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Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 02:25 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW-012-Announcement-.jpg

Welcome to the TWELFTH thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!!!

This workshop is open to any medium and any style. Some informal moderation
will be gladly provided by Rebecca Kimmel ~ however, the purpose of the
Workshop is for Artists to interact with and informally critique one another’s work.


This week we will be trying something new, and working from a Master Painting by William Bouguereau:

Note: This Workshop will last at least 3, and possibly 4 weeks. Depending on how far people get in 3 weeks, we may extend the time period to 4 weeks.

William Bouguereau (1825-1905)

"Dante et virgile aux enfers" (corrected title) :D

Translated title: Dante and Virgil in Hell
1850
Oil on canvas
110 5/8 x 88 1/2 inches (281 x 225 cm)

>>RULES FOR THE THREADS<<




1. Photographs are the property of artrenewal.org (http://www.artrenewal.org/) and are copyrighted as such.

2. The drawings created from the photo reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL, SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately
and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread. Rebecca Kimmel reserves the right to determine which drawings are considered to be in poor taste and / or disrespectful to the Reference used here in the OFDWs.3. There is NO TIME LIMIT for posting on this thread.

3. Typically, new threads containing new photographs will be posted on a bi-weekly basis ~ however, for this Workshop, 3~4 weeks will be allowed before the next OFDW.

4. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished.

5. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.

6. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique ~ however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :)

7. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.

8. EDIT: 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so. I just ask that you post your work here as well as in any 3D forum in which you post your work.

9. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

10. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :)

LINKS to Photographs: WARNING: Nudity:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_01.jpg)REFERENCE IMAGE: Master Painting by William Bouguereau (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1066&hires=1)

Alternate REFERENCE IMAGE source (same painting as above): Master Painting by William Bouguereau (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers.jpg)

PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. Please DO post WIP images as you work on your pieces. :)

Good luck! :)



~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-23-2006, 02:33 AM
One of my favourite Bouguereau paintings! You can count me in this time. (At some point can we do a Gustav Doré?):D

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 02:34 AM
Awesome, Martin! I can't wait! :bounce:

Originally posted by Martin: (At some point can we do a Gustav Doré?) :D
Of course! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
01-23-2006, 03:45 AM
Woot!.!.!.:p

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 03:45 AM
I second that! W00t x 2! :p

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 04:35 AM
Here is my very rough start...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_02.jpg

Lemog
01-23-2006, 05:31 AM
Damn... this #12 is really interesting... with one my favorites painters... I can't :cry:

:scream: hahahaha

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Lolo: Damn... this #12 is really interesting... with one my favorites painters... I can't :cry:

:scream: hahahaha
I know...you have too much to do...:cry:...maybe we can clone the Lemog? :shrug::scream:

Lemog
01-23-2006, 06:14 AM
Do you really want frighten many people Beckie ? :scream: hahaha

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 06:47 AM
I'm not trying to get ahead of everyone, it's just that with the upcoming Workshop, I think I'll have to more or less duck out of this one...even though it's something really cool, and I'd like to see it through...so here's my little update of the moment...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_03.jpg

Ego
01-23-2006, 06:50 AM
**FAINTS!

Why oh why was I not notified via the bat light!!
This is my most favorite painter in the entire universe and beyond :D
Dare I?

daWinky
01-23-2006, 06:51 AM
That's a beautiful reference:) ! A lot of hands and feet, difficult...but perfect for learning purposes...I think I can't resist to give this a try in spite of my poor drawing and painting skills... is it possible to post the wips in the beginners lounge:blush: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)...would be better for me - especially seeing the first updates here!

-sabrina

MechaHateChimp
01-23-2006, 06:55 AM
http://www.killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01.jpg (http://www.killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01-res.jpg)http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01.jpg (http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01-res.jpg)

I decided to start this one out differently so I threw on some hip hop and pulled out my old sketchbook.This is my foundation sketch and was done the same way I used to start my traditional illustrations... I grid-ed that bastard! :buttrock:

I'm back in Kendo for most of this week but will try to squeeze in some work here and there.

You can click on the image to view high res version (it looks a little weak sauce where I stitched it together... I have dinky scanner and my sketchbook was too big :shrug: )

Rebecca - Awesome start!

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Queenie: **FAINTS!

Why oh why was I not notified via the bat light!!
This is my most favorite painter in the entire universe and beyond :D
Dare I?
Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! :D :bounce:

Originally posted by sabrina: That's a beautiful reference:) ! A lot of hands and feet, difficult...but perfect for learning purposes...I think I can't resist to give this a try in spite of my poor drawing and painting skills... is it possible to post the wips in the beginners lounge:blush: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)...would be better for me - especially seeing the first updates here!
Come on sabrina! Join in! Feel free to post where you like...here, or the Beginner's Lounge...I think you will be fine here...why not give it a shot? :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 07:02 AM
Mecha,

Thanks! Wow, that sketch looks awesome! Why why why why why do I never think to start off traditionally? You would think...:rolleyes: :D *I mean, duh* :scream:

Really looking forward to this OFDW...why oh why did I decide to do this iright before the Workshop? :scream:

Ego
01-23-2006, 07:24 AM
...why oh why did I decide to do this iright before the Workshop? :scream:

Because you are a sucker for extremely pressured situations? Makes for faster looser art work? :p

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Queensoul: Because you are a sucker for extremely pressured situations? Makes for faster looser art work? :p
That is SOoooo true!!! I was just thinking that tonight...I so work best under pressure. When I am waiting and there's nothing to do, I am a horrible slacker. But give me a million things at once, and suddenly I am Miss Organization! :scream: Figure that! :D

BTW, I saw your post on OFDW 011 ~ but I can't reply to that thread, all of today...sorry Queenie...my computer seems to choose 1 or 2 threads a day to which I can't reply...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 07:45 AM
One more small update before I collapse...ack...:D...waiting for Europe to wake up can be exhausting...:curious: :scream: Goodnight, all! :wavey:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_04.jpg

Amerasu
01-23-2006, 08:07 AM
Yay! I can't wait to get started on this. Unfortunately, I'm out for the next 2 days but will get on it as soon as I get back. I'm going to do what Mecha did and grid that painting. I think that will be my best shot for getting this right.

Amazing painting.

Art2
01-23-2006, 08:39 AM
http://www.killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01.jpg (http://www.killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-01-res.jpg)

Awesome start!

Excellent sketch Mecha!! :thumbsup:
You could post it as the initial sketch to the real painting and people would believe you (minus the scanlines of course :D )

fredlovebot
01-23-2006, 09:27 AM
Excellent choice Rebeccak! :bounce: Great start! I'm probably going to use the same 'method', blocking in with masses instead of linesketch. Your using Painter or Photoshop?
Can't wait to get started on this one! This schoolday is going to feel loooooong :scream:

Mecha Hate Chimp: Wow, great sketch! I would be totally satisfied if I could put out a sketch like that :applause:

SaraD
01-23-2006, 09:42 AM
And as soon as work stop piling up, I´m in!! I´ve been waiting for this one.

Great start Becca and Mecha :bounce:. That grid is good to have ;)

//Sara

Llynna
01-23-2006, 09:52 AM
WOW........ great idea becca, i really need to find time for this :) (stupid exams in 2 weeks....)


@mecha: really good start! that you can accomplish that while listening to hip hop ;PPPP

erilaz
01-23-2006, 10:34 AM
WOW........ great idea becca, i really need to find time for this :) (stupid exams in 2 weeks....)


@mecha: really good start! that you can accomplish that while listening to hip hop ;PPPP

Simple... study 15 mins, draw 15 mins, study 15 mins...

ClausSimonsen
01-23-2006, 10:53 AM
I don't like how the colors are bleeding all over the place, but I console myself by remembering that it's still not done and I'll make it more perfect when I get to the details. Began with my third charcoal sketch, going to add in the other people/creatures later. I'm posting now because I'm about dead on my feet and I probably won't be painting on this again for a couple days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/Reference/VampireSketch01.jpg

fooxoo
01-23-2006, 11:00 AM
Ohh I ll do this one, cause I really like the painting :D Cheers :D

Ravena
01-23-2006, 11:19 AM
Great idea Rebecca and good work so far.
The picture provokes me so much that I also began to draw. First I began also with gray tones, but that is not my thing, I thus roughly the colors distributed and then I merge down the graytone-layer with my color-layer.
Here it is:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2811/2301200614ku.jpg

@Mecha Hate Chimp
Yes, great start with your sketch! Can't wait you coloring it.
@Vizon
Wow, you are so far with the details, also good work so far.

(Sorry for my very bad English.)
Ciao,

Ravena

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 12:14 PM
Wow, guys, so many responses! This is to be a great Workshop for sure! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-23-2006, 12:15 PM
Rebecca, this is me trying out the first stages of the Anthony Ryder technique. Not technically the BEST work (as stated in the rules), but I thought you'd be interested to see my progress using the book.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/open/danteRyderAtttempt001.jpg

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 12:17 PM
Great approach, Martin! I more or less did the same thing with my piece...it really helps! Great to have you aboard this one! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Elsie
01-23-2006, 12:24 PM
Woot, I am here on time this time and I swear on my beloved 'puter that I will start and I will finish ^^. Some lovely stuff so far, now am all intimidated :p. Something later today, promise!

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 12:25 PM
Yay, Elsie! I know you can do it, girl! :thumbsup: Bring the Urg too! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-23-2006, 12:31 PM
As soon as i finished this website-job i'll jump in! Was soo looking forward to this workshop :bounce:

erilaz
01-23-2006, 12:32 PM
Woot, I am here on time this time and I swear on my beloved 'puter that I will start and I will finish ^^. Some lovely stuff so far, now am all intimidated :p. Something later today, promise!


Bah, you'll kick all our asses and still have energy for dessert.:)

urgaffel
01-23-2006, 12:35 PM
Yay, Elsie! I know you can do it, girl! :thumbsup: Bring the Urg too! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

We'll see about that... I'm starting a new job soon and don't know if I will have time for it :blush: Besides, Elsie is probably going to do a better job than me so I will be all intimidated and stuff... :D

mark-jenkins
01-23-2006, 12:36 PM
Definately count me in, but I am busy at work today when all I want to do is paint!!! Will try to make a start in my lunch break. Rebecca, you asked me to wait until today and now I have some catching up to do!! So many great starts already.

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 12:37 PM
Peter,

Great to see you here! :thumbsup: Good luck on the new job...and let us know how it goes. :) Yes, watch out for the Elsinator! :scream: Kidding! Would be great to see both of your paintings / drawer~ings. :)

*crap! Work beckons!*

Cheers, :)

~Rk

default-rol
01-23-2006, 12:47 PM
I'm gonna do this one... but first my MA project!! :scream:

MIKE *Will begin on Wednesday*

Mu
01-23-2006, 01:00 PM
Everyone!

How dare you post such excellent work on the very first day of this workshop?

I already feel lightyears behind you all!

I will spend the first few days with studies of the particular parts of the painting before I go for a complete composition...:)

ericyeo
01-23-2006, 01:21 PM
hi everyone, count me in. hope I can finish this one :D

Pinoy McGee
01-23-2006, 01:51 PM
Very interested in participating. But can I use another Bourguereau painting as source?

Thanks Rebecca.

EAD
01-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Lets ROCK!!:buttrock:

Cant help but get caught up in the tide. I'm on it.

The CGminions are obviously enjoying the violence in this image.... GO GUYS!!

great work so far RK and Mecha

Mu
01-23-2006, 02:08 PM
Hi there,

studying these poses is so much fun! I will keep on doing this for the first week! yooohooo!

around 15mins. Trying to understand the opposing curves in this painting

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9488/firststudy0ww.jpg

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Lol! Great to see so many regulars and new people in on the 'CGTide' as AOAH so aptly calls it! :scream: Really looking forward to this...let's go guys! *Charge!* :bounce:

WOW! Really nice start there, Mr. Mu! :thumbsup:

EAD
01-23-2006, 02:23 PM
Just noticed Elsie's radiohead avatar. it so sums up the feeling around this workshop.:scream:. sorry.. spamming.... will go draw now

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Pinoy McGee: Very interested in participating. But can I use another Bourguereau painting as source?

Thanks Rebecca.
If you can send me the link to an image off of artrenewal.org (the hi~res version) I'll take a look at it. :) I think it might be nice though, since it's such a big undertaking, to focus on the same painting all together here...but I really see no problem so long as the image is not scanned from a book. :)

Can you post the link here, and if it's cool I'll add it to the first post? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-23-2006, 03:17 PM
OK Guys, I have been waiting all week for this one and it looks like everyone has been up all night getting a great start. I will post my first in the morning. I just downloaded the picture.

fredlovebot
01-23-2006, 05:10 PM
Everyone is so enthusiastic! I expect to see alot of great work! :buttrock:

First WIP-image from me, rough as hell though :D
Basicly only the form is there (and ofcourse I'm getting into detailing waaay to early)
Anatomy is off in certain places too. But I'm getting there.

(1h)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/gorgnut/blocking.png

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 05:21 PM
gorgnut,

Nice! I just got to take a quick peek :D ~ great start! :thumbsup: Looking forward to your next update!

EDIT: Ravena, you too! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-23-2006, 05:21 PM
@gorgnut
Great start. :)
@all
Wish you much fun with drawing as I have.

Here is my update:
http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/7240/2301200625ty.jpg
That becomes a long night today. *g*


Ciao,
Ravena

Elsie
01-23-2006, 07:02 PM
A quick outline to start with :) Looking forward to adding some colours, I spent quite a while looking at the very nice colours used on the skin in the Bourguereau - almost luminous. Can't wait to get started on those...wheep ^^!

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/6117/ver018yt.jpghttp://img492.imageshack.us/img492/7746/ver024vs.jpg
http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/5525/ver031lm.jpg

fooxoo
01-23-2006, 07:04 PM
Ok,cause I REALLY like this painting, and reading the acutal literary work was not that bad and it was quite interesting, I am trying to do this one too :P In pencil. This is on A3 size page, this basic outline took about 2 hours to do. Sorry for the bad scan, I had to stitch it as itwontfiton the scanner, and the pencil lines are very light...

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5941/untitled16ci.jpg

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Amerasu: Yay! I can't wait to get started on this. Unfortunately, I'm out for the next 2 days but will get on it as soon as I get back. I'm going to do what Mecha did and grid that painting. I think that will be my best shot for getting this right.

Amazing painting.
Can't wait to have you on board! :bounce:

Originally posted by gorgnut: Excellent choice Rebeccak! Great start! I'm probably going to use the same 'method', blocking in with masses instead of linesketch. Your using Painter or Photoshop?
Can't wait to get started on this one! This schoolday is going to feel loooooong
Heya gorgnut, glad you are joining us! I'm using Photoshop. :)

Originally posted by SaraD: And as soon as work stop piling up, I´m in!! I´ve been waiting for this one.

Great start Becca and Mecha. That grid is good to have
Thanks! Can't wait to see the beautiful work you'll produce for this one! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Llynna: WOW........ great idea becca, i really need to find time for this (stupid exams in 2 weeks....)
Hope you can join us, Llynna! You've been away for too long! ;)

Originally posted by Vizon: I don't like how the colors are bleeding all over the place, but I console myself by remembering that it's still not done and I'll make it more perfect when I get to the details. Began with my third charcoal sketch, going to add in the other people/creatures later. I'm posting now because I'm about dead on my feet and I probably won't be painting on this again for a couple days.
Great to see you joining in! Looking forward to seeing your piece develop. Don't worry, all pieces start out this way ~ we've got at least 3weeks to refine!

Originally posted by fooxoo: Ohh I ll do this one, cause I really like the painting Cheers
Great to see you here, fooxoo! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by zng-Y: As soon as i finished this website-job i'll jump in! Was soo looking forward to this workshop
Great to see you back!! :)

Originally posted by MarcoJ: Definately count me in, but I am busy at work today when all I want to do is paint!!! Will try to make a start in my lunch break. Rebecca, you asked me to wait until today and now I have some catching up to do!! So many great starts already.
I so know what you mean! :D

Originally posted by Mike: I'm gonna do this one... but first my MA project!!

MIKE *Will begin on Wednesday*
You have to promise! :D

Originally posted by Mr. Mu: Everyone!

How dare you post such excellent work on the very first day of this workshop?

I already feel lightyears behind you all!

I will spend the first few days with studies of the particular parts of the painting before I go for a complete composition...
Let's go Musters!

Originally posted by ericyeo: hi everyone, count me in. hope I can finish this one
Hey there, welcome back!

Originally posted by aggie93: OK Guys, I have been waiting all week for this one and it looks like everyone has been up all night getting a great start. I will post my first in the morning. I just downloaded the picture.
Hey aggie93! Good to see you here. :)

fooxoo, really nice start! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-23-2006, 07:35 PM
yeah! Everyone's here. The enthusiasm is very infectious. I guess everyone loves Bouggie! I'll hopefully get started on this Wednesday as I have to finish with number 011.

woodyradica
01-23-2006, 07:43 PM
HI All

Havent done one of thease in a while so i thought it was about time for me to get back to it...:)

here are the first steps

http://www.finaldeadline.com/sketches/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers%20copy1.jpg

http://www.finaldeadline.com/sketches/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers%20copy2.jpg

http://www.finaldeadline.com/sketches/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers%20copy3.jpg

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 07:44 PM
Queensoul,

Sweet! :)

woodyradica,

Great start, and great to see you back!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fredlovebot
01-23-2006, 08:44 PM
Update!
Only work on the right character, still loooong way to go :scream:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/gorgnut/blockingmore.png

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 09:53 PM
Heh...:D

I've just received notice that the correct title in French should be:

"Dante et virgile aux enfers"

Lemog, how could you not tell me! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elsie
01-23-2006, 10:09 PM
Lemog, how could you not tell me! :scream:


He didn't know, his french is just terrible :wise:, take it from me, I flunked high school french. "Je suis un fromage poulet - le pomme de terre, c'est magnifique!"

Er...ANYWAY :D

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1199/ver047dq.jpg

Started some colouring...

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Elsie: He didn't know, his french is just terrible :wise:
:scream: LMDO...Laugh My Derrière Off! :scream:

Nice start Elsie! :bounce:Erg...wish I could be home now...:D

redehlert
01-23-2006, 10:19 PM
well i think i just piddled in my pants looking at that painting. couldn't find anything more difficult than this, eh, RK? ;)
okay, well i think i'll be in on this one....be nice to do a study rather than a creature and character over in CA.org.
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Dave: well i think i just piddled in my pants looking at that painting. couldn't find anything more difficult than this, eh, RK? ;)
okay, well i think i'll be in on this one....be nice to do a study rather than a creature and character over in CA.org.
Yeah! Go Dave! :bounce:

Slowly we will convert you! :D

Cheers, ;)

~Rk

redehlert
01-23-2006, 10:23 PM
Never!! Moohohahaha.
BTW, I'll be reading through the material this eve and get back to ya. :)

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 10:24 PM
Party pooper! Or, as they say in Bawston...Pahty Poopah! :wise:

Just kiddin' ya, Davetastic. :) Glad to have you aboard. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

aggie93
01-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Ok,cause I REALLY like this painting, and reading the acutal literary work was not that bad and it was quite interesting, I am trying to do this one too :P In pencil. This is on A3 size page, this basic outline took about 2 hours to do. Sorry for the bad scan, I had to stitch it as itwontfiton the scanner, and the pencil lines are very light...

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5941/untitled16ci.jpg

Great beginning fooxoo, I normally work in pencil and plan on starting this one in pencil on a 24 X 36 tonight. If everything goes well, I just might use watercolor pencils to finish it off.

Gees, everyone is off to a great start. I am just getting off work so I will go home now and play catch up!

See y'all in the morning!

SpiritDreamer
01-23-2006, 11:44 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Step #1 Used broad tinting brush, Painter 9
Very quick broad strokes, flowing with motion and emotion
Just trying to get a oneness that is full of energy and
true to the composition
Motion, emotion, oneness, energy
These are the most important aspects of this painting and are its nature or essence.
for lack of better words.
Its these aspects that make it such a powerfull piece, I think.
If I can capture those aspects right from the start, they will always be there
in the underpainting and will shine through in the finished painting.
Hopefully
Step #2 will be to refine and clarify forms without losing the above-mentioned
key or base elements, hopefully
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_2.jpg

Pinoy McGee
01-23-2006, 11:44 PM
Can you post the link here, and if it's cool I'll add it to the first post?

Rebecca, for your consideration :arteest:: http://home.att.net/~hoo10/Bouguereau/lavague.jpg.

Rebeccak
01-23-2006, 11:53 PM
Pinoy McGee,

I have that image saved to my hd for a future OFDW as well :D ~ the thing is, I don't want to use too many of these beautiful images in any one OFDW, as then people won't have time to work on both, when they really might want to ~ and I don't want to have a big backlog of repeating images throughout the OFDWs. I totally agree with you that this is a beautiful image, which is why I'd like to save it for later, when we can all work on it together...well, what does everyone else think?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
01-24-2006, 12:27 AM
just a quick start to get positions mentaly placed and understand the compositional flow of eyes, limbs, etc.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/012306_dante_wip.jpg

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 12:29 AM
Nice gestural start, Davety Dave! :thumbsup: Me needs to get crackin'...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

ericyeo
01-24-2006, 12:44 AM
U guys are fast :D here is my wip
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/ericyeo/Bouguereau/Bouguereau.jpg

Pinoy McGee
01-24-2006, 12:57 AM
I have that image saved to my hd for a future OFDW

Oh, okay. I can wait :D

Elsie
01-24-2006, 01:14 AM
Er...sorry to be an update whore :D I'm just painting away, "in da zone" so to speak :P

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7110/ver050ze.jpg

erilaz
01-24-2006, 01:14 AM
Er...sorry to be an update whore :D I'm just painting away, "in da zone" so to speak :P



Damn nice progression Ailsa.

erilaz
01-24-2006, 01:18 AM
Just a quick analysis... just watch the side of the victim's head. You're showing a little more of that area than in the reference. See how his nose obscures most of his left side?

I know you haven't painted that bit yet, I just thought I'd point it out in passing. You're probably WAY ahead of me anyway. :bowdown:

Elsie
01-24-2006, 01:21 AM
Just a quick analysis... just watch the side of the victim's head. You're showing a little more of that area than in the reference. See how his nose obscures most of his left side?

Ah, thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure to put a mark on my painting to remind me of that :) I've refrained from doing the heads so far because I thought they were a little 'off'!


You're probably WAY ahead of me anyway. :bowdown: Buahaha, yeeeah >_< hehe you're too cute. I am actually kind of pleased how this one is turning out (plus if I whine anymore I think Peter is going to start stapling things to my head)!

erilaz
01-24-2006, 01:32 AM
(plus if I whine anymore I think Peter is going to start stapling things to my head)!

It wouldn't be the first time either! :D

Llynna
01-24-2006, 02:55 AM
well, i tried something too, not too proud of it, but its a start..... somehow the scan got crappy, sorry for that.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Llynna/dante1.jpg

@elsie: gonna catch up to you hon^^. nice progress you are making. maybe i should switch to digital too

v_z
01-24-2006, 04:58 AM
Hi there all,
thought I'd join in. I think I can really do with some crit :)


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/v_z/dante-et-virgil-aux-enfers-.jpg

So this is what I got so far, sadly I haven't had time to get any further.

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 05:04 AM
v_z,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to the OFDWs! :)

I think you have a great start here! One thing I think would be useful to check out are the exercises to be found here ~ try these exercises as a Warm~Up, or try applying the principles found in the exercises linked in the following thread to the Reference image of Bouguereau's image we are using in the OFDW:

Beginners' Lounge (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3186531#post3186531)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3186531#post3186531

There are some really good articles on Gesture Drawing linked in the first post.

They are:

http://www.ndoylefineart.com/gesture3.html

http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa052003a.htm

I think the main thing to focus on first, before adding any details, is the essence of the pose. Generally this is best captured by limiting yourself to only a few minutes for the initial sketch. After you have the initial sketch established, you can layer on details ~ but go for the big picture first, and worry about the details later down the line.

Hope this helps. Great to see you here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-24-2006, 05:25 AM
Goooo Werewolf! You are rocking !

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 05:31 AM
Wow, I missed seeing a lot of posts! :eek:

ericyeo,

Great to see you back! By the way, have you seen the

Color Theory and The Human Figure - NUDITY (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=303793)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=303793

thread lately? It has really grown, and there is a lot of new information there. :)

Pinoy McGee,

Thanks! :) :D

Elsie,

Wow! Looking great! :bounce:

Llynna,

Nice start! Really nice line quality and emotion to the piece so far...:thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

daWinky
01-24-2006, 07:48 AM
Morning everyone!

A lot of nice starts here!:thumbsup:

Just to show that I'm working my starting point for painting...it was not easy for me to do the sketch (untrained) and I think I'm still a little off:shrug: ...for some strange reason the scene looks for me more like a kiss now:scream: ...I hope to get rid of this soon!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Dante_wip1.jpg

-sabrina

SaraD
01-24-2006, 08:08 AM
WOW! What response! And I haven´t even started up painter yet ... I envy all of you:) Have fun! I´ll join you next week I think. Job´s a bit hectic at the moment. As in one of my favouritequotes:
"I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by." Douglas Adams

Icey
01-24-2006, 09:29 AM
yes!! i love it!!
i remember first time i saw "this william guy".. I was astuned! He is my favorite master! :)

the way detail shows on his work without alterateing a bit the image, the simple global lighting, the feeling in his children paintings... wonderful! No words...

this in unfortunatly the only thing i have scanned ..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/IceyLord/142c5083.jpg


but i'll strugle to make time for more with this ocasion :D

Lemog
01-24-2006, 09:58 AM
Morning everyone!

A lot of nice starts here!:thumbsup:

Just to show that I'm working my starting point for painting...it was not easy for me to do the sketch (untrained) and I think I'm still a little off:shrug: ...for some strange reason the scene looks for me more like a kiss now:scream: ...I hope to get rid of this soon!


-sabrina
héhé... glad to see you here Sabie... good courage for you... that already seem well started... good to see :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 12:15 PM
Morning, Sabrina!

Really great start, hahaha, you tried to fool us into thinking that you were 'untrained'...:p...looks really solid, and I'm sure you'll do a great job! :)

Icey,

Beautiful work, the most prominent figure especially! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

mark-jenkins
01-24-2006, 12:28 PM
Wow, so many people participating in this thread already, great stuff. Anyway here is my first post. Just throwing colours down at the moment.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW12-1.jpg

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 12:31 PM
Marco J,

Sure to be a great one! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Gunilla
01-24-2006, 02:15 PM
Morning everyone!

A lot of nice starts here!:thumbsup:

Just to show that I'm working my starting point for painting...it was not easy for me to do the sketch (untrained) and I think I'm still a little off:shrug: ...for some strange reason the scene looks for me more like a kiss now:scream: ...I hope to get rid of this soon!



-sabrina

So there you are! I agree with Beckie - you don't seem untrained at all... really nice start! :thumbsup:

... and I love Bouguereau... maybe... if the time allows... :banghead:

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 02:19 PM
Hey Gunie,

I would love to see you do a piece here! :wavey:

Zapan
01-24-2006, 03:19 PM
Hi everyone !!

All of you have done great great sketches :thumbsup:
Rebecca : gosh , your style rock .... but is that a surprise ?, Mecha Hate Chimp : WOW that's what I call line art :eek: , Erilaz : Hey man , very interesting technic to start , looks pretty solid tho ! keep it up ...

@ Elsie : what the hell is that ? :
"Je suis un fromage poulet - le pomme de terre, c'est magnifique!"


Boahahahahaha :scream: , that's the most meaningless, silly , funny , french sentence ever !!
Ahahahaha, I can't stop laughing .... you have to tell me where did you find it ?? :scream:

Laughing my Derriere off :scream: .... you girls are killing me *falling from my chair*

Awesome painting Elsie tho , :eek:

But... but .... The most important here (at least for me) is .... Sabrina :bounce:
Finally there you are , and with a great start ... ! :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see your *French nut voice* continuation ...

Go go go Sabie *shoulders massage* :bounce:

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 03:28 PM
:rolleyes: French nuts...who can live without them? :scream:

Zapan
01-24-2006, 03:38 PM
French nuts...who can live without them?

Ahahaha , but soon I'm gonna die of laughing :scream:
I'm gonna print a shirt, front : Je suis un fromage poulet - le pomme de terre, c'est magnifique!
Back : Laughing my derriere off

ahahah , thank god I'm gonna have that sentence for the rest of my day :scream: ...

sorry spam ... but it's too damn hard to stop

chears,

ericyeo
01-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Hi Beckie, Yeah I have read through and it is now down to my favourites. :D thank you

Here is my update. I wonder how old master paint in the past, they are so amazing!
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/ericyeo/Bouguereau/Bouguereau2.jpg

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 03:45 PM
Zapan,

This is a minimum spam area :wise: :scream:

ericyeo,

Wow ~ really beautiful! Really glad you like the Color thread...it was your idea, after all. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-24-2006, 04:08 PM
OK, I couldn't find my digital camera for my sketch so I had to use three different scans.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/dente1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/dente2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/dente3.jpg

I am also working this one using art rage. This is my first CG art work. Need help and comments.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers_DE.jpg

fredlovebot
01-24-2006, 04:13 PM
Ahhh all these beautiful images makes my head spin! :eek::scream:
Just makes me wanna get into color someday.. :)

Mr. Mu: Great sketch! I see some real crazy improvements since the beginning off the
Beginners Lounge thread! Lets pull through this together, mate! :bounce:
Update will come later tonight!

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 04:14 PM
aggie93,

The sketches look quite impressive! I think you ought to take a look at some of the tutorials here regarding working in grayscale - using just varying opacities of 3 values of black, white, and gray.

Check this Tutorial on Shading here:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291

and just disregard the note redirecting folks to the Beginner's Lounge. There are several tutorials regarding shading ~ both digital and traditional ~ in the first few posts of that thread.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

augustus
01-24-2006, 04:46 PM
Here is my humble start.

http://august.f2o.org/temp/Bouguereau01.jpg

ericyeo-> Great work so far :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 04:48 PM
Nice 'humble' start, augustus! :thumbsup:

Mu
01-24-2006, 06:17 PM
augustus - this start is as humble as John Wayne walking widepaced into town...:scream:

gorgnut - thanks man, and together in this case means a whole bunch of people - it's what makes this so much fun:wavey:

aggie93 - yay! glad you stepped in. I recommend not giving yourself a hard time though and sticking to greyscale. It's what I am gonna do first, too.

ericyeo, marcoJ and all the others:there's so many of you and I am really excited about everyone's entries. All so different on the same theme - reminds me of a jazzband doing variations on a well known theme.

Rebecca - what on earth does "Let's go Musters mean?!"

Zapan - I'm gonna print a shirt, front : Je suis un fromage poulet - le pomme de terre, c'est magnifique!
Back : Laughing my derriere off

I'd order one of those for sure for my next vacation in france...:scream:

aggie93
01-24-2006, 06:27 PM
Rebeccak and Mr. Mu,

When you refer to grey scale, are you talking about my CG art?

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by aggie93: When you refer to grey scale, are you talking about my CG art?
Yep, we're referring to your digital art. :) Starting out with color is difficult without a solid understanding of value. Value is the range of grays between pure white to pure black.

http://www.valuepalette.com/05-foto/Page%2003%20-%20What%20is%20ValuePalette/Value%20-%20Scales%20-%202,3,5,9,11,21%20&%20255%20values%20-%2072ppi.jpg

http://www.valuepalette.com/05-foto/Page%2003%20-%20What%20is%20ValuePalette/Value%20-%20Scales%20-%202,3,5,9,11,21%20&%20255%20values%20-%2072ppi.jpg

http://www.valuepalette.com/05-foto/Page%2003%20-%20What%20is%20ValuePalette/Value%20-%20Scales%20-%202,3,5,9,11,21%20&%20255%20values%20-%2072ppi.jpg

What I recommend for all beginning digital artists to try is a 3 value painting ~ where you use only white, black, and a mid gray to establish the basic value structure of your image (in this case, the Bouguereau painting). Depending on what program you are using, you should be able to turn your image to grayscale to better help you see values.

Contrary to what most beginning artists believe, it is not Color which defines form but Value.

This method and approach is discussed in depth here:

Anatomy Review 003: SHADING TUTORIAL AND HUMAN SKULL EXERCISE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-24-2006, 06:40 PM
Rebecca, I am using that free download of Art Rage you directed me to. I put the image in the background to trace and started with the oil paint. It automatically picks up the color of the image when I start the brush stroke. To me it is very difficult to work when it does that.

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 06:43 PM
Aggie93,

The thing to remember here is that we're not out to trace the image. ;) Maybe Art2 / Marlon here can provide some answers about ArtRage, since I'm primarily familar with Photoshop. ;) But you want a blank canvas on which to work ~ not an image over which to trace. ;)

Here is a features list comparing the free version of ArtRage (free version) vs. the paid version:

http://www.ambientdesign.com/artragecompare.html

Apparently you cannot load a Reference image in the free version of ArtRage, so you may have to print out the Bouguereau painting as your Reference image.

Bear in mind that the Full version of ArtRage is only $20:

http://www.ambientdesign.com/artragedown.html

A big savings over what you would pay for Photoshop. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elsie
01-24-2006, 06:54 PM
Hi everyone !!

@ Elsie : what the hell is that ? :


Boahahahahaha :scream: , that's the most meaningless, silly , funny , french sentence ever !!
Ahahahaha, I can't stop laughing .... you have to tell me where did you find it ?? :scream:

Laughing my Derriere off :scream: .... you girls are killing me *falling from my chair*

Awesome painting Elsie tho , :eek:



Where did I find it? From the vast knowledge of useless crap in my head :D, I was famous amongst the french girls at my school for my random french. Here's another - "Je vomit dans la mer, c'etait bleu! Ooh la la! Je sortir la poubelle!"...er...that was probably very wrong. I'm gonna stop now before I offend all the French nuts here...

(Thanks for the compliment on the painting :))

K. Scott Gant
01-24-2006, 07:43 PM
Here is the start of mine. I got further, but then all of a sudden Photoshop locked up on me and like an idiot I hadn't been saving it so I had to start all over again. Oh well.

http://xs65.xs.to/pics/06042/Virgile_au_Enfers01.jpg

fredlovebot
01-24-2006, 07:47 PM
Evening update:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/gorgnut/defining.png

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 07:56 PM
K. Scott Gant,

Good to have you aboard! What? Computer problems? :D ;)

gorgnut,

Wow! Great progress! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elsie
01-24-2006, 08:50 PM
Unghhh...paint..too much...brain not...on...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/250/ver070fp.jpg

Mu
01-24-2006, 10:10 PM
gorgnut - I cannot believe my eyes! What did you swallow to make you go off like that? this is exponential skill growth... I am sure there's a law against it!

elsie - this is spectacular. I am already in love with light on the thigh...

aggie93!

Artrage can be made not to automatically pick up color. But if you delete the tracing image you don't have a problem anymore, anyway...;)

as concerns reference, I just right-click the picture (the actual file in explorer, you know) and from the pop-up menu I select "preview" (which is a direct translation from the german name of this menu item, hope it exists in english) you get a preview window (surprise) which you can come back to in a very handy way by switching via "alt-tab" to and fro between artrage and the preview window.
Did that help?
You can drop me a pm - I am pretty comfortable with Artrage. Do you use the new version?


HEre's my second study... I fear you will all be so far in the third week that the chances to expand on a fourth week will be low for me...argh!

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/7997/secondstudy8mm.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-24-2006, 11:57 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Just trying to coax the forms out of the shadows and darkness of the imagination.
In similar method that Michaelangelo coaxed his figures out of marble blocks.
But in this case it is light and shadow using paint.
#2 is light and color study
Going to work this painting out in gray scale and do color and light studies as I
progress with it.
Just experimenting as I go along
Don't know how it will end up color-wise
But hopefully I will learn alot in the process
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_12.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_13.jpg

redehlert
01-25-2006, 12:18 AM
Willickers! Elsie that's lookin' pretty dope. Really poppin' off that black.
That right gastrocnemius from the kneeing demon needs a bit of a beef up and curve - not as much of a sloping straight line as you currently have it. It's been drilled into our heads that there are no straight lines in nature). ;)

Just click your heels together and say it with me:
"There're no straight lines in nature,
there're no straight lines in nature,
there're no straight lines in nature."

Cheers!
Dave
(and your little dog too)

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Smarty Pants :wise: :scream::
Just click your heels together and say it with me:
"There're no straight lines in nature,
there're no straight lines in nature,
there're no straight lines in nature."
Yeah, Dave. You're goin' down. :scream: :scream: :scream: :twisted:

Rebecca's 'no curves' picture of Dave::wise:

Dave --> ___________________________________ ...looks like a flat line to me! :scream:

v_z
01-25-2006, 03:17 AM
v_z,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to the OFDWs! :)

I think you have a great start here! One thing I think would be useful to check out are the exercises to be found here ~ try these exercises as a Warm~Up, or try applying the principles found in the exercises linked in the following thread to the Reference image of Bouguereau's image we are using in the OFDW:

Beginners' Lounge (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3186531#post3186531)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3186531#post3186531

There are some really good articles on Gesture Drawing linked in the first post.

They are:

http://www.ndoylefineart.com/gesture3.html

http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa052003a.htm

I think the main thing to focus on first, before adding any details, is the essence of the pose. Generally this is best captured by limiting yourself to only a few minutes for the initial sketch. After you have the initial sketch established, you can layer on details ~ but go for the big picture first, and worry about the details later down the line.

Hope this helps. Great to see you here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks Rebecca, I think I'm gonna practise some of the stuff you pointed out first for a bit and then look at the Bouguereau again, ie tomorrow, well actually today, but later.

Lots of amazing stuff in the thread, there isn't a single picture that doesn't impress me.

redehlert
01-25-2006, 04:31 AM
Yeah, Dave. You're goin' down. :scream: :scream: :scream: :twisted:

Rebecca's 'no curves' picture of Dave::wise:

Dave --> ___________________________________ ...looks like a flat line to me! :scream:

hahahaa....i'm mr. smary pants - smary? is that like a straight line in nature - just not so? ; :applause:
too much fun here. too much fun - and too much talent!!

cheers!
d

v_z
01-25-2006, 05:00 AM
So I took another look at the painting and the right handside background caught my eye. I couldn't resist drawing that. Here's the result:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/v_z/dante-background-right.gif

I am kicking myself for doing all of this on pages of A4, especially as i was working in landscape, so I ran out of space for the last to entwined people :sad:, but hey this way i can do those two seperate, together with the shadowy figure next too them :D. Something to do for tomorrow .

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 05:14 AM
v_z,

Looking pretty good! Were you able to take a look at those articles on Gesture? They're really good. :) Sorry if you've mentioned this already, but my brain is a little fuzzy as I've just woken up. :D

Originally posted by dead david walking: hahahaa....i'm mr. smary pants - smary? is that like a straight line in nature - just not so? ; :applause:
too much fun here. too much fun - and too much talent!!
Actually, I meant to write, Mr. Smeary Pants. :wise: :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak *slightly vindicated yet feeling peevish* :scream:

v_z
01-25-2006, 05:53 AM
v_z,

Looking pretty good! Were you able to take a look at those articles on Gesture? They're really good. :) Sorry if you've mentioned this already, but my brain is a little fuzzy as I've just woken up. :D


Yeah I did, but sadly I haven't had the time to go out and do the excersises. Actually I have, but its not quite the right time for it atm, as it was around 3am when I looked at the thread again. Not even to speak about the gruesome -20 °C here in Germany.

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 05:58 AM
v_z,

Argh! Sounds like you guys are having a brutal winter. It's cold here, but still not frigid, thank goodness...

I hope you don't think the exercises entail going outside? :) Hehe...I wouldn't make anyone leave their computer...:wise: :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

v_z
01-25-2006, 06:05 AM
No, its not that I don't want to leave my computer ^_^, although that would entail removing my umbilical cord, its more that I don't have anything to draw really, I really want to try doing the action drawing excersises, but there is no action, and I can't use my TV atm. My mum fell asleep on the couch in front of it and i don't want to wake her up :scream:.

But yeah its really, really cold here, but at least I don't live further south where it's at a decent -34°C :D.

I guess I'll learn how to paint with a mouse in the meantime.

Vidar3d
01-25-2006, 06:08 AM
Glen - Very cool underpainting effects. Looking very ominous right now. I like the suggestion of the shadowy forms, like those that I think I see move around my bedroom when the lights are off when I've just finished watching a particularly creepy movie.

Elsie - Ridiculous amount of progress in so short a time. Looking very good. :thumbsup:



Sorry for the late start on this one. My third shift artist quit on me this week so I have been (somehow) even busier. Anyone want to move to Portland?

Anyway this exercise is amazingly humbling and has dashed to bits any amount of confidence I was gaining :) Took me forever to come up with gestures that even resembled the poses of the main figures. Here is my meager first stages (drawn to the sounds of the Gattaca Soundtrack)

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/12a.jpg

daWinky
01-25-2006, 06:08 AM
Good morning everyone!

So interesting to see all the different approaches, great work everyone!:thumbsup:

Elsie, Ericyeo and Marco J: I'm envy to see your stunning work with colors!
gorgnut: Wow, you're working fast!

Rebecca: Morning! Thank's for your praise, but you will soon see how untrained I am actually:shrug: ! But I'm busy like a bee and it's fun!

Lolo, Gunilla and Stéphane:love:: thank's for the encouragement, so good to see you around here, even in a "minimum spam area"!

So here is my little update


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Dante_wip2.jpg

-sabrina

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by Vidar3d: Sorry for the late start on this one. My third shift artist quit on me this week so I have been (somehow) even busier. Anyone want to move to Portland?
Sorry to hear! You might want to post something in the Employment Forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=27) if you are really looking to hire an artist.

Anyway this exercise is amazingly humbling and has dashed to bits any amount of confidence I was gaining :) Took me forever to come up with gestures that even resembled the poses of the main figures. Here is my meager first stages (drawn to the sounds of the Gattaca Soundtrack)
Hey, I think you're doing a great job! Also, bear in mind that pitting oneself against the best out there will raise the bar considerably for anyone ~ and you'll be surprised how far you can actually go when your expectations are higher. :)

Originally posted by Sabie: Rebecca: Morning! Thank's for your praise, but you will soon see how untrained I am actually:shrug: ! But I'm busy like a bee and it's fun!
Lolo, Gunilla and Stéphane:love:: thank's for the encouragement, so good to see you around here, even in a "minimum spam area"!

So here is my little update
Morning Sabie! :) I think you've got a fantastic start here! I think you'll find that a little practice will go a long way around here...in a thread such as this, there are lots of great examples from everyone, and it only speeds everyones' learning. :) And I agree, it's great to have a lot of fun swedish and french nuts about to keep us laughing and on our toes! :scream: :love:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
01-25-2006, 07:05 AM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-02.jpg

A little update. I worked on the background yesterday and started coloring some of the figures today. I wish I had more time to work on it but between long hours at work and and trying to get over the flu, Im pretty much worn out in the evenings. Id like to work on it some more during the week but probably wont be able to make another update until Saturday.

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 07:08 AM
Wow, Mecha, your update is really inspiring! :thumbsup:

I'm sorry to hear you've caught the flu, and hope you are feeling well soon. :) Bear in mind that this Workshop will last at least 3 weeks, and possibly 4, so you should have time (hopefully) to finish the lovely piece you've started here. :)

Really liking the warmth of the tones and the textures! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
01-25-2006, 07:38 AM
Rebecca - Thanks! I know I'll definitely have time to finish, I just wish I had more time to paint in general... drawing and painting are pretty much all I think about at work lately :)

Im really loving all the participation in this thread, its really inspiring. Your piece as well as Elsie's are the ones that really caught my eye so far but I know everyone is working at their own pace so I cant wait to see how everyone elses pieces evolve moving forward.

BTW, I am officially cracked out on this forum. Thanks to you and everyone here I have become art junkie once again. It got so bad today, I spent an hour during my lunch break sprawled out on the floor at a local bookstore and ended up buying a Klimt book I didnt have. Damn it. I wish I didnt have to sleep. :p

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Mecha: Thanks! I know I'll definitely have time to finish, I just wish I had more time to paint in general... drawing and painting are pretty much all I think about at work lately
I so know! :scream: Unfortunately, by the time I get home, I'm pooped...:blush:

Im really loving all the participation in this thread, its really inspiring. Your piece as well as Elsie's are the ones that really caught my eye so far but I know everyone is working at their own pace so I cant wait to see how everyone elses pieces evolve moving forward.
Thanks, but I think everyone is going to do some great work here ~ wish I could spend more time on my piece! :wavey:

BTW, I am officially cracked out on this forum. Thanks to you and everyone here I have become art junkie once again. It got so bad today, I spent an hour during my lunch break sprawled out on the floor at a local bookstore and ended up buying a Klimt book I didnt have. Damn it. I wish I didnt have to sleep.
Addicted?? Hmm, yeah, what's that like? :scream: :scream: I agree, participating in this forum for me has been tremendously inspiring and motivating...great to see all the enthusiasm over all the OFDWs, and this one in particular! :thumbsup: That's great that you bought a Klimt book...of course, I've always loved his work, too. :)

A really quick update from me...lots of things are wiggy, but I am not ashamed :wise: :scream:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_05.jpg

SaraD
01-25-2006, 08:04 AM
At last - I´ve started :)
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/MasterCopies/Dante_Virgil_001.jpg

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 08:05 AM
Yay! Go SaraD! *trundles off to eat 3 am salad* :)

Final update, now to bed...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_06.jpg

Vidar3d
01-25-2006, 11:29 AM
[QUOTE= I spent an hour during my lunch break sprawled out on the floor at a local bookstore and ended up buying a Klimt book I didnt have. Damn it. I wish I didnt have to sleep. :p[/QUOTE]

LOL! You are totally geeked out on OFDWs! Sweet progress on the painting. I think the background looks right on! No updates till Friday? Too bad. But I guess that gives me a chance to catch up. :)

Zapan
01-25-2006, 11:30 AM
Yay !! , :)

@ Rebeccak : Beckie , Beckie , Beckie ... *Crowd* Beckie, Beckie .... :scream:

@ daWinky : great progress Sabrina ,
Give me a S , give me an A, give me a B , give me an I , give me an E .... :bounce:

@ Mecha Hate Chimp : Woowww , soo impressive :surprised

@ Elsie : My god !! :applause:
pss (post scriptum spam) : "Je vomit dans la mer, c'etait bleu! Ooh la la! Je sortir la poubelle!"... :scream:

@ SaraD : Yay, can't wait to see another beautiful painting of you :thumbsup:

@ and to all : Awesome work everybody , It's so great to see your different approaches of this work , so many different technics ... :applause:
Really interesting for me to follow all your works here , thx :wavey:

augustus
01-25-2006, 12:20 PM
Rebeccak & Mr. Mu-> Thanks :)

Update:

http://august.f2o.org/temp/Bouguereau02.jpg

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 12:27 PM
Zapan,

LOL! Go supportive spam! :scream: :D

augustus,

Wow, nice work! Really powerful looking figure...well~realized. :) This is sure to be an excellent piece. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-25-2006, 01:12 PM
Hi @all - Great work so far.
Rebecca - Thank you.

My next update:http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/295/2501200610xx.jpg
Ciao,
Ravena

SaraD
01-25-2006, 01:46 PM
Not much happening, but started to put some background figure in. Thought I try to build this one up from back to front. Maybe I´ll get a more combined feeling between background and object in that way....
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/MasterCopies/Dante_Virgil_002.JPG

ericyeo
01-25-2006, 03:38 PM
Great job everyone!!

Mecha: that's very well done!

Here is my updates. I think i should have done the background first.. nvm. see how it goes (I'm getting a little unsure)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/ericyeo/Bouguereau/Bouguereau3.jpg

aggie93
01-25-2006, 03:45 PM
Good morning Y'all,

Worked again last night on this. It is a gripping piece of art work. I hope we get to use PINOY MCGEE's suggested piece next (http://home.att.net/~hoo10/Bouguereau/lavague.jpg (http://home.att.net/~hoo10/Bouguereau/lavague.jpg))

First about thirty minutes into it last night:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06jan24a.jpg

Then when I turned out the lights:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06jan24b.jpg

Mu
01-25-2006, 05:42 PM
aggie93,

sorry to inform you that I'd die a painful death of agony if we stuck with Bouguerau for the next OFDW and would not do the following...:

http://www.dezinna.com/pan_nymphs.jpg

EDIT:

I see you went traditional with this, now. Awesome skills! I wish you had a scanner for that size of the paper...:applause:

redehlert
01-25-2006, 06:09 PM
Great updates everyone! I hope to be jammin' slowly on mine later on today.
Cheers!
D

ps. Rebecca - I've updated my title under my name, hope ya dig. :)

aggie93
01-25-2006, 07:25 PM
aggie93,

sorry to inform you that I'd die a painful death of agony if we stuck with Bouguerau for the next OFDW and would not do the following...:

http://www.dezinna.com/pan_nymphs.jpg

EDIT:

I see you went traditional with this, now. Awesome skills! I wish you had a scanner for that size of the paper...:applause:

Mr. Mu, That is another one I like. Here is one I am thinking of doing in oils for my wife : http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=23


Thanks for the cudos. I wished I had y'all's skills on using the computer. I tried again last night, until I got Flustered, to use ArtRage. I wondered if y'all use a tablet with a digital pen or a mouse? And by the way, my profession forces me to have a large format scanner, copier, plotter. The only problem is that it is monochrome.

fredlovebot
01-25-2006, 07:40 PM
God Rebecca! Thanks for making me an addict! :scream: Feels like every minute awake is related to painting nowdays ^^

Mecha Hate Chimp: Ahhh those characters are great! Can't wait to see what you can do with the two 'main' characters! :thumbsup:

SaraD: Yay, another Swede :) I think that background looks great along with the character, which reminds me of that I should have started from the back to front, not the other way around, haha.

Everyone is really doing great, not have I once seen so much good art in so short amount of time (wait, how long have we been going on? :curious::D Time just flys away when you have fun, right?)

Here's a small update, I just couldn't leave those terrible faces alone so I redid them.
Hope it looks better now.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/gorgnut/definingmore.png

aggie93
01-25-2006, 09:48 PM
Off topic, I know! Could someone follow this link and look at the banner. On the right side is two paintings of a man with a beard, who is the artist?

www.tsofa.com (http://www.tsofa.com/)

Thanks!

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 09:55 PM
Looking forward to seeing everyone's work! :D ~

aggie93, try pm'ing DoctorBone (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?userid=96109) (he has a personal anatomy thread here) as he runs the TSOFA forum. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
01-25-2006, 09:56 PM
God, I feel like I stumbled into the speedpainting thread! Anyone already busy signing?

another day another study(hands this time... they are all over the place):

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7787/thirdstudy2oj.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3561/fourthstudy7rw.jpg

aggie93 - you should send Doctor Bone (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=96109)a pm - he is a moderator at tsofa.com as far as I know...

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 10:01 PM
Actually, technically I'm a mod there as well, but not a very good one :D ~ Dr. B. was kind enough to add me on, but I've yet to find my cloning device! :scream: :blush:

SaraD
01-25-2006, 10:10 PM
Another night in front of the computer :surprised And here´s the result. The carachters "pop out" from the bg I know, but I´ll blend them in when I´m finished with them... Some how.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/MasterCopies/Dante_Virgil_003.JPG

Mr Mu - can I borrow your hands? I hate drawing them, and as you said - they´re all over the place...

Mu
01-25-2006, 10:20 PM
Actually, technically I'm a mod there as well,

I know, but I did not want to remind you of the fact, as your time is valuable and, besides, your anatomy wouldn't stand another forum mod job... so forget it was mentioned...

*starts to frantically jump around rebecca*
*shakes herbs in her face*

forget!forget!

SaraD

You are kidding right? I have yet to produce something of your quality. But you're right - those hands can be intimidating... can't lend you a hand in this, though(harhar)... so, erm, I have some thirty or fourty hand puns in store, if anyone's interested I might hand them in... could come in handy, I guess

Ahhhrgh, gotta stop!
*sigh*

that's hand down embarassing...

SaraD
01-25-2006, 10:28 PM
Rebeccak - a bit confused over the editing in my post :surprised

Mu
01-25-2006, 10:33 PM
well, she put the words in you mouth, heh...?:D

I was wondering myself...

Rebeccak
01-25-2006, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by redehlert: Mister Smeary Pants
:scream: a star is born! :scream:

Heh ~ sorry SaraD! Didn't mean to do that...:D...just goes to show that I'm getting early onset Alzheimer's...:scream:

Ravena
01-25-2006, 10:37 PM
Show your hands please. :D
Mr. Mu
My laymaneye says, it believes you should draw the fingers a littlelittlelittle more thickly. But otherwise they are nearly perfect. :) As fair reconciliation I show also my sketch-hand, not beautiful and very rough:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2651/hand11mu.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/447/hand25bs.jpg
I make also three crosses if I finished the hands. (Uff)

Ciao,
Ravena

Mu
01-25-2006, 10:58 PM
My laymaneye says, it believes you should draw the fingers a littlelittlelittle more thickly.

Yea... and I would be glad to have your laymaneye! No reconciliation needed, btw, but the grip looks frighteningly tight! Great job!

aggie93
01-25-2006, 11:05 PM
You guys make it sound like you have problems drawing hands. I see nothing wrong with them from those picts. I have problems with hands as well. Last night I tried to get them the right size. Usually when I try to get detailed I resort to my engineer drafting mode and draw skillfully but small. It is only when I am trough and step back I see my mistake. Erase and back to holding the pencil at the end.

Great work guys. Oh and by the way, I know Dr. Bone. I have attend one of his figure workshops. Great guy and full of knowledge. The question I asked was posed on me in another forum. I gave up!

Aggie93

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 02:20 AM
Lots of beautiful work going on here...:)...can't comment on each of the works posted today ~ I've got to get some crazy (non~computer related!) :scream: stuff done tonight, and I am going to try hard to prevent myself from completely succumbing to the temptation of spending all my time on my favorite forum :D ~ I swear, I need addiction counseling! :scream:

You guys are awesome and are producing some lovely work ~ great to see everybody's contributions and enthusiasm! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

daWinky
01-26-2006, 05:03 AM
Good morning!

Lots of beautiful work going on here...:)...
I can only assent to this statement - some stunning updates here!:thumbsup:
Stéphane: Lol, you're a perfect cheerleader! Thank's, I really need this extra motivation (and could need that shoulder massage now:D )...

I'm trying to get some details in here, only small progress:shrug: , still no hands and feet...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Dante_wip4.jpg

-sabrina

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Sabie: only small progress:shrug:
:scream: We have a trojan horse! :scream: Beautiful work, Sabie! :bounce:'Small' update, ha! This is coming along beautifully! Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

daWinky
01-26-2006, 05:47 AM
Morning Becca!

Not hanging like a bat from the ceiling tonight:scream: ? ( sorry, can't get this picture out of my head)?
Trojan Horse? me? Naaa, just a guest and visitor here with best intentions;) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)...
Glad that you like the update, but it's actually a small progress compared to the time I put in this pic (neglecting all other duties:D )...it's not coming easy.


-sabrina

Lemog
01-26-2006, 05:52 AM
Morning Sabie...

when I see your work, I don't understand why you doesn't participate in 2d section before... you can be proud about your skills you know... the picture comes to be really great... I'm amazed, you can continue like that dear little Pencil's Loreleï :bowdown:

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Sabie:
Morning Becca!

Not hanging like a bat from the ceiling tonight? ( sorry, can't get this picture out of my head)?
Trojan Horse? me? Naaa, just a guest and visitor here with best intentions;) (http://misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)...
Glad that you like the update, but it's actually a small progress compared to the time I put in this pic (neglecting all other duties)...it's not coming easy.
Morning, Sabie! :scream: hahahaha!!! No, no upside down hanging tonight...just procrastinating from moving my furniture around...:D...what a pain! I know what you mean about the neglecting of all other duties...:D...but certainly all of your efforts are worth it! You're doing an excellent job...much better than me! :scream: Great stuff!! :bounce:

Originally posted by Lolo: when I see your work, I don't understand why you doesn't participate in 2d section before... you can be proud about your skills you know... the picture comes to be really great... I'm amazed, you can continue like that dear little Pencil's Loreleï :bowdown:
I know! I think we need more 3D defectors, even if only temporarily, to come here! :wise: :bounce:

*I hope it's not temporarily*

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-26-2006, 09:59 AM
Some kind of progress... Still going from background to object. But I realise that I´m gonna be soooo tired of this one, when I finally comes to the action in the foreground... Hm. What to do...
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/MasterCopies/Dante_Virgil_004.JPG

mark-jenkins
01-26-2006, 11:10 AM
SaraD, Dawinky, Ravena, ericyeo, Vidar3d, Elsie, These are all coming on really well

Gorgnut, Good start but the anatomy is slightly off. I think the left hand figures thighs are a bit wide and there should be more definition between the thigh and buttock, also the length of his legs from knee to ankle is a bit short. Hope this helps.

Mr Mu, Your studies are looking good.

Mecha, Excellent work!

Sorry if I have missed anybody but I am sneaking a quick post at work(as usuall).

I don't want to sound stupid but can anyone tell me the correct pronunciation of "Bouguereau". (Elsie, maybe with your expertise in French, you could help me! ha ha :) )

Anyway, here is another update from me. It doesn't look much of an update, I know but I have fixed a few anatomical issues that I spotted and started the background, also tightened areas up a little. I haven't used a grid because I feel this method limits my progress, but that is just me. I like to make things difficuilt for my self.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW12-2.jpg

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 01:04 PM
Great to see the updates! :thumbsup:

SaraD,

Why do you think you will be bored with the foreground figures? :) Just curious.

MarcoJ,

Good to see this so far...it will be fun to see where everyone is at in 3 weeks. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-26-2006, 01:14 PM
The time-factor Rebeccak, the time-factor... I´m usually quite fast with the figures, and that suits me because after a while I can´t stand to look at the painting anymore... And in this case that amount of time is consumed on "just" painting the background :banghead: :scream: :argh: *LOL*

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 01:20 PM
Ha! I know what you mean...:D...but imagine how beautiful this would look if you finished it...*tries to entice SaraD into finishing*...:scream:

Elsie
01-26-2006, 03:26 PM
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9947/ver085xf.jpg

A small update :) Am sick of laying down the sketchy base colours for the main characters, so am going to start on the background and come back to them later!

Everyone who has encouraged me so far on this thread and the CGS thread - Martin, Becca, Britta, Queenie, Lemog, Tascha, Paperclip, Zapan, Mr Mu, Redehlert, Vidar3d, daWinky, Mecha and MarcoJ - thank you guys all so much! Redehlert, I've tried to alter the muscle a little, but I wasn't sure if it is visible enough? What does everyone think?

Loving all the work here, so much talent, too many wonderful pieces to name :) Good going people :D

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 03:30 PM
Wow, Elsie, :)

This piece is looking nothing short of fantastic! :bounce: Amazing work...I love how volumetric the figures feel, as well as their texture ~ really excellent work...can't wait to see this finished! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-26-2006, 04:00 PM
Morning Everybody

Someone said in this forum, "my second family".

Rebecca, I have been moving furniture for the last hour and half in the office. It is not fun. I need to be posting on the forums...huh...working, I mean!

You know after seeing everyone's progress, I feel ashamed to post mine. Oh well, here it goes.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06jan25a.jpg
close up (lit)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/05jan25b.jpg

I worked this in between helping create a poster for my seven year old boy. I decided to put it up and start on my wife's valentine gift. It will be an oil of this one. http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=23 Once I start oiling it, tonight, I will post my WIPs.

Aggie93

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 04:06 PM
aggie93,

Hey, there's nothing to be ashamed of...looks like you're making great progress! That other Bouguereau piece is certainly beautiful, isn't it? A really good choice for Valentine's :thumbsup: ~ good to see your update ~ looking forward to more! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-26-2006, 04:31 PM
YEEAAHHH I finaly started sketching today!
I'll post mine soon

reflectedfight
01-26-2006, 05:36 PM
Wow, talk about a baptism of fire - copying a Bougereau - rebeccas a hard taskmaster! heh.


I should really be doing this.... heh.




cool work all.

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Gavin: Wow, talk about a baptism of fire - copying a Bougereau - rebeccas a hard taskmaster! heh.

I should really be doing this.... heh.

cool work all.
Gavin, join us! I find this particular painting to be just a bit Rubenesque :D ~ I know you like Rubens, so why not join in on the fun? :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fredlovebot
01-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Marco J: Thanks for the input! I tweaked the parts you mentioned along with some other tweaks. I hope you like the improvements! :) Your piece is coming together beautiful!

Elsie: I love your work! The colors are awesome!

Feels like im poking away at details when I should make other improvments, I hope you can see the diffrences! :scream:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/gorgnut/fixing2.png

seansea
01-26-2006, 08:41 PM
Hi:
I haven't posted anything here yet put I'm planning to. How do I make sure the size is appropriate? Ist that something I do when I scan in the artwork?

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 08:48 PM
seansea,

Welcome aboard! :) Looking forward to seeing your work.

Regarding size: you can scan your work at different resolutions ~ you should be able to set it to whatever dpi setting you want (for print resolution, that would be 300 dpi, resulting in a really large file). Since you will not be printing your work, however, but only displaying it on a monitor, your best bet is to go with 72 dpi.

I like for people to keep their posts here to 800 pixels wide (or less) x proportional pixel height.

So, ultimately what you post here should be no more than 800 pixels wide x proportional pixel height at 72 dpi.

Bear in mind that for work which you do digitally, you will want to work at 300 dpi so that you will be able to print it.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 08:50 PM
gorgnut,

Great progress! Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

zng-Y,

Looking forward to it! ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 09:54 PM
Ok, just to prove that I haven't been totally slacking...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_07.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_07A.jpg

I was fortunate enough to spend the day at home today due to a scheduled furniture delivery...wish furniture could get delivered everyday! :scream: :D

Still a long way to go, but at least made some progress. :)

Zapan
01-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Hi there, another cheerful spam here :)

@ daWinky , ouch i've almost missed that update ! Great progress Sabie ; nice to see those details taking shape :) ... ... faces are already beautiful

@ Elsie : dang :surprised this is insane ... your color work is fantastic :thumbsup: humble respect , crazy british girl with weird french sentences :D

@ Rebecca : all about contrast and pose , I looooove it ! ... Powerfull Beckie

Cheers everyone , :)

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Le Scar Go, aka French nut snail guy: Hi there, another cheerful spam here :)
Nice to see you here as always Steph! :wavey:But be careful...we will try to convert you! :scream:
Thanks for the nice comments! :)

Cheers,

~'Beckie' :scream:

SpiritDreamer
01-26-2006, 11:17 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Some really beautiful and great painting and drawing going on with this picture
by everyone involved, I think. :thumbsup:

Another small update from me
Started working on chain of small figures this morning
Got a couple of them done
Then decided to do a color and light experiment
to make sure I would be able to push them back into shadows of background
the way they appear in original
Will add a few more details to them if needed at end stage of painting.
Or delete details if need be
Still prodding the forms in and out of darkness as I go along
Trying to keep a unified oneness to painting as I progress with it
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_15_close.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_17.jpg

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 01:34 AM
Glenn,

I like how you're developing this! :thumbsup:

Small update from me:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_08A.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_08.jpg

Many tweaks to go...:D

Cheers,

~Rk

seth1
01-27-2006, 04:22 AM
My wip so far! Rebecca said i should join in! So gladly here i am! woot. Keep going guys... Black and white first then color...
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7954/danteetvirgileauenferswip5vb.jpg

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 04:25 AM
Hey seth1! Great to see you here! :thumbsup: Glad you took me up on my offer...:)...I think you've got a really nice start here ~ are you using Painter? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 05:31 AM
Another small update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_09.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_09A.jpg

I'm working with the Reference Image and the painting rotated 90 degrees counter~clockwise, which helps, particularly in areas like the face.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
01-27-2006, 05:36 AM
Morning Beckie... totally speechless... good and strong interpretation... in this case, your style take all its sense :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 05:38 AM
Morning, Lolo, :wavey:

Thanks very much! Thanks for your kind words...very much appreciated. :)

Cheers, :)

~"Beckie"

daWinky
01-27-2006, 05:44 AM
Good Morning!

I'm again amazed to see all the great updates here!:)

Laurent: Too much praise, thank you! Why not participating in 2d earlier?...:shrug: actually it's my first serious attempt of digital painting. I've just got the Wacom last month - mainly for texture painting - so I had only time for some doodling and painting tests...Let's see how far I come with this copy. But it's fun and a kind of relaxing - so if there's no time consuming 3d project, why not try some 2d work...
Stéphane: Thank's again...and beware of Becca - she wants to push you to some 2d work...and she's so good in advertising:D !
Becca: You've made good use of the 'waiting-for-furniture'time. Very powerful and dynamic update:thumbsup: ! Already familiar with your new desk? Good to know that you have more comfort now while being online all around the clock...Hope you have a really good chair too:) ...

I still have problems with hands and feets and getting tired of adding details I began with some background work...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Dante_wip5.jpg
-sabrina

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Sabie: ...and beware of Becca - she wants to push you to some 2d work...and she's so good in advertising!
:scream: Morning Sabie, :wavey:lol, me? Advertise? :shrug: :D

Becca: You've made good use of the 'waiting-for-furniture'time. Very powerful and dynamic update! Already familiar with your new desk? Good to know that you have more comfort now while being online all around the clock...Hope you have a really good chair too...
:D Thank you! Unfortunately I still have to wait til next week til the furniture assemblers come...this is the joy of ordering furniture online. :) Right now I have some attractive boxes strewn all about my living room...:scream:

I still have problems with hands and feets and getting tired of adding details I began with some background work...
Really nice update! You really have a good natural sense of proportion and of the figure in general. :thumbsup: It occurs to me that I don't know much about your background and training...do you mind telling us a bit about yourself? :)

Cheers! :)

Lemog
01-27-2006, 06:08 AM
Why not participating in 2d earlier?...:shrug:
Morning Sabie...
hahahaha Why not ?

In first, my OFDW11 is not already finish...
In second, I must work seriously on my new 3d project...
In third... I started it few days ago... but no time (for the moment) to continue, even if I really like the WB's art :shrug:
The only thing I can do now... it's to post the beginning :scream:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/lemog/ofdw12_wip_01.jpg

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Lolo: hahahaha Why not ?

In first, my OFDW11 is not already finish...
In second, I must work seriously on my new 3d project...
In third... I started it few days ago... but no time (for the moment) to continue, even if I really like the WB's art :shrug:
The only thing I can do now... it's to post the beginning :scream:
We got him, Sabie! :bounce: :scream:

Nice to see you participating here also, Lolo...:D...nothing like a little peer pressure from the spam team? :bounce:Nice start! *now we have to convince him to finish...*

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak aka "Beckie"

Lemog
01-27-2006, 06:15 AM
*now we have to convince him to finish...*
You're hard with me... but I love that :scream: hahahahaha :thumbsup: :D

Vidar3d
01-27-2006, 06:21 AM
Seth - welcome to the club. Nice solid start. Now you get to start the fun part :)

Glen - Great job on blocking in those background figures. I think I am going to follow suit and take a break from the foreground anatomy and work up some of subtle background elements for a bit myself.

Becca- Very ridiculous with the progress. Your characters almost seem to look like characters on dancers lit under stage lights. Very cool. I know its just underpainting but the silhouette of the demon/devil watching the struggle creates a very haunting image.

Lemlog- There is no excuse in not having a little 30 half assed/half finished projects going on at one. Snap to it!

My update - Still working in black and white hoping to finish the drawing over the weekend. Sleep well everyone. Except for the Swedes...it's probably noon for them...So no sleeping.

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/12b.jpg

Lemog
01-27-2006, 06:35 AM
Lemog- There is no excuse in not having a little 30 half assed/half finished projects going on at one. Snap to it!
Hahahaha... the motivation's work continue as I can see :D hahahahaha

Thanks :thumbsup:

daWinky
01-27-2006, 06:38 AM
Morning Becca!

We got him, Sabie! :bounce:
:D Yeah! Give me five!:bounce:
Unfortunately I still have to wait til next week til the furniture assemblers come...this is the joy of ordering furniture online. :) Right now I have some attractive boxes strewn all about my living room...:scream:
Sad too hear this:sad: ...but who really needs a comfortable living room ...if working all the day:scream: !
It occurs to me that I don't know much about your background and training...do you mind telling us a bit about yourself?
Of course...As I've already told in Gunie's thread I've no artistic background or education:shrug: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)...I've studied physics when I've finished school...boring jobs and family engagements finally forced me to look for a change and I began to study informatics and there I get in touch with 3d ...and was so hooked that I stopped anything else:cool: and began to learn by myself...with books, online contents and so on. This was about 3 years ago... And here I am, trying to learn more whenever I find some time...

Lolo: Haha, sometimes you're really nut, can't believe it, even more work...but it's so good to see you here! Great start:thumbsup:


-sabrina

MechaHateChimp
01-27-2006, 07:13 AM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-012_sketch-03.jpg



Ive been keeping up with everyone's posts and the work is coming along Excellent! Great job everyone :applause:

I tried to squeeze in a quick update tonight. Someone asked me why my original sketch looked like the two guys up front where making out.. . I didnt really see it until just now though... I guess they do look a little love lorn :curious: :D. Ive been busy all week but I'll have all weekend to work on it. More later! -J

seth1
01-27-2006, 08:22 AM
Rebecca, Thanks miss! Nope im using photoshop.. Keep on updating your image it's looking great!

Update... I like to work on every thing at once to see how it all comes togeater...
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2282/danteetvirgileauenferswip27xu.jpg

makaron
01-27-2006, 08:28 AM
Hi everybody

and just wanna do as Zapan does... cheer all you boyz and girlz on... its a pleasure to see all of you do this work, using those diffrent styles and technics to reach the same goal... :applause:

seth1
01-27-2006, 10:10 AM
I think I will keep atter for another 4 hours...
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2336/danteetvirgileauenferswip31zt.jpg

Zapan
01-27-2006, 10:15 AM
Yay !! :D

@ daWinky : Yeah Sabie , believe me I would like this "not artistic background" to paint like this !!
:applause: ... and great start for the background ... go Sabie , go :buttrock:

@ Lemog : I've spotted a french nut here :D ... more work in your hands , you're definitely crazy :applause: ... go Lolo, go :buttrock:

@ Rebecca : ouh, it was a productive evening , totally rocks
go, Beckie go :buttrock:

@ Everybody : awesome work everyone , go people , go :buttrock:

chearleader Zapan , :bounce:

ps: Beckie is trying to convert me ? Good luck ....
maybe with a Caravagio master copy or Bernini why not ... hey what am I saying ?

beelow
01-27-2006, 10:37 AM
Ok I will do this one, hehe!:thumbsup:

Mu
01-27-2006, 10:53 AM
hey beelow, that's cool! Looking forward to your work in here.


A little late, a little OT, but: congratulations on your fabulous Spectacular Challenge piece, btw!

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Lolo: You're hard with me... but I love that hahahahaha
That's what we're here for! :scream:

Vidar3d, thanks for the compliments! And for making fun of Lemog...that has made my day I think! (Just kidding, Lolo!) :scream: Great update! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Sabie: Of course...As I've already told in Gunie's thread I've no artistic background or education...I've studied physics when I've finished school...boring jobs and family engagements finally forced me to look for a change and I began to study informatics and there I get in touch with 3d ...and was so hooked that I stopped anything else and began to learn by myself...with books, online contents and so on. This was about 3 years ago... And here I am, trying to learn more whenever I find some time...
Wow, no artistic education...that's amazing!!! Beautiful work, Sabie, imagine what you could do with even more practice...this is your 'starting point'...we will definitely have to convert you! :scream:

Mecha,

Lovin' it! :)

seth1,

Beautiful update! :thumbsup:

makaron,

Join us sweetie! :bounce:(Or should I say, "Swedie"?) :scream:

Steph,

Thank you! I saw that about Caravaggio! *Lines up Caravaggio* Erm, btw, no reason...what's your favorite painting by him? *whistles*

beelow,

Join in! :bounce:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-27-2006, 12:42 PM
THANKS....Rebecca....:)
Really liking this guys composition the more I study it....very simple, and effective...
A spiral, starting at the top right corner of painting...with devils wing tip, and going down
to finally end up in the swirl of the two big figures in the forground...just noticed yesterday
that the line formed from the front of Virgils robe, leads directly into faces of big figures,
or the center of the spiral...exit spiral by way way of hand of Dante pointing up to Virgils
face....small figures on right are just the outter edge of spiral or swirl, along with figure at
the feet of big figures...spiral even extends to outter edge of rocks, at bottom of painting.
Not sure, but I THINK the exit to or from painting is the wing tip behind Virgils head.
There is also an ...X...formed by big figures ....X...is for action...another smaller...X...
is formed by devils body and wings...also to creat action...Lines formed by ...X'S...
creat the strong diagonals, adding to the action....ect. ect. ect. ...
Nothing created by chance in ths MASTER WORK OF ART...:)
Just thought I would mention my thoughts on this composition...they may not be totaly
corect, but that's the way i'm seeing it at the moment.....didn't get into the composition
of the lighting yet....LOL!!...That's a whole nother story in itself...LOL!! :bounce:
By the way...Really like the way you're handling these figures...DRAMATIC ONENESS..:thumbsup:


Rett....THANKS...:) .:wavey:
You're doing a GREAT JOB on this so far...be carefull on background...very few lines there,
mostly values, or lights and darks butting up against each other, or into each other.
Think of ..DA VINCI'S METHOD....Stains on the wall kind of thing...:)

Well I can't sit here typeing all morning, with my one finger , I have some more, or I should
say a lot more painting to do on this one LOL!!:)

Just want to say that everyone's work on this painting looks .. FANTASTIC..so far...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aggie93
01-27-2006, 02:58 PM
Here is an update to my WIP:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/617b0e75.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/617b0e75.jpg

Everyone is frantically working on this. We should really think about letting the public see our work. I have invited a few of my friends to this link but I think we should send them out on tour around the world for everyone to see how good everyone is.

By the way, I started my Bouguereau's Le Ravissement de Psyche painting for my wife. Here is the start on it:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/a1abd033.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/a1abd033.jpg

See y'all later.

OK (*&^, why can't I get the pictures to show up in this thread like y'alls? It just gives you links. I followed the directions.

Zapan
01-27-2006, 03:24 PM
Morning Beckie ! :)

...what's your favorite painting by him?
Well my favorite must be "The calling of Saint Matthew" yep ... or "the Cardsharps" ... Probably because I did advanced studies of those at school years ago... But unfortunately , they're not really anatomy related ... But I'm a huge fan of all his art , so if one day there's an OFDW opening with him , maybe I could be tempted to show my awfull painting skills ... Hey what am I saying... and Caravaggio is sleeping quietly in his grave :D

cheers everyone :thumbsup: ,

aggie93
01-27-2006, 03:41 PM
Someone asked me why my original sketch looked like the two guys up front where making out.. . I didnt really see it until just now though... I guess they do look a little love lorn :curious: :D. Ive been busy all week but I'll have all weekend to work on it. More later! -J

When I was starting my rough sketch, I noticed that. Now that I have the detail in, it looks like he is just geting a hicky... bad one! :scream:

Mu
01-27-2006, 04:06 PM
aggie93,

you paste that link in your post in the input that pops up when you press the Image Icon (mountain/sun) - and voilà: inline image...

nice progress, by the way!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/617b0e75.jpg

aggie93
01-27-2006, 04:14 PM
aggie93,

you paste that link in your post in the input that pops up when you press the Image Icon (mountain/sun) - and voilà: inline image...

nice progress, by the way!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/617b0e75.jpg

Thanks Mr. Mu! I hope to finish the two men then start the two watchers this weekend.

What part of Germany are you from?

redehlert
01-27-2006, 05:14 PM
whoa...mecha! lookin' great!!
seth - keep bangin' on it, like the progress i'm seein' mate!
cheers!
d

Mu
01-27-2006, 05:31 PM
aggie93 - I am from Dortmund, far western part of Germany, in the Ruhrgebiet, one of the largest congested areas in europe.

Ever been to Germany?

aggie93
01-27-2006, 08:59 PM
Mr. Mu - No I haven't, like to though. My mom's family originated from the southwestern part of Germany. I do not know where Dortmund is. I went to visit friends in Oslo last summer. I had a blast.

SpiritDreamer
01-27-2006, 10:59 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Today's update
Small figures I did yesterday were too small
So this morning I redid them - made bigger
Started adding a couple more in the human-puzzle-chain
This afternoon started big foreground figures and then played with color and light
to make sure background stays in back.
That's it for today. :)
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_21.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_22.jpg

seth1
01-27-2006, 11:35 PM
redehlert: Thanks man! Keep going on yours...
Rebeccak: Thanks you! It tuff to keep going becuase my hand cramps up! Ive been working on it for all ready 9 hours...


Another update! Ummm! Never had so much pain in my hand haha! Oh I am allso working at 2966X 3162 So there will be nice juicy details after...
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6701/danteetvirgileauenferswip51xx.jpg

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 11:48 PM
Hey, great stuff everyone!

Haven't been able to check in all day...TGIF! :)

aggie93,

I agree, nice update! :thumbsup:

Glenn,

Really interesting approach...definitely cool to watch this develop. :)

Originally posted by Steph: Well my favorite must be "The calling of Saint Matthew" yep ... or "the Cardsharps" ... Probably because I did advanced studies of those at school years ago... But unfortunately , they're not really anatomy related ... But I'm a huge fan of all his art , so if one day there's an OFDW opening with him , maybe I could be tempted to show my awfull painting skills ... Hey what am I saying... and Caravaggio is sleeping quietly in his grave :D
Hmm...*whistles innocently* :D ~ it would be awesome if you joined us, Scar~Go ~ you know, you can even do 3D for the OFDWs ~ Stahlberg did in the first one. :thumbsup: You know you want to join us...:scream: :bounce:

seth1,

Great update! Really looking good there...don't kill yourself over it, though ~ if your hand starts to hurt, give it a rest! Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is something you definitely want to avoid at all costs. Bear in mind that this Workshop has 2~3 more weeks to go!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

depleteD
01-28-2006, 02:19 AM
wow that is such a cool ass painting
who is this guy?
What u guys think hurts more? A knee to the spine or teeth in the throat?

Vidar3d
01-28-2006, 02:33 AM
Hey cool Glen. They almost look chrome.

SaraD
01-28-2006, 12:57 PM
Slowly moving towards the foreground... Yay - soon! :bounce:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/MasterCopies/Dante_Virgil_005.JPG

I wonder how long it took mr Bouguereau to paint the original. And at was size the original painting is. I find my size, 3500x2700 approx, is way to small for the details in the background. It´s enough for the main characters I think, but not for the ones in the back...

mark-jenkins
01-28-2006, 01:38 PM
Looking good Sara, I can't wait to see the foreground figures. Here is another update from me.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW12-3.jpg

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 02:30 PM
SaraD,

Nice progress! :) With respect to the figures in the back, I wonder if you could try selecting just those figures, copying them, and creating a new document where you would paste them and enlarge the resolution to a decent size that would be paintable. Then you can work at that larger resolution until it was time to paste them / rescale them to the original size. Of course you would have to do some tweaking to get this to look right, but I'm sure it would be fairly simple to do. What do you think? :)

Marco J,

Beautiful work! :thumbsup: Really enjoying watching this come together...looking forward to seeing your next update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 04:37 PM
A bit of work on the face today...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_10.jpg

This is one of those paintings which could take forever to copy accurately...:argh: :D


Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

jFeige
01-28-2006, 05:08 PM
Wow, so much great work here. :drool:

It's a really tough painting for a beginner like me, but i definately hope to be able to finish this one. :)

http://www.blank-grafix.de/sketches37.jpg

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 05:27 PM
jFeige,

You're doing a great job so far! It's always harder to work Traditionally, but I would encourage you to stick to it! :wip:

Personal Anatomy Threads I think you might quite enjoy are (in no particular order):

Anatomy Thread of El Chief (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297560)
Anatomy Thread of raptor|3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=289555)
Anatomy Thread of Slux (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480)
Anatomy Thread of Corvax (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2820354#post2820354)
Anatomy Thread of Redehlert (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297665)
Anatomy Thread of default.rol (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297572)
Anatomy Thread of ThomasPhoenix (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=296477)

These artists are all working Traditionally, and have some great and inspiring examples of their work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

MeliHitchcock
01-28-2006, 06:27 PM
Ok, I came into this a bit late in the game, but I'm going to try and work on this as best I can.

WOW super difficult pose... darn those masters for making such complicated imagery! :D
Anyway, here's my contribution. It's only a sketch at this point, but I want to work on it today and see how far I get.

http://dragonsinmygarage.com/Open%20Figure%20Class/012/Figure_Sketch_sm.jpg

Time: 1 hour

This might be doubly difficult for me on many levels due to my using Painter and I hardly ever use that program, plus I'm not used to painting this many figures in one image. Most I've ever done is two. O.O

Pray for me... good gravy what have I allowed myself to get into? Where's my muse!? This is all her fault!

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 06:36 PM
MeliHitchcock,

Welcome aboard! :) No worries...we still have lots of time left in this Workshop...we just started it last Sunday, so it's been a week...but depending on where everyone is at in 2 more weeks, we'll see if people want to extend it another week for a total of 4 weeks. :)

Nice start! Really looking forward to your next update!

Do you want to tell us something about your training / background? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 07:02 PM
Another update...continuing to work on the face, tried to organize the lighting a bit better and tone down the bottom part of the image ~ am noticing that focusing my rendering efforts on the face means that I need not spend as much time on the body, as the faces are the focal points anyway, and draw the viewer's attention there...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_11.jpg

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

MeliHitchcock
01-28-2006, 07:28 PM
Thanks Rebeccak! :) Yay for more time! I thought I'd be coming into the tail end of this. I was interested in the last open sketch thread still lingering about on the first page, but I can wait for the next life drawing thread that crops up. =)

Love your new update too! This is really coming along nicely! :)

Bit about me: I've been drawing for a long while, and I say long while I mean since I was kid. My mom is an artist too so I kind of inheritated the ability to draw. :P I took small art classes here and there since my high school sucked in that department. I ended up going to Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design up in Denver (before the school was accredited and was this tiny little school) and graduated in 98 with my BFA in Illustration. Sadly though I never put my more creative skills to good use as ended up taking a job as a Technical Illustrator. For a while I wasn't sure what I wanted to get into with my Illustration Degree and I kind of liked doing the technical stuff. However my currect job doesn't call much for creative work, it's all black and white isometric line art (BOREING). I work for L-3 Communications but our division handles government contract work for Air Force Space Command. Basically we do HEMP (high-altitude electromagnetic pulse) hardening for various military facilities. I can't really detail -what- I draw because that's sensitive in nature, but suffice to say it's not spiffy things like guns or planes or anything. LOL

On occassion we get to do 3D modeling, which I had to take a (very cheap might I add) class on, but the class was kind of a joke. The sad thing is our company doesn't want to dish out proper training classes for our programs we use. Personally I don't even like the software we use (Strata Studio Pro) either. I wish we used 3D studio Max instead, but again, cost is an issue.

I did do a series of posters that I got permission to repost for my gallery page. Not the highest quality due to the time constraints and the number of posters involved but the clients loved them. You can go see em here if you're remotely interested:

http://www.deviantart.com/view/22405973/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22404867/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22404791/

Unfortuanately though, after I graduated from college I got bad burn out and stopped drawing things for myself for a long time. Up until the beginning of last year I just fiddled, never really doing anything serious. But I want to get back into it again, however my skills had slipped and fell a bit.

Finding this place is like a god send because of the resources and workshops like this I can participate in. I need the practice bad, need the feedback bad... eventually I want to do more with my art and get out of tech illustration it bores me to death now after six years of doing it. My only problem is where I live is horrible for art jobs. One thing at a time I suppose. I need to work at getting my art back up to a decent level before I feel confident enough to go seek other positions.

Yipes, sorry about the length! :o

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 07:50 PM
MeliHitchcock,

Thanks for the biographical info., I don't mind at all the length. :) It sounds as though you and I have had very similar backgrounds, in that we both studied illustration, and both have experience with Government Subcontracting ~ as you say, Boring with a capital "B". ;) But, a job is a job, and it pays the bills ~ so I am as happy as you are to have this forum as a resource / extension of the school experience, as prior to starting the forum, my art output was decreasing as well. It's fantastic to have such a great gathering place for really talented and hardworking artists ~ and to see everyone's contributions here. I may have been allowed to start the forum, but it's nothing without everyone's interest and collaboration on threads such as this one. :) So I do appreciate every post. :)

I have seen people improve at lightning pace on this forum, so I've no doubt that if you put in the requisite effort, you will come out with the results and improvement which you want. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to your next posts! And I wish you the best of luck in your art endeavours...I think that art has a lot to do with quality of life ~ even if you never make a dime off of doing what you love, at least you (meaning anyone) have a passion and a purpose, which is more than many people out there have.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MeliHitchcock
01-28-2006, 09:42 PM
Worked a bit more on it. I am ever so tempted to load this into photoshop and do the background as I have the perfect brush to finish it and blend it with, but... I... must... resist... temptation... :argh:

http://dragonsinmygarage.com/Open%20Figure%20Class/012/Figure_Final_drawing_01a.jpg

Rebeccak
01-28-2006, 09:44 PM
MeliHitchcock,

Great update! Wow, that was fast! :wip: I know what you mean about Painter...it's definitely hard to adjust to! :)

Realized a lot of things were off, so did a lot of cutting, pasting, and re~blending into the background:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_12.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-28-2006, 10:43 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Worked on big figures in foreground this morning
searching for lights and darks.
Then decided to play with light and color

Been a long time since I read Dante's Inferno. A truely disturbed and disturbing midieval
mentality, philosophy and vision of life and death if ever there was one.
Just my personal opinion and feeling.
Take Care
Glenn



http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_24.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_25.jpg

tizianoadmirer
01-29-2006, 12:02 AM
Lovely thread, thank you all.
If I'm allowed to make a suggestion for next time... here's a master painting that could work well in this kind of workshop... I think.... (Rebecca's opposite curves are everywhere in this one, by the way)
Have fun,
TL

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6001/3444zs.jpg

ErichSchreiner
01-29-2006, 11:05 AM
decided yesterday to join, here's my scanned pencil-sketch.
Next Step will be the underpainting in painter...

http://www.godlessbeauty.de/gallery/sketchOFDW12.jpg

Elsie
01-29-2006, 02:13 PM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8962/ver107nr.jpg

A bit of quick work on the background characters, not too much though (about 2 hours) since today is the last full day with Peter before he goes off to his new job in Amsterdam...hopefully I'll have this finished in the next week or so...

I'm not too sure whether to tighten the shading up to make it more photorealistic or to keep it more loose and painterly like this...I haven't started texturing or detailing anything yet. Keep up the good work everyone, lots of pieces really starting to look amazing now!

SpiritDreamer
01-29-2006, 03:08 PM
Hi..Elsie....:)

FANTASTIC job on those figures....in every respect....really liking your colors on this one..:thumbsup:

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 03:52 PM
Glenn,

The color looks great...looking forward to seeing how the drawing develops. :)

tizianoadmirer,

Welcome aboard! Thank you for the lovely image ~ I hope you will participate here with us! :wavey:

Erich,

Looks great! Really happy to see you joining us! :thumbsup:

Elsie,

Fantastic work! I'm sorry for the fact that Peter's taking off...but given that he seems like a world traveler, I'm sure he'll be back in town in no time flat. ;) *hugs*

~

A small update from me...trying to tidy the background a bit, and adding a bit of color as a test / undertone...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_14.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20012/OFDW_012_14A.jpg

This may be just about as far as I get on this one, due to the CGWorkshop starting up on Feb. 10th ~ but I'll defintely be following everyones' progress with anticipation! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fooxoo
01-29-2006, 03:54 PM
Hey Rebecca, I have a question:

I am doing my copy in graphite pencil - so it means it will be more or less grayscale. So I was wondering - what should I start shading first: the background or the main figures. I am not sure because the figures are very light if compared to the background. I fear if I start with the figs, I might get them too dark and mess up the overall contrast.


Great work everybody, Elsie - just fantastic!

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 03:59 PM
fooxoo,

Since you are doing your Master Copy in graphite, I really recommend having the line drawing be as finalized as possible before you start shading. This means a lot of work in the front end to get things ready for the shading process ~ since, as you know, once you start shading, it can be difficult if not impossible to rearrange features.

I think the best approach may be to shade (depending on whether you are right or left~handed) from the upper left corner, down and across diagonally to the bottom of the bottom right. This ensures that you don't smudge anything as you go ~ I would also recommend placing a sheet of clean paper under your hand and arm, so that you don't smudge your line work or any shading you may have already done in the main part of the drawing.

You'll really want to try to set the value key for the whole piece with the sky ~ take a step back, look at the original Reference image, and try to generally determine where are the areas of your lightest lights, and where are the areas of your darkest darks. When you start out, do something of a first pass until you are comfortable with your technique. In fact, I recommend just practicing basic drawing strokes on a sheet of paper before beginning.

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 04:09 PM
fooxoo,

Also take a look at this short demos in case it helps with shading technique:

TUTORIAL - Shading Techniques (Various Media) - by Rebeccak (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928

Shading Tutorial by Slux (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480&page=3&pp=15)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480&page=3&pp=15

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

ErichSchreiner
01-29-2006, 04:55 PM
update.................

http://www.godlessbeauty.de/gallery/underpaintingOFDW12.jpg

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 04:56 PM
Keep going, Erich!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-29-2006, 06:20 PM
@all
Hi Rebecca and Everyone,

it's very interesting to see, how different the pictures look, with same reference.
I find hardly the correct words around all the great progress to appreciate. Great work everyone!
And to the new thread-comer: great start here!
My update:

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4973/2901200618hz.jpg

Ciao,
Ravena

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 06:34 PM
Ravena,

Great update! :) It's really interesting to see how you're working ~ as you say, everyone's approach is different, which is the thing that's pretty cool! :)

I'm curious as to your technique ~ are you laying down blocks / textured strokes, and then blending them using the smudge / blur tool, or simply refining the painting as you go? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on your process! :thumbsup:

Keep up the great work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-29-2006, 07:21 PM
Rebecca,

thanks for your interest Rebecca. :) I hope I can express itself English enough, in order to describe how I work. Here I began for the first time with grey tones as you, but was however not particularly lucky over it. Okay, then after roughly outline/color-blocking with hard round brush, I distribute roughly the colors in the color with a „skin-brush“, so that I receive a feeling and an impression for the details. And then I zoom the picture, work more with skin-brush, here and there with the hard round, and then I used the blur tool (not the smudge tool). I think I work from the rough one to details and normally I work on one layer (with this picture however I began with 2 layers, but now in one). I hope I could answer your questions satisfyingly. Again thanks. :) (I have a stupid question: what are texture-strokes?)

Ciao,
Ravena

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 07:24 PM
Ravena,

Thanks for the explanation, that's quite clear! :thumbsup:

When I mentioned "texture - strokes", I just meant that your brushstrokes appear to be those of a textured paintbrush ~ that's all. :)

Thanks for explaining, and look forward to seeing your next update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Vidar3d
01-30-2006, 12:01 AM
Glen it's true what you say about the dark ages and their haunting view of hell.

Speaking of hell...I think artists who go to hell will spend eternity doing nothing but hand and foot studies.

Here is an update. Progress is slow but steady.

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/12c.jpg

Rebeccak
01-30-2006, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Vidar3d: Speaking of hell...I think artists who go to hell will spend eternity doing nothing but hand and foot studies.
Lol! :D Despite your comment, I think the hands in particular are looking quite nice! :wip:

Really nice update! :) Really liking how the figures have a texture similar to stone...they feel quite solid, almost like marble, which is cool to see! A lot of progress made in just a week...imagine where you can be in 2 or 3 weeks' time? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

daWinky
01-30-2006, 05:12 AM
Good morning!

Again impressive progress everyone!

I continue to work on the background and more work on the faces...I'm still not really happy with the expression!

Have all a great start in the week!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Dante_wip6.jpg

-sabrina

Lemog
01-30-2006, 05:14 AM
Morning Sabie... very nice progression, always in the good way for me... very effective style... :thumbsup:

Zapan
01-30-2006, 08:24 AM
Morning Sabie :bounce:

Great to see your progress ... that's truely an awesome work on these faces !
so where's the beginner here ? :)
Eagerly waitin' for your next update , let's burn the wacom :bounce:

@ Elsie : :surprised :eek: :applause: :thumbsup: :bowdown: ... -> smiley talk (I'm training)
Sad about Peter ...

@ Rebecca : w00t ! too bad you can't continue (huhu^^) ... but you have a good excuse :deal:
Now I just hope you will find some time in fabruary to join the next challenge anyway ... hey what am I saying ? *whistles innocently*
ps: you owe me a crown

Great work everyone !!

cheers,