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M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Alright... as per request of Rebecca and Queensoul I am hereby filling this thread here with the endless amounts of anatomy ref that I have here... first... we shall start with the cool stuff, the videos!

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 02:54 PM
Oh... quick note, try to download the videos if you can off my host, don't want it to get too hammered into the ground heh...

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:03 PM
M.E.L.,

You...so...rock...!!! :bounce:

This is outstanding...thanks for posting this!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 03:04 PM
Some more... this time in pic format (I can't remember the name of the book that I scanned these from, it was a medical book that a doctorate student gave me I'll dig it out of the box after my move and throw out the proper credit eventually).

http://www.creaturetd.net/anatomy/Arm_muscles_back.png

http://www.creaturetd.net/anatomy/Arm_muscles_front_deep.png

http://www.creaturetd.net/anatomy/Arm_muscles_front_superficial.png

http://www.creaturetd.net/anatomy/Fig409.gif

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:05 PM
M.E.L.,

Looks like Gray's Anatomy (http://www.bartleby.com/107/)...

Online here, terrific resource as well:

http://www.bartleby.com/107/

You know, you do have to tell us something about your background / training. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 03:08 PM
M.E.L.,

The links alone are great ~ the movies are fantastic. Do you know who is responsible for the movies originally? Looking forward to whatever else you might have to offer here.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

The fluoroscopy movies came from the dartmouth site for a few, the others Chris Evans was able to come across and since then I've only stumbled on a few more through some doctor friends and whatnot. Chris Evans also shot the video of the guy doing the chest flexing and movement.

-s

Ego
01-15-2006, 03:08 PM
Aaaawwww Shawn, thanks a bunch! Thanks for keeping your word. Its very much appreciated. Now I'd give you a hug but you look so damn scary :D

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by M.E.L.: The fluoroscopy movies came from the dartmouth site for a few, the others Chris Evans was able to come across and since then I've only stumbled on a few more through some doctor friends and whatnot. Chris Evans also shot the video of the guy doing the chest flexing and movement.
Sweet! These are great!! If you come across any more, please do post them up. :thumbsup:

A good book I just picked up which you might be interested in is:

Strength Training Anatomy (Paperback) (Mostly men, some women)
by Frederic Delavier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736063684/qid=1137341388/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6060487-2648630?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)

Women's Strength Training Anatomy (Paperback)
by Frederic Delavier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736048138/qid=1137341449/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-6060487-2648630?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Have barely cracked these as I've just picked them up, but EXCELLENT renderings of muscle overlays over drawings of strength trainers ~ the author is a bodybuilder and artist, great stuff! :)

EDIT: Okay, you have been permanently added to the Sticky Links thread here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3048018#post3048018):
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3048018#post3048018

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 03:15 PM
M.E.L.,

Looks like Gray's Anatomy (http://www.bartleby.com/107/)...

Online here, terrific resource as well:

http://www.bartleby.com/107/

You know, you do have to tell us something about your background / training. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Yes!! Thank you that is the book, Gray's Anatomy. Lifesaver heh.


I'll make this super duper short...

My background itself has always been fairly technical... I was never much of an artist but I studied fine art at Sheridan College, I focussed primarily on figure drawing, 2d design and technical illustration. I further continued studies at Centennial College doing part-time life drawing in the evenings and full-time Digital Animation during the day. I also have to admit that while I was at Sheridan I had a focus on Mechanical Engineering as well and took a few courses on that.

My teen years (16-19) were spent doing lots of engineering such as car fabrication of parts and whatnot (I built my own custom engine setup for my very first car which was a 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback... did all the install, fabrication and work etc).

These days my time is wrapped up in work as I currently work for Sony Online Entertainment in Seattle as their Technical Artist (specializing in Character Setup/Rigging etc). Prior to this I was at Electronic Arts working as a Technical Artist on Xbox 360 development for NBA Live 06 and FIFA: Road To World Cup 06.. before that I was at Elliott Animation workin on a full cg feature titled Happily N'ever After and then prior to that I was at Meteor Studios where I worked on Exorcist: The Beginning and Alien Planet (a discovery channel feature that was based on the Expedition book done by Wayne Barlowe - got to meet him, lots of cool drawings and other awesome stuff!).

That about wraps it up ;)


-s

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 03:17 PM
Sweet! These are great!! If you come across any more, please do post them up. :thumbsup:

A good book I just picked up which you might be interested in is:

Strength Training Anatomy (Paperback) (Mostly men, some women)
by Frederic Delavier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736063684/qid=1137341388/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6060487-2648630?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)

Women's Strength Training Anatomy (Paperback)
by Frederic Delavier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0736048138/qid=1137341449/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-6060487-2648630?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Have barely cracked these as I've just picked them up, but EXCELLENT renderings of muscle overlays over drawings of strength trainers ~ the author is a bodybuilder and artist, great stuff! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Wicked! I'll check these out for sure!

I'm waiting for a very good girl friend of mine to ring me back, she's started working at a publishing company doing medical illustration for textbooks in US schools etc... I'm trying to see if I can get my hands on some of these :) If I do I'll be sure to post lots of pictures and some of her work as well (fantastic illustrator).

-s

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by M.E.L.: Yes!! Thank you that is the book, Gray's Anatomy. Lifesaver heh.

I'll make this super duper short...

My background itself has always been fairly technical... I was never much of an artist but I studied fine art at Sheridan College, I focussed primarily on figure drawing, 2d design and technical illustration. I further continued studies at Centennial College doing part-time life drawing in the evenings and full-time Digital Animation during the day. I also have to admit that while I was at Sheridan I had a focus on Mechanical Engineering as well and took a few courses on that.

My teen years (16-19) were spent doing lots of engineering such as car fabrication of parts and whatnot (I built my own custom engine setup for my very first car which was a 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback... did all the install, fabrication and work etc).

These days my time is wrapped up in work as I currently work for Sony Online Entertainment in Seattle as their Technical Artist (specializing in Character Setup/Rigging etc). Prior to this I was at Electronic Arts working as a Technical Artist on Xbox 360 development for NBA Live 06 and FIFA: Road To World Cup 06.. before that I was at Elliott Animation workin on a full cg feature titled Happily N'ever After and then prior to that I was at Meteor Studios where I worked on Exorcist: The Beginning and Alien Planet (a discovery channel feature that was based on the Expedition book done by Wayne Barlowe - got to meet him, lots of cool drawings and other awesome stuff!).

That about wraps it up ;)
Well, holy crap! Great to have you on the forum! :thumbsup: Anything you'd ever like to offer here is more than welcome! Thanks for telling us about yourself, I always find peoples' bios fascinating. And it sounds as though you've had an amazing career! Is there any of your own work which you can post here, or is it all protected by NDAs?

EDIT: I'll definitely be advertising this in threads on the other forums. Give me a few. :)

Originally posted by M.E.L.: Wicked! I'll check these out for sure!

I'm waiting for a very good girl friend of mine to ring me back, she's started working at a publishing company doing medical illustration for textbooks in US schools etc... I'm trying to see if I can get my hands on some of these :) If I do I'll be sure to post lots of pictures and some of her work as well (fantastic illustrator).
Sweet! You should check out the work of David Ehlert, a Medical Illustrator here on the Forum ~ (who goes by the name Redehlert):

Anatomy Thread of Redehlert (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297665)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297665

Your friend is more than welcome to create her own Anatomy Thread here as well, if she's interested. I would definitely love to have more professionals, particularly professional Medical Illustrators, post their work here. :)

EDIT: Ok, you've also been linked up here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2817397&postcount=12):
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2817397&postcount=12

...As well as advertised on CGS, Gen Discussion, Art Theories, and WIP 2D Forums.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:38 PM
Also, there's the *possibility* that the Anatomy Forum will be moving out of the WIP 2D Forum, and up one level into the Main WIP Forum ~ effectively taking it out of the 2D category, which I am hoping will encourage more 3D and 2.5 people to post their work along with the great 2D folks who primarily post here now. :) This to me makes sense as Anatomy obviously applies to 2, 2.5, and 3D artists ~ and it would be great to get some interaction going between the groups, as you see in the awesome Challenges.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 03:47 PM
Hey, I just bought that! :) Part of my Christmas splurge... :)

Atlas of Human Anatomy, Third Edition (Paperback)
by Frank H. Netter, John T. Hansen (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1929007116/qid=1137343620/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-6060487-2648630?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 03:48 PM
Well, holy crap! Great to have you on the forum! :thumbsup: Anything you'd ever like to offer here is more than welcome! Thanks for telling us about yourself, I always find peoples' bios fascinating. And it sounds as though you've had an amazing career! Is there any of your own work which you can post here, or is it all protected by NDAs?
~Rebeccak

Gonna save a wack of space here and just do this:

http://www.creaturetd.net personal site that has all of my work and whatnot strung to it plus any R&D stuff I've done on the personal side of things.

-s

Icarus
01-15-2006, 03:51 PM
fantastic thread, good to hear your bio m0b :)

Thanks for the links

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by M.E.L.: Just a Disclaimer here heh...I mainly did Character Setup work at all the shops (skinning characters, weighting them, doing cloth stuff, hair rigging etc etc) working with a team ranging from myself and another TD to around 3-5 people on the team. HNA was a bit different as there were tons of people working at once, the trailer itself doesn't have any of my work or the shop I worked for's stuff on it but you get a general idea of the film, characters and whatnot.
Thanks for that! It's great to see this kind of work on the forum. Hopefully will be seeing more! :thumbsup:

BTW, we do also have a few 3D threads here...

3D DIGITAL ARTISTS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257442)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257442

Also, Lemog, Gunilla, Zapan, scootermaya, and a few others have 3D Anatomy Threads here as well. 3D'ers are definitely welcome!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

TheLostVertex
01-15-2006, 04:36 PM
More reference I just shot with the digicam (some pictures are a bit blurred as I've been working on shooting stuff without the Powershots Image Stabilization stuff). Reference is taken from the absolute BIBLE of anatomy and medical stuff - Frank H Netter's Atlas Of Human Anatomy (3rd Edition Hard Cover: ISBN - 192900711-6).

... ...

GO BUY THE BOOK! IT'S WORTH IT!!!

-s

I cant attest to that more, it is the best illustration of human anatomy I've seen. Also try to get the edition that comes with the cdrom, makes it quick and easy to do a screen grab and use the picture as a referance if needed. Go buy it!

-Steven

Hugh-Jass
01-15-2006, 08:17 PM
M.E.L. thanks so much for posting all of this info...super useful

M.E.L.
01-15-2006, 08:42 PM
Here is some rather 'extreme' reference. This footage is off the 2004 Race For Mr Olympia DVD (for anyone familiar with bodybuilding the 'Big O' is the most coveted competition in bodybuilding and rolls around once a year where the best of the best come to shine). I bought this dvd a while back and man... I can't tell you how worth it this baby is, I use it for training/conditioning myself but just the sheer anatomy reference from it is astounding... you gotta see it.


-s

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 08:50 PM
These are great, thanks! :bounce:

rblitz7
01-15-2006, 09:15 PM
This stuff never fails to disgust me. While it might be good reference I dont get how people could do that, its sick!

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 09:19 PM
There are definitely steroids at work here. I was talking to a bodybuilder friend who was explaining that it's impossible to get that built up without it ~ and showed me comparative photos of bodybuilders in the 1940s and 50s, who were, by contrast, quite a bit 'softer' and not the pumped up guys / gals of today.

-KDX-
01-15-2006, 09:38 PM
There are definitely steroids at work here. I was talking to a bodybuilder friend who was explaining that it's impossible to get that built up without it ~ and showed me comparative photos of bodybuilders in the 1940s and 50s, who were, by contrast, quite a bit 'softer' and not the pumped up guys / gals of today.

I usually don't interject, but you are, in this case, dead wrong. The reason bodybuilders are bigger now is because of all of the sciences' involved advances including nutrition and general wellness. Bodybuilders today simply have more knowledge and capability than the ones from the 50's and 60's. With proper nutrition and regiment, with a help from a good gene pool, just about anyone can look like that. Not 100% of course because some people have genetic shortcomings or ailments preventing it, but I'd say an easy majority of people could get that large if they worked towards it and did it correctly.

you don't HAVE to take steroids to get that huge, it's just a shortcut for the lazier bodybuilders...

anyways...that was my 2 cents. Great thread btw, sorry if I went off topic.

-KDX-

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 09:40 PM
-KDX-,

No worries, ;) frankly I'm just repeating what my friend was explaining. He's in a better position than I to know ~ I'm not a bodybuilding expert myself. ;)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Lyneran
01-15-2006, 09:45 PM
wow great references big, big thanks for sharing these! i especially find the videos showing the movement of bones inside the body useful. :)

Mu
01-15-2006, 10:41 PM
It is so much information I cannot indulge in this abundance properly yet, but from the few quick clicks I followed (anatomy website with a video which explained the structure of the lungs and an x-rayed knee in motion) I can say that this thread is an awe-inspiring source of study and a well of knowledge for learning about oneself in general.

I mean, it's always striking how little my knowledge about my own body is, as if I never minded taking a look at it.

This goes far beyond my goals as an aspiring draughtsman/painter. Thank you!

M.E.L.
01-16-2006, 02:18 AM
see below :)

M.E.L.
01-16-2006, 03:48 AM
http://www.artnatomia.net/uk/index.html


another addition for Facial Anatomy.


-s

Ego
01-16-2006, 04:16 AM
Shawn, I can't thank you enough for providing these references. These will be fun to study.

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 07:36 AM
Originally Posted by M.E.L.:

http://www.artnatomia.net/uk/index.html

another addition for Facial Anatomy.
FANTASTIC link, thanks! :applause: If you have any more amazing links like that, please post them!
Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Zapan
01-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Thx a lot for all these great links
the first Xray videos are just priceless :thumbsup:

Many thx :bounce:

-cheers

Zapan
01-17-2006, 06:43 AM
Also, there's the *possibility* that the Anatomy Forum will be moving out of the WIP 2D Forum, and up one level into the Main WIP Forum ~ effectively taking it out of the 2D category, which I am hoping will encourage more 3D and 2.5 people to post their work along with the great 2D folks who primarily post here now. :) This to me makes sense as Anatomy obviously applies to 2, 2.5, and 3D artists ~ and it would be great to get some interaction going between the groups, as you see in the awesome Challenges.

Oh btw , glad to hear this is still on the table , I was wondering if so since there wasn't any news about it .
Spam interaction hu ? :D

Rebeccak
01-17-2006, 06:44 AM
Scar~Go,

Will letcha know as soon as I know. :) :thumbsup:

underearth
11-10-2006, 10:17 AM
some more detailed facial expression here

http://research.animationsinstitut.de/

click on Expression Repertoire on left side and simple refistration for.. detailed facial expression and ActionUnits

thanks

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