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Ego
12-11-2005, 06:39 PM
Hi there:
I have finally mustered the courage to start a thread about some of my sketches, doodles, anatomy studies, and paintings, after much prodding by our Rebecca. :P My objective is to learn by getting feed backs, helpful pointers and encouraging conversation.
Thanks for stopping by.

Elsie
12-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Yeeeeeaaaaah! *dances with Queenie* about time!

Rebeccak
12-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Yay! :bounce:Looking forward to this, Queenie! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
12-11-2005, 06:44 PM
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/wkshop001B.jpg
Painting from one of the OFDW.

Ego
12-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Yay! :bounce:Looking forward to this, Queenie! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk
LOL, am moving in with you if I get laughed out of the village :D :D

Ego
12-11-2005, 06:55 PM
Some sketches from my notebook.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/1.jpg


http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/2.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/3.jpg

Ego
12-11-2005, 06:57 PM
Some more sketches

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/4.jpg

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/5.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/6.jpg

Ego
12-11-2005, 06:58 PM
Another bunch of sketches

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/7.jpg

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/8.jpg

Rebeccak
12-11-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Queenie: LOL, am moving in with you if I get laughed out of the village :D :D
Anyone laughs, I squash. ;)

Did you work more on that first OFDW piece? I think it looks great! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
12-11-2005, 07:01 PM
Some more coming up.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/9.jpg

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/10.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/11.jpg

Ego
12-11-2005, 07:02 PM
Anyone laughs, I squash. ;)

Did you work more on that first OFDW piece? I think it looks great! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk
Can you believe I forgot about it until I started sorting stuff in my graphics folder for posting!
I'll now throw it into my 'to be finished' compartment.

Rebeccak
12-11-2005, 07:03 PM
It looks great! Definitely post that last hand you did, as well! :thumbsup:

Ego
12-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Detail of the hand from OFDW number 8 pose 1
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/OFDW008handdetail.jpg

Rebeccak
12-11-2005, 07:08 PM
Beautiful! I'm so impressed with your improvement! :applause:

Ego
12-11-2005, 07:11 PM
Beautiful! I'm so impressed with your improvement! :applause:
Thank you Rebecca; I owe you a bunch.

Rebeccak
12-11-2005, 07:15 PM
Are you kidding? You've created the most addictive thread on CGTalk! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=295498) :applause: Well, second most addictive... :D

Elsie
12-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Why would anyone laugh?

You really have improved so much Queenie, very inspiring to see :) that hand looks great, I love the almost metallicy look.

SpiritDreamer
12-11-2005, 07:21 PM
Hi
QueenSoul
LOOKING GREAT so far, hope you post the wip for that silvery gray one your working on.
I really like that one a lot,really turning out BEAUTIFUL :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see more, each one is better than the last, nice prograss, great progress
in fact. :)
Glenn

Ego
12-11-2005, 08:08 PM
Thank you werewolf.

@Glenn: Thanks for stopping by and for your help. I'll surely post that one. It's been fun getting back to OFDW.

Ego
12-12-2005, 12:55 AM
more sketchiness:

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/12.jpg

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/13.jpg

Ego
12-12-2005, 12:56 AM
Some more
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/15.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/sketches/16.jpg

erilaz
12-12-2005, 02:40 AM
*INSERT NOISE FOR EYES POPPING OUT OF SOCKETS CARTOON-STYLE*

Wow Queenie! Beautiful progress! Great studies!:D

Rebeccak
12-12-2005, 02:55 AM
Queensoul,

I can really tell that you're working on those opposing curves in these studies, which is great to see! I think it's a worthwhile exercise, if you get the opportunity, to trace the opposing curves of a master drawing (either using tracing paper in a book, or tracing in Photoshop) the opposing curves you are guaranteed to find there. This will also help to better your sense of proportions ~ it's just about practice. :)

Good work, can't wait to see more! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
12-12-2005, 03:27 AM
Queensoul,

I can really tell that you're working on those opposing curves in these studies, which is great to see! I think it's a worthwhile exercise, if you get the opportunity, to trace the opposing curves of a master drawing (either using tracing paper in a book, or tracing in Photoshop) the opposing curves you are guaranteed to find there. This will also help to better your sense of proportions ~ it's just about practice. :)

Good work, can't wait to see more! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

You are right there. your tutorials on Opposing curves first opened my eyes. From next week I'll start studying the works of my heroes William
Bouguereau and Rubens.
Supposed to be in oils but I'll make sure I do it also digitally. Should be interesting. But of course you know how I always set these goals and then get distracted. I am saying it aloud here to get some jabs from you once in awhile if I dont get cracking on it.
@Martin, thanks, really, I mean it.

erilaz
12-12-2005, 03:30 AM
From next week I'll start studying the works of my heroes William
Bouguereau and Rubens.


Hey, that's great to hear! I just finished a study of Bouguereau last night! (And bought a book on Rubens... okay that's just freakily coincidental!):)

M.E.L.
12-12-2005, 03:35 AM
Lookin pretty good QS.

Remind me to dig out some of my anatomy stuff from Sheridan for you... dig deep under my bed for it... gotta be somewhere underneath all those skeletons and other things...

-s

Ego
12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
Lookin pretty good QS.

Remind me to dig out some of my anatomy stuff from Sheridan for you... dig deep under my bed for it... gotta be somewhere underneath all those skeletons and other things...

-s
Thanks Shawn, I sure will. Now everytime I log on to this thread, I get your avatar to scare the crap outta me, so I can draw more :D

Rebeccak
12-12-2005, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Queensoul: I am saying it aloud here to get some jabs from you once in awhile if I dont get cracking on it.
You got it! :D

Originally posted by M.E.L.: Remind me to dig out some of my anatomy stuff from Sheridan for you... dig deep under my bed for it... gotta be somewhere underneath all those skeletons and other things...
Yes please! Post 'em on up! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Martin: Hey, that's great to hear! I just finished a study of Bouguereau last night! (And bought a book on Rubens... okay that's just freakily coincidental!):)
Erm...post 'em dammit! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

shyamshriram
12-12-2005, 06:58 AM
Keep working Qunnie...lots of improvement in ur work :thumbsup:

Ego
12-12-2005, 08:46 AM
Hey, that's great to hear! I just finished a study of Bouguereau last night! (And bought a book on Rubens... okay that's just freakily coincidental!):)
I sure would love to see your study of Bouguereau. Whenever you get a chance of course :)

Shyam, thanks for stopping by and the support.

erilaz
12-12-2005, 10:42 AM
I sure would love to see your study of Bouguereau. Whenever you get a chance of course :)

.

I'll put it up tonight! (Want to do a bit more on it!)

Ego
12-13-2005, 09:05 AM
Update on the OFDW 008 pose 1.

This is how far I've gotten :
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/OFDW008pose01asmall2.jpg

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 09:10 AM
Great stuff, Queenie! You're really improving...keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

Squibbit
12-13-2005, 09:15 AM
"OFDW 008" that code for "self portrait" ?


nice work :)

:bounce:


.

Lemog
12-13-2005, 09:31 AM
This one is always very good... and I discover the hand close-up... really appreciated... nice to see you progress at great steps... :thumbsup:

Ego
12-13-2005, 09:59 AM
Thank you Becca, Sir Squibs and Lemog. I am learning from y'all. Always a pleasure to learn new things and with encouraging people around, its a lot easier to learn without intimidation.

SpiritDreamer
12-13-2005, 10:37 AM
QueenSoul....AMAZEING....What a little polish can do...:thumbsup:
Really like how the forms vanish into the surrounding darkness, in a few spots.
Figure has air around it now, not a cut out, and has that oneness for sure....UNITY...
GREAT JOB...QueenSoul
Glenn

Lyneran
12-18-2005, 10:40 PM
wow ms. queensoul i am in awe of your paintings! and those sketches are looking great too! it's also really nice to see your wip :) i'll be dropping by every now and again keep em coming :thumbsup:

Ego
12-20-2005, 11:25 AM
Thank you Ann and Glenn.

Practising fast sketch of portraits here. http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk//sketches/portrait1.jpg
Charcoal on paper
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk//sketches/portrait2.jpg
Pastels on ingress pastel paper. Live model. Didnt finish before class was over and sure didnt feel like blending it afterwards :D

Ego
12-20-2005, 11:27 AM
Another one. young lady at the library. Probably would have been a more interesting pose if I had captured her movement looking the books on the shelf. I was just intrigued by her headdress. I'll try and develop this further if I can remember some of the details.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk//sketches/portrait3.jpg

Ego
12-20-2005, 11:29 AM
One more portrait study. Teehee..neighbor at art class. I started it then finished it from memory. Because she looked like she was about to pop me one :(
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk//sketches/portrait4.jpg

Rebeccak
12-20-2005, 12:04 PM
Nice portraits, Queenie ~ I particularly think the last one looks really substantive and well~observed. Keep going! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
12-20-2005, 12:15 PM
Nice portraits, Queenie ~ I particularly think the last one looks really substantive and well~observed. Keep going! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk
You know what just occured to me, laying these portraits side by side..I think am developing a habit of tilting my sketch book a certain way or drawing subjects from the same tilted angle. I dont know if you understand what I mean. Ok, one more habit to break :(

Rebeccak
12-20-2005, 12:19 PM
Queenie,

No worries, I would just work on aligning the features of the face a bit more symmetrically ~ your'e right, tilting the page may influence this, but I, for one, can't draw on a flat surface unless the page is tilted. When drawing on an upright easel, that is a different story. You might try just working off of a lightweight easel every now and then, or just roughly mapping in the basic shapes of the face first before going in to add details. :)

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
12-20-2005, 12:23 PM
Queenie,

No worries, I would just work on aligning the features of the face a bit more symmetrically ~ your'e right, tilting the page may influence this, but I, for one, can't draw on a flat surface unless the page is tilted. When drawing on an upright easel, that is a different story. You might try just working off of a lightweight easel every now and then, or just roughly mapping in the basic shapes of the face first before going in to add details. :)

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk
Thanks teach!
Oh good news. I just got accepted into private lessons for oil painting, by one of the known 'old masters painting' teachers in the area. I had to send in a couple of drawings two weeks ago for approval. She called me today to tell me I had 'promise'.. LOL. AND SHE SPEAKS ENGLISH!
And she'll be happy to tutor me from january 7. She only has like 6 people in her class.
So am pretty much excited, eventhough its only one day a week.

Lemog
12-20-2005, 12:37 PM
I particulary appreciate the third one... her glance appear very quiet, sweet... she seem to be very kind...

...and of course, the second one... her little smile breathes the joy of life :)

SpiritDreamer
12-20-2005, 02:41 PM
WOW....Great news about your painting class QueenSoul... Can't wait to see the upcomeing
results, should be GREAT... I think...You'll love it.
Take Care...and GOOD LUCK in your painting class...Glad to hear it's small, you'll learn a lot
better, and more that way.....NICE....:thumbsup:

Glenn

Ego
12-20-2005, 02:49 PM
Thanks for your kind words Lemog and Glenn.
Yes I am very excited about it. :D

Rebeccak
12-20-2005, 03:00 PM
Congrats on the class Queenie!! :bounce:Can't wait to see the cool work you do! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-20-2005, 11:34 PM
Thanks teach!
Oh good news. I just got accepted into private lessons for oil painting, by one of the known 'old masters painting' teachers in the area. I had to send in a couple of drawings two weeks ago for approval. She called me today to tell me I had 'promise'.. LOL. AND SHE SPEAKS ENGLISH!
And she'll be happy to tutor me from january 7. She only has like 6 people in her class.
So am pretty much excited, eventhough its only one day a week.

Sweet! I wish I had someone in the area like that! :)

Ego
12-28-2005, 02:21 PM
Hi guys, this is what I have on my easel today. I was going to paint it in oils but the little girl wants it like yesterday. And since I am learning to dabble in the old masters' technique, it would have taken weeks to finish.

So I chickened out and am gonna do it in pastels. This is the first time am doing a child and I can tell you right now, she scared the crap out of me. "what are you doing now?", "can I tell you a story", blah blah blah. So after the charcoal drawing I told her to go. :))
I have done a few minor corrections after I took this photo of my easel but if you find some anatomical anomaly, please call my attention to it. This is my little niece in law :)

http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/maaikesmall.jpg

Rebeccak
12-28-2005, 02:30 PM
I quite like this so far, Queenie! :thumbsup:

My suggestion would be to make sure that the shoulders are symmetrical, and that her right eye does not appear to drift to the side. Will you be using color pastels? Make sure to lay down rich, darker tones first, and build up to lighter pinks / light blues, but not go too much towards white, which will instantly wash things out. And I would also recommend working the bkgrd at the same time as the foreground. Keep the bkgrd simple, as it's only purpose is to set off the figure. :)

Looking forward to seeing an update of this Queenie! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Art2
12-28-2005, 02:42 PM
hey looks good to me. Deep wrinkles in cheek makes her look old(er). Try to soften the wrinkles when coloring. Ears are not lined up, but I don't know how she looks in real life :) I look forward to the colored version Queenie.

Aaand what Becca said :)

SpiritDreamer
12-28-2005, 02:49 PM
Hi...OueenSoul...
How's the class going...great I hope, can't wait to see your first oil painting.
On your curent portrait as i'm looking at it.
The left ear is lower than the right,...same with the eye...not sure if the head is cocked
to one side at an angle...if it is, than you should make the bottom line of the chin angled
or lower on one side, the left side as i'm looking at it, to go with the slight tilt of the head.
Always keep in mind the underlying bone struture of the skull, as you paint faces.
Looks really good, other than the small alignment ajustment...captured a nice expression.
Had to laugh ...kids are the worst sometimes....SIT STILL DAMIT...:)
Well GOOD LUCK with your painting...hope you post it, when you finish it....:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

Ego
12-28-2005, 02:50 PM
As usual, thanks Becca and Marlon. Will definitely take all the advise given. I've lined up the ears now. I've lined up the shoulders too, eventhough she was slightly slumped to the side, but I think straightening up the shoulders gives it a better composition. Thanks for the suggestion.

Ego
12-28-2005, 02:53 PM
Hi...OueenSoul...
How's the class going...great I hope, can't wait to see your first oil painting.
On your curent portrait as i'm looking at it.
The left ear is lower than the right,...same with the eye...not sure if the head is cocked
to one side at an angle...if it is, than you should make the bottom line of the chin angled
or lower on one side, the left side as i'm looking at it, to go with the slight tilt of the head

Glen, thanks a bunch. Really appreciate your help. Yes she was slumped to the side for the pose. But I have now straightened everything since I think it makes a better composition for now.
You guys are so good to me :)

Rebeccak
12-28-2005, 02:59 PM
We love ya. :shrug: :D :bounce:

Rebeccak
12-28-2005, 03:12 PM
Suscribing. ;)

Ego
12-28-2005, 04:20 PM
Suscribing. ;)
Why, thanks lady :)

Rebeccak
12-28-2005, 04:21 PM
See? It works! :thumbsup:

erilaz
01-01-2006, 10:41 AM
I'm WAITING! :wip:

Ego
01-01-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm WAITING! :wip:

Ouch :D
I am having an interesting holiday. Family all over the place. Fun but not conducive for art.

Rebeccak
01-01-2006, 02:35 PM
Just briefly checkin' in, but I had to wish Queensoul a Happy New Year! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Just briefly checkin' in, but I had to wish Queensoul a Happy New Year! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak
*grabs Becca and wont let go! Happy new year honey. Hope you are having a wonderful time with your family.

Here's a sketchathon with additional couple of minutes.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/sculpturesmall.jpg

erilaz
01-01-2006, 03:26 PM
Now there! That's better! I got my Ego hit! :drool:

Lemog
01-02-2006, 05:55 AM
Congratulations for your latest sketch Queenie... and as it's the good time... I wish you an Happy New Year 2006... that this year can give you all drawing skills you want :thumbsup:

Ego
01-02-2006, 06:41 AM
Thank you Lemog! I wish you and your family a wonderful new year :D

Here I am doodling after the masters again . http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/moses2.jpg

Rebeccak
01-02-2006, 01:44 PM
To quote Aggie:

Go Queensoul! It's your birthday! :scream:

I'm really impressed with this one, Queenie! Trundle on over to Erich / El Chief's thread and check out his master copies as well! Keep going in this direction, it's definitely the right one! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-02-2006, 04:08 PM
Will do Teach!



To quote Aggie:

Go Queensoul! It's your birthday! :scream:

I'm really impressed with this one, Queenie! Trundle on over to Erich / El Chief's thread and check out his master copies as well! Keep going in this direction, it's definitely the right one! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-20-2006, 04:23 PM
Sigh..work and art dont mix together! I just would love to curl up and draw all day but then how does my bills get paid, huh? :p
I think its time for a little update here so my thread doesnt sink into oblivion.

Portrait done at the academy: 3 hours live model sitting. Pastels on canson paper.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/janportrait.jpg

Ego
01-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Vegetables! Grrrrr why do they like vegetables and fruits so much at the academy?
Pastels on Art Spectrum colorfix pastel paper.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/academystill.jpg

Lemog
01-20-2006, 04:35 PM
How can I know that work is not good to practice art... really sad... (that make more than one week I am on the same drawing... a shame...)

I really appreciate the portrait, really sensitive... and very strong and interesting style, full of personality... very good work Queenie :applause:

Ego
01-20-2006, 04:42 PM
Thanks Lemog. Your words are always appreciated. I just ordered Charles Bargue and Jean-Leon Gerome: Drawing Course (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/286770166X/qid=945029361/astrokeofgenius)

I have to put in some mad practice hours before FLorence. Weird that one has to learn to draw, so they can draw well at a drawing program. Well am doing it so I dont look too stupid at the workshop. :D

Rebeccak
01-20-2006, 05:20 PM
Really nice work Queenie! :wavey: Great to see you reviving your thread! :) *At work, so I know what you mean!* :cry:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elsie
01-20-2006, 06:06 PM
That's some really nice work in the portrait there Queenie ^^, you captured the character very well methinks. Good to see some new work!

SpiritDreamer
01-20-2006, 06:10 PM
Hi ...QueenSoul...:)
I like expressionistic style paintings very much. They are able to produce very strong
emotions, and are not striveing to acheive perfection of form. They go deeper than that.
Their goal is to capture what cannot be seen on the surface, but rather to capture
what is the essence or spirit that comes from within the person that is being portrayed.
Seemes like you have a natural gift for doing this...keep it, perfect it, and make it yours.
Study the EXPRESSIONISTIC PAINTINGS and PAINTERS..and you will SEE, and UNDERSTAND
more than I can EXPRESS in these few words.
GOOD LUCK with your school, and learning...AND STAY TRUE TO YOUR HEART, WHEN IT
COMES TO YOUR ... ART.
POST MORE...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
01-20-2006, 07:18 PM
aaawwww Glenn! You, Rebecca, Lemog, Elsie, you guys have made my day perfect. Thanks for all the advise and encouragement.

Rebeccak
01-20-2006, 07:19 PM
We love you, Queenie! :bounce:

Art2
01-20-2006, 07:28 PM
Pastels on Art Spectrum colorfix pastel paper.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/academystill.jpg

I really like what you've done here, love it. Good job!

Lyneran
01-20-2006, 08:29 PM
hiya queenie! i feel for you about just wanting to draw but having to do other things!! :banghead: anyway, i really like your use of color on those pastel pieces, the second one especially. and nice to see you're back. :)

Ego
01-24-2006, 01:39 PM
I suppose I better throw this WIP in here, while am at it. Oil on panel, my interpretation of OFDW 11. http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/011small.jpg

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 02:08 PM
Nice work there, Queensoul! :)

Check out the work of Paula Modersohn Becker, I think you might quite like her work! I'd provide links, but, well, you know, the nude images at work thang. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Hi...QueenSoul...:)

You for sure left your finger print on this one,...nice style...took it far beyond the photo,
and made it yours. :thumbsup:
Only thought I have for improvement ...maybe some nice colored shadows under and
around figures...purple and green maybe... and take that WIP off of it..and sign it.
Best one on here so far...but thats just my opinion..
Great to see your developeing style QueenSoul...can't wait to see it in full bloom.:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
01-24-2006, 03:06 PM
Thank you Rebecca , I'll go check out this artist.

Glenn, thank you very much for your support and kind words. :)

Rebeccak
01-24-2006, 03:09 PM
No problem, Queenie! I was just reading Glenn's comments about your liking Expressionist works, and that is exactly the kind of painter M-Becker is. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-26-2006, 06:37 AM
A wip I started yesterday. Had to stop to let the first layer dry..Plus the turp made me violently ill . I always got a headache everytime I'd paint in oils. Just never put two and two together until another artist suggested it might be a reaction to the turpentine. Am gonna have to look into this seriously;

Anyway, here's the little wip ..just placed some of the features to take a look see.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/oilportraitsmall.jpg
Oil on canvas.

Lemog
01-26-2006, 06:45 AM
yeah... superb :thumbsup:

Oil painting... my first loves... hahaha... very sad that give you headache Queenie... but the result is really pleasant... just maybe need more marked shadows and saturation... but maybe it's only due to the photo or the lighting... in any case, I like the style... well done girl :applause:
About reference, It's made with a living model or a photo, or only imagination ?

erilaz
01-26-2006, 06:49 AM
Hi Queenie! I commented in the other WIP thread...
Have you considered wearing a mask (like the ones they use for sanding and such) while you paint, so you don't get as much of the fumes? It help me a lot when I was doing minature work. All that glue and turps....

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 06:51 AM
Queensoul,

Just saw this in the CGS thread! Nice work so far! I think you're going to progress quite well on this. :)

I haven't done a real oil painting in a long time, but I looooove oil painting ~ wish I could get back to it. I have some recommendations for approaching an oil painting ~ bear in mind these are only suggestions, and there's no 'right' way to approach this. :)

One great way to avoid that awful intimidating blank canvas is to immediately coat the blank canvas with several successive turp~thinned washes of burnt sienna. This not only establishes your mid~tone right away (the equivalent of the mid~gray I always advocate folks using digitally), but it also establishes the basis of the skin tones. For a fast painting, it can be nice to quickly coat a canvas (that has been gessoed unless pre~prepared) with a relatively thin (but not too thin) coat of burnt sienna. Let it dry just a bit, just enough to make sure it's not runny, and then paint into the canvas with a small bit of white or yellow ochre to pull out your lights. Mix a black using a combination of alizarin crimson, viridian green, ultramarine blue, and burnt umber (roughly equal quantities of each, using a pallette knife ~ you'll waste less paint that way). I usually use just a bit more ultramarine blue and alizarin crimson, but you can experiment and find out what you like best. Using black straight out of the tube is not usually recommended, but sometimes I like to use it to just quickly rough in a relatively thin outline.

The thing to remember with respect to skin is not to go for white right away for highlights ~ instead, use yellow ochre first, as that will be lighter in value by comparison with your burnt sienna wash. Using white just washes things out, and people can have anywhere from bluish to greenish to reddish highlights to their skin (the full spectrum, really). Try establishing as much form as you can WITHOUT using white, then use it sparingly to add highlights.

Also, I really recommend blocking the major forms in first, before going for details. There are lots of good painting demos online, I'll try to find one later, unless you beat me to the punch, which is more likely. :)

Sorry this was long~winded, but it's a nice opportunity to talk about something I miss...:D

EDIT: I just saw your comment about turpentine. Be VERY careful about this, and take your reactions seriously. As a student at a very expensive art school, we were not provided with very much studio space, and consequently I painted a lot in my apartment, which is probably the worst thing health~wise one can do. It has been years, but I feel that my system has been compromised ~ I sneeze all year, and my reaction to turp is part of the reason I avoid oil painting now. I once accidentally bought a cheap thinner that had listed as an ingredient Benzene, and this is one of the worst agents known to man. NEVER use anything that has this chemical in it.

At least here, they sell odorless turp, and there are also water~soluble oils. You may wish to try the latter (though they are more expensive, and have different properties than real oils ~ I've never tried them, so can't advise about them. But it may be worth looking into.)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-26-2006, 07:12 AM
Lemog: Thanks. I'll work more on the shadows after I have committed to the feature placements. Yep I must watch out for those.
This painting is not a class project. I based the pose on a singer's picture I saw in the magazine. Her name is beyonce.
I dont want the painting to resemble her at all , just experimenting on her funky hairdo and pose :)

Martin: Danny is gonna buy me some masks to try out. If anything, it'll help with the unhappy accidents of sometimes popping the damn brush(fully loaded) in my mouth without thinking. I think the problem is that am painting indoors without ventilation because of the cold weather. When the weather gets warmer I can go back to my 'studio' which is our patio. And it has a big window I can open.

Becca: You, longwinded? Hell NO! :D Its always a pleasure to read from you and to listen to your advise and suggestions. I had bought several painting DVDs over the holidays and am really learning tons from them. I have the oil demonstrations from Daniel Greene, Gregg Kreutz, Helen Van Wyk, Burton Silverman, Dan Gerthart (hot hot hot :D He is a nervous wreck but great fun to watch), Perri Sparks, John Sanden and Tom Keating. Its really great pleasure watching these people work.

In this painting, I have not used white at all, except in mixing my pallette. Its gonna be fun. In the meantime, Bouggie, here I come.

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 07:15 AM
Here are a few tutorials I found on the web:

http://www.artistsanon.co.uk/self_portrait.htm

EDIT: Just read that you had DVDs...did you want to post links in the References thread? This might be really useful...hell, they sound great! :)

And...OMG...never put a loaded paintbrush in your mouth...that is like asking for cancer! :eek:

'Night, Queenie...no paint eating, now! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-26-2006, 07:23 AM
Ok, I'll post the references.

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 07:26 AM
You know, another really good approach to this kind of painting, of which I am really fond, is to break the forms into chiseled increments, using your brush as the width of the chisel.

Too tired to do a demo atm, but I'll try to post something later. :) Do the DVDs discuss this approach? Mainly it's about getting variation of hue / value / saturation into every stroke you make, and making your strokes define the subtle planes of the face. Maybe I can try a demo in painter later on, though I'm still pretty new to that program...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
01-26-2006, 09:09 AM
LOL, Didn't you go to sleep yet? :D

There are like 25 DVDs :D I have watched a few because each one is pretty long...the shortest is about 90 minutes. Of notable interest is the fact that each of the artists have a different approach to a painting. Quite fascinating to watch and pretty confusing to choose a path to follow.

One whose style is different amongst them all is Alexei Antonov, who paints in the way of the old masters like my atelier teacher. http://www.artpapa.com or http://www.1art.com
I would love to get results like that but dear lord, there are so many steps. I am afraid, I lack the patience for such an endeavor.
Looking forward to see a demo of what you are talking about though.

Mu
01-26-2006, 09:18 AM
it'll help with the unhappy accidents of sometimes popping the damn brush(fully loaded) in my mouth without thinking.


lmao!:scream:

Nice to know you spend your days inhaling and eating oil colours?! They're not illegal in Belgium are they:scream:

Ego
01-26-2006, 10:09 AM
lmao!:scream:

Nice to know you spend your days inhaling and eating oil colours?! They're not illegal in Belgium are they:scream:
Teehee, they are not illegal but my doctor in conjunction with my tummy may very well object vigorously :D

Ego
01-27-2006, 06:01 PM
Hi all. Just got back from the academy and I wanted to post the work today before I lazy off.

Pastel on canson paper. The model is a director of one of the technical schools in the area. He shocked everyone by being the best model we've had so far. He didnt move an inch during the entire 3 hours except when the teacher called for a break. Beh, too lazy today. I'll probably do some more blending later.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/marcsmall.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-27-2006, 08:03 PM
Hi QueenSoul...:)

Nice one...really starting to feel that there is bone under that skin...around forhead
looks great, all the planes are there...nice.
Looks like your starting to feel more comfortable with that pastel...nice colors and strokes.
Pastel...good medium to practice for oil painting.
Getting better with each one, it looks like, to me anyway....:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-27-2006, 08:10 PM
Nice work, Queenie! This is a really solid piece. :thumbsup: Glenn makes a good point about oil pastel being a good primer for using oils. And, they're less toxic, especially when you don't eat them. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lemog
01-28-2006, 08:46 AM
Very well feeling with this one... really appreciate the lighting and expression of his face :applause:

Ego
01-30-2006, 09:14 AM
Woohoo hubby agreed to pose again. Only incident was when he got up without warning in the middle of a pose, got himself coffee and a snack, came back to his position with coffee and cheek full of snack. I looked at my drawing and at him and I was like 'wtf'. But other than that he was a good model.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/dsmall.jpg
Charcoal and some chalk on newsprint.

Oh this just in :D weeeeeeeeeeee
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/bargue.jpg

Art2
01-30-2006, 09:41 AM
hey hubby looks good!
Queenie you really are progressing fast :)
Next time when you colour/fill spaces with rough lines, try to follow the shape of the object (you can keep it rough though).
This will make it look less flat and give it some volume (dark and light part of his jacket).
Also I think the zipper should follow the curve of his body. The way it is now (kinda straight), it makes the jacket look flat too.
You really manage to put a lot of character in your drawings :thumbsup:

Ego
01-30-2006, 09:46 AM
hey hubby looks good!
Queenie you really are progressing fast :)
Next time when you colour/fill spaces with rough lines, try to follow the shape of the object (you can keep it rough though).
This will make it look less flat and give it some volume (dark and light part of his jacket).
Also I think the zipper should follow the curve of his body. The way it is now (kinda straight), it makes the jacket look flat too.
You really manage to put a lot of character in your drawings :thumbsup:
Great advise. Thanks Marlon;

Ego
01-30-2006, 10:06 AM
Next time when you colour/fill spaces with rough lines, try to follow the shape of the object (you can keep it rough though).


Can you give me an example? please :D
*You knew I was gonna ask that, right? :p

Rebeccak
01-30-2006, 12:17 PM
Heya Queensoul, :)

I agree with Marlon, your progress is great! :thumbsup: These portraits have a lot of life to them...and awww, your hubby's a cutie! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-31-2006, 07:35 AM
hahahaha Becca has a new avatar :D

Rebeccak
01-31-2006, 07:48 AM
Hehe...hehehe...hehehehehe...:D

Art2
01-31-2006, 07:49 AM
Can you give me an example? please :D
*You knew I was gonna ask that, right? :p

I'll see what I can do tonight, if I don't forget it... :)

Is Becca's new avatar made by Goro?

Rebeccak
01-31-2006, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Marlon: Is Becca's new avatar made by Goro?
Hehe, yep! Goro did a hilarious speed painting which I thought looked like me in a posting frenzy...:D...so I usurped it! :scream: I still have my old one though...speaking of which...yay, you're old one's back! :bounce:

Art2
01-31-2006, 08:03 AM
...speaking of which...yay, you're old one's back! :bounce:

Yeah, I couldn't recognize myself between all the posts LOL...

Ego
01-31-2006, 08:11 AM
Yeah, I couldn't recognize myself between all the posts LOL...
Me neither! I have to do double takes all the time :scream:
And it was compounded by the rumor of another art2 on the board :D

Ego
02-02-2006, 08:34 AM
Some quick studies from yesterday.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/quicksketches.jpg

Ego
02-02-2006, 08:36 AM
Study for an oil painting. (After I work out the hand problem I am having.) :P
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/angiesmall.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-02-2006, 01:20 PM
Hi...QueenSoul....:)

Really Really...LIKE....that last one...GREAT FEELING captured...you might make hand wedge
shorter, and show wrist,and a little forarm...maybe in more forshortened view...also use
shadow in that whole area to creat depth....can't wait to see this one painted...should
be .. BEAUTIFUL ...A lot of big improvements happening in your works lately...A real pleasure
for me to SEE them happening....:thumbsup: :arteest:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
02-02-2006, 02:06 PM
Thank you for the suggestion Glenn! That hand has been bugging the bejezus out of me. Now I know how am going to attack it in a few moments.

Oh dont go away Glenn, I wanna show you something real quick. Just give me 3 minutes :D

Ego
02-02-2006, 02:16 PM
Here is another study of the same subject, also for oil painting. Any suggestions for improvements on this one? Thanks in advance :D

Edit: Erm, I guess posting the drawing will be appropriate :p
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/oilstudy2.jpg

Ego
02-02-2006, 02:21 PM
Phew, I see Becca has arisen :D :D

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Queensoul: Phew, I see Becca has arisen :D :D
LMAO! I see I am quite predicable. :D Hey, I am really enjoying watching your progress! It seems you are really going at a good pace ~ I think that with each drawing you do, you are getting better! :thumbsup: Pretty soon we will have you on to hard~core Anatomy Studies and properly prepped for Florence. :)

Keep up the good work, Queenie! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
02-02-2006, 02:35 PM
Pretty soon we will have you on to hard~core Anatomy Studies and properly prepped for Florence. :)


Cheers,

~Rebeccak
Sounds serious, and definitely scary!!!
Well I got my Bargue book now so am gonna take a look at it so I can see how hard core I can get...weeeeeeeeee

PS: Is hard core the stuff with them skulls and bones? :scream:

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Queensoul: Sounds serious, and definitely scary!!!
Well I got my Bargue book now so am gonna take a look at it so I can see how hard core I can get...weeeeeeeeee

PS: Is hard core the stuff with them skulls and bones?

Arrrr! That it is, matey, that it is. :D Avast! Bring out yer Sketchpads...and start a studyin'. :scream: :bounce:

Ego
02-02-2006, 02:43 PM
Arrrr! That it is, matey, that it is. :D Avast! Bring out yer Sketchpads...and start a studyin'. :scream: :bounce:

EEEEEEEeeek :scream: :scream:
I looked at some pages of that stuff and thats the scariest stuff I've ever seen.
It seems there's a method to doing the studies and I have not read that far into the book to find out. But I'll do some serious searches into it. I dont want to look like a total dweeb when I get there.

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 03:13 PM
You won't look like a dweeb. :) Schools are nothing if they're not meant to teach. ;)

M.E.L.
02-02-2006, 06:58 PM
EEEEEEEeeek :scream: :scream:
I looked at some pages of that stuff and thats the scariest stuff I've ever seen.
It seems there's a method to doing the studies and I have not read that far into the book to find out. But I'll do some serious searches into it. I dont want to look like a total dweeb when I get there.

shouldn't you be boarding a plane to Italy now, sipping wine, beating people with baguette's and eating more spaghetti than possibly imaginable? :p

looks like you're making good progress on your work, keep it up or I'll be forced to layeth the smacketh down!

*disappears back into the shadows of production*


-s

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by M.E.L.: shouldn't you be boarding a plane to Italy now, sipping wine, beating people with baguette's and eating more spaghetti than possibly imaginable? :p

looks like you're making good progress on your work, keep it up or I'll be forced to layeth the smacketh down!

Quoted for agreement! :scream:

Ego
02-02-2006, 08:16 PM
shouldn't you be boarding a plane to Italy now, sipping wine, beating people with baguette's and eating more spaghetti than possibly imaginable? :p

looks like you're making good progress on your work, keep it up or I'll be forced to layeth the smacketh down!

*disappears back into the shadows of production*


-s
Dude I miss the living day lights out of you! Hurry back dammit before I reach over through Sony security and thwack you with my mahl stick!!!
And where did you bury Gav? Did you sneak him into the US in your suitcase or bury him in the basement of your condo? He disappeared the day you left :D

@Becca ;)

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 08:42 PM
Wow...there's so much going on in that paragraph that I'm not even sure I want to know about...:D

Ego
02-02-2006, 08:46 PM
Wow...there's so much going on in that paragraph that I'm not even sure I want to know about...:D
yeah, funny irc joke. I am laughing my bottom off. Gav probably figured we werent worth talking to with Shawn gone, so he logged off :D

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 08:51 PM
Ah. I take it then what I am seeing here is the IRC crew. :D I guess they don't call you 'Queen'soul for nothing. ;)

M.E.L.
02-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Dude I miss the living day lights out of you! Hurry back dammit before I reach over through Sony security and thwack you with my mahl stick!!!
And where did you bury Gav? Did you sneak him into the US in your suitcase or bury him in the basement of your condo? He disappeared the day you left :D

@Becca ;)

ha! there's day light? wooow, i never knew! ok..ok, i kid... they're treating me really well here. It'll be a while before I 'return' basically because I don't feel the need to have internet at the place i'm at in Seattle... i get home late and just feel like crashing heh.

Gav.. hmm, he's around. I know he's been doing some freelance work and also a couple other art tests so he may just be busy :p


-s

SpiritDreamer
02-02-2006, 10:03 PM
Hi...QueenSoul...sorry,..took a little nap..didn't see your post tell just now...:)

You might want to move the pit of her neck over a little to the right, as i'm looking at it.
Also female collar bones have more of a downward angle leading into the pit of the neck.
There is also a very sensual .. S ..curve in the female collar bone...search for it on the
model, and on your own neck. Might also make shoulder muscles more curved or rounded
and show where they tie into the collar bone, and arm mucle.. they kind if overlap there.
Male collar bones go straight across still having an ..S ...curve...
Female collar bones have more of a ... V ...shape with more of an ..S ...curve.
STUDY THE NECK MUSCLES carefully ...how they curve, and are conected to skull and
collar bones ect,...neck is very important area when making a female look female.
Also watch the way you place the eyeballs...if the center of the far eye is all the way
to the outter edge of the eye socket, then the center of the near eye will be all the way to
the inner edge of it's socket.
Hope I helped you a little...looking forward to seeing the progress on these paintings.
When your not sure,...feel the bones and muscles of your own face and neck ect....to
get an impression of how they work,..when in action, and when relaxed.

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
02-03-2006, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the advise Glenn. :)

norman365
02-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Hey, this stuff's great! I particuarly like the notebook sketches on the first page, they're so full of rhythm, you can feel the movement.

keep up the good work.

Ego
02-04-2006, 11:31 AM
Thanks Norman.

K, I have tried to fix some stuff on the oil painting study. Particularly her eyes so it doesnt look shifty anymore :scream:
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/oilstudy3.jpg


aaaarrrgh then I made the same study but fuller length. Now I am confused. I dont know which composition will make a more /better compelling compositional piece to paint.
Heeeeeeeellp :D
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/oilstudy5.jpg

Rebeccak
02-04-2006, 12:56 PM
Queensoul,

What an artist you are becoming! :bounce:These two pieces are great ~ your second piece is quite beautiful, particularly in the face, and would make a great painting, I think. :)

Wonderful stuff, Queenie! Such fantastic progress! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
02-04-2006, 01:23 PM
Becca, dear, thanks for always being there. I mean ALWAYS.

Rebeccak
02-04-2006, 01:30 PM
:) Hehe, we love ya, Queenie. ;) You're seriously making great strides here...you're definitely working hard and getting a lot out of your classes and the vids / dvds...which reminds me I should look into getting the ones you recommended, they look awesome! Definitely keep pushing those skills...Florence awaits! :bounce:

SpiritDreamer
02-04-2006, 02:16 PM
QueenSoul......# 2...full length...BEAUTIFUL ..:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see it painted...bright and warm I hope, to go with the rich skin color of
the model, that I imagine.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

norman365
02-05-2006, 11:34 PM
I'm not an expert, but I'd go for the second one. you get a lot more character out of your study.

Ego
02-13-2006, 10:31 AM
Getting into digital for the rest of the month, in anticipation of the next challenge. Thus am getting ready to bombard this place with an effort to finish some of my numerous unfinished images.

Here is a WIP of my niece in law Kira, continued from the sketchathon.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/kirasmalla.jpg

erilaz
02-13-2006, 12:15 PM
Beautiful soft shadows Ego. She's going to love it when you're done!

Rebeccak
02-13-2006, 12:24 PM
Fantastic work, Queensoul! :applause: You're really kicking arse! :D

Argh, now I must be offline for 4 straight hours...I hope I don't get hives! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
02-13-2006, 12:28 PM
You're really kicking arse!



i always do a double take when people actually spell that word correctly!:D

Ego
02-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Thank you Becca and Martin. Offline for four hours? Ok, that sounded painful.

Here is the image of Kira. She just came in with her dad and she loves this :D
She doesnt want me to color it though. So I suppose thats one big relief.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/kirasmallb.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-13-2006, 03:20 PM
Hi...QueenSOUL.....It's got.....SOUL....and SPIRIT ... BEAUTIFUL....:applause: :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
02-19-2006, 06:35 AM
Thank you Glenn :)

Kira's Dad wanted me to do a pencil drawing So I chose to draw it again in Pencils.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/kirapencils.jpg

erilaz
02-19-2006, 12:14 PM
Beautiful job Ego! Probably not as wonderful as the digital treatment (just being honest!), but the pencil work is lovely.

Ego
02-19-2006, 02:04 PM
Beautiful job Ego! Probably not as wonderful as the digital treatment (just being honest!), but the pencil work is lovely.
heh, was a dirty hatch job :D

Tagger
02-19-2006, 02:54 PM
great drawing queenie, you keep improving with each picture i see :)

Rebeccak
02-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Queensoul,

WOW, I think you're improving as much as anyone in the Forum! :bounce:It's great to see how far you've come, and there is just a really nice sense of peace to these pieces that is nice to see. The model really has a presence, which you've made come through the photo reference really nicely. :applause:

Any particular reason why your niece's father wanted the portrait in pencil also? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
02-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Any particular reason why your niece's father wanted the portrait in pencil also? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk
I dont really know. I didnt ask. For me any opportunity to practise, is a good one. We went to family dinner just now for my husband's birthday and the drawing was by the hallway and it sort of pleased me that there was likeness enough for it to be recognized as Kira.
Thanks a bunch Rebecca and Tags.
I am enjoying learning how to draw, really :D

Rebeccak
02-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Good point, Queenie. :D

Well, that's cool that your artwork is now being displayed! :) Must be a good feeling. I hope they've framed it, or do frame it. I'm sure Kira's super happy. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
02-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Arggg..I take back what I said earlier. The reason is because he does not 'trust' digital art. *shrug*

Oh well some pastel studies from class last two weeks that I forgot to post. Pastel on canson.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/woodpecker.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/pastel/littlestint.jpg

Squibbit
02-20-2006, 10:59 AM
birds have anatomy too??

i thought it was just peoples and monkeys



.

erilaz
02-20-2006, 11:37 AM
So pretty! I love birds. A really rich cast to them.

Rebeccak
02-20-2006, 01:51 PM
Lovely work, QS! :applause: Pay no mind to Squibbit, he's just jealous cos he lost his Anatomy in a bet a few years ago. Pity that, now he's just a pile of clothes and electrolytes in a jar, and occasionally burbles something about 'pink robots'. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
02-20-2006, 02:05 PM
Lovely work, QS! :applause: Pay no mind to Squibbit, he's just jealous cos he lost his Anatomy in a bet a few years ago. Pity that, now he's just a pile of clothes and electrolytes in a jar, and occasionally burbles something about 'pink robots'. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk
ROFLMAO!
I don't pay him no mind. One of these days, am gonna pluck all his feathers!
;) You picked one of my fav Bouggie pieces. I am starting on it right now!
Scout's honor!

Rebeccak
02-20-2006, 02:08 PM
I believe you, QS! :)

Hehe, sorry Squibb, couldn't resist...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
02-20-2006, 02:31 PM
Haha, I swear it. See?
Here is a portrait of a friend that I am working on. Gonna stop it now and get back to it when am finished with Bouggie.
You know what they say..hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for a Bouggie copy.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/wip/carina2small.jpg

Squibbit
02-20-2006, 02:32 PM
oh yea who's jealous for whutagain kikiwiki?

u do no pluckin' , queenie, squib's protected by heavens

.

ps. bouggie sucks , i bet he was fat

.

Ego
03-18-2006, 10:03 AM
***aaaaaawwwwwwwwww hugs my anatomy thread tightly. I have not forgotten you baby.

At the probing of Becca, I've decided to start doing some studies before getting to florence. Just so I can benchmark my skills before and after.
Here is a study I did from the Burne Hogarth Dynamic Figure drawing book. I used 2H, 2B, 6B pencils. Shocker! I do not have anything higher. :(
http://www.queensoul.com/images/florence/florence1.jpg

Rebeccak
03-18-2006, 02:29 PM
Great to see this study, Queensoul! :thumbsup: I can't wait to live vicariously through your Florence trip! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
03-18-2006, 06:39 PM
Great to see this study, Queensoul! :thumbsup: I can't wait to live vicariously through your Florence trip! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak
Tsk, like they could teach you anything there :D

Rebeccak
03-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Oh trust me darlin', they could teach me LOADS! I have serious Florence envy. :D ;)

SpiritDreamer
03-18-2006, 09:38 PM
Hi ..QueenSoul...:)

Nice Hogarth study...:applause:
Can't wait to see what comes from your Florence learning journey.
Should be .. GREAT ...... :thumbsup: .....BEST OF LUCK...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
03-19-2006, 05:19 AM
Oh trust me darlin', they could teach me LOADS! I have serious Florence envy. :D ;)
Haha, well girl, lets go! I need a room mate :D

Glen thank you a bunch.

su
03-19-2006, 01:40 PM
the pencil doesn't seem sharp, work on your pencil carving skills :P

tizianoadmirer
03-19-2006, 01:58 PM
Have a nice trip QS. And make sure you'll have LOTS of time when you go sketching in the Medici chapel (http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/m/michelan/1sculptu/medici/index.html) :)
-TA

Ego
03-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks for noticing my pencil Nyro. I keep em sharp enough ;) After using for awhile it does blunt out :P

Tizianoadmirer, I am glad you stopped by. And thanks for all the great refs.

aggie93
04-26-2006, 04:57 PM
Hey queen, just visiting your thread. Noticed you small sketch of the muscled dude. That was small with lots of detail. You know the only reason I started going to live model labs and working in these forums is so I can keep an art journal of my life and travels. I went to Norway two summers ago and visited some amazing museums and the national art museum there in Oslo and tried my best to make an art journal but found myself struggling to make quick sketches. I decided then to practice and get better at that.

Art2
04-26-2006, 06:03 PM
I've decided to start doing some studies before getting to florence.

I just saw your thread popping up in my CP :D
Hey I'll be in Italy by the end of May, not to Florence though...
Have a good time and show us more studies :wip:

Ego
04-26-2006, 06:32 PM
Hey Aggie and Marlon, thanks for coming to visit me. Ha you have helped me to resurrect this thread.

Here are some wips from the latest OFDW, Master copy of Rembrandt's Monk.
First I did a sketch on paper.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/titussketch.jpg
I then took in photoshop and did the grayscale WIPS
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/uglystagepart1.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/uglystagepart2.jpg

Ego
04-26-2006, 06:35 PM
And now I started coloring. :scream:
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/colorwip.jpg

Art2
04-26-2006, 06:47 PM
Nice job Queenie!
I have to ckeck out the latest OFDW...

Rebeccak
04-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Super impressive Queensoul! :bounce: Wow, your improvement is just amazing! Keep up the awesome work! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Ego
04-27-2006, 12:28 PM
Heya Beccalicious. Still wipping the colors.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/colorwip2.jpg

Ego
04-28-2006, 02:42 PM
teehee maybe I should have left it in black and white, just the way I like it.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/color.jpg

SaraD
04-28-2006, 02:49 PM
Really nice Queenie! Love the texture.

SpiritDreamer
04-28-2006, 03:39 PM
Hi....QueenSoul...:applause: :thumbsup:
What are you talking about...:scream: .....your colors on this painting are.....FANTASTIC
The best I have seen you do with color so far in fact.....very rich and warm feeling expressd,
a lot to do with the color expression.....GREAT JOB on this painting....QueenSoul ....really
enjoying seeing your talent come into bloom...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
04-28-2006, 05:55 PM
Queensoul,

I think your thread will soon be competitive with "Journey of An Absolute Rookie" my friend! :)
You're doing a wonderful job, and are convincing me to get some of those videos! :scream:

Looking forward to more of your progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
04-28-2006, 06:25 PM
Sara, Glenn and Becca, you guys absolutely wonderful to me. I don't know what I'd do without your encouragement and guidance. :thumbsup:

LoTekK
04-28-2006, 07:05 PM
Woot! Looking awesome. Aside from the lipstick. :D In your latest update, though, you seem to have lost some of the lovely drapery folds from the previous update. I want those back! :p

pushav
05-04-2006, 07:35 PM
That is an awesome painting! Keep that up!:thumbsup:

Ego
05-05-2006, 01:08 PM
Hey Verdell, where ya been? Welcome back and thanks for the support.
*waves at LotekK. Lipstick you say? Maybe he ate some red plums or something.

Here's an oil on canvas thingie am currently working on.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/amarawip.jpg

pushav
05-05-2006, 03:23 PM
Nice painting. I cant even paint that good with traditional paints. Keep up the good work.

I will try to update my anatomy thread more often now.

Ego
05-23-2006, 10:01 AM
Piece am working on while studying from Don Seegmillar's digital painting book.
I posted it in the 2D WIP section hoping to get some pointers but apparently just two bites. So I figure I'll just come on back home.
Cant color this now as am doing the OFDW 17 as well as the TDOME over at CA
http://www.queensoul.com/images/charcoalsketch1.jpg

EDIT:
woops, forgot to post Don's reference pic.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/donref.jpg

Ego
05-23-2006, 10:04 AM
OFDW 17. Copy of Gerome Leone Bashi Bazouk
This is my charcoal sketch.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/bashibazoukcharcoal.jpg

Ego
05-23-2006, 11:12 AM
I had fixed his crooked ear but have not uploaded that as I have started coloring him in photoshop. Also the length of his gun has been corrected.

SpiritDreamer
05-23-2006, 11:13 AM
:applause: WOW....Really strong line work in that last one, along with the tones and values...if you make
your brush work that powerfull, you will have yourself a real gem of a painting..you captured
his expression perfectly...are you going to paint this in oils on canvas...would look great.
If it were mine, I would scan it into the computer, and do a quick color skectch, just to get
the feeling for the colors ect. just a rough version, ...then I would go back and paint it with oils on canvas...using the same energy in the brush work as is in the drawing.
GREAT JOB so far....QueenSoul ....I think you have a winner on your hands in this painting, can't wait to see how this one comes out...keep posting your wips...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
05-23-2006, 09:10 PM
QS,

Finally managed to put this review together: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Queensoul/QS_Review-01_small.gif

full size version:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Queensoul/QS_Review-01.jpg

Hope it helps!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
Becca, thanks for taking the time out. I appreciate it a lot, as usual.

Art2
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Becca did a good review, so I have nothing to add except for some encouragements and hugs.
The hands are always a hard thing to draw. The other day I just took my digicam and struck the pose and snapped a pic. I was struggling too long with the hands. That digital photo helped a lot.
I don't know if you did, but I always start fleshing out the pose just like Becca had done before I start adding clothes. That way you can 'drape' the fabric around the body more convincingly. It makes it easier too.
The girl has a great expression, you should try to keep that.

That OFDW17 sketch is sweet! Especially the face.
Yup, OFDW17 is very tempting. I have to finish my Rembrandt first though...

Rebeccak
05-23-2006, 09:45 PM
QS,

No problem! :)

/me jumps on Marlon and directs his attention to his OFDW agreement. :D

Join in! :D

Cheers,

~Rk

Ego
05-23-2006, 09:51 PM
Heya Marlon. :) I'll work more on the figure. I have a lot on my plate now so I'll definitely come back to it. Have to finish the ofdw 17. you definitely should join!

Little update from OFDW 17. Just taking care of everything before going nuts with the head thingies.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/bashiwip1.jpg

Ego
05-24-2006, 03:34 AM
:applause: WOW....Really strong line work in that last one, along with the tones and values...if you make
your brush work that powerfull, you will have yourself a real gem of a painting..you captured
his expression perfectly...are you going to paint this in oils on canvas...would look great.
If it were mine, I would scan it into the computer, and do a quick color skectch, just to get
the feeling for the colors ect. just a rough version, ...then I would go back and paint it with oils on canvas...using the same energy in the brush work as is in the drawing.
GREAT JOB so far....QueenSoul ....I think you have a winner on your hands in this painting, can't wait to see how this one comes out...keep posting your wips...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn
Ah Glenn, sorry I didnt even see this until this morning. Thanks for the review. Yeah I had planned on doing it both digital and in oil. Right now am doing the digital because of time constraints and will do the oils thereafter. I sure hope you'll join in the current OFDW. I see a few pieces that scream for YOUR rendering. :scream:

pushav
05-25-2006, 05:38 AM
I see that you are getting better with each picture. Keep it up.:thumbsup:

Ego
05-27-2006, 08:09 AM
Phew! I finished with my copy of Jean-Léon Gérôme Black Bashi-Bazouk
s Bashi Bazouk at Rebecca Kimmel's Open figure drawing workshop number 17.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/bashifinal.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Hi.....OueenSoul....Not to bad...JUST KIDDING..:scream: ....FANTASTIC...:thumbsup: :applause: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

umbrellasky
05-27-2006, 12:04 PM
wow Queensoul! Great work, this last painting is awsome!! :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
05-28-2006, 07:48 PM
Queensoul! I hereby bequeath thee with the "Most Consistent Improvement" Award! :thumbsup: You are seriously making great strides and your efforts are paying off. Keep up the good work and maybe we can crash in Switzerland or France or wherever with M. Jacobs! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ego
05-28-2006, 08:55 PM
Thank you very much Glenn and Madaleine. Am so happy you stopped by :)

Ego
05-28-2006, 08:57 PM
Queensoul! I hereby bequeath thee with the "Most Consistent Improvement" Award! :thumbsup: You are seriously making great strides and your efforts are paying off. Keep up the good work and maybe we can crash in Switzerland or France or wherever with M. Jacobs! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk
Thank YOU teach! And I sure look forward to South of France where studio escalier is.
*writes down in notebook :D

DigitalSol
05-31-2006, 04:13 PM
Heya Queen, just stopped here to see your work, and wow, all your sketches and paints liked me too much, specially the entry for this OFDW, from now Im gonna spy on this thread.

Ego
06-03-2006, 05:12 PM
Thank you for visiting me Enrique. I'll be so honored if you'll stop by from time to time to see what am doing and give me valuable critic.

I am hunting my harddrives trying to locate some open figure drawing workshop' s I had done in the past, abandoned, got distracted or simply forgot to upload. If any is rescuable with a an hour work I'll fix them . I only have a day to do this since I have some pretty insane schedule coming up.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/ofdw1.jpg

Lemog
06-05-2006, 08:35 AM
Morning Queenie... I don't see this one before but it appear really good... maybe something a bit strange on the right leg... and a bit with the ear (dark rounded line...) but globally, the quality of drawing is here and I like much... :)

Ego
06-05-2006, 03:26 PM
The Lemog! I am very happy to see you drop by my thread. Your help is always appreciated. I saw the error you pointed out in the ear area. You are indeed correct. I neglected to put some shadows that separated the ear from the little section of the face showing.

I have tried to fix it now.http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/ofdw1c.jpg

SaraD
06-05-2006, 03:29 PM
Hey Queenie! Great result. And I see you mastered the "thingies" :scream:
Well done! Now - get on with the next one - spoil us :thumbsup:

DigitalSol
06-05-2006, 03:34 PM
Heya Queen, your are doing great with this one, i really like the work in both hands, overall great work.

Ego
06-07-2006, 05:57 AM
Oh hahah Sara .*waves. Them thingies almost done me in. By the way congrats on getting front page.! Sweet work.
Hi again Enrique. :) Thanks for stopping by :)

Squibbit
06-07-2006, 07:08 PM
congrats on getting front page.!


u too!


http://www.saunalahti.fi/panuom/QueenieFP01.jpg

.

Ego
06-07-2006, 07:12 PM
LMAO, squibs, you nutcase! :D

Ego
06-08-2006, 08:06 AM
Fixed yet again. Down with wonky ears!

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/ofdw1d.jpg

Lute
06-08-2006, 10:42 PM
wow... very beautiful..how many hours did it take you to complete this piece :3

DigitalSol
06-08-2006, 10:48 PM
I just love this one, queen, the warm palette is amazing :thumbsup: five stars from me

Ego
06-11-2006, 06:05 PM
Well here's a little update I did to figure drawing number 7 with Rebecca Kimmel aka The Teacher, and hong ly which I had posted earlier in this thread. I was going to color it, and make an environment for her. But when I got to this part, I just decided to leave it like this.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/figure8med.jpg

Rebeccak
06-12-2006, 10:50 PM
QS,

I think the torso and legs, and right hand are looking especially good ~ the main thing I would recommend working on (along with your Master Copies, hint hint ;)) are the arms. I think if you tweak those, and possibly the face a bit more, you will have a really nice finished piece on your hands. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

SaraD
06-13-2006, 09:01 AM
Cool QS! I think leaving it monochromatic adds to the beauty. Love the highlights.

Tagger
06-13-2006, 09:19 AM
great drawing, queenie. I realy love the highlights. maybe the midtones on the thigh make that area look a little flat... but i'm loving the drawing so far

Ego
06-30-2006, 12:45 PM
Thanks for stopping by guys.

Here is Head 1 of the 50 heads one month challenge.
After Durer's head of a negro. Head placement way off.
Media: Carbon pencils.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/durerneg.jpg

SpiritDreamer
06-30-2006, 01:06 PM
Hi...QueenSoul...:thumbsup:
Again ...your stuff goes beyond what is there....I LIKE IT....:applause:

There is a sense of perfection in the imperfect....BE YOU...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
08-01-2006, 07:29 PM
Hi guys, I am back from Florence. Just feeling a bit sick but am going to gradually put up a few things I got from the workshop.
It was an amazing experience and am so very glad I went. The drawing studio. ;)
I want to live here.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo2.jpg

Elsie
08-01-2006, 07:36 PM
Good to have you back Ego :). Now, we need to see some art so that we can all be wowzsed into oblivion by your stellar improvement from the fantastical magic school in florence :D art art art!

Ego
08-01-2006, 07:40 PM
View from the painting atelier. Looking directly down at the Piazza De la Republicca (am pretty sure I damaged the name) :p
http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo4.jpg

Ego
08-01-2006, 07:43 PM
Yeah, oh art :D They should just make it so that the minute you cross into florence, the muses just magically endow you with the art spirits of the old masters. Alas, that didnt happen. But it was fun anyway.


Life drawing class. Nitram charcoal, and chalk on fabriano roma paper.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/life1.jpg
Will post more tomorrow. Sick and tired a lot.

Thomasphoenix
08-01-2006, 07:51 PM
Hi Queenie,
Must have been great walking on the streets of firenze, in the great man's footsteps (Michelagnolo).Lucky you!:thumbsup:

Its a pilgrimage I will be looking forward to make!:)

Nice work on those paintings , you are improving rapidly ! The duhrer face is also cool!:)

rgds

Siju

Art2
08-01-2006, 08:19 PM
Oh wow, great drawing Queenie! Please show more.
Everytime I'm in Italy I manage to not go to Florence... always passing it...
Good to see you had good weather :)
More pics please!

razz
08-01-2006, 10:12 PM
So cool. Great life drawing. I do know how hard it is to draw from life. Well, for me it's maybe just much more harder to draw women, and if it's from life, I'm dead. Tried once, won't do that again for some time :) It's so cool, I mean, you could make turntable from all those drawings showed in the photo of drawing studio :D

Ego
08-04-2006, 10:28 AM
Hello Siju: Thanks for stopping by my thread. It was quite exciting roaming around the streets(when I was able to).
I could not stop gaping in wonder at everything. I think I went slightly nuts when I entered the ufizzi gallery.
Too bad they didnt allow picture taking. I was only able to squeeze out a couple of shots. Oh well, I could take photos of the statues outside. I will post these later as soon as Ms. Kimmel tells me where :D

Marlon: Thanks for stopping by buddy. Your continued support means a lot to me.
The weather was mostly very hot; But it rained a couple of days. I think 3 or four days in a row and ALWAYS starts at the same time: 3pm!
Such a weird thing. You could however taste the excitement in the air once it started raining. I saw some people take to the streets and start playing in the rain. Must have been some crazy tourists. :P
LOL razz! Thanks for visiting me. Life drawing is awesome. I was however shaking like a leaf during each session, not having really done full life figure drawing before (only portraits). I started relaxing when I realized that every single person in class was just as nervous as I was.
So I started adhering to the creed of the academy. '1. Stop spending so much time in front of your easel. 2; Dont make more than one mark at a time while you are standing in front of your easel. Step back into sight size, squint, step to the easel, make a mark and step back into sight size.
3. SQUINT, SQUINT, and SQUINT again. This apparently is the holy creed.
4. Draw what you see. Not what you think is there or what you know should be there. '
etc etc.

Life drawings:
Quick box in. No details. graphite on canson
http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo5.jpg

http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo6.jpg

Ego
08-04-2006, 10:30 AM
Life Drawing: figure box in.
Graphite on canson paper

http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo7.jpg

Ego
08-04-2006, 10:31 AM
Life drawing. Charcoal on Roma paper
http://www.queensoul.com/images/flo8.jpg

urgaffel
08-04-2006, 11:47 AM
Hey Queenie! Good to see you back and with quite an improvment in the luggage ;) The lifedrawing you posted on the previous page is really nice, you've leveled up for sure (sorry, me and Ailsa were joking about leveling up in "art" the other day) :D Anyway, you've made me want to attend that workshop... Argh so many things to do and so little money and time :sad:

Btw, since you've been gone, here's a smiley I did for Rebecca: http://www.urgaffel.com/smileys/rebeccak.gif (and a bonus one: http://www.urgaffel.com/smileys/greedydrool.gif)

erilaz
08-04-2006, 11:53 AM
Super Queenie Ultimate Power-Up Attack!

Great to have you back Ego. Your lighting has improved incredibly in those life studies. Many hugs.:)

SpiritDreamer
08-04-2006, 12:55 PM
Hi...QueenSoul...:applause:

Really like the charcoal and chalk woman drawing, and the last charcoal man drawing...nice lighting and atmosphere, great technique.
Sounds like you had a FANTASTIC ADVENTURE, and created a memory worth cherishing..:thumbsup:
GREAT to have you back on the forum, and can't wait to see you put all the things you were taught over there into practice in your new works...:bounce: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
08-04-2006, 04:12 PM
awwwww thank you very much guys. Martin, it sure is nice to be back and itching to have a go with the techniques. Glenn, you are correct, I cant wait to start practising the heck out of those techniques.
Hey Peter, for sure! I wish I could go back too :D. Like the teachers told us when we expressed jealousy over their displayed work, 'constant practice.'
Some heads I had done for Rebecca Kimmel. Master copy
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/head6.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/head7.jpg

Ego
08-04-2006, 04:13 PM
And another

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/head8.jpg

Cant wait for my easel to get here.
Hmm may have to take down this last one. Something has gone wacky with the charcoal during scan.
hey Peter I love those smilies; Hope you dont mind if I snag it http://www.urgaffel.com/smileys/rebeccak.gif

Rebeccak
08-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Queenie,

You are really kicking a**! :bounce:I totally love seeing the studio pictures and the picture of the piazza. If you could also post those pictures of your teachers, I might be able to use Peter's new drooling icon. :D Apart from the silliness, I really think that Glenn is right about the Portraits ~ you've really invested something of yourself in them, and it shows, as they have an emotional resonance beyond the page. Nice work there, QS! As well I love how you describe your experience at the Uffizi and in Florence in general. Your life drawings show so much promise and I am so proud of you for having improved so much! It's fantastic to see the depth of your enthusiasm, and I really look forward to seeing what step you take next in your artistic path.

Cheers, :)

~RK

Ego
08-07-2006, 06:04 AM
Hey guys, for those that need refs. Here is the first set from Florence. I tried to shrink a little but really the purpose is to have it a bit high so you still have details.
ref1 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref1.jpg)
ref2 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref2.jpg)
ref3 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref3.jpg)
ref4 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref4.jpg)
ref5 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref5.jpg)
ref6 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref6.jpg)
ref7 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref7.jpg)
ref8 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref8.jpg)
ref9 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref9.jpg)
ref10 (http://www.queensoul.com/images/ref10.jpg)

These are large, so I recommend, right click, save as blah blah.

Rebeccak
08-07-2006, 04:40 PM
Hi Queenie,

These are great refs! Thanks for posting these. :)

Cheers,

~RK

Cris-Palomino
08-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Great drawings, Queensoul, and yummy ref.

Thanks,
Cris

Ego
08-07-2006, 06:26 PM
Thanks Beccalicious and Cris!

Ego
09-02-2006, 02:50 PM
Life painting. Oil on oil color paper.
This got some dirt/lint on it and I still dont know how to get rid of it without ruining the painting. So forgive the nasty little specs on there.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/krissm.jpg

SpiritDreamer
09-02-2006, 03:55 PM
Hi.....QueenSoul...:thumbsup: REALLY like that last one...nice composition..:applause:
Might be a good time to try using some colored transparent ...TINTS
Will cover the lint ect.,....plus act like a unifying element in your painting...uniting the backgroung with the portrait...Some of the old masters used a lot of colored transparent TINTS, to creat a great luminious depth in thier paintings...DaVinci...:)
Might make this mishap of lint ect. work to your advantage...might open the door to something you haven't tried yet....TINTING EXPERIMENTS....JUST A THOUGHT.....:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
09-02-2006, 04:13 PM
QS,

Nice to see your portrait here. :)

I would suggest watching the alignment of the eyes - also one thing that might give the portrait more depth is a bit of a highlight (small, perhaps a shade of light blue) somewhere along the cheek at it's highest point. If your canvas is still wet, a nice amount of a light blue mixed in with the orangey-brown of the face will really make a nice neutral gray that should lean toward the blue in a slight way.

I like the richness of the shirt and neck. At this point, the face feels slightly less rich (this could be due to the camera). Take a look at the works of Frida Kahlo for background / foreground color combinations.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/k/kahlo/kahlo_selfmonkey.jpg


http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/377bg.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/89/200px-Frida_Kahlo_%28self_portrait%29.jpg

I would suggest using a slightly richer hue in the background, so that you are not just 'killing space' but really using a nice subtly complementary color combination to frame the man's face.

Hope this helps, and looking forward to your progress. :)

Cheers,

-Rebecca

Ego
09-03-2006, 01:06 AM
Thank you very much Glen and Becca. I will read your advise indepth when I wake up. Its 2am and we just came in from Amsterdam. Nasty server problem and zero staff on duty this weekend.

NR43
09-03-2006, 11:52 AM
Queensoul

Just went to your entire thread and it was a great trip to be honest.
I downloaded your refs from Italy... I'll see if I can get my hands on those :)
I was especially enjoying your digital studies
Thanks for sharing your work n knowledge.
:wavey:

Ego
09-30-2006, 07:04 AM
NR43 thank you for stopping by. :)
I have been quite busy at the art school trying to get used to the insane pace of the life painting classes. I know I have made up my mind that I cannot paint anything serious in 5 to 30 minutes; I hope when I get used to the pace some more, I can make more connection between the model and my canvas. These are some of the poses I managed to sketch and photograph.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure5sm.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure7sm.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure8sm.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure9sm.jpg

Ego
09-30-2006, 07:05 AM
Not a lot to do in the time aloted, but am beginning to enjoy it.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure10sm.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/academy/figure11sm.jpg

Cris-Palomino
09-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Hello, Queensoul.

It is great to see you work on your studies. I think that Rebecca's suggestions and examples are very good. We could all do with studying Frida's work.

I noticed that you tend to stop short of doing the hands. I know that hands and feet have always been problematic for me and have, over the years, forced myself to focus on them more because I actually love them.

I would love to see you start to put them in more...if they are a bit out of your comfort zone...to push yourself.

Cris

Ego
09-30-2006, 01:57 PM
Hello, Queensoul.


I noticed that you tend to stop short of doing the hands. I know that hands and feet have always been problematic for me and have, over the years, forced myself to focus on them more because I actually love them.

I would love to see you start to put them in more...if they are a bit out of your comfort zone...to push yourself.

Cris
They are not in my comfort zone but thats not why they are not there . Its simply that I never get to it in the short poses in life drawing. As I continue to grow accustomed to painting/drawing the figure in 20 minutes, I'll start getting them in :D :D

SpiritDreamer
09-30-2006, 05:25 PM
Hi....QueenSoul...:thumbsup:

I don't know what the program is in your class, or if there are rules or whatever, but if you
only have a short time to capture the figure, maybe try just making a solid peanut shape.. in the shell, with
a big brush or the side of your charcoal ...for the pelvic area small end of peanut, and for the torso, large end of peanut, to start with
..Then add the legs/feet coming out of the small end of peanut...then the arms/hands coming out of the large part of peanut...in that order.
next put the neck, skull, face, hair...in that order.
That is the system that I learned from Burne Hogarth...it's fast, simple, and acurate..gets all the basic volumes down first...then add detail last...if there is time...:scream:
Always look for that peanut shape to start with..once you see it,and decribe it with paint, charcoal or whatever... it is all down hill from there...:)
Hope this system helps you....works like a charm, once you master it...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ego
10-01-2006, 06:00 AM
Glenn, thanks as usual for your help. I am getting slightly used to the mad pace of the practice sketches in class and the 'different' rules they have. Anyway, am not discouraged. After one month of a 9 year course, I feel like am going to make it. :p I have it on good authority that the poses will slow off gradually after 6 months. We are not supposed to put any details on these. Just the arabasque, or whatever that means. But anyhoot.. just wanted to share what I was doing. These sketches should not even have left my house :p