ArtRage 2

[ChrisMann]

Hmm. Free, I dont know. If that is not mentioned, it might not be anymore...

Had fun playing around with the 1.0 version. Straight forward interface and realistic paint/brush physics.

[Squeakypics]

OOOh! it's going to have a rotatable canvas feature!
That gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

[Nichod]

Here is hoping that its free.

[Alonzo]

blender3d also is still free, i hope that artrage2 will also be still for free

[Per-Anders]

that looks like a nice upgrade indeed, thanks for the notice.

[rootdown]

I've been fooling around with the beta, and oh my gosh you guys, this program is so slick. :)

In my understanding there's going to be a free limited edition or trial edition, and a small fee (think in the $20 range) for a full registered version. They really want to make it free but they just can't afford to this time around.

[SheepFactory]

I cant wait to try this out , looks very very nice indeed!

[danielh68]

Wow, this is great news. I was hoping they would continue to develop it. When I downloaded Artrage 1, I thought "If it only supported layers, I would use it regularly". Now, it does...plus a host of other great enhancements :thumbsup:

When's the official launch?

[Hugh-Jass]

looking forward to this.... free or not... the app that feels right gets my cash

[phantomworkshop]

Sweet! I remember using Artrage 1, and I agree about the layers...

[chrisWhite]

Wow that looks awesome! I really want to try it out, any clue when they will be releasing it?

[rootdown]

I don't know when it's due out (lost the emails) but I do know that they've got it just about wrapped up, they're doing minor bugfixes now.

[Art2]

In my understanding there's going to be a free limited edition or trial edition, and a small fee (think in the $20 range) for a full registered version. They really want to make it free but they just can't afford to this time around.

20 bucks is still free :)
I love Artrage!
Thanks for the news.

[tauism]

i really liked artrage1 just for doodling around and stuff, but i would have really liked a watercolour brush.

are there any programs out there with good water colour brushes? i've tried painter's but its really slow and doesn't look that good.

[eric3dee]

Dang. I hate to comment before trying it out, but with features like rotating canvas and textured brushes, and a price point of only $20. It really looks like this could give Sketchbook a run for its money... we'll see I suppose.
Release the demo already!

[rootdown]

I should probably hurry up and clarify here that $20 is only my own speculation. What I was actually told as far as fees were concerned were that the cost would be "so small that it would be stupid not to register," or words very close to those.

I'll point them at this thread and maybe we can have somebody more reliable than myself providing information. :)

[erilaz]

Yarrgh! I hate it when they say "Coming really soon!". How soon is that? How SOOOOOON? :scream:

[Ego]

Yarrgh! I hate it when they say "Coming really soon!". How soon is that? How SOOOOOON? :scream:
Echo that. I cant wait to lay my hands on it.

[rootdown]

Okay! I just talked to them and I have confirmation that the registered version is going for $19.95 US monies and I've also been asked to note that the free version will have all the features of AR1, with the faster, more accurate, and more realistic tools, and a couple of new bits of technology. There will still be a free non-crippled version that's better than AR1.

I've also been quoted an estimate for the release date but have been asked not to repeat it. But it's, uh, really soon. :)

[Devvv]

i really liked artrage1 just for doodling around and stuff, but i would have really liked a watercolour brush.

are there any programs out there with good water colour brushes? i've tried painter's but its really slow and doesn't look that good.

Have you tried Open Canvas before? It has a water color brush that is pretty similar to Painter's Simple Water brush. The most recent version is 4 but you can get version 1 for free online. http://www.warpaint.se/

Note: version 1 is the only version that has the networking option.

[Devvv]

Heh. Forgot to comment on the subject...

I can't wait for the release of version 2! If it's for $20.00 then I wouldn't mind buying it. The developers deserve it for creating this awesome program. :)

[Per-Anders]

i can't wait for this myself. artrages painting tools whilst simple are imo the best out there, the 20 bucks is nothing for this app.

[visionmaster2]

ouaouuuu , Great soft !!

[tauism]

Have you tried Open Canvas before? It has a water color brush that is pretty similar to Painter's Simple Water brush. The most recent version is 4 but you can get version 1 for free online. http://www.warpaint.se/

Note: version 1 is the only version that has the networking option.

thanks devvv, i'll check it out

[samartin]

Thanks for the heads up, just trying 1.1 now and I'm loving it's simplicity. I don't draw, used to as a child but long lost my drawing skills, blown away by how easy this is to use, just chucked a lo-res photo of mine as tracing paper and started doodling...

Roll on the v2 and money is handed over ASAP, I'm looking forward to getting into doodling once again :D

TIFF support woiuld be nice so I could use my full size images but no biggy...

10mins into using the package :-

http://www.plop.info/CGT/angelpray2.jpg

[Bliz]

Wicked, I'm about a third away through a painting in ArtRage1.1. I was just thinking how I'll need to use photoshop to get basic layering working but now I know I can wait for ArtRage2. I'll be splashing the tiny bit of cash down for this.

[a_w]

ArtRage 2 is out now!!!

Available in two flavors. Full Edition $20 or Free (minus a few handy features)

http://www.artrage.com/artrage.html


a_w

[ambient-whisper]

ArtRage 2 is out now!!!

Available in two flavors. Full Edition $20 or Free (minus a few handy features)

http://www.artrage.com/artrage.html


a_w

man. version 2 feels so good. all the tools are fast, the palette knife looks better than before
, as does the eraser, the pressure stuff is awesome,, as are the tilt tools, etc.

these guys are kicking ass hardcore.

[pnoland]

WOO! I just bought it, it's amazing. I've been wanting to buy painter but I'm holding off since this has most of the features I wanted. Rotating the canvas helps a lot...now to stop sucking at drawing... ;)

[JDex]

Oooh... improvements galore. May have to pick it up soon.

[SheepFactory]

man it doesnt work with cintiq , bummer :(

it looks so nice too i hope they add support for it soon.

[chrisWhite]

Wow, the free version is amazing, definitely a must buy!

[ambient-whisper]

WOO! I just bought it, it's amazing. I've been wanting to buy painter but I'm holding off since this has most of the features I wanted. Rotating the canvas helps a lot...now to stop sucking at drawing... ;)on that note, i just bought it too, and i really like the extra options for the brushes that you get with the full version. such as wetness for the marker, or softness for each brush. the way this stuff works is gold.

oh man and the custom colour picker. awesome stuff!

[DevilHacker]

WOW.
Thanks for the link!
I really liked ArtRage1...

And you cant get any better than $20...
:thumbsup:

[opus13]

damn.

all time record with a show-stopping error. 2 seconds.

the cursor and paint location are a couple screen inches awat from eachother. it happens with mouse, talet, or trackball.

[LoTekK]

damn.

all time record with a show-stopping error. 2 seconds.

the cursor and paint location are a couple screen inches awat from eachother. it happens with mouse, talet, or trackball.
Are you using a multi-monitor setup? I remember this happened in the old (pre-1.1) release of Artrage, but got fixed with 1.1. I wonder if it got somehow reintroduced/missed?

Anyways, the feature list looks awesome. Downloading the free version, though considering how much I enjoyed the relatively limited first version, I'm likely to cough up for the full version (at $20! bloody amazing pricepoint).

edit:
Wow. It is a lot faster. The new pencils are nice, too, as is the new interface. However, the thing that well and truly impresses me is the fact that rotating the canvas results in zero appreciable loss in perceived image quality. None. Whatsoever. I don't believe I've tried another app that doesn't reduce the perceived image quality at least a little when the canvas is rotated. Using a tablet PC, though, so rotating the canvas isn't quite as important to me, but it's still impressive nontheless. :thumbsup: Definitely going to spring for the full version.

[DanSilverman]

man it doesnt work with cintiq , bummer :(

it looks so nice too i hope they add support for it soon.

Hey Sheep Factory,

It works perfectly well on my Cintiq. Do you have the latest Wacom drivers installed? What is your set-up like? My Cintiq is my secondary monitor.

[MattFW]

Hi there, I just wanted to drop a note to the forum that we've received a couple of reports of problems, one with a Cintiq and one with a multi-monitor setup. We're gathering info on it at the moment and we'll get a patch out when we're sure we've fixed the problem. While we tested it in a couple of multi-monitor situations, it's possible that something slipped past us and we'll see if we can track it down.

As a side note, I have replicated a problem with the cursor being offset when a Wacom tablet is running in mouse mode. While we fixed a problem that prevented ArtRage using custom mapping of the tablet to the screen, that one managed to get by us, but the fact that we can replicate it means we can fix it!

In the meantime, if you have any data you'd like to pass on regarding symptoms, send it direct to me (matt@ambientdesign.com) and I'll get on to it. I guess this post will take some time to appear given that it has to be validated, but we're watching :)

Thanks!

[Art2]

I'm so excited, I'm so excited, I'm running in circles! :bounce:
Where's my wallet!!

:thumbsup:

[Solothores]

Wow, Love the free version! :D This will definitly lead into a purchase :)

[SheepFactory]

Hey Sheep Factory,

It works perfectly well on my Cintiq. Do you have the latest Wacom drivers installed? What is your set-up like? My Cintiq is my secondary monitor.

Yea i have the latest ones installed , the latest ones for xp64 that is. I use cintiq as my primary monitor but also tried disabling dual view and went back to single monitor stup andit still didnt work :(

i will try reinstalling the drivers.

[augustus]

Just purchased! Very cool!!! :bounce:

[lunat1k]

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up.

[greyface]

Great upgrade! version 1's oils were too slow compared to Painter, but now they are snappy! Can anyone tell me if theres a way to get an effect like the watercolors in Painter? Or simply a brush with pressure sensitive opacity? I haven't found anything yet in the free version.

[Per-Anders]

sweet update, well worth it.

there are still a couple of things i wish it had, like the ability to link tablet tilt to the tilt angle of the pencil, and i'd love to have some sort of control for overall tablet pen pressure sensitivity. also i'm still thinking that pencils should multiply together rather than cover.

[rgwarren]

Great program. However, I'm running my Cintiq 21 as my second monitor. Everytime I 'maximize' the app on the Cintiq display it disapears. I can get it back from the taskbar using 'restore window' but then without the menu bar and as a smaller window.

It's not liking my Cintiq as a second monitor. Don't have this problem with Sketchbook 2.0 ( or Photoshop etc) so I know thing are setup properly.

[DanSilverman]

Is there a SMUDGE tool for the pencil in Art Rage? I tried the palette knife (or whatever it is called ;) ) and it smudges, but it makes the pencil darker and darker as it smudges ... this is not the affect that I was looking for ;) .

[Art2]

Great program. However, I'm running my Cintiq 21 as my second monitor. Everytime I 'maximize' the app on the Cintiq display it disapears. I can get it back from the taskbar using 'restore window' but then without the menu bar and as a smaller window.

It's not liking my Cintiq as a second monitor. Don't have this problem with Sketchbook 2.0 ( or Photoshop etc) so I know thing are setup properly.

I get this too with my dual monitor setup. If I drag the Artrage window to my second monitor and max it, it dissappears. Actually it minimizes to my taskbar. After I klick it, it maximizes to my second monitor.

It would be nice if you could drag the menus to the second monitor :)

[rgwarren]

At least you get it to maximize. I get nothing. Works great on my primary monitor.

I can't believe no one noticed this problem during testing. Hopefully a fix will be forthcoming as it looks like it would be great if I could actually use it full screen on my Cintiq.

[Art2]

At least you have a Cintiq :D

Sorry to hear that rgwarren.

I noticed another small thing.
When I flip my wacom pen the eraser work fine, but it would be nice if the erasertool settings would appear everytime you flip the pen to erase something.

But man, what a nice update!

[DanSilverman]

However, I'm running my Cintiq 21 as my second monitor. Everytime I 'maximize' the app on the Cintiq display it disapears. I can get it back from the taskbar using 'restore window' but then without the menu bar and as a smaller window.

Yep. I am experiencing the same thing here. I have to drag ArtRage from Monitor 1 to the Cintiq and then drag it to full-screen size. Trying to maximize it simply causes it to minimize to the task bar (and I have one on the second monitor ... the Cintiq ... because I am running UltraMon) and I cannot get it back by clicking on it.

[Art2]

I made a drawing and the file had 2 layers. I kept the bottom layer empty and did the drawing on the top layer.
It seems that when you save to psd, you need to have something on each layer.
Otherwise Photoshop can't read the layers and Painter refuses to open the file.

[chrisWhite]

Man, I am so impressed with version 2, well worth the money. I've never had a program that you could learn in half-an-hour yet have enough power to do high-end work with it, which ArtRage certainly feels capable of. The other thing I like is that it's the first program that really feels like I'm using traditional media with it, granted, I haven't used Painter much, but for the price it's amazing. I find myself already excited to what they'll do with it in the future, I'd love to see what they could do with watercolors or pastels. Five stars for sure!

[Mu]

Just want to throw in my praise.

Artrage 1.1 had already been a very important tool for me as I relied on freeware and it was the only one I could use with good looking natural media and a performance good enough for high-res!

The new version still manages to keep its simplistic intuitive interface while introducing many fine features.

Rotating the canvas rocks!

I think I will eventually buy it (need to recover from a painter purchase first), for the following reasons:

- layers
- resizing canvas (god how scary it was (and is, with the free version of AR2) to paint and know:"it has to fit the canvas otherwise I'm screwed...")
- so many new tools
- 20 bucks is almost nothing

So, congratulations on a fantastic tool (for a price that is actually unilateralism on the front line of pirate copying...)

[specialbrew]

It's a lot to ask I guess, but can you lock transparency on a layer in the same manner as PS?

[Nightez]

I bought it! Couldnt afford not to at only £11. Its great I dont think I need painter anymore.

[Bsmith]

I bought it! Couldnt afford not to at only £11. Its great I dont think I need painter anymore.

is this program better than painter?

[JDex]

is this program better than painter?


If it suits your needs better. Some might say it is, others definitely will not. I personally think that at the price, it's a good place to start and if Painter offers something that you need (as in worth the price tag)... you can get Painter also.

[Bsmith]

I just tried the free version...didn't like it very much..prolly stick to photoshop.

[Bliz]

I think it's better than Painter. It's more simple and direct than Painter, and to me seems faster and more responsive. Can't really think what Painter features I would need.
I think in the next few months you'll see finished work created in ArtRage that will look no different in finish and quality to the stuff created in Painter.

[danielh68]

I've always used Photoshop as my primary painting tool, although I would occasionally import work into Painter to add some natural media touches. Painter is a sophisticated tool that I never bothered to learn in-depthly. So, from my perspective, ArtRage2 is a perfect alternative. It takes no time to learn, the brush response rate is fast, it interprets paint behavior much like real-world paints and it's very affordable.

I really hope Ambient continues to develop this product.

[greyface]

Just purchased it - great tool.

[Nightez]

is this program better than painter? Painter is better, has more bells and whistles. Art Rage has a better interface and for what I do its plenty good enough.

[MattFW]

Hi all,

Earlier on in the thread I said we were looking in to some of the problems people have been having with ArtRage on Cintiqs and dual monitors, and PSD issues. While I apologise for cluttering the thread with a request, we've got a patch ready for testing and I'm looking for someone with a Cintiq who would be willing to try it out. The one we managed to source here is working, but you never know if someone else's setup is different! If anyone's been using ArtRage and is interested in testing it out, please drop me a line at matt@ambientdesign.com.

- Matt, Ambient Design.

[Ego]

Got my license. This is really awesome. The ability to pin your reference photo to the side of the canvas is worth makes this application the most wonderful of my digital drawing tools.

It saves me time and comes very handy when we are doing timed drawings.

[erilaz]

It saves me time and comes very handy when we are doing timed drawings.

And we all know what they are! Excellent program for doing the 15 minute sketchathon! :D

[Art2]

Artrage is updated to version 2.05. (http://www.ambientdesign.com/artragedown.html)

It's for the full version.

[erilaz]

Artrage is updated to version 2.05. (http://www.ambientdesign.com/artragedown.html)

It's for the full version.

Thanks for the heads up art2! :D

[DimitrisLiatsos]

It may come as a surprise to u ...but i will purchase the OSX version too :bounce: .

Oh where the world has come to ?! :D

[mdwsr]

Got the free version a couple weeks ago, and just coughed up the $20 for the full. Great program, not too much, not too little. Definately worth the price. Bye-bye PIX.5

[opus13]

i got the updated 2.05 version, but still am having the exact same multi-monitor+tablet issues.
:sad:

[Per-Anders]

go to Edit->Preferences and switch on "Use Mouse Mode"

[opus13]

thanks, much appreciated.

[sconlogue]

This things great! All the stuff I have been wishing photoshop would do this does! The interface is a nice step forward too. I wish more apps worked like this. $20! What a steal for the quality. Also nice to just be able to paint. In many cases that's all I want to do. 5 stars from me!

[bobtronic]

Can I buy Artrage2 through Paypal ? I don't have a credit card.

Bob

[rgwarren]

Fantastic. The update fixed my dual monitor issues where I had a Cintiq as my second monitor.

[natemills]

can someone post some work - show some line work

any examples - screen shots

cheers
nate

[danielh68]

Here's a sketch I did which was mostly done in Artrage.

http://www.danielhelzer.com/sketches/sketch107.jpg

[Art2]

- show some line work

I used the pencil tool for this...
http://www.marlonart.nl/images/sket/17.jpg

excellent work Daniel!!

[Ego]

Sweet samples guys. Is there a way to make the reference image bigger? I mean the one you tack to the side while you draw.

[Art2]

Sweet samples guys. Is there a way to make the reference image bigger? I mean the one you tack to the side while you draw.

LOL just checked it out. There is actually. Just move your mouse to the edge (corner) of the ref pic, when it changes shape, you can rotate and adjust the size.

[Ego]

LOL just checked it out. There is actually. Just move your mouse to the edge (corner) of the ref pic, when it changes shape, you can rotate and adjust the size.
I know there's a reason why you are one of my fav people :thumbsup:

[Ego]

*cries hysterically!! I just lost an entire day of work. :scream: I had no idea this was not compatible with photoshop cs2 :/ I save document as .psd. Closed artrage and tried to retrieve in photoshop and got a mess with a message that its not compatible with my version of photoshop. Are any of you sharing images between artrage and photoshop CS2 in .psd format?

[danielh68]

Yeah, I work with PS7 and even with that, I have had issues with saving my work. It's a drag, but I usually export as a .bmp file. It flattens it, but I generally work on a flat PS file anyhow. Hopefully, they will continue to make improvements with ArtRage. Despite its shortcomings, it's still a great product.

[el_diablo]

So far so good. Layering the image helps reworking it as you go. Have'nt had any problems with PS CS2 exchange yet.

[paintbox]

Check's in the mail!

Loved the demo.

Bobtronic : You can pay in several ways with Kagi, you don't need a credit card. You could even pay cash if you want.

[bobtronic]

Check's in the mail!

Loved the demo.

Bobtronic : You can pay in several ways with Kagi, you don't need a credit card. You could even pay cash if you want.

thanks, but this is the point I don't like. I don't like to send a letter with cash or check over the pond to get my copy. Well I guess I have to because I really would like to use Artrage2. I would much prefer if they used ShareIt! instead of Kagi, makes it much easier for us Europeans.

Bob

[Spin99]

My first mouse sketch on a borrowed old PC :D
Well I think this software kicks!
No need to match the tag for Painter or Sketchbook Pro.

:cool:

[paintbox]

thanks, but this is the point I don't like. I don't like to send a letter with cash or check over the pond to get my copy. Well I guess I have to because I really would like to use Artrage2. I would much prefer if they used ShareIt! instead of Kagi, makes it much easier for us Europeans.

Bob

I see what you mean and I agree. Allthough the amount is low enough for me to risk it. Maybe if I had put on "Grandma Kagi" on the envelope it might be more inconspicious. ;)

Shareit! sure is a lot closer for us Europs than Kagi. So Ambient Design, if your reading this :)

[paintbox]

Just got ArtRage 2, and I love it, especially because it is so very responsive. I think that is what I like best about it. Photoshop just seems slower to respond to my strokes (especially with big brushes)

[lildragon]

Is there a SMUDGE tool for the pencil in Art Rage? I tried the palette knife (or whatever it is called ;) ) and it smudges, but it makes the pencil darker and darker as it smudges ... this is not the affect that I was looking for ;) .

This is my only concern. Just found out about this wonderful app from the banner above ;) (who says advertising doesn't pay) and was about to buy it, but this feature concerns me as I use smudge sticks/tortillions in traditional media for realism in my work. Anyone has any thoughts on this?

-t

[augustus]

This is my only concern. Just found out about this wonderful app from the banner above ;) (who says advertising doesn't pay) and was about to buy it, but this feature concerns me as I use smudge sticks/tortillions in traditional media for realism in my work. Anyone has any thoughts on this?

-t

It does that when you use pencils on clear canvas. But if you coat canvas using pen or paint roller (better, but free version does not have this), palette knife on pencil strokes works much better.

[lildragon]

It does that when you use pencils on clear canvas. But if you coat canvas using pen or paint roller (better, but free version does not have this), palette knife on pencil strokes works much better.

Ah ok, that's good to know. I'll pick it up today then.

-lild

[Art2]

Is there a SMUDGE tool for the pencil in Art Rage? I tried the palette knife (or whatever it is called ;) ) and it smudges, but it makes the pencil darker and darker as it smudges ... this is not the affect that I was looking for ;) .



This is my only concern. Just found out about this wonderful app from the banner above ;) (who says advertising doesn't pay) and was about to buy it, but this feature concerns me as I use smudge sticks/tortillions in traditional media for realism in my work. Anyone has any thoughts on this?

-t


Update 2.1 is available.

Maybe it solves the concerns you guys have.
I haven't tried it yet, but they improved the paletteknife among other things (like blend and smudge).
Looks like a cool update.

Tweaks & Features.




Palette Knife: We reworked the Palette Knife to improve smearing and blending quality.
Dry Brushing: Added a 'Dry Brush' function. When you take the Oil Brush or Paint Roller Loading to 0% the tool applies no paint, you can use it to blend existing paint as if it was clean.
Quick Mirror Check: Added a 'Quick Mirror' function that allows you to do a quick 'mirror check' of your painting. Holding down the H key flips your painting horizontally, holding down the V key flips it vertically. When you release the key, the painting returns to its normal orientation. This function is for people who like to be able to do mirror checks of their work to check for structural problems.
Background Colour: You can now change the background colour used by ArtRage. If your canvas is smaller than the ArtRage window, select the colour you want and Alt/Option-Click the background. The default colour is white.
Painting Name: Added the name of your current painting to the titlebar of the ArtRage window.
Spacebar Move & Rotate: The Spacebar can now be used to move the canvas. Hold the spacebar down and left click/drag to move the canvas. When you release the spacebar, your selected tool will work again. To rotate the canvas, hold down the spacebar then the Alt/Option key and left click/drag the canvas.
Multi-User Support: Changed how ArtRage stores its registration and user preference information so that multiple user accounts on one machine will have easier access to the application.
Larger Tool Sizes: Added the ability to 'oversize' tools. When you single click the tool size preview you are prompted to enter a percentage value for the tool size. You can now manually enter sizes up to 500%. You can stil only use the standard size preview slide functionality to reach 100%, but some users had requested larger tools. Please note, you may experience some unusual behaviour in tools over 100%, we do not suggest using this feature unless you are working on extremely large documents.

[LoTekK]

Man, the new feature set and tweaks look awesome! The dry brush is just what I've been looking for. :thumbsup:

[Spin99]

Excuse me while I indulge in the sweet intoxicating smell of oils, linseed, resin and turpetine..
*Snifffffffffffffffffffff*

But ok I'll buy Artrage too sometime

[Per-Anders]

ah sweet! now all it needs is tablet tilt support for the pencil and to optionally control the angle of the palette knife and brushes. :)

[paintbox]

Sweet! Great update...love the drybrush! The spacebar is also a great addition, simple but effective.

*Runs off to the Daily Sketch Group with new Toy*

[danielh68]

The new updates are great, especially the dry brush and the flipping function. I would have never thought there would be enough room for another painting program, but I find myself using Art Rage more and more. A very cool app which I hope they keep improving upon.

[Art2]

Another update available.
ArtRage Full Version 2.11 Update

This solves the alt+spacebar rotate problem.

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