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daart
01-17-2006, 10:24 AM
Just a logical step after Intel with their "new" cores ;)

Link:

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175803862

dotTom
01-19-2006, 09:07 AM
Yes, but the new AMD microarchitectures aren't due until 2007 / 2008. If you look at Intel's roadmaps from their IDF you'll see similar core generations - including, finally such this as (effectively) a FSB per core.

Mike.H
01-19-2006, 09:42 AM
actually amd is roling out a new socket (am2) this spring/summer and besides they are still ahead in performance/quality for desktop and servers so Intel is still the ones to play catchup so i woudnt "worry" about amd´s next architechture being scheduled for 2007/2008.

Beamtracer
01-19-2006, 09:51 AM
actually amd is roling out a new socket (am2) this spring/summer and besides they are still ahead in performance/quality for desktop and servers so Intel is still the ones to play catchup so i woudnt "worry" about amd´s next architechture being scheduled for 2007/2008.
Yes, I'd agree with that. On every major benchmark, AMD beats Intel for desktop computers and rendering work. However, Intel seems to be doing well with laptop processors.

What's interesting about this news of AMD developing 2 processor architectures is that one seems to be destined for server (industrial) applications. This will put it against Intel's Itanium processor. Should be interesting.

albedo4800hp
01-20-2006, 08:22 AM
What's interesting about this news of AMD developing 2 processor architectures is that one seems to be destined for server (industrial) applications. This will put it against Intel's Itanium processor. Should be interesting.

Itanium is close to being dead, give it two, three years and Intel will make it silently disappear.

daart
01-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Some further news:

"AMD licenses Innovative Silicon's SOI memory-5MB L2 Cache Coming?
EE Times has details on AMD getting a license for Innovative Silicon's SOI memory. Are we looking at embedded Z-RAM on next generation CPUs from AMD?

It could also provide a means to help AMD put distance between itself and PC processor rival Intel Corp. which, so far, has said it does not see a need to go to SOI technology. AMD's licensing of Z-RAM could also have implications for IBM and Chartered Semiconductor, with which AMD is aligned.

“The dramatic increase in density offered by ISi’s Z-RAM embedded memory can enable much larger on-chip microprocessor cache memories resulting in improved performance and reduced I/O power consumption,” said Craig Sander, corporate vice president of technology development at AMD.

Z-RAM promises 5 times the density of SRAM so could we see dual core chips with 5MB of L2 per core? The story also alludes to this tech showing up in AMD CPUs as soon as two years from now. In two years Fab 36 will be at full capacity, and 65nm will be well in hand. I for one wouldn't mind an ?FX60 with 10MB of L2 cache, or perhaps by then a quad core FX100 with 40MB of L2? :) On the Innovative Silicon site you can find white papers and an independent analysis for their technology. Apparently it is good enough to get them financial backing from Austin Ventures. We will see what else we can discover about Z-RAM and report what we find out. Update: It appears now that current Z-RAM technology is fast enough for an L2 cache, but not for high end processors. It is possible that AMD could utilize Z-RAM for a L3 cache, or that the memory technology could improve enough so that L2 cache usage is possible."

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4767&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Mike.H
01-20-2006, 01:42 PM
two years is quite alot of time for it to mature even more, im sure amd will put it to good use.

As for now im looking forward to seeing real hard numbers on what the spring/summer release of the new am2 socket will bring to the table as far as increased performance goes.

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