Character | Niko

[Eugeny]

Some bump and color textures applied...
still working on it , going too sloooow :)

[quinox]

sweet... the ears look a bit funny (btw a mirrored version of the face isn't much useful now is it? ^_^)

[Eugeny]

It's not so mirrored ... just compare small details. I have may be 10 poly that still symmetrical :)

[Eugeny]

Almost finished textures ...

[Eugeny]

and another side ...

[Maximus Groff]

Man... this guy is bad bad bad ugly ...

Improve the forehead lines of expression..

[Ramzes_II]

Hehe, Very cool face, I love his expression and the Eyes...
At first look his face is seemed to be squashed, But then again, It' look just fine :D

The texture Looks Good.

Will There be more Updates ? Good Luck !

[Maximus Groff]

I mean ugly as his looks, not the technique - wich is great...
;)

How old is he supposed to be ?

[Eugeny]

Thanx for the comments guys :)
How old is he supposed to be ?

The actor that used for the model is 45 - 50 years old ... I think my guy is bit yanger 40 - 45 ...

[Psyhke]

Great job!

The nose needs a little something, I think. It's to perfectly smooth, or something.

[Kaiser_Sose]

Eugeny,

That is really sweet

Hope to learn allot from you ;)

[Eugeny]

Thanx guys :)

Psyke - u are right i will add some little bumps on nose area.

Kaiser - no problem ;) check your PM ...

[gfx]

I think he's generally too shiny, especially the ear.

[wgreenlee1]

Very cool stuff!!!
The moderators should put this up on the header for the CGTalk intro_page....hint,hint.:thumbsup:

[Eugeny]

Ok guys here is the less specularity ear :)
Also i lowered a bit overall specularity ...
Still him lack more color variations, and i still not painted lips :hmm:
Hope u will like it.

[Kaiser_Sose]

Originally posted by wgreenlee1

The moderators should put this up on the header for the CGTalk intro_page....hint,hint.:thumbsup:

Yes, it is a conspiracy I tell ya

[sherban]

ooh...
nice going Eugeny. Really nice. I especially like the pockmarks on his cheeks. Nice definition around the eyes too.

crits:
the pockmark area seems to fade out. Maybe make it over a smaller area. he's got some on the chin folds - those could go.

the eyelids seem to be floating over his eyes - casting a heavy shadow.

the top of the ear (where it connects to the head) seems kinda weird.

The corner of his mouth is bothering me too.

And add some pores (BIG PORES :D ) on his nose.

and color variation, but you know that.

:thumbsup:

[Eugeny]

Thanx for crits Sherban :thumbsup:
I'm planing to take some graphic tablet from "Adventure" (my job) for some "short" time :)
Hope it's will help me to add some new details.

[Eugeny]

Ok ... Nose pores :)

[Eugeny]

More color variations and lips are added .
Time to remodel eye balls ...
Need crits please ...


Edit* WhoooHooo my 1000 post :bounce:

[Kaiser_Sose]

The skin color is much better but it seems like he has some nasty razor burn

Eugeny, when you re - model those awesome eyes press record on camtasia :buttrock: :wavey: :buttrock: :wavey:

[Eugeny]

Remodeled eyes ...
Damn i can't decide that is better, previous eyes (with small iris but with huge amount of personality) or these eyes (that technically more right modeled but without the personality) :hmm:

Kaiser - i use combination of Inside LW book technique and this (http://www.icreativesolutions.com/tuts/basiceye.htm) tutorial ... The only one think i added - it's one UV and one map for eyeball and iris ...

[leigh]

Awesome WIP so far, Eugeny :thumbsup:

I must say, I prefer the first eyes :)

Have you added a spec map yet? Because you need to adjust the specularity on his lips. They should be a little shinier than the rest of the face. Also the tip of the nose and the areas just below the eyes tend to have a different specularity.

His cheeks - are those acne scars? If so, then the skin there should have more of a scarlike quality. Perhaps make the pitted areas slightly more shiny, and with a slightly white sheen on them.

The creases where his nostrils meet his cheeks needs a bit of work. If you look at most peoples faces, you'll notice that the skin in this area often tends to be a bit reddish in colour, and is also often quite dry and slightly pitted.

Add a gloss map to his eyelids to make them look wet ;)

Because this is a male, you should make the beard areas slightly rougher. This guy looks like he isn't very young, so his skin is likely to be pretty rough where he has been shaving for years and years. The pores in these areas are a bit larger and you should perhaps show some mild trace of a beard - a "9 o'clock shadow". Most mens faces will have a slightly uneven re-growth of hair within a few hours of shaving, since it is rather difficult to get a perfectly even shave.

These are just some ideas that I think will add nicely to your otherwise very cool WIP :)

He has great character - I love the expression!

[Facial Deluxe]

First eyes. I like the little vein. But the reddish around the second eyes is cool but I would softent it abit, more progressive.
It's getting really good, keep up !:bounce:

[Eugeny]

Wow ! Thanx Leigh :) (finally u saw this :bounce: )
looks like i have lot of work on this dude ...
I don't have any idea how i can make skin looks more dry - secularity and glossiness ? I'm already use glossiness map but its the same map as specular so u right it's time to make new one (for cheeks and eye lids areas especially)

Facial - thanx for helping, i'll make new texture for previous eyes with more reddish ...
Thank u guys,
Eugeny.

[Cman]

Looks great! :bounce:
Very accurate to your references. Great great job. :)
The only thing to me is the creases along the eyebrow look too sharp to me, like chisel from wood. But it is not terrible.

[Eugeny]

The remodeled old eyes and glossiness map ... Also i changed the specular on lips and eye lids.

[Infinity3d4life]

super work Eugeny

[leigh]

Originally posted by Eugeny
Wow ! Thanx Leigh :) (finally u saw this :bounce: )
looks like i have lot of work on this dude ...
I don't have any idea how i can make skin looks more dry - secularity and glossiness ? I'm already use glossiness map but its the same map as specular so u right it's time to make new one (for cheeks and eye lids areas especially)


Hmm... to make the skin appear drier, I would use a combination of specularity, glossiness )these two being qauite subtle though), and a very very delicate use of bump. Making the bump map in these areas ever so slightly rougher will hopefully break up the light in such a way as to make it seem drier.

A tip: Having your gloss map and your spec map the same isn't a great idea. You are right that you should redo this, especially since gloss is quite a different effect ;)

[element412]

great job so far.
try giving us some other angles..
i also think u need a better lighting setup. go see stlabherg (outch thats not write..) tutorial on 3dfestival.com. its great.

isn't his neck a bit too big??

element

[gfx]

hrm, it's getting better and better, but it looks like there's some texture streaching around his nose (near the nostril / cheek crease)

and his head's kinda chunky too, are you going to smooth that out a bit more?

[RPG2006]

It's easy to crit I know. Excellent work for a first attempt.

I can't see the mesh but Around the wrinklage on the forehead I would seperate the points abit to create a smoother more rounded effect. The wrinkles are little to sharp looking at the moment.

In addition, and I know it creates an effect, the upper eyelid looks like they doesn't fit the eyeball shape correctly. I would be tempted to pull it in abit to fit.

Just thoughts, other than that great work and keep at it.

Oh and maybe just abit of facial hair. Give sas a blast.

[Eugeny]

Thanx for crits guys

Originally posted by Leigh
A tip: Having your gloss map and your spec map the same isn't a great idea. You are right that you should redo this, especially since gloss is quite a different effect ;)

Well i started to mess with glossiness map (see pic on previous page). I'll change the bump for cheeks areas thanx for tips.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by element412
try giving us some other angles..
i also think u need a better lighting setup. go see stlabherg (outch thats not write..) tutorial on 3dfestival.com. its great.

isn't his neck a bit too big??

I'm work with two main angels (from left and right) - in this way mach more easy to see texture changes, the same thing for the light setup - because i 'm on texturing stage now i'm trying to not mess with different light setups - i use one key light (area) and 9 % ambient. Then the texturing will done i will put some other light testes (already i tested this dude with HDRI lighting looks great).
About a neck - the guy is bit fat and i'm not going to build the body - this piece of neck is that we will see then i complete his wear ( some heavy sweater and lather mail).

Orinally posted by CgFreak
Just put a mask on it and call it fat batman.

He he , i prefer mad butcher role for him :D

Orinally posted by gfx
it looks like there's some texture streaching around his nose (near the nostril / cheek crease)

and his head's kinda chunky too, are you going to smooth that out a bit more?

U damn right about the stretching - unfortunately i was needed to recreate his UV on Body Paint. See the pic on first page there i added some textures and bump maps, i was wondering why the hell maps not working , after hundreds of maps tweaking i fount that problem not in maps - it's broken UV. It was one point that placed aside from all UV's but contain all 2000 points data ! (i think it's happened after few unweld and merge operations ). :annoyed: So i decided to remodel UV on Body Paint using previous UV as a template, unfortunately its have some imperfections - that's why u see some stretches. There is nothing to do with this - may be i'll erase bump on this areas.
Can u describe that u mean chunky head ?

Orinally posted by mrbean
I can't see the mesh but Around the wrinklage on the forehead I would seperate the points abit to create a smoother more rounded effect. The wrinkles are little to sharp looking at the moment.

In addition, and I know it creates an effect, the upper eyelid looks like they doesn't fit the eyeball shape correctly. I would be tempted to pull it in abit to fit.

Just thoughts, other than that great work and keep at it.

Oh and maybe just abit of facial hair. Give sas a blast.

I think it's because the lighting ... Anyway it's too late to make changes for the mesh ( i don't wanna mess with UV's anymore).
About the eyelid - yes u right but if i make the eyelid fit the eyeball him looks sooo different , and him loose the personality (:thumbsdow ), so i decided to remodel the eyeballs but not the eyelids.
About a hair - yes i planing to make some brows and moustaches (may be) but only then i will be happy with textures.

Thanx for crits guys it's really help me :thumbsup:

[Eugeny]

Some sasquatch ...
I'm still working on it.

[RPG2006]

It's looking great so far. Good work!!

[BiTMAP]

it still has a very CG look to it though :S

[Julez4001]

Don't give up...looking good, man.

[Eugeny]

Update...

[Eugeny]

from other side ...

[Mickeloviche]

I think the ears may be too far from the eyes.
Very nice work so far though!

Mickeloviche

[MaskTX]

Krasavec Muzhchina! Emu volos v nosu ne hvataet :p

[Eugeny]

Originally posted by MaskTX
Krasavec Muzhchina! Emu volos v nosu ne hvataet :p

He he , v ushah toze :thumbsup:

[Katarzis_o]

Hi Eugeny!!!
Its Kfir how r u man???
saw your work looking great!!!
:buttrock:

[Eugeny]

Hi Kfir nice to see u here :)

[Eugeny]

Mustaches ...

[Eugeny]

I'm not really sure about them, just some version of face with mustaches...

[proton]

Really coming together....great work!

[Facial Deluxe]

Great great :bounce:

[Eugeny]

Thanx guys :) I'm just watched some film with this actor (prototype of my model) and found that him have some different stile of mustaches ... So here is an update.

[Eugeny]

Hitler ?!!! Why? :sad:
Then i worked on mustaches i get some Hitler like images but i definitely not trying to make that bastard :mad:

[Cman]

Bah!
He looks great! :D
I still think the wrinkles betwen the eyebrows and on the forehead are a bit chiseled and sharp - but overall it's awesome.

[Merlin]

Looks great! The ear is really bothering me though... I think it's positioned too far back.... maybe not... I don't know, there's something wrong there. Even so, it's a great model. Nice work,

Neal

[Eugeny]

Originally posted by Merlin
Looks great! The ear is really bothering me though... I think it's positioned too far back.... maybe not... I don't know, there's something wrong there. Even so, it's a great model. Nice work,

Neal
Here is the side view of real actor -used for this model...

[Eugeny]

... and here is side view of my model, as u see i made ear mach closer to the center then ear of real one :shrug:

[Eugeny]

Don't worry i'm not taking this too personal :)
Thanx for the good words :beer:

[cuse]

oh my gosh. how good is this?¿?

just fantastic work... :scream: :surprised :scream:




cuse

[Eugeny]

:shrug:
Thanx :) unfortunately i don't have a time to continue with him ...

[Eugeny]

Little update - eyelashes are added (also i changed a bit the overall sus settings).

[Eugeny]

Another side ... (damn 30 k JPG eat all details)

[Annuostivix]

that's really good, though the marks on his cheek should be more detailed or something. Unless your jpg settings did that, or actually, it could be this terrible moniter. You did a really good job anyways, it has a lot of character

[Eugeny]

Thanx Aerestis :)

Some new view (more opened camera) and different lighting ...

[Eugeny]

Here is some close up's for eye area...

[Eugeny]

... sasqutch really suck in close up's :(

[Eugeny]

Finally i have some time to play with him ...

Here is some first attempt of different camera and lighting.


http://www.geocities.com/chuchae2002/Junk/Picture_37.txt


I'm also added some expressions of sadness


http://www.geocities.com/chuchae2002/Junk/Sadness.txt


I'll add more expressions like anger, joy, fear, disgust and surprise - each of these will have sub expressions.

Oh, b.t.w the model still don't have teethes, tangle and inside mouth texture.

Hope u will like :)

[Facial Deluxe]

Hey coming along very well :bounce:
Keep it up !

[Eugeny]

Thanx Deluxe :thumbsup:
If any one interesting on good facial expressions reference here is (http://www-viz.tamu.edu/students/amyt/v617/research.html) the link ...

[Facial Deluxe]

Cool link, thank you for that :thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

great Charachter it looks like a Rusia mafia bodyguard :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see more expressions

[Steve Warner]

Outstanding work, Eugeny! :beer: As always, you are an inspiration to me. :thumbsup:

Take care!

Steve

[Eugeny]

Ok some lighting changing ...

http://www.geocities.com/chuchae2002/Junk/Picture_38.txt

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