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Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 10:44 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW-011-Announcement.jpg

This workshop is open to any medium and any style. Some informal moderation
will be gladly provided by Rebecca Kimmel ~ however, the purpose of the
Workshop is for Artists to interact with and informally critique one another’s work.

Ron Eyre is a longtime Artist and Model who has contributed his pictures to the Figure Drawing Factory run by Model Ben Miller. Ron has a diversity of interests which include Art
Creation and Instruction, Model Ship Building, Fellwalking, Morris Dancing, Folk Music, and
Gardening. Ron has generously volunteered to provide the OFDWs with his beautiful and
artistic model photographs / self~portraits. Visit Ron’s website at: http://www.eyrebrush.free-online.co.uk/MainFrame.html


Welcome to the ELEVENTH thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!!!


>>>Click HERE for Ron Eyre's Artistic Website<<< (http://www.eyrebrush.free-online.co.uk/MainFrame.html)

>>>Click HERE for Hong Ly's Character Design Website<<< (http://www.characterdesigns.com/)

>>RULES FOR THE THREADS<<


1. Photographs are the property of Ron Eyre and Hong Ly respectively and are copyrighted as such.

2. Photographs are NOT to be used for ANY other purpose apart from Figurative Drawing Reference for this thread on CGTalk.

3. The drawings created from the photo reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL, SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately
and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread. Ron Eyre, Rebecca Kimmel, and Roberto Ortiz reserve the right to determine which drawings are considered to be in poor taste and / or disrespectful to the model/s, who have generously agreed to allow their images to be used on the condition that they be used for the tasteful and serious study of Figurative Art only.

4. There is NO TIME LIMIT for posting on this thread.

5. New threads containing new photographs will be posted on a bi-weekly basis, depending on the number of photographs available.

6. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished.

7. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.

8. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique ~ however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :)

9. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.

10. EDIT: 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so. I just ask that you post your work here as well as in any 3D forum in which you post your work.

11. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

12. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :)

LINKS to Photographs: WARNING: Nudity:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_01.jpg)MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 1 ~ Female Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_01.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_02.jpg) MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 2 ~ Female Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_02.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 3 ~ Female Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_03.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 4 ~ Ron Eyre, Male Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_04.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 5 ~ Ron Eyre, Male Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_05.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 6 ~ Ron Eyre, Male Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_06.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 7 ~ Ron Eyre, Male Model, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/OFDW011_07.jpg)

PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. Please DO post WIP images as you work on your pieces. :)

Good luck! :)



~Rebeccak, Ron Eyre and Hong Ly

rblitz7
01-08-2006, 11:02 PM
Awesome! I think I might give this one a shot!:scream:

Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 11:05 PM
rblitz7,

As the first poster, you are obligated to participate! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

rblitz7
01-08-2006, 11:09 PM
hehe dont worry Rebecca, I will!:D

Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 11:17 PM
Rock on! :D

Amerasu
01-08-2006, 11:55 PM
Great pics! These models are wonderful - thank you :)

That first female one reminds me of an old master pose. It's gorgeous.

Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 11:57 PM
Amerasu,

Yep, Hong's pictures are really excellent! A big thanks to him and to Ron Eyre for the great references. :)

Definitely looking forward to your participation in this one!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-09-2006, 07:58 AM
I'm trying to speed up. 30 minutes, wacom. Next time I'll pay more attention to proportions. Lots of things are wrong, I know, but I'll try to improve them in my next painting.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6260/male0dx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mu
01-09-2006, 09:46 AM
xillion - why not improve them in this painting? There's so many things right about this sketch that it would definitely be worth a second and a third round of refining...:)

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 09:49 AM
Xillion,

I second the motion! Unless perhaps you wanted to do all of the poses as short ones, and then refine a single painting? Of course, that's totally up to you. Great to see you have you on board! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 10:04 AM
Lolo,

First, good morning! :)

Second ~ very nice piece in OFDW 010. :) My computer is acting strange and not allowing me to post to certain threads ~ can't post a reply there this morning, nor to Gunie's for the last 3 days. :cry:

At any rate, just thought I'd reply here since my posting quota seems to be limited to certain threads these days, lol. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
01-09-2006, 10:10 AM
At any rate, just thought I'd reply here since my posting quota seems to be limited to certain threads these days, lol


seems as if the postcount establishment finally agreed on secret technical countermeasures to ensure their supremacy:scream:

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 10:17 AM
Holy lord! I didn't realize I was close to 8,000 :eek: ~ gotta go reread that CGTalk manual! :D

Xillion
01-09-2006, 10:30 AM
I think I'll try painting this again then. I was also intrigued by some girl's poses, so given time, I'll try do do both. MrMu and Rebeccak thanks for your replies!!!

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 10:34 AM
Xillion,

Sounds great! :) We like to reply here. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
01-09-2006, 11:50 AM
Lolo,

First, good morning! :)
Morning Beckie... this new OFDW sounds already great of quality... I can't wait to see more masterpieces here...

Congratulations Xillion... for 30 mn... it's really good... well feeling with your piece :thumbsup:

SaraD
01-09-2006, 12:12 PM
Yesss! I can leave the old poses to their destiny, and take on these new ones :bounce:

Cīya all soon!

Xillion
01-09-2006, 12:34 PM
lemog: Thanks!

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 01:36 PM
Let's go, SaraD! :bounce:

Ego
01-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Wow those are some awesome poses. And I love the lighting a lot this time around.

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 04:02 PM
See above comment for SaraD! Come on Queenie...no high Florentine fees for this baby ~ get on board! :)

Cheers, ;)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-09-2006, 04:03 PM
See above comment for SaraD! Come on Queenie...no high Florentine fees for this baby ~ get on board! :)

Cheers, ;)

~Rebeccak
You know it girl!

Xillion
01-09-2006, 10:14 PM
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9568/sketch2ke.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 10:26 PM
Xillion,

Great to see your new piece! I would suggest putting in a darker toned bkgrd ~ something rather darker than her skin ~ so that you are better able to see your value relationships. The basic proportions are looking good. Now that you have the basics roughed out, I would suggest going in with a soft brush with a low opacity, and sampling some of your existing colors (alt + clicking / sampling colors of the canvas when in brush mode) and then beginning to blend using your low opacity brush and sampled colors. Looking forward to your next update! :)

Everyone,

Check out Amerasu's great new Digital Painting Tutorial, which should be quite useful in the context of these Workshops especially:

TUTORIAL - Digital Anatomy Painting by Amerasu (Nudity) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=308311)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=308311

Many thanks to Amerasu for putting together a great tutorial! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-09-2006, 10:33 PM
lool...poor me! And I thought It was done...ok...I'll try to work it a little bit more tomorrow...if I have time. this is a small animated gif of the process so far (very different tecnique from the other one)...

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8840/sketchnew3ju.gif (http://imageshack.us)

and here is the link to the big (full work size) version

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4471/sketchanimbig2ci.th.gif (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sketchanimbig2ci.gif)

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Xillion,

Hehe, it's not so easy as that! :D Great to see the animation! In truth, I think that if you put in a darker background, it would improve this piece by a lot! Looking forward to your update! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Vidar3d
01-10-2006, 04:12 AM
Xillion - Sweet animation. Always fun to see the process develop right before my eyes.

I haven't started yet in earnest. Here is a warm-up I did. Just a quick set of 3 minute gestures for each pose so I can decide which one I am "feeling" the best. The temptation to draw a beautiful model with a sword is almost overwhelming at this point but we'll see how I feel in the morning.

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/gestures-11.jpg

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 05:56 AM
Vidar3d,

Nice to see the warm~ups! :)

Here is my first WIP:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron2.jpg

MechaHateChimp
01-10-2006, 06:23 AM
Man I havent even finished t he last one! I need more days in a week :)

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 06:30 AM
Mecha,

No worries. :) All OFDW remain open indefinitely. Post to any so long as you like. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 06:40 AM
WIP 2:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron3.jpg

SaraD
01-10-2006, 07:20 AM
:banghead::cry:

Canīt find the time....

mark-jenkins
01-10-2006, 07:27 AM
This is about 2 hours work. I have struggled a bit with this pose. I know its still a long way off but this is a WIP thread so here goes.

xillion: great job, love the animation

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-1.jpg

Xillion
01-10-2006, 08:08 AM
Marco J: nice work!

Just in case anyone was curious...these are the steps I followed to make the animated gif with Photoshop CS2:


Painted in layers, there are 23 layers in my original image. Start from the sketch layer, underpaint (sort of) layer, multiple layers (as a general rule they are painted from dark values to light values) ... painting in layers can be useful for various reasons (that I don't explain here).
Inside photoshop CS2, open the Animation palette and the Layers palette. Make all the layers invisible (clicking on the eye icon of a layer in the layer palette)
Render visible the next invisible layer (starting from the bottom, just click again the eye icon of the layer in the layer palette)
in the animation palette click the "Duplicate selected frames" icon (It is represented by a white page). You can choose how much time the current frame will be seen on screen selecting the appropriate voice from the pull down menu that is accessible with the black triangle under every frame in the frame palette
repeat steps 2.1 ans 2.2 until all layers are visible

Choose save for the web (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+s on a PC with default shortcut settings). Choose the gif format opions you like. Click save. Choose a name for the final product. Confirm.
Locate your gif and test it !(your browser should be able to display animated gifs, some other programs just don't), if it doesn't work it was probably my fault :)
Congratulations!
I hope this was clear, If some steps of the process I described are wrong (made it from memory), incomplete or just need more explanations just tell me an I'll correct the post.

ps.: there is also the possibility to save in Macromedia flash format (produces and swf file via the export command in Photoshop) but, in my case, the result was affected by strange artifacts.

Lemog
01-10-2006, 09:13 AM
:banghead::cry:

Canīt find the time....
Don't worry girl... you're not the only one -> :banghead: :scream: hahahaha tic-tac tic-tac :cry:

SaraD
01-10-2006, 09:20 AM
*LOL* Lemog - Itīs not that I donīt feel sorry for you and your head, re --->:banghead:, but it sure feels good to have company!
:buttrock:

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 11:20 AM
SaraD and Lolo,

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! :cry:

Xillion,

Thanks for the gif tips! :thumbsup:

Marco J,

Great start! WIP welcome, indeed! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-10-2006, 12:03 PM
Xillion,

... I would suggest going in with a soft brush with a low opacity, and sampling some of your existing colors (alt + clicking / sampling colors of the canvas when in brush mode) and then beginning to blend using your low opacity brush and sampled colors...

Should I use a big brush ? or a textured brush ? or the plain old hard round ?

Corvax
01-10-2006, 12:04 PM
SaraD and Lemog:

too bad..:sad: I have really been enjoy the both of you guys paintings in past workshops.. but its understandable, I'm finding it harder to squeeze the workshops in lately too.

Rebeccak:
its always fun to watch you paintings progress and not only because you post a LOT of wips but also the way it seems to focus in like if your adjust the focal plane of your camera... its kinda cool, and quite skillfully done :thumbsup: .

So when are you gonna tell us more about this new workshop/course your doing?

And to end it off a little tiny drawing from me. I know its bad, but I was kinda on a time budget here so dont expecting too much of me :shrug: .

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/ofdw_011_pose_01_painting.jpg

~David René

Mu
01-10-2006, 01:36 PM
Hey RebeccaK,

my daughter(4) when watching your wip while I scrolled through the thread: "that is totally supey..."

it loses in the translation, I guess... but feel flattered.

mark-jenkins
01-10-2006, 01:43 PM
Another couple of hours maybe. (quiet day at work, he he)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-2.jpg

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Orig posted by Xillion: Should I use a big brush ? or a textured brush ? or the plain old hard round ?
Any brush you want! :) Check out Amerasu's Tutorial, it's really great (link earlier in this thread). I use a soft round airbrush, but lots of people like the sharper/harder brush settings ~ whatever you feel most comfortable with is best, but I like the soft brushes due to the ability to really nicely blend strokes. :)

Orig posted by David René: SaraD and Lemog:

too bad... I have really been enjoy the both of you guys paintings in past workshops.. but its understandable, I'm finding it harder to squeeze the workshops in lately too.
Hopefully these two guys will be back at least for commenting! :bounce:And maybe later participation...:D

Rebeccak:
its always fun to watch you paintings progress and not only because you post a LOT of wips but also the way it seems to focus in like if your adjust the focal plane of your camera... its kinda cool, and quite skillfully done.
Thanks very much! :) I appreciate your comments. :)

So when are you gonna tell us more about this new workshop/course your doing?
Very soon, thank you for asking! :)

Orig posted by Mr. Mu: my daughter(4) when watching your wip while I scrolled through the thread: "that is totally supey..."

it loses in the translation, I guess... but feel flattered.
That's so cool, Mr. Mu! Thanks for telling me that! I feel *supey* inside...:scream:

Looking forward to seeing everyone's work when I get home! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-10-2006, 03:32 PM
I found out how to set the framerate... I updated the procedure given on the previous message and updated the gif with a slower version.

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Xillion,

Sweet, thanks for the graphics tips! Any more you've got, bring 'em on! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-10-2006, 04:25 PM
I started some blending. I'm doing the blend without looking at the actual reference right now...so forgive me if something goes off...there also are some greys left out from previous background. I think I'll take care of them later.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/329/sketch2blending9rb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SaraD
01-10-2006, 08:03 PM
I found some time, and this is a perfect way to spend it :p

Itīs a bit of an odd backgroundcolor on this one, I know, but I do actually have a scene for this one :eek: so Iīm going for that colorscheme from the beginning.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_001.jpg

Rebeccak
01-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Yeah, SaraD! :bounce:

Looking forward to checkin' out your work. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Vidar3d
01-10-2006, 08:59 PM
Cool SaraD. Ah ok you did a mirror image of the reference? very cool. did you choose to do that for a specific reason? Was it easier to draw the gesture that way? Or did you just do cause you like the composition better that way? Just curious.

SaraD
01-10-2006, 09:05 PM
Vidar3d, Iīm gonna try to paint an enviroment to this one, and since I donīt want her to point us "out" of the painting, I mirrored her. I think that was the reason :rolleyes:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_002.JPG

Xillion
01-10-2006, 10:09 PM
SaraD: this is beautiful!
ps.: a question: What is the full size resolution of the image you are working on?

SpiritDreamer
01-10-2006, 10:28 PM
Hi Rebecca and everyone
Going in a different direction for these figures
Trying to get a handle on these fancy water color brushes in Painter 9
Used water color fine palette knife for this one.
Just trying out something new and different.
Experimenting agian.
Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_11_6.jpg

rblitz7
01-11-2006, 01:25 AM
Gah!:argh: Im such a slow poke! I feel so silly posting this but here is my quick sketch. I mainly see problems in the torso but please point out any of the other mistakes.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6568/ofdw116kq.jpg

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 02:09 AM
Well, guys... :)

My new Workshop has been announced:

CGWorkshop: Figuratively Speaking - Analyzing the Human Form (http://workshops.cgsociety.org/courses/000014/)
http://workshops.cgsociety.org/courses/000014/

I'm super excited! I'm hoping the best for the course. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 06:42 AM
A small update from me...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_05.jpg

SaraD
01-11-2006, 06:58 AM
SaraD: this is beautiful!
ps.: a question: What is the full size resolution of the image you are working on?

4200x3000 px at 300 dpi.

Lemog
01-11-2006, 07:19 AM
Beckie -> little but very promising :thumbsup:


Sara -> few months ago, beckie give me the council to work with that kind of big resolution... and effectively, that change all... better way to detailed... it's also the reason I really appreciate your very precise work :applause:


Glenn -> Much originality with this piece... I have always much pleasure to see your tests of style, very interesting and inspiring... :bounce:


Xillion -> I like the shape you give to your model, really different but so good...

Xillion
01-11-2006, 09:14 AM
Lemog: thanks, I'll try to get back on track (reach likeness) after I finish the first blending pass, I'll pick up the reference again at that time. I don't plan to develop her face (I always and quite only paint faces in traditional media) so I'll just stick with her body.

The real problem with my drawings/paintings is that I get bored very soon. So I need to learn a fast/realistic tecnique or just learn to have patience...this workshop is shelping me a lot to focused!

SaraD: thanks for the previous answer and...another question: do you start with print size resolution or start small and then upres ?

SaraD
01-11-2006, 09:16 AM
SaraD: thanks for the previous answer and...another question: do you start with print size resolution or start small and then upres ?

I start at highres, between 200-300 dpi. I might crop or expand the canvas, but use the same resolution through the whole process.

Xillion
01-11-2006, 09:20 AM
many thanks, looking forward your next update! :arteest: (sorry for the icon, but I thought ti was cool! ^_^ )

Lemog
01-11-2006, 09:23 AM
The real problem with my drawings/paintings is that I get bored very soon. So I need to learn a fast/realistic tecnique or just learn to have patience...this workshop is shelping me a lot to focused!
I know well this problem... oddly... I can work for a long time on a 3d creation... but not in 2d... :beer:

Zephyri
01-11-2006, 11:58 AM
Hi Rebecca.. sorry I've not been in here lately! I plan to remedy this very soon! I have a question. I was planning on entering the Aphrodisia contest over at Aristata Publishing (http://www.aristatapublishing.com/) and I would dearly love to use one of the photos Hong has generously provided as a reference. I'd be very happy to share the progress of the piece over the next couple of weeks here in this thread in return, and if the piece should get anywhere in the contest, I would request that there be a link to Hong's website, at least, if not a more honourable mention. These pictures always create such wonderful visions for me, I'll more than likely do something for the thread, but knowing whether this would be okay will affect the level of work I put in. My thanks in advance.

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 01:10 PM
Zepyhri,

The message I include in the beginning of these OFDW threads about not using Hong's images outside of this is probably at this point unnecessary ~ really, I included it more or less to encourage people to post their work here. However, Hong has all of his models sign agreements which basically makes the images his property ~ the models do not control their use. I of course would never wish to see the models or their images disrespected in any way, but of course somelike like you is never going to do that! Hong has all of these images on his website, and they are meant to be used as Artistic Reference ~ so doing what you propose is just that! :)

Best of luck in the competition!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 01:21 PM
Damn, i wanna jump in, but im sure ill totally suck at this

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 01:28 PM
zng-Y,

Definitely jump in! It's not a matter of how good you are now, it's a matter of how much you want to improve. :)

I wasn't able to respond much in~depth yesterday to anyone's posts, but it looks like everyone is doing a really terrific job ~ I always learn so much from everyone, thanks for all the hard work! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-11-2006, 01:31 PM
zng-Y,

Definitely jump in! It's not a matter of how good you are now, it's a matter of how much you want to improve. :)

And how much fun you wanna have :buttrock: Come on - join us!

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 01:38 PM
Orig posted by SaraD: And how much fun you wanna have :buttrock: Come on - join us!
*crowd puts peer pressure on zng-Y* ~ Well, it's decided then. :wise: You are joining us. :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-11-2006, 01:41 PM
*crowd puts peer pressure on zng-Y* ~ Well, it's decided then. :wise: You are joining us. :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

*LOL* thatīs democracy - we decide, you obey...

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 01:53 PM
well this makes it easy for me to decide huh *obeying* :scream::D

Darn, i still got major problems drawing with this cheap-ass tablet :(
sketch - 10 min - (How do you guys start? I dont habe a 2nd screen atm, so it's a bit confusing to me when im working on the sketch/proportions. After all i could draw this sketch.)

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/anatomy-female1.jpg

mark-jenkins
01-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Well another quiet day at work which means more time for my new obsession, OFDW!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-3.jpg

Xillion
01-11-2006, 02:08 PM
...How do you guys start? I dont habe a 2nd screen atm, so it's a bit confusing to me when im working on the sketch/proportions..


you can setup your worskpace as follows (CS2):


open your reference: ctrl+o
double the canvas width (if the width of the image is greater than its height double its height instead): image->Canvas size-> width 200% (or height 200%),Anchor

the current contents on the top left corner, click ok.
make a new layer: shift+ctrl+n (so that you don't ruin your reference in any way)
go fullscreen: press the F key until you have maximized your workspace (that is, two times)
paint.
ps.: while in fullscreen mode it can be useful to learn a few shortcuts. the most useful are:


while holding the spacebar, click on the image to move it around
b: brush, e: eraser, keys from 0 to 9: opacity settings
ctrl++ ctrl+-: zoom in and zoom out
ctrl+alt+z: undo

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 02:11 PM
thanks! :D

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 02:12 PM
Now that we've convinced zng-Y, I can't look at his work til later! :cry: Glad you've joined us though! :applause:

Marco J,

Obsess away! :D

SaraD,

Indeed, LOL! :D

Xillion,

Great tips!! Keep 'em coming! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-11-2006, 02:23 PM
SaraD....That's Democracy..We decide,..You Obey...That's a Classsssic...can't stop laughing..

That last one your working on is really BEAUTIFUL...Are you going to show us the setting
your putting her into...just curious..would like to see it...:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

mark-jenkins
01-11-2006, 02:27 PM
Here are a few shortcuts that I use all the time when I paint in addition to the ones already mentioned by xillion.

Brush size increase - close bracket ]
Brush size decrease - open bracket [
Brush hardness increase - shift close bracket ]
Brush hardness decrease - shift open bracket [
smudge tool - R
hide tools and pallettes - tab key

Hope this helps.

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 02:29 PM
Marco J,

Always great to get tips, thanks! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

mark-jenkins
01-11-2006, 03:12 PM
and on to the next one.
Help me, I can't stop!!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-4.jpg

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 03:13 PM
Orig posted by Marco J: and on to the next one.
Help me, I can't stop!!
L O L...:scream:

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 03:40 PM
Well another quiet day at work which means more time for my new obsession, OFDW!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-3.jpg

BEAUTIFUL !!! :love:

Zephyri
01-11-2006, 05:12 PM
Righto... thank you for letting me know Rebecca, I'm stoked about entering, and I'd had such a great idea from one of Hong's photos. I'd not realised he puts them on his website for that purpose.. *duh*.

So here's a tentative beginning, I've been experimenting lately with colour, cg and skintones, so this is another step, working with sunset-ish and stormy colours, two of my favourite things. It's a persona created around my screen name, zephyri (spelt wrong here on CGTalk, cause I was sloppy when signing up), working with female form, wind, storms and fluidity.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/aphrodisia.jpg

And not shunning some interaction, I've got to say I'm so impressed with the level of work here, Marco J, your rendering abilities are beautiful, lovely use of subtle purple in the shadows. If I had to nitpick, I'd say the shadow on her toes could use a little work, as it's making her feet look a bit rubbery, and that her calf muscle on the right hand side pokes out a little too much, but its a small crit. I actually really love that quick black and white more than your finished piece too, there's more spontenaeity and suggestion in it.

zng-y... I can't sketch on a wacom for the life in me either (specially if you're using a small one, it's nigh on impossible), so I start by blocking in a silhouette of the form and use the eraser and a hard edged paintbrush to 'sculpt' the lines. I've found this way i pay much less attention to unimportant detail early on, and if you get your foundations blocks right, the rest tends to fit in much more easily.

SaraD... wow... that rendering is amazing, I'd love to see a larger version of it, and can't wait to see what you have in mind for a scene. It seems that picture is quite the inspiration!

Spirit Dreamer, that's a curious work, it almost looks like an xray overlaid on top of a pencil sketch.. I've not picked up the courage to use the watercolour in Painter yet... the lack of definition scares the pants off me. :D

Rebecca.. it's interesting to see your work style digitally, I hardly ever work with soft brushes, but you've created a rather lovely style with them.. makes me want to try it.

Xillion, I've always loved watching animated progress of another artist, and your color choices are quite muted, which works well over the whole piece

Corvax, lovely pencil work, the roughness in her body is gorgeous. Her left breast is a little high up or could do with filling out a bit more(I only notice as I did the same thing in the early stages of my own work), and it would have been lovely to have seen a more gestural approach to her facial features to fit with the rest of the sketch, her eye is a bit sharp in comparison. But that's pesonal preference for me.

Phew! Sorry.. essay over, just trying to make up for lost time... :D

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 05:41 PM
Omg, i'm such an ass! When i wanted to save my sketch for posting it here on cgtalk i made my image smaller (800x...) and saved it , as result that i had to work on a image of 800x... LOOOOL stupid me :D

Zephyri - Nice colors! love it :love:
zng-y... I can't sketch on a wacom for the life in me either (specially if you're using a small one, it's nigh on impossible), so I start by blocking in a silhouette of the form and use the eraser and a hard edged paintbrush to 'sculpt' the lines. I've found this way i pay much less attention to unimportant detail early on, and if you get your foundations blocks right, the rest tends to fit in much more easily.
Thanks, ill try that the next time!

Here it is:
Not finished but i think you can all see that ;) :D

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/anatomy-female2.jpg

Amerasu
01-11-2006, 06:28 PM
A quick start to one of the poses.

And I have to go out now or I'd comment so I'll leave it to later.

http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/011_figure1c.jpg

SaraD
01-11-2006, 07:44 PM
...Are you going to show us the setting
your putting her into...just curious..would like to see it...:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn
Yeeesss, Iīm gonna show it... If I can get it from my imagination and on to the canvas :D

Marco - thatīs a stopper! Great rendering and wonderful feelingq in the values. I like :applause:
Zng-Y - isnīt it wonderful when other makes the desiscions for you :p And - we were soo right - youīre having fun havenīt you?

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 08:11 PM
Zng-Y - isnīt it wonderful when other makes the desiscions for you :p And - we were soo right - youīre having fun havenīt you?
Darn, you are right :D
What do you think of my first anatomy thingy? :$

SaraD
01-11-2006, 08:33 PM
Zng-Y, if thatīs just a "thingy" then weīre in for a great ride with you :bounce:

Iīll bench in front of the screen, have a glass of wine and wait for the next one :beer:

zng-Y
01-11-2006, 08:35 PM
Oh great! thanks!
Sorry but i cant work any further atm, cause my girlfriend is here and we are going to check Shawshank Redemption (great movie :D), so maybe later this evening or tomorrow! Seeeee yoouuuu

SaraD
01-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Itīs gonna be a lot of wine until then *LOL* Iīll see two versions of every painting - what a treat :thumbsup:

Update
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_004.JPG

SpiritDreamer
01-11-2006, 09:47 PM
Hi SaraD....:wavey:

I put a small tutorial in my anatomy thread, was thinking of you, and what you said about
having a hard time getting images from your imagination onto the canvas, when I put
it in there. It's on page #5 frame #68 in my anatomy thread. I don't know if it will be of
any help to you, but it might... poetry..a visual language of the mind...:)
Take a look at it, if you feel like it of course..

Take Care
Glenn

eyrebrush
01-11-2006, 11:55 PM
Hi, everyone. I'm Ronnie. I feel very pleased - and flattered - that Rebecca has chosen me as one of your models along with Hong Ly for this thread. I'm a little surprised at the poses she's chosen for this. lol! The third one is one of my attempts to immitate Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings"! She's not half given you a hard one to draw here! Hehe! Rebecca only notified me that she was using me for this thread three or four days ago. I've been too occupied with domestic concerns here at home and trying to add some new stuff to my own website (which I've seriously neglected for many months) that I haven't had the chance to have a look at what is going on here! I was amazed to find you're up to page six of this thread already!

I can't possibly compete with Hong Ly. LOL! She is beautiful, and they are lovely poses. I'm very tempted to have a go at one of her poses myself. However, I'm not really attracted to working digitally, and in any case I don't have the equipment. If anyone wishes to see my own style of working you may like to visit my site:
http://www.eyrebrush.free-online.co.uk/
I might have a go at one of Hong's poses if I get the opportunity soon. It will be with charcoal and pastel, watercolour or oilpaint - haven't decided yet. Just one comment I'd like to make, though, about Hong's pictures - she looks as if her image has been cut out and pasted into the picture. If I have a go here I'll probably work her into some natural surrounding.

I'm in awe at the work you great people have done so far with this!

Rebeccak
01-11-2006, 11:58 PM
Hi, Ronnie,

Great to see you here! :) Thanks for the great contribution, and I think the poses are fantastic!

Work done in traditional media is most definitely welcome here!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 02:15 AM
Awesome work here, guys!

Another update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_09.jpg

Amerasu
01-12-2006, 03:18 AM
Wow, Rebecca! He's looking really fine! He has so much depth right now and I really like the details you've been adding. His knees and stomach are looking excellent. But most intriguingly, he looks almost alive. This painting is one of your best so far, I think. Beautiful :)

An update from me on first pose. I'm going with different colours, a warm look.
http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/011_figure1_wip.jpg

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 03:26 AM
Thanks, Amerasu! Trying to keep up with you guys! :D

Beautiful work ~ I wish I were as fast! :) Can't wait to see this finished!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
01-12-2006, 04:04 AM
Morning Beckie -> I like your interpretation around the belly part... that give us a sweet interesting shape... very good... and of course... good to continue like that :thumbsup:


Amerasu -> That comes very good... warm, hot and sweet... more... :bounce:

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 07:17 AM
omg Sara you are just too good! Can you show us or tell us how you work? Your shading work is outstanding!

Becaa , like to see those updates. Looking forward to the final result! Great so far! You pro!@%^&

Here is an update of mine:

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female1.jpg

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Lemog: Morning Beckie -> I like your interpretation around the belly part... that give us a sweet interesting shape... very good... and of course... good to continue like that :thumbsup:
Morning, Lolo! :wavey:Thanks for the kind remarks...I hope to actually finish this one! :scream:

zng-Y,

Great work so far! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-12-2006, 08:01 AM
Morning, Lolo! :wavey:Thanks for the kind remarks...I hope to actually finish this one! :scream:

We use the democracy-thingy again - we decide that you will finish :buttrock:

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by SaraD: We use the democracy-thingy again - we decide that you will finish :buttrock:
:scream: That is so funny! I will do my best! :D :scream:

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 08:05 AM
Thanks Rebecca!

Sara, democracy indeed :D

SaraD
01-12-2006, 08:11 AM
Some quotes on democracy :)

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter"
W. Churchill

“People often say that, in a democracy, decisions are made by a majority of the people. Of course, that is not true. Decisions are made by a majority of those who make themselves heard and who vote - a very different thing.”

W.H. Judd

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by SaraD: "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter"
W. Churchill
SaraD, darling, I am soooooooooo not even going to touch this subject with a 10~foot pole! :scream: Definitely the wrong forum for politics...:D ~ suffice it to say that this is really true. ;)

SaraD
01-12-2006, 08:29 AM
*LOL*
Just to prove our democracy-thingy is a good one :rolleyes:

mark-jenkins
01-12-2006, 08:29 AM
zng-Y Thankyou. Yours is coming on well also. I like the sketchy shading style you use. Will you keep this in the final piece or blend the colours together? I think a combination of both might be interesing. By the way, I love the way you were inducted into the OFDW, very funny, I am glad you went with it!

zephyri Thanks for your kind words, and you are absolutely right about that foot. My problem is when I am halfway through an image I start to get bored and lazy and that is when these things happen. I need to be quiker and more spontaneous maybe.

saraD Coming from you that is praise indeed! I love your piece and can't wait to see the background!!!

RebeccaK That is so cool. Great style.

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 08:34 AM
SaraD,

No worries sweetie! :scream: :)

Marco J,

Thanks! :) I've been a bit lax on commenting on peoples' work...I don't know if this is good or bad. If I comment less, I paint more myself. If I comment more, I feel like I'm doing something productive. :) Hehe, it's fun to participate either way. Anyone should let me or anyone else know if they want a hard~core crit...for the most part, it seems people are here mainly to work together, which is great, as that is really the point. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
01-12-2006, 08:36 AM
SaraD for chancellor...! You get my vote.

I am going for different things in this forum at the time, but still eagerly follow what you are doing and it's exciting to see how all the OFDWs differ from each other.

SaraD - I can't understand what you are doing there. It looks as if the forms mystically appear on the contour... the contour alone looks totally accurate from the beginning. Maybe you could show us a very early step some time in the future? Of how you create that contour form?

Marco J - That is so delicate and sensual! Really great!

zng-J, Amerasu - looking great and dreamlike, esp. Amerasu's background. Will be an exciting result, I am sure. Amerasu, maybe her left foot is a little bit too short?

Oh, and rebecca - you know how I inquired why it is that you use those soft edged brushes? Whenever I see this hypnotic depth you create with them I go: "wow, that's why..."

Will join the next one. Til then....

*continues lurking*

EDIT: rebecca, what on earth are you doing in front of the monitor? Shouldn't you be sleeping?
*does some time calculations*
*does not get it*
Do you sleep at all?

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 08:41 AM
Mr. Mu,

Thank you for the compliment. :) LOL...I think I only sleep these days during server back~ups...:scream:...I think I need to sleep more, for sure. :)

EDIT: I call this time 'Europe wakes' :scream:

SaraD
01-12-2006, 08:57 AM
Thank you Mr Mu :)

Thereīs no big secret. If I feel that I really want the sketch to be accurate I use a grid when I sketch the contoure. And I start by gettin the "big picture", and then I refine the lines by zooming in and work smaller in the grid. Then I fill the sketch outline with my basecolour and I have the countour on a separate layer. I keep the sketch on one layer and then I start refining the volumes and values on the underlying basecolor-layer. I have the reference photo opened all the time at my other screen.
So. I really take advantage of the digital possibiltys when it comes to zooming, gridding and erasing:)
Next time Iīll save the earliest step as well, and show you.

When I do more "free" sketching after reference, I use a bigger grid just to get the main proportions right.

I saw on another forum that thereīs a lot of people using the tracingoption in painter, and I actually think I will try it later. To have a method to "speed up" sometimes. The danger with that method must be that you stop seeing the lines, I guess. But, sometimes time is money...

Mu
01-12-2006, 09:01 AM
LOL...I think I only sleep these days during server back~ups...:scream:...


nono, hunny, they are doing backups while you sleep - that's a difference!:scream:

EDIT: thanks for the explanation SaraD! gridding is actually an ancient technique, isn't it? Funny how those things still apply in the 21st century. I am looking forward to when you post an early step. Will be very instructive, I am sure!

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 11:28 AM
Couldn't resist to work on it again :D

update (especialy the right arm, hand, leg):

This is also the resolution i'm working on.
http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female2.jpg

SaraD
01-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Hereīs my size and resolution

http://sara.mallverkstan.net/011a_big.htm

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Hereīs my size and resolution

http://sara.mallverkstan.net/011a_big.htm

So, that's the key! :D Huge resolution :D! Looks sooo fine, Keep up the good work!
Btw do you work with Painter or PS? (looks like painter or just some nice brushes and brushwork :D)

SaraD
01-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Thatīs the key. As simple as that :)

I work entirely in Painter. I use photoshop for a lot of my "professional" work, but never when Iīm painting.

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 12:07 PM
Damn, need that prog too. Had it before, but that was on my old pc...

Btw, any crits/comments on my painting?

SaraD
01-12-2006, 12:10 PM
I think you have some really nice values and shapes there. I do think you would gain on working larger. The small details add depth to the painting when youīre going for the "realistic" look.

SpiritDreamer
01-12-2006, 12:13 PM
Zepyhri...Good to see you back here...MISS the WORLDS you CREAT around the models.:)

Like your latest one...maybe a little more contrast, to give it that extra punch for
dramatic effect.
If your going for fluididity,there's a whole ocean of it in the water color section,.. Painter #9
Just barely scratching the surface there myself...nice thing aboout doing it digitaly, is you
can work on top of your oils, and go back and forth, without having to worry about it
cracking later...you can get the best of both worlds in one painting.
Windslow Homer would have loved it, I think.
Well...just wanted to say...GOOD LUCK...on that entry of yours ..hope you get in there..:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

Zephyri
01-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Hey Zng-Y, thats looking pretty good now, with the smoothing of the lines in he figure, it's leaving a lovely skin texture there, definitely keep going with it!

And thanks Glenn, I've been away for too long, and these workshops are always such good practice. I work from light to dark to keep the transition between highlights and shadow smoother, so expect more contrast to build as I work more colour variation in there.

I work with Painter 8 right now, there is still so much about that program I've not discovered, finding the time to play with it is high on my list!

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 12:35 PM
I think you have some really nice values and shapes there. I do think you would gain on working larger. The small details add depth to the painting when youīre going for the "realistic" look.

Yeah i totaly agree! My painting was bigger before, but when i posted my sketch here i forgot to put the size back to uh something like 2500 x 1700 , so after that i had to work further on seven hunderd something by an other couple of hunderd :D
I know...stupid me!

Zephyri - Thanks a lot! Always nice to hear such kind words :)

mark-jenkins
01-12-2006, 03:06 PM
Another update. I still have to work on the arm,hand and feet as well as the drapery and feather boa.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-5.jpg

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 03:18 PM
Marco - awesome, looking forward! :bounce:

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Arrrgh!!! Darn at~work Helen Keller mode...will look at your post later! :D

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 03:44 PM
Update again , srry! ^^ (legs, hand(a bit), small updates)

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female3.jpg

Xillion
01-12-2006, 04:37 PM
Hey, all of you!!! Very nice work !!! I'm impressed by the overall quality of the works around here...I hope I can finish mine ... but I'm so busy... ouch!!!

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Xillion: I hope I can finish mine ... but I'm so busy... ouch!!!
SaraD, ready the Democracy! :twisted: :scream:

Amerasu
01-12-2006, 06:22 PM
I'm going to call this done. Chose a warm colour scheme and brightness to get away from the photo's look. I could have spent more time on the background because it's a bit sloppy compared to the figure but honestly, it felt too much like a chore so I'm leaving as is.


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/cgtalk/011_figure1_final.jpg

zng-Y Nice work so far! I think you're doing especially well with the shadows and the skins tones. She looks strong, solid and vibrant and I think you'll have a beauty when you're finished. Your version seems more voluptuous and it looks great.

Marco J Looking good so far on this black and white version! Nice use of light shadow. And you've already mastered those damn feet. Nice work. I always struggle with those. I also think your coloured version (girl sitting) is beautiful. Really well done - the right arm most of all.

Zepyhri I know it's still early stages yet but I totally love it! What an imaginative approach and very cool to see. Sure makes a nice change after all of the photo looking paintings we're all doing. Fabulous work. You've definitely inspired me to try something different for the next pose :)

SaraD Very pretty, creamy and soft as always! Lovely skin tones. I have a hard time wrapping my head around how you work as it's so unusual to see a painting come together limb by limb but it's obviously working very well for you! Nice :)

Rebecca Just like I said yesterday, it's a big WOW! It's my favourite one so far by you. He breathes :)

Spirit Dreamer A much different approach to your norm on here! I love it! I really hope you continue to develop it some more so we can see where you're going.

rblitz7 You've got a good start going on there and as you mentioned, there are some problems with proportions. Her legs are a bit short and her right arm needs a bit of love but you're getting there! I hope you give this one another try and keep drawing from the photos as it's great practice :)

Corvax Great style to your piece! I like the sketchy feel and even though you were a bit rushed, she's still looking good.

Xillion Great work so far! I like your colour choices a lot, they're bright and vibrant and the orange colour you've thrown onto the skin looks good. A nice, strong pose! I look forward to seeing this develop.

Vidar3d Nice work on the quickie figure drawings. That's how I choose too. I do some quick sketches and see which one I like most.

I hope I didn't miss anyone....

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 06:26 PM
Amerasu,

Wow, great comments! Thanks! :)

Cheers, :wavey:

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-12-2006, 07:01 PM
zng-Y Nice work so far! I think you're doing especially well with the shadows and the skins tones. She looks strong, solid and vibrant and I think you'll have a beauty when you're finished. Your version seems more voluptuous and it looks great.

Wow, thanks mate (or gal)! Yours looks realy awesome. Great shading work , nice to see it finished!

SpiritDreamer
01-12-2006, 10:34 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Just experimenting this time around. Not sure where I am going or will end up.
But having alot of fun on this adventure anyway and learning new things at the same time.
Needed a break from the way I have been doing these models lately.
Was looking at everyone's work on these models. All I can think of to say is:
WOW !!
And that goes for everyone. No exceptions. Very impressive work going on here.
Inspiring to say the least.
Take Care everyone
Glenn




http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron_6.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_11_9.jpg

Dark3D
01-13-2006, 02:39 AM
Hi all! Just a quick sketch from me, to much overtime these days...but need to keep sketching!

http://www.dark3d.com/gallery/images/page_CGsketc-14.jpg

Large Version (http://www.dark3d.com/gallery/images/CGsketc-14.jpg)

Vidar3d
01-13-2006, 04:42 AM
Man what a horrible weak. All the vineyards on the west coast are gearing up for their spring wine bottling and I am under the gun big time designing endless Syrah, and Pinot Noir lables. Probably in order to make sure SaraD has plenty of wine while she waits to watch updates.

Anyway tonight is my first chance to draw since first posting my quick gestures of all of the poses. I am hoping to dedicate more time tomorrow night and saturday morning.

Great work everyone so far!

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/11a.jpg

Rebeccak
01-13-2006, 06:02 AM
Dark3D,

Great to see you back! Nice sketch ~ I like the confidence of it! It seems to me you are getting more accurate and that your forms are more nicely~rounded. :)

A quick update from me...

Vidar3d,

Sorry to hear of the inundation...at any rate, nice start! :)

An update from me...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_10.jpg

SaraD
01-13-2006, 06:33 AM
Man what a horrible weak. All the vineyards on the west coast are gearing up for their spring wine bottling and I am under the gun big time designing endless Syrah, and Pinot Noir lables. Probably in order to make sure SaraD has plenty of wine while she waits to watch updates.


*LOL* Iīll stop drinking wine at once, if it will ensure you more time to draw and paint :bounce:

Mu
01-13-2006, 07:16 AM
Glenn,


this looks like an obsidian sculpture!

great experimentation!

Lemog
01-13-2006, 07:25 AM
Finally.. I will try to do something... even if I don't much time...

Another technic's test for me...

I will try this time to do "all" in Photoshop... without my prefered tool (dry bristtle and dry palette knife :scream: ) in Painter...



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/lemog/ofdw11_3_wip_01.jpg

Rebeccak
01-13-2006, 07:39 AM
Great to see your participation, Lolo...but please don't kill yourself working...we know you support us, even if you are only commenting here. :thumbsup:

Lemog
01-13-2006, 07:59 AM
Great to see your participation, Lolo...but please don't kill yourself working...we know you support us, even if you are only commenting here. :thumbsup:
Don't be afraid Beckie... it's a great pleasure for me... to participate... and to draw... and maybe I doesn't need to precise it... but I always love so much female anatomy... :scream: hahahahahaha... all what is pleasant for eyes is always welcome for me :bounce: :D

mark-jenkins
01-13-2006, 10:42 AM
zng-Y That is looking absolutely bang on mate, really nice. Are you picking your colours from the reference image or are you choosing them yourself. I ask because they look very accurate to the image, which is good but you might find that you learn more by choosing your own colours. If you are doing this already then ignore me because you have obviously mastered colour!

Amerasu Great image. The only thing I would say is that the model looks a little cut out and stuck onto the background. The image would benefit a great deal by integrating the forground and background a bit better using shadow and colour. By the way, thanks for your comments about the feet in my image. I had only loosley blocked in the values but after reading your post I decided to leave them as they were. Cheers

Spirit Dreamer Fantastic, good to see a different take on the subject matter.

Dark3d Nice sketch. I know exactly what that it is like to have too little time to sketch, luckily I am not too busy at the moment!

Vidar3d Good start, keep going!!

RebeccaK Its alright I suppose. :hmm:

Anyway, here is the coloured version

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-6.jpg

zng-Y
01-13-2006, 11:04 AM
zng-Y That is looking absolutely bang on mate, really nice. Are you picking your colours from the reference image or are you choosing them yourself. I ask because they look very accurate to the image, which is good but you might find that you learn more by choosing your own colours. If you are doing this already then ignore me because you have obviously mastered colour!

Anyway, here is the coloured version

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-6.jpg

Hey thank's man! Yeah i choose them myself. When i think the colors aren't good enough i take a good look and choose which color has to be included, mostly it's red :D

Your image is truely awesome, u made up your own style there, realy awesome!

mark-jenkins
01-13-2006, 11:41 AM
zng-Y: Your image is truely awesome, u made up your own style there, realy awesome!

Thanks man, very kind of you to say.

zng-Y
01-13-2006, 12:17 PM
Update lightning, right underleg, skin

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female4.jpg

SaraD
01-13-2006, 12:43 PM
I know it doesnīt show, but Iīve been working like hell on this painting... Not on the figure (just small updates) but on the background and scen around it. But I wonīt show until itīs finished :)
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_005.JPG

zng-Y
01-13-2006, 12:56 PM
I know it doesnīt show, but Iīve been working like hell on this painting... Not on the figure (just small updates) but on the background and scen around it. But I wonīt show until itīs finished :)
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_005.JPG

Omg, you are making this model look HOT, damn you are good :(:D

mark-jenkins
01-13-2006, 01:03 PM
SaraD,
This is looking superb but show us the background!! Come one on you know you want to, you little tease. :)

SaraD
01-13-2006, 01:05 PM
SaraD,
This is looking superb but show us the background!! Come one on you know you want to, you little tease. :)

*LOL*
I will - when itīs finished :wise:

mark-jenkins
01-13-2006, 01:26 PM
SaraD - I can't wait

I am trying to work looser and faster on this one. We'll see how it goes.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/marcoj_1971/figure/OFDW11-7.jpg

Amerasu
01-13-2006, 02:51 PM
Took MarcoJ's advice and grounded her more in the painting with shadow. I think this version is improved. Not perfect but I'm satisfied with it as a study. I've made a note to pay more attention to shadow and colour integration in the next pose as I'm moving away from the photo look... or hope to.


http://amerasu.randomleft.com/images/paintings/011_figure1_finalb.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-13-2006, 03:00 PM
Hi...Marco J...:)

Thanks......Your's is not looking to shabby ether...just kidding....looks BEAUTIFUL...:thumbsup:
You brought that STILL LIFE..to ...LIFE....NICE STYLE happening there..:applause:
MOTION in those CURVES..:)


Hi...Amerasu....:)

...LOVVVE YOUR COLORS,,,GREAT JOB...:thumbsup:

SaraD... Democracy is a two way street...you know...LETS SEE THE BACKGROUND...LOL :)


Hi...MR MU...:)

OBSIDIAN SCULPTURE...You just gave me a GREAT IDEA there MR MU...Thanks...:thumbsup:

Tack Care
Glenn

Amerasu
01-13-2006, 03:01 PM
SaraD wrote: I saw on another forum that thereīs a lot of people using the tracingoption in painter, and I actually think I will try it later. To have a method to "speed up" sometimes. The danger with that method must be that you stop seeing the lines, I guess. But, sometimes time is money...

I just noticed this re-reading the thread and am curious as to what the 'tracingoption' is. I don't use Painter often enough to have noticed this. Is it for actual tracing of a reference photo or image?

I've never tried the grid method myself but will have to give it a go one day soon. Maybe I will save myself a million eraser smudges and actually get proportions spot on for a change :) I remember doing it in high school and it worked well then so I'll have to give it a whirl.

Lemog
01-13-2006, 03:56 PM
What a great pieces here... I'm very amazed... congratulations to all artists...
amerasu - SaraD - Marco J - zng-Y.... fantastic... I'm speechless :thumbsup:
Very pleasant in each styles... mmmh... I must back to 3d and stop to try to draw here :scream: hahahaha I under the charm of your creations :bowdown:

zng-Y
01-13-2006, 04:02 PM
What a great pieces here... I'm very amazed... congratulations to all artists...
amerasu - SaraD - Marco J - zng-Y.... fantastic... I'm speechless :thumbsup:
Very pleasant in each styles... mmmh... I must back to 3d and stop to try to draw here :scream: hahahaha I under the charm of your creations :bowdown:

Lemog you silly :blush: !

If you are doing this already then ignore me because you have obviously mastered colour!
The thing is, usualy i suck at picking colours, but when i got a reference i mostly know which colours to choose. So i havn't mastered colour at all yet, but thanks for the HUGE compliment anyway! :bounce:

Zephyri
01-13-2006, 04:21 PM
*bounces* it's all looking great in here! Marco.. you're a real speed demon.. I can't fathom how you manage all those paintings to such a great quality! Sara.. well... I'm just dying to see what you've done for the background... it'll be interesting to see how off my own guess at what it might be is. Zng-Y.. you're pinting gets better and better with every post... just her head, arm and foot to go! Are you adding a background?

And here's an update on my own piece. Crits on anything are welcome and encouraged, I want this to be as good as I can get it to be. The contrast will build the more I complete in the picture, and I'm still fiddling with what exactly the background should be. I've worked much mre tightly on the chest, to give myself an idea of how the finished thing will work, but I won't finish the rest of the figure until I've got the background idea settled on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/aphrodisia2.jpg

aggie93
01-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Here we go. I noticed some have posted their during drafts. I had about 15 minutes to work on this last night. I will try and finish this weekend.

I would like to know from the digital artist out there, what software is the easiest to work with?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06Jan13.jpg

zng-Y
01-13-2006, 07:53 PM
Zng-Y.. you're pinting gets better and better with every post... just her head, arm and foot to go! Are you adding a background?


Thank's! and yeah, only her foot, head and arm to go :bounce:. About the background, would be great, but i have to come up with something.
Yours is looking amn awesome already, NEAT colours, great contrast, keep it up!

aggie93 ŧ The most used software is Photoshop, but Painter is an awesome program too! And almost all of us are using a tablet. Goodluck! Looking forward to an update.

Vidar3d
01-13-2006, 08:34 PM
aggie93- How bout those Longhorns!?

Heh, it looks like your drawing is coming along nicely. The thing the jumps out at me at first is the right shoulder on her "pointing" arm. Look how far away and low the shoulder appears to be from the model's face and chin in comparison to the photo.

I think I like Photoshop the best for digital painting though Painter is just as strong, if not stronger. They both have their strengths. Nothing wrong with posting traditional studies though. Keep it up. Post more updates as progress through the exercise.

aggie93
01-13-2006, 08:47 PM
aggie93- How bout those Longhorns!?

Heh, it looks like your drawing is coming along nicely. The thing the jumps out at me at first is the right shoulder on her "pointing" arm. Look how far away and low the shoulder appears to be from the model's face and chin in comparison to the photo.

I think I like Photoshop the best for digital painting though Painter is just as strong, if not stronger. They both have their strengths. Nothing wrong with posting traditional studies though. Keep it up. Post more updates as progress through the exercise.

There is a T-Shirt in Aggieland circulating. It has the horns taped back on BEVO's head and says, "Congradulations, just for today." :thumbsup:

I will take a gander at the arm. I had a five year old nephew that kept looking over my shoulder. I had to involk censorship.:shrug: I see that now. Her leaning arm is a little too far away from her body as well.

How about software that can create 3d art work? I will check in to Photoshop and Painter. I have been looking at the software that is advertised on this site, like Maya. I am a CAD operator and am very familar with Autodesk. :D

Rebeccak
01-13-2006, 09:02 PM
aggie93,

Great to see you here! :)

Off ~topic, but: :D

As regards Maya, they have a free Personal Learning Edition ~ PLE ~ which you can get here:

http://www.alias.com/glb/eng/products-services/product_details.jsp?productId=1900003

Also, see this thread in the General Discussion Forum:

IMPORTANT: "Which 3D app should I use?" Threads... (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=19315)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=19315

Whatever you do, DO NOT post questions in the General Discussion Forum such as "which application should I use", "what is the best 3D school", etc. ~ these are all topics which have been asked a million times, and I guarantee you that someone will write a not so polite note saying not to post these questions, and to use the Search feature instead. ;)

Just trying to save you the aggravation. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-13-2006, 09:15 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT post questions in the General Discussion Forum such as "which application should I use", "what is the best 3D school", etc. ~ these are all topics which have been asked a million times, and I guarantee you that someone will write a not so polite note saying not to post these questions, and to use the Search feature instead. ;)

Just trying to save you the aggravation. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak



Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks! Had no idea. I guess I should have assumed as much.

Aggie93

SpiritDreamer
01-13-2006, 09:26 PM
Zepyhri...only one thing I can suggest on your painting.....lightning usually explodes

from the darkest part of the sky. The darkness behind the lightning makes for for a
very dramatic effect, might try out the glow brush in painter over the lightning also.
Makes it look real, especially against a dark background. This is only a suggestion, that
might help you some, as you proceed with your contrast buildup, to get the drama
your after in this painting..

Take Care
Glenn

sturmkim
01-13-2006, 09:37 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/rebecca010/OFDW_011_a.jpg

mmmm here is my another tryout...(mmmm another starting.... when can i fininsh other things............. no clue no clue....):shrug:

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 12:58 PM
Hi Rebecca and everyone
Started this one last night
Needed a floating hovering kind of figure for one of my other compositions
Think this one just might do the trick.
Lots of work, left just starting.
Thanks Ron for the great poses
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/MODEL_11_RON_FLYING_1.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/MODEL_11_RON_FLYING_2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/MODEL_11_RON_FLYING_3.jpg

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 01:15 PM
sturmkim,

Nice to see you here! Good start ~ try using a softer brush to get a bit more blending once you have your basic values down. :)

Glenn,

I quite like the look of this! Looking forward to seeing your next steps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

mark-jenkins
01-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Amerasu - That is looking much better, the subtle changes have made all the difference. Nice one.

Zephyri - I am noy really a speed demon, my secret is I paint when I am supposed to be working, but shh, dont tell anybody I'm going to get found out sooner or later! I love what you have done with your image, my only crit is that the chest and shoulder area whilst beautifuly rendered is slightly out of proportion, the right shoulder (on the left as we look at it) seems a bit hunched up, whereas the models shoulder is more relaxed and therefore slightly lower and maybe the head is slightly too small. I hope that all makes sense. Having said that, you are doing a great job and I am looking forward to seeing the final piece.

SaraD
01-14-2006, 02:54 PM
And she almost got a face:) Now, "all" thereīs left is the hair :scream: and then I can start focusing on putting the whole thing together.

Glenn - like the fluid feeling in you strokes, it feels like he is slowly falling
Zaphyri - thatīs so great! Taking the pose and turn it into something unique and "you". Love the colors, but as suggested - a bit more "drama" in the shadows/lights would make it "pop" out, in my opinion.
MarcoJ - I paint when Iīm supposed to be working as well, I wonīt tell if you donīt :thumbsup:
Aggie - I only use Painter. Welcome BTW :wavey: Same to you Sturmkin :wavey:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_006.JPG

eyrebrush
01-14-2006, 02:58 PM
I really love what you are doing with this, Glenn. I would never have thought of viewing the image the other way up! I really DO look as if I'm flying - or floating weightlessly! I also love the free-style movement of your brush strokes! Your work shows a true artistic style of it's own as opposed to faithfull copying of a photograph. I look foreward to seeing the progression of this.

Same also of Burona's work! An individual rendering or interpretation like this 'grabs' me far more than a mere mirror image. Don't get me wrong! lol! I'm not criticizing those who faithfully strive for a faithfull interpretation of the reference photograph. I am envious of the skill shown here! But I question .... is this true SELF expression through rendering and interpretation, or pure craftsmanship? Either concept, of course, is to be applauded.

I'm only airing my personal preferece. I can almost SEE that large heavy spanner, or some such object, hirtling through the air in my direction! PLEASE continue with all this wonderful work!

zng-Y
01-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Sara!!! Omg absolutely amazing! You damn pro! We are on the same time-schedule:D

Zephyri Do you use PS or Painter?

Here is my update. Only her left arm to go! :bounce:

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female-.jpg

Color upate (yeah already ^^)

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female-licht.jpg
http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female-light.jpg

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 03:30 PM
Wow, great work you guys!

SaraD,

As always, beautiful work. Fun to see the model without hair! :) Looking forward to seeing the unveiled background. :thumbsup:

zng-Y,

Wow, I'm so impressed with your progress here! It's great to have you aboard, I expect you now to participate in many more! :wise: :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-14-2006, 03:33 PM
zng-Y,

Wow, I'm so impressed with your progress here! It's great to have you aboard, I expect you now to participate in many more! :wise: :D


Thank's a lot. I'm impressed myself too LOL, you know what i said before i started, so i never thought it would end up like this.
And yeah i will participate in many more! :D

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 03:46 PM
zng-Y,

LOL! :scream: I am glad that you are self~impressed *chuckles* :) ~ looking forward to it!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 04:19 PM
Thanks...Rebecca...Sara...Ron....:)
Ron...:wavey: What's a spanner......is that like in wrench... LOL.:eek: :buttrock:

Ron...Forgot to mention that I checked out your NEW and IMPROVED web site the
other night...REALLY ENJOYED IT...:thumbsup:
Liked the one with you sitting on the rocks, overlooking a water hole, with someone
swimming in it...nice feeling there. I liked them all really..your site is shapeing up nicely.:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

eyrebrush
01-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Thanks...Rebecca...Sara...Ron....:)
Ron...:wavey: What's a spanner......is that like in wrench... LOL.:eek: :buttrock:

Take Care
Glenn


Yup! But it's not adjustable! Hehe!
Ronnie.

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 06:12 PM
How would you guys feel about doing a Master Copy for the next OFDW? Give us a little break from the model, and work from a Figurative Painting by some Master Artist?

Just throwing this out there to see what the interest is. I think it's well time we started working on Composition!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-14-2006, 06:15 PM
How would you guys feel about doing a Master Copy for the next OFDW? Give us a little break from the model, and work from a Figurative Painting by some Master Artist?

Just throwing this out there to see what the interest is. I think it's well time we started working on Composition!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Sounds great to me :D!

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 06:18 PM
1 vote yay! What say the rest of ye? :D

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 06:55 PM
Here are some options from artrenewal.org. I think we should all work off of the same image, vs. having people working from different images. What do you think?

EDIT: I'd propose giving this 3~4 weeks, not 2.

Warning: BIG DOWNLOADS:

Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896):
Hercules Wrestling with Death for the Body of Alcestis
Oil on canvas, 1869-1871
52 1/8 x 104 3/8 inches (132.4 x 265.4 cm)
Wadsworth Atheneum, Hartford

http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9564

William Bouguereau (1825-1905):
http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/b/Bouguereau_William/large/Nymphes_et_satyre.jpg

William Bouguereau: (My personal choice)
http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/b/Bouguereau_William/large/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers.jpg

SaraD
01-14-2006, 07:10 PM
Iīm all in Rebeccak :bounce:
I vote for samer reference for all of us. A great way to get new perspectives and influences!

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 07:13 PM
SaraD,

Great! :bounce:

What do you guys think of this one:

William Bouguereau: (My personal choice)
http://www.artrenewal.org/images/ar...e_au_Enfers.jpg (http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/b/Bouguereau_William/large/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers.jpg)

I think it's the clearest of the 3 references ~ and one of the best I could find on the ARC site.

What do you guys thing about doing this over 3 or 4 weeks?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 07:20 PM
Hi ...I'M game if you are LOL..:) ...How about a Caravaggio sometime and what kind of
time frame are we talking about here.
Sounds like a GREAT step in the right direction to me..:bounce:

Painting nice figures is great, but composition is where it's at..and has always been..:thumbsup: ..:)

YOU PEOPLE type too fast, so i'm just going to say count me in, and i'm ok with
whatever painting and time frame ect. ect, you decide on...:)
Take Care
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 07:22 PM
I looked for a good Caravaggio on the ARC site, but couldn't find one. If anyone can find a good, large reference image of a Caravaggio image on the Web, I'm more than happy to use it for the next OFDW.

I quite like the above image, but I think a majority should agree on the Reference.

Depending on the complexity of the image, I think it's best to give the next OFDW a 3~4 week timeframe. What do you guys think?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 07:38 PM
I had a problem with the link. What is the name? The Dante picture?

MechaHateChimp
01-14-2006, 07:58 PM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-01.jpg

Its been a minute but Im going to take advantage of my three day weekend and try to finish ofdw 10 and 11. Im definitely looking forward to just chillin out and drawing this weekend. - J

Amerasu
01-14-2006, 09:04 PM
I'll give it a go. I don't mind which painting / painter. I like your choice anyway. I'm busy on some other paintings lately but this sounds interesting and with a 3-4 week timeframe, I should be good.

What is the goal of master painting copies? To paint the image as close as possible to the original? Or to put our own spin on it? I've only done it a couple of times before but was never sure of the objective.

Personally, I'd love to see a week where we all do life drawings or paintings. I know that's not feasible for some but I figure everyone can get a model for a couple of hours (spouse, kid, friend, sister, etc). Or self portraits or our own body parts... something from life anyway :)

Mu
01-14-2006, 10:00 PM
I think it's well time we started working on Composition!

Hear, hear!

Well, as always, I say yay!

I get a 404 ERROR when clicking the link you posted, though.

Furthermore, a few questions came up...

- What has become of the idea to put together a composition by all of us together?
- In how far does copying a master painting support our ideas of composition? I mean, the reference creator did all the compositing, not? Do we benefit by thorough analysis while copying? Don't mean to be sarcastic - my question *are* stupid... I don't know jack about composition.
- In fact I will be looking forward to this as I hope my copy of painter will have arrived by then (still no mail, I am starting to lose hair over it:cry: )

SaraD
01-14-2006, 10:09 PM
I like that one as well, Becca. Thereīs contrasts and good lines. One of my favourite artist :)

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 10:57 PM
To get to Rebecca's link you have to highlight it and copy shortcut (not just copy)
Somehow this thread shortens the link...but copy short cut works (then paste into browser)
http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/b/Bouguereau_William/large/Dante_et_Virgile_au_Enfers.jpg

MechaHateChimp
01-14-2006, 11:58 PM
I looked for a good Caravaggio on the ARC site, but couldn't find one. If anyone can find a good, large reference image of a Caravaggio image on the Web, I'm more than happy to use it for the next OFDW.

I quite like the above image, but I think a majority should agree on the Reference.

Depending on the complexity of the image, I think it's best to give the next OFDW a 3~4 week timeframe. What do you guys think?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Would These work?:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/caravaggio/judith.jpg

http://www.mondomostre.it/images/caravaggio/cat_caravaggio_01.jpg

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 12:15 AM
Mecha,

Those are both sweet! Thanks! I like both. :) It's up to you guys ~ post the image link that you vote for, and we'll tally the votes. Bear in mind, we can always do a different one later. :)

Amerasu,

I think doing Master Copies is a great way to learn compositional rules and principles ~ I most definitely want you to participate! :bounce:

Cheers!

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 04:16 AM
Update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_12.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_14.jpg


Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ravena
01-15-2006, 01:15 PM
Hi Rebeccak (http://member.php?u=148587) and everyone,

first sorry for my very bad english.
My first post and picture lies in workshop 010 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3044715&postcount=210).

I am impressed by your pictures and hope that I can learn here still very much.

I would like to wish you a nice Sunday.

Ciao,

Ravena

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4848/21kc1.jpg

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 01:24 PM
Another one...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_15.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 01:40 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Even though I love Caravaggio I think the lessons he has to teach are more to do with
dramatic lighting effects, etc.
The picture Rebecca has chosen (this one) is a perfect example of complex composition and
is the perfect lesson for studying composition.
So I am voting for this one
Take Care
Glenn

Link to picture posted below:
Dante et Virgile (http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg)


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 01:41 PM
Glenn,

Yay! 1 vote for this one. Takers? Please? :D

Ravenna,

Welcome here, and great start! I look forward to seeing your next update! Just one thing regarding posting text...add fewer spaces between text, and it will take up a bit less space. Thank you, and great to see you here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 01:47 PM
William Bouguereau (http://www.artrenewal.org/museum/b/Bouguereau_William/bio1.asp)

Mu
01-15-2006, 01:54 PM
wow Glenn,

I just fell in love with this one....

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1635/nymphesetsatyre7pp.jpg

how about doing this one?

You know, I actually will do whatever will come up as this is going to be very exciting and way over my head (which is a good thing as I am learning what I can't do yet), but this immediately sent a bolt through my heart!

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 01:57 PM
Glenn and everyone,

How about, since the Dante et Virgile image you (Glenn) posted is more clear in terms of Anatomy, we do that one first, then a Bouguereau piece second (in a later OFDW / Master Copy Workshop?)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 02:15 PM
Couldn't get Mr Mu's picture, so don't know which it is
the "Dante..." picture is painted by:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/signature_WB.jpg

zng-Y
01-15-2006, 02:23 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Even though I love Caravaggio I think the lessons he has to teach are more to do with
dramatic lighting effects, etc.
The picture Rebecca has chosen (this one) is a perfect example of complex composition and
is the perfect lesson for studying composition.
So I am voting for this one
Take Care
Glenn

Link to picture posted below:
Dante et Virgile (http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg)


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg

I'm in for this one!!! WOW :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Mu
01-15-2006, 02:25 PM
Glenn,

I edited my post and added an imageshack link - hope it works now!

Rebeccak
we do that one first, then a Bouguereau piece second (in a later OFDW / Master Copy Workshop?)

erm, hang on...
*pulls hard at the bolt in his heart*
*plop!*

Ok, sure!

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 02:26 PM
Alright! 2 (maybe 3, counting SaraD's) for this one! Hehe...I'm biased...:D

We can always do others down the line! :)

Mr. Mu...LOL! :scream:

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Hi ...MR MU...:)
Look at it this way LOL...By the time you finish the first one, you will really be able to do
justice with your painting technique to and on the second piece, the one your heart fell
in love with....:bounce:

Also, the first lesson of this exercise can be learned today....Look at each of these paintings.
Their composition is exactly the same, and your eye travels the same path, and in the same
sequence in both paintings...nice lesson I think...:)

Take Care
Glenn

MechaHateChimp
01-15-2006, 04:30 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone
Even though I love Caravaggio I think the lessons he has to teach are more to do with
dramatic lighting effects, etc.
The picture Rebecca has chosen (this one) is a perfect example of complex composition and
is the perfect lesson for studying composition.
So I am voting for this one
Take Care
Glenn

Link to picture posted below:
Dante et Virgile (http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg)


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_et_Virgile.jpg

I vote for this one as well :thumbsup:

Amerasu
01-15-2006, 04:44 PM
I don't mind which one is chosen. They're both excellent. Aesthetically, I prefer Mr. Mu's suggestion with all of the women but it really doesn't matter to me which one we paint.

Rebeccak
01-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Mecha,

Cool!

Amerasu,

Great! We'll do the Bouguereau next! :thumbsup: I love that one too ~ it might throw some off though with all of the light skin tones ~ probably better to get some practice first with more easily seen muscles and forms. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

eyrebrush
01-15-2006, 06:03 PM
Thanks...Rebecca...Sara...Ron....:)
Ron...:wavey: What's a spanner......is that like in wrench... LOL.:eek: :buttrock:

Ron...Forgot to mention that I checked out your NEW and IMPROVED web site the
other night...REALLY ENJOYED IT...:thumbsup:
Liked the one with you sitting on the rocks, overlooking a water hole, with someone
swimming in it...nice feeling there. I liked them all really..your site is shapeing up nicely.:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

Gosh! Thank you, Glen. I'm GRADUALLY adding some more stuff to my site now. The two life paintings I've up-dated - they're a little larger now and have titles. The one you refered to has also words of explanation. It's called "Call of the Wild".

I'm having great difficulty keeping up with this site as WELL as participating the in FDF. I've just done a drawing for them today, and got to suplement it tomorrow with a water colour painting, with my brush secured to the end of a 30" bamboo cane! lol! I seem to have so little time to DO all I want to do these days. I've still got a lot more to put up on my site - AND to develop the tutorials there! I'm sorry if I appear to make only an occasional appearance here. I do try to keep abreast with what is going on here but it is such a vast site with all the links to other things, and this particular thead seems to have a couple more pages added to it every time I visit it! I've promised myself to have a go at one of Hong Ly's poses as soon as I can for this thread. I thought I would like to try it with water colour pencils - used dry - on parchment paper.

I'm in awe at the wonderful work being produced here! I'm following your development of your painting of me closely, Rebecca!

God bless you all!

Ronnie.

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 06:18 PM
Rebecca

I think I am confused....both paintings are great....
but
Aren't they both Bouguereau?
:banghead:



RON...A thirty inch bamboo pole...I know the feeling, my eye's are getting bad too, but
mostly in the other direction LOL..:) ..JUST KIDDING..:eek: ...Sounds like an interesting
way to paint, i've heard of it somewhere along the line, but have never tried it, would
like to see your results.
About getting lost on all these computer sites ect.....Sure beats watching ..TV..:)
Take Care
Glenn

SaraD
01-15-2006, 06:48 PM
So guys - hereīs the final (?) painting. It was fun but difficult to step out of the referencephoto. And, I think I will start doing this kind of thing a lot more often.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_007.JPG

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 07:03 PM
WOW.and..WOW....SARA...I thought you said you didn't know how to get your imagination
onto the canvas...you were mistaken I see...that painting is ...BEAUTIFUL...and a real
PLEASURE TO SEE...:bounce: ..:thumbsup: :)

Take Care
Glenn

Ravena
01-15-2006, 07:18 PM
Hi SaraD
Wow, what a beautiful fascinatingly picture. I am impressed.

Ciao,
Ravena

So, here is my update: http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/9831/150122xd.jpg

SaraD
01-15-2006, 07:35 PM
Glen, thank you :bowdown:
I was actually quite nervous to put it up here... All of you always gives me a lot of praise for my figuredrawings, so I was afraid to dissapoint you :blush: You singlehanded just gave me the courage I needed to try it again.

EricTheRed
01-15-2006, 09:58 PM
Hello All...

Rebecca, I can't begin to express how excited I am about the OFDW. To make what could be a long story shorter... I've been a long-time lurker of CGTalk with only a few posts under another name (Chrysophylax). I was given a somewhat catchy nickname (Eric the Red) recently at work (Lightborne, Inc.) and I liked the name so much I thought I'd re-register under my new moniker. About the same time I discovered the OFDW and decided the give it a go. I thought I would hammer through the poses as sketches, refine them, and then narrow it down for a couple of color pieces. Crits are, of course, more than welcome. Here are the first four.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/ChrysDives/CGTalk-OFDW/OFDW-011_01-web01.jpg
I think I feel the best about this one... but I have the nagging feeling that I didn't quite make her ribcage big enough and that her right arm is a bit on the "chunky" side and needs to be more slender.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/ChrysDives/CGTalk-OFDW/OFDW-011_02-web01.jpg
Again, I feel as though I am struggling with her right arm and that it needs to be a bit longer and more slender... but maybe that's just an optical illusion since I didn't include any shading.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/ChrysDives/CGTalk-OFDW/OFDW-011_03-web01.jpg
Curses!... it's that right arm again! Perhaps not long enough? It looks as though it is not leaving her enough room for her head, making her neck seem shorter than in the photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/ChrysDives/CGTalk-OFDW/OFDW-011_04-web01.jpg
This one took less time. I noticed that since the model was... well... wrinkly... I took more of a loose sketch approach.

After I make the preliminary sketches for the other 3 poses, I plan on tightening all the sketches up before moving into color... please don't be afraid to nit-pick in your critiques.

-Eric "The Red" Lawshe

Amerasu
01-15-2006, 10:06 PM
Looks very lovely, Sara. Really nice job on the entire image and for making it your own. Love the hair :)

Mu
01-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Good Lord Sara!

this is fantastic! One day *starts daydreaming* I gotta try this, too.

Glenn,

By the time you finish the first one, you will really be able to do
justice with your painting technique to and on the second piece, the one your heart fell
in love with....

Wisely said. 'tis true, but, alas! I'll make a mess of it anyway, I am afraid, so it does not matter too much.

Ravena,

wonderful face lighting, looking forward to your further updates.

Hey, fellow Dortmunderin! - Wo in Dortmund wohnst du?

Amerasu
01-15-2006, 10:10 PM
Ravena Good work so far! You have a nice likeness going on in her face, well done :)

MechaHateChimp
01-16-2006, 12:02 AM
http://killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-02.jpghttp://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-02.jpg

Some fleshing out.

Vidar3d
01-16-2006, 12:37 AM
Mecha - that is an incredible likeness you have to the model! Bravo

Marco J - I love the way you pushed the contrast on this one.

Rebecca- Great idea on the master study. I also vote for it. I love how your piece is turning out. It almost has the feel of a master study right now. I don't know how to describe the way you are using the lighting almost "sculptural" if that's a word. Anyway very cool.

Ended up working all day on Saturday doing color checks at press so not too much to show but here is a little update.

http://www.borderlandgraphics.com/ofdw/11b.jpg

eyrebrush
01-16-2006, 05:28 AM
So guys - hereīs the final (?) painting. It was fun but difficult to step out of the referencephoto. And, I think I will start doing this kind of thing a lot more often.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_007.JPG

Wow! Sara, LOVE the background. The bushes and sky are beautifully rendered! The whole scene looks natural, and yet with a 'classical' look!
Just one thing I feel about it, though: The figure, to me, doesn't look, as yet, fully part of the background .... still looks as if she's floating a bit. It wouls make a big difference If you anchor the figure to the ground - give her weight - by darkening the tone of the shadow in the immediate vicinity of the figure and fading it away to the left away from the sky

Ronnie.

Mu
01-16-2006, 07:45 AM
Eric the Red - wonderful drawings, they have a very real and massive feel as concerns the forms and their positions in 3D-space!I don't know if you will work digitally from now onwards, but if proportional issues occur you can still correct them even if you are way up in the job of colouring your sketches...

MechaHateChimp
01-16-2006, 08:18 AM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-03.jpg

Rett: Thank you :)

I need visine right about now. I was flowing until I hit the hand area... Ive repainted that area about 4 times now and its really starting to wear thin on me. Im going to knock that out in the morning and then just clean up the rest. Im hitting the sack. - J

SaraD
01-16-2006, 08:22 AM
Nighty, nighty Mecha. Iīll go to work, when you go to sleep :)

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 08:33 AM
SaraD,

Great to see your background at last! I think it's great to see you do this, and it takes guts to do something completely from imagination. I quite like the subdued color pallette, and the overall quality to the image which is quite serene. :)

One thing which might help the piece to feel more dynamic is if the clouds were a bit more expressive / dynamic, vs. being more striated, straight across the back of the image. Stahlberg has a great cloud painting tutorial here:

http://www.androidblues.com/cloudtut.html

I think it might be nice if the cloud pattern were to echo some of the emotion of the figure and to complement it in some way ~ but this is only a suggestion. As always, it's great to see your work!

Originally posted by Vidar3d:
Rebecca- Great idea on the master study. I also vote for it. I love how your piece is turning out. It almost has the feel of a master study right now. I don't know how to describe the way you are using the lighting almost "sculptural" if that's a word. Anyway very cool.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate your comments. :)

Your piece is developing nicely especially around the stomach and pelvis area ~ looking forward to seeing your next update! :)

Originally posted by EricTheRed:
Rebecca, I can't begin to express how excited I am about the OFDW. To make what could be a long story shorter... I've been a long-time lurker of CGTalk with only a few posts under another name (Chrysophylax). I was given a somewhat catchy nickname (Eric the Red) recently at work (Lightborne, Inc.) and I liked the name so much I thought I'd re-register under my new moniker. About the same time I discovered the OFDW and decided the give it a go. I thought I would hammer through the poses as sketches, refine them, and then narrow it down for a couple of color pieces. Crits are, of course, more than welcome. Here are the first four.
Welcome aboard! Great to see you posting and no longer lurking. :) I'm glad to see these pencil sketches ~ would like to see more traditional work here, and I think it's nice to be able to start out this way then paint them digitally (which is what I'm assuming you plan to do, though of course you are welcome to use any medium you like!) :)

I like your top image best, though I think your first, third, and fourth images are also strong. So much can change in the digital process that it's not always necessary to have things perfected at this stage. I wouldn't mind seeing any of these sketches developed further as paintings ~ looking forward to seeing your next steps!

Ravena,

Nice work so far, great to see your progress! :)

Mecha,

The upper torso and head especially are just beautifully done...really looking forward to seeing the final resolution on this piece! :thumbsup: You've really nailed a likeness and the sense of who the model is ~ fantastic work so far, nicely done! :)

Great work everyone! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Xillion
01-16-2006, 08:51 AM
Mecha: ...

(that is: speechless + jawdropping + :drool: + :bowdown: + :thumbsup:)

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 08:52 AM
Ron,

Great to see your comments! Thank you. :)

A small update for the arm...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_16.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
01-16-2006, 08:53 AM
Becca - it was water, not sky from the beginning... And even when I took away the waterlilys, I still saw it as water. So I never "saw" the clouds :) Iīll put some more action into it

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by SaraD: Becca - it was water, not sky from the beginning... And even when I took away the waterlilys, I still saw it as water. So I never "saw" the clouds :) Iīll put some more action into it
*slaps forehead* ~ doh! :D Now that you say that, I see it, and read it totally differently! :)

You know, this painting came to mind when you said it was water:

The Lady of Shallot by Alfred, Lord Tennyson - 1809-1892:

http://home19.inet.tele.dk/w-mute/images/Waterhouse/TheLadyOfShalott.jpg

http://home19.inet.tele.dk/w-mute/images/Waterhouse/TheLadyOfShalott.jpg


It's a poor (web) reproduction, but there are probably better versions out there, perhaps off of the ARC site. :) Perhaps what might suggest water would be some nice purple/blue/green shadows across the water's left edge or some plants strewn here and there...at any rate, just a suggestion, and hopefully the image is inspiring! I just love this artist...

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
01-16-2006, 09:11 AM
I just love this artist...

Aye!

*puts on his green stockings*

I Love Tennyson!

EDIT: you must have slept some three hours tonight, right? Maybe all of us should watch that you get enough sleep? Like an internet nanny, kind of?

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by LeMu: you must have slept some three hours tonight, right? Maybe all of us should watch that you get enough sleep? Like an internet nanny, kind of?

LOL! :scream: My friends accuse me of uploading myself to the internet...I think there may be one foot that remains...:scream: Luckily, no work for me today, as it is a holiday here, so I can have a nice day at home without being in Helen Keller mode. :scream:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_17.jpg

SaraD
01-16-2006, 09:24 AM
My fingers are itching now to start the "masterpiece" reproduction... I still vote for the one with hell and virgil... We can take them all later :)

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by SaraD: My fingers are itching now to start the "masterpiece" reproduction... I still vote for the one with hell and virgil... We can take them all later :)
Hehe, only one more week to go Ms. D :) ~ I can't wait either, I love that image! Gory, but amazing! :thumbsup:

Zapan
01-16-2006, 10:17 AM
So guys - hereīs the final (?) painting. It was fun but difficult to step out of the referencephoto. And, I think I will start doing this kind of thing a lot more often.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/011a_007.JPG

Oh sweet moses :eek:

Wonderfull work ,

eyrebrush
01-16-2006, 02:09 PM
Ron,

Great to see your comments! Thank you. :)

A small update for the arm...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_16.jpg



Cheers, :)


~Rebeccak






Hi, Rebecca! It's difficult to comment on the various stages of your work individually, but I'm enjoying it's progression! I'm amazed at the way you seem to give the reference image so much more definition and drama, - give it so much more vitality!
I'm realizing that my age and wrinkles, though, do not have as much appeal, esthetically, as our beautiful Hong Ly! lol! Think I'll give up as a model and just stick to drawing and painting! I'm fascinated with the way your work is developing, though, Rebecca, and looking foreward to it's completion.

Doesn't look as if I'm going to be able to start my drawing effort at Hong Ly today, much to my chargrin! So much to get through! I promise to get onto it soon!

Ronnie.

SpiritDreamer
01-16-2006, 02:42 PM
Hi...RON...:)
I need the beauty of youth, middle age, and old age,... to do the paintings I have in
my mind....makes for nice contrast...YOU KNOW..:bounce:
Some of the most beautiful paintings in the history of art, have been created useing that
very contrast that I just spoke of..:)

Take Care
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Ron: Hi, Rebecca! It's difficult to comment on the various stages of your work individually, but I'm enjoying it's progression! I'm amazed at the way you seem to give the reference image so much more definition and drama, - give it so much more vitality!
I'm realizing that my age and wrinkles, though, do not have as much appeal, esthetically, as our beautiful Hong Ly! lol! Think I'll give up as a model and just stick to drawing and painting! I'm fascinated with the way your work is developing, though, Rebecca, and looking foreward to it's completion.

Doesn't look as if I'm going to be able to start my drawing effort at Hong Ly today, much to my chargrin! So much to get through! I promise to get onto it soon!
Ron, thanks! One point to clarify, Hong Ly is the person (male) who takes the photos, not the model. :) I really hope that you don't give up as a model. For myself personally, I enjoy drawing men more than women, as there is much more muscle definition typically, depending on the model. And you have a Michelangelo~esque look which I think is difficult to find, plus an expressiveness as a model that is rare. I think you have real gifts as a model, and it would be a shame if you were to give those up. :)

I hope you can participate here when you can, but don't feel pressured to do so. We appreciate your contribution already, and anything else is just extra. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 03:33 PM
Trying Painter...just a bit on the face so far...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20011/ron_18.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aggie93
01-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Y'all's work is so refined using computers. I downloaded a trial version and hope to play with it this week. In the mean time, here is what I did this weekend: http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/06jan1i.jpgI am kinda embarrassed because of everyone else's work.

zng-Y
01-16-2006, 04:00 PM
Rebecca : Amazing , but im still so looking forward to see it finished :D

Sara : Amazing work, you know that, but one little crit if i may say so :blush: : The style which has been used on the background and the character are different from each other, so thats something you can work on next time...maybe :) Nonetheless, AMAZING!

All the others : your works are all so good! Highskilled particapaters!!

I guess i finished this one. Maybe i'll try a background, but i'm affraid i'll ruin it.

I tried to put a skin-texture on it, hope it worked out a bit!

http://members.chello.nl/c.megens2/pictures/anatomy/female-licht1.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-16-2006, 04:01 PM
Hi...Rebecca...:)

Really captured a lot of emotion here...very strong piece...:thumbsup:
You should be able to take it a lot further with painter I think..nice to see
you experimenting ....just stay away from those filters...if you can...LOL.!! :eek:
Take Care
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 04:18 PM
aggie93,

Do not be embarrassed ~ we are all here to learn. I think you would quite like the following Anatomy Threads, where these folks are working traditionally in pencil, as well:

Anatomy Thread of Slux (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480

Anatomy Thread of Erich Schreiner (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297560)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297560

Anatomy thread of Icey (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2967040#post2967040)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2967040#post2967040

Definitely check these threads out, they contain beautiful traditional work. Also, I think it's often better to stick to your guns and learn traditionally first. It may be hard with the pressure of the digital tools all around, but I think often you can go farther digitally with a stronger traditional foundation. :)

For next week's Master Copy Workshop, I would encourage you to use pencil as well ~ it will be a challenge, but as a result, I think you will learn a lot! :thumbsup:

zng-Y,

Thank you. :D Amazing progress~! Really impressed with this. The one thing that bothers me just a wee bit is the shape of the eye somehow ~ it just seems a bit sharp somehow? Perhaps the forehead just a bit short? But other than that, I just love this piece. Great work! :thumbsup:

Hope to see you participate and everyone participate in our Master Copy Workshop next week. :)

Glenn,

LMAO! :scream: Now I'm going to get it...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
01-16-2006, 04:49 PM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-04.jpg (http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-04-res.jpg)

OK, Im done. I could keep going forever but I want to finish OFDW10 today so I can have a clean plate for the next OFDW. Thanks everyone for the wonderful compliments! :) - J

You can click on the image for a high res version.

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 04:56 PM
Mecha,

Stunning work! :applause: And so not rendered when viewed up close! :) I like how you're doing that camera~obscura~like thing with the lights on the handle of the sword and elsewhere ~ that's quite nice! Definitely looking forward to your participation in the next OFDW, I think it should be quite exciting! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

EAD
01-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Whats this???, RebeccaK using something other than an airbrush?? GO ON lash some paint down and lets see some of those wonderous marks we all admire in your drawings!!.

MechaHatechimp> class, loving the shiny metal bits.

Lord Tennyson - 1809-1892> nice work man

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by a cheeky Brit: Whats this???, RebeccaK using something other than an airbrush?? GO ON lash some paint down and lets see some of those wonderous marks we all admire in your drawings!!.

MechaHatechimp> class, loving the shiny metal bits.

Lord Tennyson - 1809-1892> nice work man
LOL! :scream: *Rebecca grasps airbrush tightly* *spritzes AOAH with 50% opacity and 50% flow* :scream: *grumbles*...k, gotta...let go...of the...airbrush...:D

Lord Tennyson says, 'Word!' :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
01-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Mecha,

Stunning work! :applause: And so not rendered when viewed up close! :) I like how you're doing that camera~obscura~like thing with the lights on the handle of the sword and elsewhere ~ that's quite nice! Definitely looking forward to your participation in the next OFDW, I think it should be quite exciting! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Thanks!

Im actually looking forward to the next OFDW because it would be the first time Ive ever taken on a picture that complex. Im amped though. I have a good workflow now and Im not as ackward with the pen tablet anymore so my confidence is high.

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 05:33 PM
Mecha,

I think we could all use help with our compositional skills...and there's nothing like tackling a complex piece to get those compositional thoughts going, eh? :) It will be a great challenge for me, I'm really looking forward to it! I've done digital master copies in the past, but mostly they were of select areas of the paintings, and not the whole thing...so we'll all be going into this together with open eyes!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Amerasu
01-16-2006, 05:45 PM
Mecha Just beautiful work! That face is just spot on with light and colours. Really impressive :)

Rebecca Looking great too! The face is really coming along. Someone mentioned an almost statue look for your pose and they're right. It looks amazing the way you've been painting it.

zng-Y Great to see your pic finished! It looks excellent and I love the shading you've done. The only crit I have is that her face seems a little small or maybe not enough forehead but she still looks beautiful :)

aggie93 A great start! The two things that jumped out at me were her right hand which seems a little big / fingers too short and her breasts which seem to be a bit high on her chest. Anyway... no need for embarrassment. I always find traditional media much harder. The mistakes show more easily. We have it easy on the computer and can click 'undo' or easily erase / smudge lines. My digital painting had a bunch of erased and nudged proportion lines, you just can't see them :)

Think I got everyone else yesterday or in previous comments.

I won't have time to do another painting for 011 but at least I did one and managed a few pencil sketches of Ron Eyre. I am looking forward to starting the master copies next week :)

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 05:51 PM
Amerasu,

Thanks for the comments, they're great! And I can't wait for the next Workshop, and really look forward to your participation. :)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

zng-Y
01-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Rebecca and Amerasu ŧ Yeah you're right about the head, not my strongest part i guess :shrug:. Thanks a lot for the compliments, realy like that! Also the crits are most welcome, so thanks again!

Hate Chimp! ŧ wow, amazing how you bring this piece alive with such less work on it. The brushwork looks so fine, great style!

Oh btw, anyone know where i can get Painter?

Amerasu
01-16-2006, 06:36 PM
zng-Y - Painter has a downloadable, fully functioning program with a 30 day evaluation trial (I think!). Should be enough time to see if you like it. I have no idea how much it costs now, I'm still on version 8 I believe :)

http://www.corel.com/painterix/home/index.html

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 06:41 PM
zng-Y,

There is also ArtRage, which is free:

http://www.artrage.com/

While not as sophisticated as Photoshop or Painter, it is a good paint program which many people like, including Zhuzhu. :)

Hope it helps.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

EAD
01-16-2006, 07:14 PM
:scream: *Rebecca grasps airbrush tightly* *spritzes AOAH with 50% opacity and 50% flow* :scream: *grumbles*...k, gotta...let go...of the...airbrush...:D

Lord Tennyson says, 'Word!' :scream:



ROFL... step away from the airbush:scream:.


I'm with you on the mastercopy image choice by the way, should be interesting. Might get a bit ironic though as we may end up adding a new level to Dante's hell..

>Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop... argh I REPENT, I REPENT

aggie93
01-16-2006, 07:20 PM
http://killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-04.jpg (http://killingcaterpillars.com/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-011_sketch-04-res.jpg)

OK, Im done. I could keep going forever but I want to finish OFDW10 today so I can have a clean plate for the next OFDW. Thanks everyone for the wonderful compliments! :) - J

You can click on the image for a high res version.

Mecha, you and Sara have amazing picts. Can I ask a stupid question? Since I have never done a CG pict, do you import the original picture into your picture and enhance it from there? I know that may be an insult to your artistic ability and I do not mean it that way. I just think the pictures are so refined they look almost real. You can PM your reply to not give any secrets away or just cuss me out live.

:shrug:

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by a ligthly spritzed AOAH: ROFL... step away from the airbush :scream:.

I'm with you on the mastercopy image choice by the way, should be interesting. Might get a bit ironic though as we may end up adding a new level to Dante's hell..

>Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop... argh I REPENT, I REPENT
:scream: I would agree with that last statement especially if it ended with the phrase, "Thou shalt spend enternity rendering flesh in photoshop...WITHOUT the airbrush..." :scream:

zng-Y
01-16-2006, 07:29 PM
aggie93 ŧ i just saw u were embarrassed to post your work, WHY?? First of all, everybody has to learn. Second of all, like they told me, it's all for fun and study, so there is nobody who would bring you down with mean words or something.
So just keep the updates comming! :bounce:

aggie93
01-16-2006, 07:36 PM
aggie93 ŧ i just saw u were embarrassed to post your work, WHY?? First of all, everybody has to learn. Second of all, like they told me, it's all for fun and study, so there is nobody who would bring you down with mean words or something.
So just keep the updates comming! :bounce:

Thanks ZNG-Y!