future patrons the sharing of our ultimately unmitigated artistic expression.
I myself believe that art, like humor, is at once a seemingly vapid response to an untimely set of feelings and sensitivities to which we react in infinitely varied, almost metaphysically satisfying ways, never fully satisfying our urge for more but for an instant. It is a plus if it is to the penny as satisfying as a career.
Criticize the art, not its expression. 'Nuff said.
(And I'll bet you've got at least one more insipid response.)

[Stahlberg]

I'm afraid I don't take crass, indefinite rebuking any better now than I ever took crass, indefinite criticism from fellow art students or instructors

Let me make this very non-indefinite for you then.

Please be polite in these forums.

It's one of the rules you agreed to when creating your account.

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[Anarki3000]

jeez rambrandt... if you compare this work with other cg choice awarded pics, u might think this one's a real good one. In my opinion, the author painted this one in a unique style, his own.. NOT yours. But if you like so much photorealism.. I suggest taking a look at mattepaintings...

NO OFFENSE

[rambrandt]

I'm not sure what to make of your inability to see anything more than an insult to the artist in my critique of his work. Seriously, how would you critique this work, or for that matter, ANY of the works on this site without making some waves of resentment here or there. Do you really expect everyone to blandly conform to this banal 'great-awesome-nice work' response pattern that permeates this forum? Surely you don't expect this kind of response to your own work when placed in a supposedly 'open' forum of discussion? Or do you?
If the artist complained to you behind my back, as it were, then feel free to reveal the essence of this complaint and I'll re-evaluate my assertions. If that essence included the words, "it hurt my feelings', then that is not an assessment of politeness and I would hope that you wouldn't wallow in the indignity of raising such a complaint to the level of an assault on his character, which I obviously never alluded to.
If you are just following the lead of the previous author who has no valid right to complain about my critique (Rule #1. Show respect to the OPINIONS and feelings of others.), and who simply stated that my critique was not constructive (he said nothing about being 'polite'), then I'm sorry that you prefer to engage HIS mouth before YOUR brain in this matter.
If the purpose of this site is simply to gain advertising points (in the form of ad hits) by displaying the excellent effort of real computer graphics artists from around the world, and you had to allow commenting as an unfortunate afterthought, then I will simply, and completely happily recuse myself from EVER making a critique on this forum again. It is quite unfortunate that someone with half a mind can't articulate an intelligent criticism whose essence is more acute than "great job, dude".

[Stahlberg]

Seriously, how would you critique this work, or for that matter, ANY of the works on this site without making some waves of resentment here or there?

Okay, since you ask - c&c 101:

First mention one or more positive points, something you like about the work. For instance:
"This is such a unique idea and style, beautiful in an eerie way."
Then you approach your crits directly and without exaggeration - no "very" or other modifiers like that. You should add "I think" or "IMO" here and there. You should use "seems" instead of "is". (Because who's to say that your opinion is the correct one?) You may even add a "maybe" or "perhaps" or "a bit", and a smiley or "no offense". Like this:
"The detailing is a bit much all over, seems unnatural and pattern-like, I think maybe you should practise drawing natural environments some more. :)
I also don't think there would be DOF blur in front of the creature, and there's too much behind, or maybe it's just that it's not a realistic DOF blur, maybe you should study such blur in real photos some more."
Then you can end with something encouraging and positive, like "keep up the good work!"
Don't harp, don't repeat the same advice twice with different wordings, it gives a negative impression. If the artist doesn't get it the first time that's his problem not yours.

I'm sorry that you prefer to engage HIS mouth before YOUR brain in this matter.
Yes that's right, blame the other guy for the fight.
You guys are just like my kids sometimes. I hear some commotion, I check, I see one of them hitting the other one. Annoyed about having my rules broken and my work interrupted, I tell him to stop or it's time-out. What does he do? He whines "BUT HE STARTED IT!" Which, instead of having the intended effect of me apologizing to him and turning against his brother, of course simply gets me more annoyed. I tell them I don't care who started it, I'm ending it, and if I hear any more crap they're both in time-out.

If the artist complained to you behind my back No he didn't, it was a third party. Apparently your post has made it to another forum somewhere, as an example of a bad crit. From there it came back to us here.

[rambrandt]

Ehhmmm, class?
Today we'll discuss the esoterics of criticism. There seems to be some confusion regarding its proper usage and, specifically, its use by myself. I'll try to respond in brief, and in slow, plodding syllables for the daft.
First, the ? of brevity. In word, brevity is brief, lacking words; lacking content; usually lacking 'information'. For criticism to be valuable, it must contain 'information'. Statements like 'cool picture', or 'awesome, dude' have little critical value to anyone assaying their meaning. You may as well say, "nice weather here in Boulder" or "I was eating a very nice omelet while looking at this work" or "I'll bet you're a Dodger fan". SOME out there might take these brief expressions to mean, "wow, you are the best at what you do and I can't really say a single bad thing about your work", but I could just as easily assume the author also meant, "I really can't say anything more due to my lack of artistic experience (perspective, interest, vocabulary, etc.)" because these brief phrases (they don't even qualify as sentences, by definition) are basically useless.
Worse yet, this forum would have you believe that an artists experience should be steeped in such pithy comments, else you are being rude or impolite. But let's look at this for a moment. If the expression "fantastic work" qualifies as a brief, polite comment, and it is in fact a rather crude comment basically, then what is a contrariwise expression, a "negative" critique, if you will, of the same brief, crude expression. I would guess something like "wow, that sucks (blows, ain't cool, etc.)". Now, I don't know about this forum, but I would guess that THIS expression would be considered impolite and crude and the person would be warned as I was warned.
Now, as an aside, I'll look at your response, Mr. Stahlberg.
1. If I don't like a picture, then I won't have a positive comment to make. My crit will only be negative. Ergo, according to you, I can't continue elucidating my crit and I must refrain from expressing my opinion. That's ignorant.
2. "no "very" or other modifiers like that." So you can't say things like "very good" or "very bad". What language do they speak on your planet, if I may ask?
3. "You should use "seems" instead of "is"." All I can say is, life "seems" and life "is". You should study some existentialism or have sex more often or in some other way, get out there and experience it. You foreigners are always living out of your Whatever-to-English dictionaries, looking for the MEANING of life in syllables, nouns, verbs and qualifiers. Get a grip! FEEL the words; LIVE the experience!
4. I feel sorry for you. Even though you have the use of English, with the largest vocabulary of any language, you still feel that our use of it in this forum should be limited to a subset of the average 6th grader's vocabulary, to some generic list you have in your head (since it's not a part of the 'rules'). And you feel that this limited lexicon (forumese?) is all that any other human needs to express their thoughts.
Well, I'm sorry to inform you of this, but language is also an art. And just as it would be inappropriate for your site to limit artworks to a limited subject matter or color pallet, you can't place a limit on the use of language, other than maybe the use of a limited group of words considered vulgar and useless, such as "asshole" as used in a sentence such as, "This Stahlberg character is a real asshole". Or the word "butt-plug" as in, "It isn't Stahlberg's fault he is so anal, he just can't remove his butt-plug". These are inappropriate words for a forum, don't you agree?
5. For fully HALF of your retort you had an opportunity to mention the reference I made to the #1 rule of the forum, to "Show respect to the opinions..." of others. The comments made by viewers of this forum are NOT to be the subject of other's comments. I believe those responsible for this are called "moderators". A "good" moderator only steps in to "regulate" a discussion when it is "out of control". A "smart" moderator isn't influenced by the opinions of those who would use the forum to promote their own moral, political or personal motives. The "best" moderators are the ones who use their head, respect the uniqueness of each person (and that this implies a varied point of view) and, ultimately, respect the Internet as the most profound form of "open" communication ever created by man, for ALL men. A "communist" moderator would severly inpinge on any freedom of expression, severly limiting it to a small subset of those expressions that people will normally use, even limiting "how" those are expressed. Need I say more?
6. Finally, let your kids express themselves without punishing them for their WORDS! It's more important that they try to understand their FEELINGS in these situations. Don't punish them because they must use WORDS to express themselves. In a forum, all you have are words to express yourself. But your children are trying to experience life BEYOND their words. Unfortunately, we force our children to use words to communicate, as though they contain some magical quality. You must try to look BEYOND their words; try to show more appreciation for their feelings. Give their lives more meaning than their words can convey.And certainly don't punish them if their vocabularies are larger than yours.

[superhooman]

Take away rambrants Thesaurus and his posts would probably say "I is troll, u suX0r".

You are trying oh so very hard to appear intellectual and educated but you're just coming across as a pompous ass. Step down off your soap box of self-appointed art deification and maybe people will take you more seriously. Right now your comments are just amusing and ultimately worthless.

[Davanger]

We shouldnt have to point out or quote you about what in your critique was Rude and what could actually be Useful. I do agree that some things you said could be used to improve on the painting, but those points could have been written diffrent to follow the guidelines, and the positive read that this site is so known for. Its as easy at that.

Milkman Dan, love the Thesaurus dig, perfectly expressed. Just about every third word he uses is unnecessary...Ergo, Vis-a`-Vie, Concordantly!

Icaso, This picture is awsome keep up the good work and we hope to see more in the future!

[Anarki3000]

Yo rambrandt.... I think every artist is a normal person, not one as "educated" as you.. what the heck are you trying to show here? just let it go, man... we understand, although we're just normal, dum as a rock, we still enjoy some beautiful stuff here at cgsociety. just let the dumdums draw and......... Philosophers like you write poetry or something while playing with your dick..tionary (oh i'm so sorry for this cgtalk but we're all grown men and women here, and after all i've read in here... jeeez)

So.... this is how cgchoice awarded pics receive so many pages of c&cs
Hmm.. I should critic my own works.. imma go straight ahead and write a million words... rambrandt style

Just stop being a.... (a thousand beeps for censorship)

[怪力牛童呦]

Oh,MY GOD. I like it

[Bonedaddy]

Looking good. Sort of a cross between Nausicaa and Mononoke Hime.

[lazzhar]

This is a nice composition !! congratulation dude !

ps: 怪力牛童呦 I like your name.

[i12805]

I'm sorry, that I repeat previously asked question, but what is the story behind the picture?

[Cassnyd]

It's cool and creepy at the same time. Great detail on the wings.

4 stars:thumbsup:

[Chupacabra]

Excellent. Stars from me.

Best,

[sunrainzpp410]

Amazing work! :thumbsup: and 4 stars.

[mfchu]

nice work you've done here....

[CGadrian]

wowowowowowow!!!


excelent work !

5 stars !

[mykhel]

It's all been said. But I will say it again. TERRIFIC!

[Nemes]

yeah yeah am likin this one alot :)

Its a highly complex piece done in a very original style :)

You have captured a great scene there and its really a very viewable peice indeed :)

Great stuff...

Nemes

[shrin]

It is so beautful ! I like the picture.

[artsJones]

Fantastic !

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