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Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 06:57 PM
This thread is for the work of Spirit Dreamer, a quite prolific artist who is very active on the Anatomy Forum. I'll start out his thread ~ Spirit Dreamer is actually two people, Spirit Dreamer and his lovely wife Mrs. Spirit Dreamer, who has quite generously typed Mr. Spirit Dreamer's posts. :)

The Spirit Dreamers Two have been some of the most dedicated posters to this Forum, and particularly to the OFDWs, so I am happy to kick off this thread for them ~ I wouldn't do it for just anyone. ;)

At any rate, here goes...

PLEASE NOTE: THE FOLLOWING IS THE WORK OF SPIRIT DREAMER. :)


Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 06:58 PM
WIP done for Open Figure Drawing Workshop 001:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nudes.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:05 PM
WIP OFDW 001:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/5_nudes.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:06 PM
Final Piece, OFDW 001:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Awakening_Dream.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:07 PM
WIP OFDW 2:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nudes_5.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:08 PM
WIP OFDW 002:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_6_to_9.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:09 PM
WIP OFDW 002:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_3_-_5.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:09 PM
WIP OFDW 002:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_2_close.jpg




http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_2_full.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:10 PM
Final Piece, OFDW 002:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_5.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:13 PM
WIP OFDW 003:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Hi_Res_3_21.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Hi_Res_face_3_21.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:14 PM
WIP OFDW 003:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/37.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/38.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/39.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/40.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Face.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:16 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_02.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_11.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_12.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_14.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_15.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_16.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu_Face.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:18 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Two_Figures_2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CG_Two_Figures.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:19 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu-30.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/ZhuZhu_Face_9_27.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:19 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu-30-2.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:20 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu-_41.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:21 PM
WIP OFDW 004:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zhuzhu-62.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:22 PM
WIP OFDW 004:


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/zhuzhu_combo-15.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Composed.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Composed_close.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:24 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_27.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_28.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_29.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:25 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Compose_2.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_45.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:26 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang-49.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang-49_face.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:26 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_60.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_60_face.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:27 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang-64.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang-64_skirt.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:28 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ben_3.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:28 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_76_face.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Liang_76.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:30 PM
WIP OFDW 005:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/liang-124-a.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/liang-124-b.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/liang-124-c.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:31 PM
WIP OFDW 006:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-24.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-25.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:32 PM
WIP OFDW 006:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-28.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-28_close.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-30.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:32 PM
WIP OFDW 006:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-35_close.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron-35.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:33 PM
WIP OFDW 006:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron_40_face.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ron_40.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:34 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_pepper_1.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_pepper_2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_pepper_4.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:35 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petite-7.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petite_Close_-7.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:36 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petite.face17.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:37 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_petite_face_17.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_petite_face_28.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_petite_28.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:38 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petiite_33.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petiite_33_face.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_hot_petiite_007-02-1-a_face.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:39 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_30_face.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_36_face.jpg

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:39 PM
WIP OFDW 007:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_45_face.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_45.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/red_head_51.JPG

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:42 PM
Ok! That's it! :arteest:

From now on, Mr. and Mrs. Spirit Dreamer will be copying and pasting posts from other WIP threads here. Looking forward to seeing more great work! :wip:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
12-10-2005, 07:44 PM
such a unique style and exceptional wips.

A very interesting thread.

Spirit Dreamer is actually two people, Spirit Dreamer and his lovely wife

ah, the sign of true love, isn't it? Sounds like you accidentially dropped a line of poetry, my dear rebecca...:)

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 07:46 PM
Mr. Mu,

Hehe, poet I am definitely not! :p But I agree with you the Spirit Dreamer has a great, unique style which I hope to see continue to develop! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
12-10-2005, 08:38 PM
A BIG THANK YOU TO REBECCA FOR ALL THE WORK SETTING UP THE THREAD.:bounce:

AND A THANK YOU TO MR. MU ALSO!:)

From a very grateful
Mr and Mrs Spirit Dreamer

Rebeccak
12-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Spirit Dreamers, :)

No problem! Hehe, I think the two of you are the only ones to have participated in every single OFDW ~ you deserve it. :)

It's also cool to see all of your work together in one place. It's easy to forget how much work you do over time, and this is a good way to remember! :thumbsup:

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
12-11-2005, 12:29 PM
Design commissioned for a shirt:

The Shirts (http://www.cafepress.com/glenngallegos)

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Shirts_for_Web.JPG


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Elk_2.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-11-2005, 10:55 PM
Finshed Version #002


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Nude_in_Forest.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-11-2005, 11:19 PM
My 15 minute speed painting done for QUEEN SOUL'S SKETCH-A-THON THREAD

Time to complete: 15 minutes, exactly!


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/15_minute_sketch2.jpg

drawMonger
12-12-2005, 10:45 PM
Hi Spirit Dreamer! It's great to see all of your work in the one place, esp. the first few pieces which i missed the first time around. Fantastic work!

Also, as a fellow fan of wildlife art, I *love* the stag image :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
12-12-2005, 10:53 PM
WIP for 008

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/008-2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/008-6.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/008-10.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-13-2005, 12:18 AM
DrawMonger...Thanks ...You just put a big smile on my face, and made my day...BETTER...
That stag was a lot of fun to paint, a lot different from what I have been doing lately.
See you on #9 I hope, ... Your #8 came out great by the way, you have a way with
faces...BEAUTIFUL...:thumbsup:
Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
12-13-2005, 10:42 PM
WIP for 008 :

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/008-13.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/008-15.jpg

pushav
12-14-2005, 04:56 AM
Nice work and job.
:thumbsup:

Thomasphoenix
12-14-2005, 01:05 PM
Terrific Color pallette! Very atmospheric!
And excellent figure work!beautiful work Glenn:thumbsup:.

Rebeccak
12-14-2005, 01:27 PM
Great stuff, Spirit Dreamer! :) Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
12-14-2005, 06:23 PM
Hey...Pushav.....THANK YOU... Miss seeing you and your painting around, but I know
your busy right now, school and all. Looking forward to seeing that painterly style of
yours develope, when you get back, plus Rebecca can stand a few more grey hairs,
will make her look more distinguished, and authoritative I think... LOL... :eek:
See You Around and
Take Care
Glenn


Siju // ThomasPhoenix....THANKS for stopping by, and looking at my paintings. Glad you
enjoyed them, and thanks for the great complements....excellent figure work...I take that as
a great honor, especially coming from an artist like you, who has such great figure drawing
ability and skill.:bounce:
THANKS AGAIN
Take Care
Glenn


Hi...Rebecca......Thank YOU.....Would'nt be possible without you :thumbsup: ...Seriously
THANK YOU....THANK YOU ...THANK YOU...THANK YOU...
Take Care and :)
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
12-15-2005, 12:09 AM
WIP for 009

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ben.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-15-2005, 11:02 PM
Wip 009

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ben_2.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-17-2005, 01:53 PM
Wip 009

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Ben-009-14.jpg

Arctis
12-17-2005, 03:33 PM
Hi,

You've got a good pictural feeling, and a good eye to get the pose and the proportions.
However, If I may give you an advice, don't spend too much time with PS or Painter effects, and try to push your painting further (more contrast, more defined shapes) using simple brushes & basic tools, just to train your eye and hand.
Go to the essential.

Keep it up !

SpiritDreamer
12-17-2005, 09:10 PM
Arctis... Thanks for takeing the time out to check out my thread...:) ...
Your right about my useing too many special effects... Rebecca has been telling me the same
thing for months now, and I know she is also right... BUT on the other hand, I can't learn
what they are capible of achieving, without trying them out, and what better place to try
them out on, than my own paintings. In the end, I will keep what I think works well, for my
style of painting, and disregard the rest...No experimentation= NO progress, which leads to
STAGNATION... BUT then again on the other hand... LOL...:eek:
By the way...Thats some really GREAT painting you've been doing lately, and congratulations
on your books,... publication... Can't wait to see it...:thumbsup:
Take Care and
Thanks Again
Glenn

Arctis
12-17-2005, 10:27 PM
I understand the dilemma.
But I think that the real challenge is to represent what you see / imagine with simple tools. If you succeed with basic brushes, it means you REALLY control what you produce.
The problem with special effects is that you hardly control the final, it happens like a surprise, and you never stop to discover new effects etc... At the end, in a way, it's the computer doing most part of the work.

I personnaly just use 4 tools in PS : a basic airbrush, a simple pen, a brush a bit pastel-like, and an eraser. In traditionnal media, there's no special fx, never, and painters have made such masterpieces !

Go to the essential, once again, so that your artistic abilities wont be limited to a software 's new functions.

Bye.

SpiritDreamer
12-18-2005, 03:17 AM
Arctis....Thanks for the great, honest and valid opinion...I totally agree...:)
...BUT..On the other hand.LOL... If that rationalization is taken to it's logical conclusion,then
that would mean, that we should all go back to finger painting with mud, on stone walls...
ROF.. LOL.........Sorry,I just could not resist that one...:)
There is a happy medium to everything, and I am sure to find mine, hopefully,
and sucessfully, just as you have found yours...well not just as, but some how and some way.
Time will tell.
Thanks again Arctis...and like I said earlier, I'm cutting back on the special effects, thanks
to Rebecca's sound advice, and now yours also. I've learned a lot from both of you,and
look forward to any sugestions you have, now and in the future concerning my work..:)
Take Care
Glenn

umbrellasky
12-18-2005, 11:46 AM
Awsome work!! Very inspiring. I didn't have time to read through all the comments, so sorry if I am repeating what some one has already said. What program do you use? is it painter?

Thanks, stunning work!! :)

SpiritDreamer
12-18-2005, 11:24 PM
Hi
Enialadam...
THANK YOU...
Really nice to hear my work has inspired another painter....great feeling....:)
I checked out those paintings you did recently,... BEAUTIFUL....
Your portrait of your friend, has a real nice feeling to it,but my favorite is Snow White...:thumbsup:
That one is a knockout, really glad I saw it...GREAT PAINTING...
Thanks for stopping by, made my day brighter..THANKS...:)
Take Care.......and yes, all my work was done useing PAINTER #8
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
12-19-2005, 10:29 PM
Tutorial to Lil Fairy
Hi
First thing I would recommend is buying the book "Drawing the Human Head" by Burne Hogarth. Especially for anyone doing portraiture. An understanding of facial muscles and their reaction to time is a must for depicting correctly how and why an older person's face looks the way it does. Another factor that is essential is where. If you don't know where a muscle on a face originates, and where its destination lies under the skin, you will never end up with a convincing face, that is alive with emotions, that range from subtle almost imperceptable to extremely obvious. Understanding the nature of a muscle and how it relates to time, circumstance and function is essential for depicting the human form correctly. And for doing justice through your painting to the marvel of evolution that is the human form.

Method used to re-paint your face.
Step #1 Tinted picture using colored spotlights found in effects, top of screen.
Step #2 Corrected proportions using "liquid lens" brush. A better name would be "shaper brush" I think. Allows painted surface to be pushed, pulled, stretched and compressed. Just as if you were manipulating a piece of clay. Go to layers top of screen, press that and menu appears, At bottom of menu is dynamic plug-ins, press that and another menu comes up, liquid lens is on that one. Press liquid lens and you're in business. Experiment with each liquid lens brush, they are all great. I used the top left one for re-shaping face.
Step #3 Go to windows, top of screen, press that, menu comes up. Press "show brush creator", box appears with all your brushes and settings. In top left corner are two small boxes, one on left, press to get various types of brushes. One on right gives variations within that category. Press box on left, menu appears, scroll down, find tinting, select it and you have tinting brushes. Now press little box on right. Menu appears. I just used two of these for this painting. Basic round modified slightly to get texture, used to create age spots. Next and final brush used was "oily round 35", found in tinting section also. Also menu below the two little boxes where you get brushes from select size from there. And box will come up right of menu. Control size of brush from there. Leave that whole box on screen as you paint. So you can adjust size as you paint. When you want it to disappear just touch your painting behind it and vice versa.
Well that is all there is to it.
Just Kidding LOL.
The best advice I can give is while painting, don't think of it in terms of lines. That is drawing. Think in terms of frosting a cake. Only you are using paint and a brush or pallette knife.
Have fun! :)
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Old_Man_Final.jpg
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SpiritDreamer
12-20-2005, 11:16 PM
Just having some fun composing with light and shadow.
Using other peoples figures that I painted over in these forums.
Just for fun.
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/composite_10.jpg
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SpiritDreamer
12-22-2005, 10:33 PM
Just Doodling around.-- 12-22-05
Used Painter Thick and Thin Pen #5


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/FAST_DRAWING-4.jpg

Mu
12-23-2005, 07:15 AM
Hey Glenn,


I like these very much - interesting to see as it is so different from what I have seen before of you.

Impressive also, how you experiment with completely different looks - or do all of your sketches/doodles look like this?

:thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
12-25-2005, 03:10 PM
Hi....MR MU...:)
I have tons of note books, filled with these kinds of doodles, all done useing ball point pen.
They are just little exercises that let my imagination run free. Some are preconceived ideas
put down in visual form, and some are unplanned happenings, that just happen as i'm doing
them. Some of them form into composistions, that become finished drawings, and even turn
into paintings sometimes. I also write my thoughts down in the form of poems, and then put
them into visual form. I think the post of doodles above, is the first time I tried this method
of drawing useing a pen in Painter, on the computer though. Kind of nice...never run out of
ink, or paper, and takes up less room. If you would like to see more of my doodles that
turned into finished drawings, go to the drawing section in my Web Site,there are a few
more of the ones I like there.

Thanks..MR MU
Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
12-25-2005, 06:19 PM
One of my methods for forming a visual image from a thought.

First Step: The Thought
In this case
Religious fundamentalism and how it always made and makes the earth
a worse place, instead of a better place for everyone
As it travels through time

Second Step: Turn Thought into a Poem

The Poem:

IGNORANT BLISS
Religious fundamentalist
Going through life backwards
Hooked on a Book,
Never mistaken,
Never Shaken
By the world he's been breaking
It's his own rules he's been mishaping
Blaming, shaming or just inflaming
Condemned by condemning
It's his own inflated ego that makes him so evil
Self righteous exploitation
Takes his nation
On a backwards journey
Into darkness


Third Step...Turn Poem into...Vision...

IGNORANT (http://artbyglenngallegos.com/DrawingsBig/DrawingBig32.html) BLISS...

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Backwardness_Through_Time.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-27-2005, 10:55 PM
WIP 010

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Model_10_4.JPG

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_7.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-29-2005, 12:09 AM
To ..Icey...SaraD ..and anyone else who cares to read this...:)

Tricks and manipulation have been used since the first artist arived on the scene, and
have been used in every medium that has ever been created.
To exclude them from your bag of tools, or tricks, would be a big mistake in my opinion.
It would simply mean that you are afraid of, or have not taken the time to MASTER, and
become MASTER OF the tools that have become available at this moment in time.
We are as artist, in the business of creating beauty ect. thru illusion, by whatever means
that become avalible to us.
FILTERS and MANIPULATION, ARE JUST ANOTHER SET OF TOOLS OR TRICKS, TO BE ....
MASTERED, AND BECOME MASTER OF ..:)
The general public, or main audience, do not care, or know if filters and manipulation
were used to creat what they see. All they care about, is wheather they like it or not.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHEATING...That is a restriction imposed upon artist, by
other artist, who have, and always have had the mentality, that is and has always been
....AFRAID OF CHANGE... :)
If we never took advantage of what has become, and is avalible to us as artist, we would
STILL BE FINGER PAINTING, WITH MUD, ON STONE WALLS...:)

This is just my opinion on the subject of FILTERS AND MANIPULATION, IN THIS NEW MEDIUM..:eek: ...:)

Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
12-29-2005, 10:50 PM
Wip 010



http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_21.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_combo.jpg

SpiritDreamer
12-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Wip 010 again


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_6.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_combo_6.jpg

erilaz
01-01-2006, 11:29 AM
You've got some amazing control over light in your studies Spirit Dreamer! I'm loving the progress! :bowdown:

SpiritDreamer
01-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Thanks...Erilaz // Martin...:)
I've been studying Caravaggio's painting technique and the way he used shadow and light.
I'm trying to see if his technique's , and the effects they produce can be recreated using
the PAINTER program I have...
A lot of experimenting, but I think I am finally getting close, but still have a long...long...long
ways to go.
Thanks again, and i'm glad you are enjoying my experiments..:)

Take Care
Glenn

Thomasphoenix
01-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Nice Brushwork! And great composition as usual!I like ur sense of color!And strong figures!Its all there:thumbsup:!Grrreat stuff Glenn!
I received the book from Alibris,Ive posted studies from that in my Anatomy thread,Thanks for that,the book is cool!

SpiritDreamer
01-03-2006, 10:42 PM
Wip 010



http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_close_10.jpg



http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/model_10_combo_10.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-04-2006, 02:41 AM
Siju // Thomasphoenix...Thank You ...VERY..VERY...MUCH...:)
Still have a long ways to go, but am learning something new, from each one I do.
Will get to where I want to be, sooner or later, slowly but surely...I HOPE..
If not, it will be an exciting adventure along the way..none the less...:bounce:
Also am glad your enjoying your new book, I think I will order that one myself..
Really enjoying The Arcane Eye Of Hogarth....Some deep thoughts in there...NICE...:)
Thanks again for turning me on to it...:thumbsup:
Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
01-04-2006, 10:19 PM
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SpiritDreamer
01-05-2006, 10:41 PM
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SpiritDreamer
01-06-2006, 02:20 PM
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SpiritDreamer
01-08-2006, 02:16 PM
Jan 8 2006
Another doodle from the imagination
Watercolor Painter 9


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/head_study_8.jpg

Rebeccak
01-08-2006, 02:19 PM
Like this piece a lot! Subdued blue / black, works for me! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-08-2006, 04:59 PM
THANKS....REBECCA...:) .

Was really enjoyable to get away fom the photos for a moment, and work strait
from the old imagination...each method has it's importance, but I don't think that
one can live without the other...:)

Take Care
Glenn

Amerasu
01-08-2006, 07:46 PM
Great stuff, and all in one place too! I've seen some of it in the various OFDW threads but it's nice to see everything in one place, plus some of your other doodles and pics. I really like the stag by the way, very nice.

I really like the warm colours you seem to use. Everything is bathed in soft, golden light and the lighting is just excellent. It's so warm and gentle. That's what I like most about your style, it's very artistic :)

Thanks for the book recommendations!

SpiritDreamer
01-08-2006, 11:09 PM
Amerasu...Thanks a million! Glad my paintings bring a positive pleasure to your
senses. There is something about atmospheric painting that creates a magic of
its own. DaVinci and all the other great masters realized it I think, and the Chinese
painting masters realized it centuries before them. Still holds magic for modern eyes too,
I suppose.
And probably always will. The golden colors just add to the feeling or mood already
created by the atmosphere.
Thanks again Amerasu for appreciating this effect in my work,
Take Care
Glenn

shyamshriram
01-09-2006, 01:17 PM
AWESOME THREAD ! :buttrock:
Thanx for sharing :applause:

SpiritDreamer
01-09-2006, 09:42 PM
Hi...Shyam...:)

Thank you so much for stopping by, i'm really glad you enjoyed my work.
I've been admireing that self portrait of your's for some time now, ever since you
first did it, in fact... kind of sticks in your mind kind of portrait. Really strong
expression and mood...NICE...

I always like to share...after all, in the end you can't take it with you,..so might as
well share it along the way...:)

Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
01-10-2006, 10:29 PM
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GonzaloGolpe
01-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Cool stuff!!:wip: Ill be watching to your progress hehe.

(Apart from this, a curious thing: your surnames "Gallegos"??:surprised ) Im "gallego"!!haha. I explain myself. In spanish "gallego" means "galician" .Im from Galicia, on the north of Spain, so Im Galician= "gallego" .What a tongue twister):wavey:

SpiritDreamer
01-11-2006, 12:58 PM
Hi...Gonzalo...THANKS..:) .Glad you enjoyed my works..

As far as I have been able to research my family tree back is to nortern Spain.
My people left there, and ended up in Peru in the early 1500's, and worked their way
up north into Californa and Texas which is where my Grand Mother is from, she belonged
to the Tribe of people already liveing there called ..COMANCHE..She and my Grand Father
moved to East LA Californa, where my Father and Myself were born. My Mother was from
Boston Ma..and her people came from France on her Fathers side, and England on her
Mothers side......So I guess that makes me an all AMERICAN MUTT...or a very
SPECIAL..HYBRED..LOL...Just an EARTHLING ...:shrug:...:) .

Take Care
Glenn

GonzaloGolpe
01-11-2006, 02:49 PM
Wow, very interesting your history hehe. Id like to know my ancients but...its difficult here hehe.

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01-12-2006, 10:35 PM
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erilaz
01-13-2006, 12:08 AM
I like the interesting "cracks" style you're going through. Some brilliant work starting to pile up in this thread. So many pages to check! :)

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01-14-2006, 01:01 PM
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ErichSchreiner
01-14-2006, 07:06 PM
Wow Glenn, very cool paintings (page before). The figures fit nicely into their environments :)

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2006, 12:39 PM
ERILAZ // MARTIN...

Glad you enjoyed my thread, and also happy that you liked the cracked look on those
two figures above. They were experiments useing a water color palette knife in PAINTER #9.
Was told by MR MU, That they look like they are made of OBSIDIAN ..may be on to
something new and nice with that experiment and technique. Worth further exploration
and experimentation I think....OBSIDIAN SCULPTURE, done in paint..never been done
before that I know of...Thanks for telling me that you like them, makes me want to make
more.:)


EL CHEIF // ERICH

Thanks for stopping by...and glad you enjoyed your visit...:)
Just trying to make paintings combining these different models, that Rebecca has
provided us with...sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't, but it's alway's
fun trying to make it work anyway,..and one idea seems to lead to another.
Anyway, I learn something new from each one, and it's a great way to practice
composition,..color ect.

Take Care
Glenn

Lyneran
01-16-2006, 01:57 AM
awesome work! i especially love your paintings from the ofdw, and the style of the ones at post#92. how do you blend the colors for the skintone? your paintings look amazing! :applause:

SpiritDreamer
01-17-2006, 12:29 AM
Hi...Lyneran...;)
On frame #92 above on this page that you liked and mentioned...I used a thin water color palette knife found in water color section PAINTER #9...Went from black to light gray
on figures,..made a background on a separarte layer, and then superimposed figures onto
that layer, in both cases.
In answer to how I blend the colors on my figures...I don't....I try to get colors
that are close in value, and then put them next to each other, useing soft tinting
brush found in tinting section PAINTER #9. If there is an edge that I don't want between
the colors, I use the SOFTENER brush found in the tinting section also. This brush softens
the undesired edges, without destroying the color harmonies I have in place there.
There are a lot of other steps in my painting method after the first steps I just mentioned.
You can follow my painting technique, on the figure I just started...posted right above.
I will be more than happy to answer any questions on each new post of this work in
progress...I will be useing the same painting technique that I used on most of the other
figures and paintings in this thread
Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words...;)
Take Care
Glenn

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01-17-2006, 10:45 PM
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erilaz
01-17-2006, 10:48 PM
I really enjoy the light you are capturing in this update. Very well done. The features are starting to come through beautifully.

MechaHateChimp
01-17-2006, 11:38 PM
To ..Icey...SaraD ..and anyone else who cares to read this...:)

Tricks and manipulation have been used since the first artist arived on the scene, and
have been used in every medium that has ever been created.
To exclude them from your bag of tools, or tricks, would be a big mistake in my opinion.
It would simply mean that you are afraid of, or have not taken the time to MASTER, and
become MASTER OF the tools that have become available at this moment in time.
We are as artist, in the business of creating beauty ect. thru illusion, by whatever means
that become avalible to us.
FILTERS and MANIPULATION, ARE JUST ANOTHER SET OF TOOLS OR TRICKS, TO BE ....
MASTERED, AND BECOME MASTER OF ..:)
The general public, or main audience, do not care, or know if filters and manipulation
were used to creat what they see. All they care about, is wheather they like it or not.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CHEATING...That is a restriction imposed upon artist, by
other artist, who have, and always have had the mentality, that is and has always been
....AFRAID OF CHANGE... :)
If we never took advantage of what has become, and is avalible to us as artist, we would
STILL BE FINGER PAINTING, WITH MUD, ON STONE WALLS...:)

This is just my opinion on the subject of FILTERS AND MANIPULATION, IN THIS NEW MEDIUM..:eek: ...:)

Take Care
Glenn

Well said and I totally agree :buttrock:

I sometimes think of myself as the Malcolm X of art... "BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY". We can choose any number of ways to create our work but inevitably, the final image is what is most important. I enjoy working in different styles, with different mediums, using different techniques. Learning new ways, better ways... its what makes creating art exciting. Yes, it is important to learn the basics, but it is equally important to experiment. For me, this is incredibly important. I find it so refreshing when I meet others who feel the same way.


Glenn Ive had a chance to look at your work and you are incredibly talented. Thank you so much for your kind words about my artwork and thank you also for the inspiring words youve written in your posts. - J

Mu
01-18-2006, 07:52 AM
I sometimes think of myself as the Malcolm X of art... "BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY".



lmao:scream:

SpiritDreamer
01-18-2006, 10:43 PM
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SpiritDreamer
01-19-2006, 02:10 AM
Thanks...Martin...:)

Glad you stopped by. I've been enjoying your thread also.
Alot of nice stuff can be done with ink.
Glad you are thinking about experimenting with it..:thumbsup:
You just never know what you'll discover, tell you experiment.
Check out the ink work from China..Great masters of that technique ..


THANK YOU VERY MUCH....Mecha Hate CHIMP // Joel .. :) :wavey:

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY...STAY TRUE TO YOUR HEART..WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ART..

Thank you also, for the GREAT WORDS you just wrote in here...:thumbsup:
Some things just need to be said, and repeated ...whenever and as often as necessary..
By ANY..and..WHATEVER..,MEANS POSIBLE...
Thanks ..Joel


MR MU...Thank you for entering this part of my world..:wavey: :)

If you are a writer, you just might get some good ideas for a book on this forum
before it's all over and said and done with....LOL!! :bounce:


Take Care....EVERY=ONE..:)
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
01-19-2006, 10:58 PM
Another Doodle -

From the Imagination!

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Woman.jpg

Mu
01-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Wow

the subtle reflected light on the shadow side of the face looks really warm and delicate.

The look is also great (I am referring to her eyes, maybe glance is a better word? Lacking vocabulary here, obviously). And the way you tilt the head works great, also.

I would love to see the headpiece taken further as at the moment it is stealing attention simply by the fact that I am wondering wether it's a hat, a turban or a headscarf.

SpiritDreamer
01-20-2006, 11:53 AM
Update for Mr Mu:


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Woman_1.jpg

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01-20-2006, 12:01 PM
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Mu
01-20-2006, 02:00 PM
Update for Mr Mu
*lol*how kind of you...

but are there any changes?

*rubs eyes*

SpiritDreamer
01-20-2006, 09:01 PM
Another update just for Mr Mu

Mr Mu
Remember there is no model, Just a doodle done for fun.
More of a color study type of thing
Hope you can enjoy it a little more now.
As you can see she has been through a lot of changes
since I first created her. She lost her wings somewhere along the line,
but maybe they were just in her dreams anyway.
Thanks for the feed back Mr. Mu,
it forces me to take things further which is always a good thing and
is always appreciated
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOMAN_WITH_SCARF.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Fairy_Queen2.jpg

And when we she gets angry - watch out!

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Elf_3.JPG

Mu
01-20-2006, 09:47 PM
Remember there is no model, Just a doodle done for fun.
Oh, I do - that's what is freaking me out so much.

The update came out great. Very physically present - and a heavy mood.

I do certainly enjoy it!

SpiritDreamer
01-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Doodle 1/21/2006


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/new_face.jpg

Rebeccak
01-21-2006, 10:47 PM
Glenn,

I really like your monochromatic pieces such as the last one you posted...I think it's a great way to develop form as you know...:D ~ really nice stuff, would like to see you start in this monochromatic way for the OFDWs, perhaps adding colors at a later stage...nice work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-22-2006, 01:01 AM
Hi ...Rebecca...:)

Hey ...is mind reading one of your other talents...:bowdown:
I just finished that last one I posted, ... was practicing the technique I am going to use
on the #12 master copy we are getting ready to start..I have not done a master copy
in many many years,...so I figured it would be easier to start it with the technique I just
posted...won't get lost in all those colors right from the start that way, and will be able
to consentrate on all the other aspects of that painting more closely . Not sure if that is
the way he created that painting...but it has a lot of darks in it, so he might have..don't know..
THANKS..for the feedback Rebecca...and again ..THANKS for all the help you've given me
along the way....and one final note...you should take aspiring off your avatar...
and just leave TEACHER...that would be closer to the TRUTH I think...:thumbsup: :wavey: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-22-2006, 01:04 AM
Aww, Glenn & Jessica (Spirit Dreamers) thanks! :) You're really sweet to be so supportive, and I really value all of your efforts here. I think you've developed quite a following! :) Which you definitely deserve ~ thanks for posting comments to everyones' threads, I think they really appreciate and value your input a great deal. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-22-2006, 01:29 AM
THANKS ...Rebecca...:)

It's been my pleasure to share what I know, and to learn what I don't know..
Fantastic time for art and artist in history I think..Never been a time, when artist from
all over the EARTH could share thoughts ect. and see each others works, finished
and in progress, thanks to this new medium ..computers..
Who knows where or what it wll lead to.. only the fates know, I suppose..
Just glad I can be a part of it at this stage in my life...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-22-2006, 02:10 AM
Glenn,

I totally agree...I think this is really a cool and special thing, and is great because it removes artists from the isolation that in previous times they had to experience. :)

I have a practical Painter question for you ~ I am doing some color experimentation, and, being new to Painter, am finding myself both cackling with glee :D and also a bit frustrated with the various tools and operations...one thing I am noticing is that when I paint on the canvas, even if I have a dark color selected, such as a dark purple, when I first touch brush to canvas, a lighter color first appears, then I have to really press down on the wacom tablet / apply pressure to get the color which I really want. Is there a way that I can avoid getting that lighter color from appearing at first? Thank you! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Mu
01-22-2006, 11:02 AM
Hi Rebecca,

I think Glenn will as always know a good answer to this, but in the meantime you could check out this thread in the painter forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=311879)as it might be related.

Note that unless you uncheck "pick up underlying colour" many brushes pick up the canvas' colour to mix the selected colour with.

Rebeccak
01-22-2006, 12:10 PM
Mr. Mu,

Thanks a lot! I've now bookmarked that page...will have to trundle over to the Painter Forum more often. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-22-2006, 12:34 PM
GOOD MORNING....Rebecca...:)

Had to sleep on that question you just asked about the paint going from lighter to darker
depending on how much pressure you apply to the pen or the illusion of a brush...
I think it is like when you draw with a , ..lets say black ball point pen...the color of the
pen is black, ..but if you barely touch it to the paper, it creates a lighter shade of black,
and when you press down harder, it reaches it's true color...which is black.
The same principle applies to painter brushes....they are very sensitive to pressure.
You can ajust the sensitivety of the wacom pen and tablet, to respond to your personal
touch, and get it to the point where it is to your likeing.
I never tried this myself...I just went with what it did, and worked it to my advantage
by pressing lighter when I want a lighter shade,...and harder for a darker shade.
I do the same thing when drawing in reality with a ball point pen...I map in the figure
or whatever area i'm on ...useing a light touch, which gives me a lighter faded line,
then I increase the pressure as I go along, ..this gives me the full range and potential of that one black pen ...
Of course brushes react differently according to surface, opacity of paint ect.
Will need to know what brush and medium your haveing the problem with,.. to be more
acurate with the cure...:)
Let me know what you think about what I just said, and if it helps any...I want to see
you happy with PAINTER ...I think it is the program that will allow you to reach your
full potential in this new digital medium that we're all in the process of exploring...:)

One other thought...I have been useing a very deep. almost black purple ..for the
backgrounds for all of the model paintings...background color turns light purple when
it is blended onto or into the figure, and makes a very nice purple colored shadow.
You can see it happening on the light skined model...forground next to Zhuhu frame #11-AND 103
Just another happy accident kept, perfected, and used to advantage...
FRUSTRATION..EXPERIMENTATION...ACCIDENTS...IT'S ALL GOOD IF USED TO YOUR
ADVANTAGE...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-22-2006, 12:38 PM
Glenn,

Thanks a lot for the explanation. :) Definitely the nice thing about the Wacom is its sensitivity...and Painter in some ways so closely mimics the properties of traditional media it is scary. :D But in other ways of course, it is still not quite the same thing...so gradually I am learning and adjusting to its various properties, which, of course you must do with traditional media as well. So far I am finding that I like mixing PS and Painter, which is what I think many people do these days...so we'll see where this experimentation leads. Thanks for being the Painter guru around here! :thumbsup:

I appreciate your explanation. :) I think the link Mr. Mu provided also gives me some clues as to how to proceed...will try to do that later today as well. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
01-23-2006, 10:19 AM
GOOD MORNING ...Rebecca....MR MU...:)
I read a little of that stuff on PAINTER yesterday....reminded me of the instructions that
come with new TV'S ...what ever happened to the days when you just plugged it in...LOL!!
I think a good method to start to explore PAINTER is to change your canvas from RIF, to BMP
right from the start...will have a lot less problems and confussion that way, for practiceing
and trying out new brushes. I never work in RIF ...Except when combineing figures, or
pasteing them into a background... then I always convert it back to BMP to continue on
with the work...a lot less problems that way, and you can always save your RIF VERSIONS
seperatly as you go along, in case you want to go back and start over or make changes
or creat new and different versions of the painting.
As far as instructions go..they are ok for some things...but on the other hand..
If ...Fleming went by the instructions or book,the world would not have Penacillen,
and bacteria would rule and ruin the day.....IMPOSIBLE TO LEARN ANYTHING NEW, WHEN
YOUR GOING BY SOMEBODY ELSES BOOK AND RULES....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
01-23-2006, 10:50 AM
the world would not have Penacillen,
and bacteria would rule and ruin the day.


lmao! Nothing to ruin your day like a good ole infection, not?:scream:

Actually, I am ambiguous about instructions.

I feel software should not be in your way. Software developers love to get in your way ("you sure you want to quit?" "I just told you so - get outta my way!" "Hello I am Clippy - your little office helper... what do you want to do?" "I wanna Erase Clippy from my harddrive, dammit!").

Artrage is a good example of software that lets you go and play without getting in your way too much. Painter was rather good at it, too, I admit. But by playing alone you will have a hard time figuring its vast complexity out.

In general, Software isn't anywhere near the elegance and simple efficiency in user interface design like musical instruments (any 2 year old knows how to use a piano, even a guitar!), but it definitely will some day in the future.

On the other hand - I like manuals. And I love well written manuals. I take it with me to bed or if it's on PDF I read through all of it while sipping on a cup of tea. Also, according to German upbringing you kind of appreciate clear instructions:scream: ...

And I don't want to be yelled at ("RTFM!")...

Hope you don't mind my elaborations in your thread. I also wanna say how refreshing it is to see that you propagate fearless experementing on all occasions. If you indoctrinate me long enough I might exchange some of my prefs for instructions with the free spirit of your indian (or native american?) heritage:)

SpiritDreamer
01-23-2006, 12:07 PM
LOL!!.....Thanks for putting a smile on my face this early in the morning..MR MU...:)

To be totally honest with you,..yesterday was the first time that I ever read any
instructions on PAINTER, LOL!! ...and hopefullly it will be the last time..LOL!! :)

Now i'm off to start the # 12 MASTER COPY...and no , ..i'm not going to read the
instrutions before I start that one either..LOL!! ...:bounce:

Have a GREAT DAY...MR MU....and I wiil see you on # 12 .... that is IF.. you have finished
reading all the instructions before the time for it's completion is over..LOL!!...:)

You are always welcome to post your thoughts on my thread, and I really hope you
will continue to do so....SHAREING THOUGHTS.. is what learning and PROGRESS is all
about after all,....and I don't think we need any instrutions for that...EITHER...LOL...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
01-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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Mu
01-24-2006, 08:07 AM
Hi there,


I was starting to wonder when your entry would come...

Along with your explanation of what went through your mind I find this very exciting and unusual (this turns into a habit of yours, eh?:scream: ).

really looking forward to how you are going to incorporate the first flow into the completed piece.

SpiritDreamer
01-24-2006, 10:58 PM
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Icey
01-25-2006, 05:25 PM
I've been through all your pages and your website :)
great gallery!
i aspecially like the dragons and ... fantasy 13 and ofcourse 34 - never crossed my mind doing art with the characterdesign.com reference! Brilliant! :D Wonderful colours!

Hope to see much more :)

cheers!

Icey

SpiritDreamer
01-26-2006, 10:18 PM
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Lyneran
01-27-2006, 12:15 AM
hi spirit dreamer i can't wait to see the finished version of ur bouguereau study! this is interesting i've never seen a painting built up this way, for a moment there it looked like silk to me or something liquid but now the shapes are starting to come out. is it easier this way than with lines? maybe easier to picture the shapes?

btw i just read what you did for icey, that was very generous of you and i totally commend you. you astonish me with your artistic brilliance AND your kind heart. :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
01-27-2006, 10:01 PM
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SpiritDreamer
01-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Hi ...MR MU...:wavey: ;)

Waited tell I had some progress, before I answer your post on here.
I've been trying out all kinds of new approaches to this painting. Each idea seems
to lead to a new idea...the nature of experimentaion...LOL!!
Hope you have enjoyed the progress so far. Been a nice adventure for me, on this
new and open frontier...digital art...one of the last frontiers left open to me, where there is still
freedom to EXPLORE...
I am waiting to see how your adventure turns out also...I think your on the right path, but
like a survivor of the DONNER PARTY once said...DON'T TAKE ANY SHORTCUTS...LOL!! :arteest:


Icey....THANKS...Really glad you saw and enjoyed my web site....:)
I'm glad you like DRAGONS...I didn't know that, when I mailed your book...
Strange world and life,...sometimes little things make me WONDER ...you'll know
what i'm talking about, when you open your book, look at the date I put in it
when I mailed it....look at that date, and then look at the date that you posted on
my thread...:)
Also liked your collage of your drawings...similar to the way that I have been useing
the models in my paintings...combineing them, and turning them into paintings, gives
me a chance to experiment with layers, composition and colors...ect.
Well Icey...thanks for posting in here...hope to hear from you again, and can't
wait to see more of your GREAT DRAWINGS...nice how these computers make
the world a smaller place,...SOMETIMES... :wavey:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


Hi .....Lyneran // Anne...

Thanks for stopping by.....and also for the kind and generious words...:)
About my painting methods you asked about concerning .. LINE...
I don't know if my method is easier, but I don't have to worry about going out of
the lines when i'm painting..:)
I see things in volumes ...lines are an abstraction, but then again, it's all an illussion
I suppose.
When I look at stains on a wall, or clouds in the sky ect....I...SEE very few lines.
What I SEE, are VOLUMES ...creating shapes in my imagination...

About me giveing that book to Icey,...I'm getting old now,...been a long..long .. journey..
I guess as I get older, I realize more, what is really important in LIFE ...
SHAREING is at the top of the list for sure..:)
I really like that saying you have about ...PASSION and TALENT..
Keep that thought...never forget it on your journey..
It's a GREAT THOUGHT, and oh so ever TRUE...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

ErichSchreiner
01-28-2006, 05:36 PM
great work glenn!

concerning line vs shape: i think drawing is one of the basics that trains your eyes and sensibility for proportions and perspective etc. but starting a painting just with a very rough sketch, and developing it in values and color while working on it, can be a very very satisfying and exciting experience...and you don't fall into the 'coloring-your-lines'-trap. :)

But you must know your basics for working like this, so there are no short-cuts...like always :)

just different approaches.

SpiritDreamer
01-28-2006, 09:44 PM
Wip 012 Jan 28 2006

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_24.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_25.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-29-2006, 02:50 AM
Hi ...Erich...:)

THANKS for stopping by, and also for adding to the FAVORITE FIGUREATIVE ARTISTS LIBRARY. ...Will give me something new to study....:thumbsup:

I like your perspective on LINE and VOLUME that you mentioned above. It made me
think of something I learned about a long time ago, in art history.
A few hundred years ago, there was this western KING who sent a guy to the FAR EAST
with gifts for the KING over there. One of the gifts was a painting of the western KING.
painted by Rembrant or someone. When given to the eastern KING, he being the eastern
KING stared at it for the longest time, with a look of confussion on his face. When asked
what the problem was, he replied something like...what's wrong with your KING, he is
missing half his face, and must be deformed or something.
East is EAST,.. WEST is WEST... and Never the Twain Shall Meet..kind of thing.

Moral of the story being...people are taught to SEE their world ...

When I was a baby, my FATHER handed me a piece of CLAY, before he handed me a PENCIL.
That is why I SEE the world in VOLUMES...not LINES...
If you kook at the first painting above, you won't find a single LINE, and you won't
find any along the way that were put there before the volumes were.
That's just how I paint and SEE the world...but of course everybody
paint's and SEE'S the WORLD the way they were TAUGHT to...

THANKS for making me remember that ... EAST...WEST... story..
and my FATHER and CLAY story also ...I had forgotten all about those two things ...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Lyneran
01-29-2006, 08:53 AM
I guess as I get older, I realize more, what is really important in LIFE ...
SHAREING is at the top of the list for sure..:)
I really like that saying you have about ...PASSION and TALENT..
Keep that thought...never forget it on your journey..
It's a GREAT THOUGHT, and oh so ever TRUE...:thumbsup:


i'm learning so much from you and not just about figurative art! thanks for sharing those little gold nuggets of wisdom they're absolutely welcome anytime :)

i think i understand what you and erich explained about volumes and lines now. thanks for that to both of you. i think i'll start trying them both and see which works best for me.

SpiritDreamer
01-30-2006, 10:32 PM
Wip 012 Jan 30, 2006

Going for the Michaelangelo look with these two figures - Last Judgement type style
Going to put short curly horns on demon biting neck of his damned prey
I don't like the way the demon looks in the painting we're working from.
Too clean looking. Who cut his hair and styled it, etc?
Want my demon to look more like a wild demon
Part human but mostly demon


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_30.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_31.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-01-2006, 10:19 PM
Wip 012 Feb 1, 2006

Working on big figures
Changed hands, faces etc.
Like remaking a classic movie
King-Kong comes to mind.
Just a fun experiment. Learning alot in the process.
Want this piece to have my personal fingerprint on it
when I am finished
Metaphorically speaking that is, of course. :)

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_51.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_52.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-03-2006, 02:16 AM
Hi...Lyneran // Anne

I don't mind shareing what has taken me a lifetime to learn, in fact it is a great honor
to be able to share...that's how I learned. It was from people who were kind enough to
share what they learned from people before them, and so on.
Has nothing to do with ego, and everything to do with SPIRIT...That's why I enjoy it
so much.:)
Was wondering if you had a chance to check out that Caravaggio link I told you about,
and if it helped you to understand more about AIR in your drawings and paintings, an
important lession, if ever there was one.....just curious.
ALSO ...you might want to check out ...EVOCATIVE FIGURE // LANDSCAPE-ANY MEDIUM thread ..located on front page of this forum at present time...

A lot of good stuff in there, and a lot of good imaginations at work also....
If you haven't seen it yet, than check it out, if you have time.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
02-03-2006, 07:03 PM
Feb 3, 2006

Worked on feet, legs, hands of big figures
Took the action of the owl I talked about earlier
Used it in this drama
Demon is now pinning his prey down with his taloned foot.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_55.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_56.jpg

Thomasphoenix
02-04-2006, 03:49 AM
Great Theme Glenn! Nice Poses !I can imagine how this will look finished! May I suggest a bit more away direction for the demons torso, for getting a better bite at the mans neck.:)

Cheers
Rgds

Siju

SpiritDreamer
02-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Wip 012 February 4. 2006

Worked on chest, neck. shoulder, arm and hand of demon,
and arm being grabbed of prey
Separated and defined the two figures more in the process.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_58.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_59.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-04-2006, 02:04 PM
ThomasPhoenix
SIJU
Thanks alot for the help on this one. Can definitely use your skilled advice on this.
Worked on demon's torso. Not sure if this is what you mean by further away.
I think I created a distance between them in the process.
If you have time let me know what you think.
Thanks
And Take Care
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
02-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Wip 012 Feb 4, 2006

This is an experiment in motion, I tried out.
Just to see if it would work and to see roughly how it would look.

Started out with a great suggestion for a more dynamic composition from
Thomas Phoenix.
Top Left is draw-over he so kindly and generously created and provided
me with this morning.

Got my mind to thinking: Well, this is a spiral composition to begin with.
So why not put it in "instant warp" in Painter Program (found in 'effects')
and use the spiral setting in there to to put a spin on it and see what happens.

Top Right is my original.
Bottom two are experiments, just rough at the moment. But could be
brought up to par without too much work I think.
Just thought I would share this experiment so everyone could see the
possibilities with this kind of swirlly-spirally composition.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_Comp.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-05-2006, 08:11 PM
Wip 012 Feb 5 2006

Still experimenting with composition
Trying to bring the spiral in the composition all the way from outside
perimeter of figures to the center of action which are the mouths, in this case,
and also the center of the spiral
Think I finally got it in the last one.
Also changed character of demon's and prey's faces according to drama of action.
Modified hand of prey by demon's horns. Want an emotion of pain expressed in that hand.
Finally I modified leg of prey, not sure if I have it correct yet.
Also started hair on prey, overlapping leg of demon to create more depth in composition.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_Comp_2.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_68.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-06-2006, 10:54 PM
Wip 012 Feb 6,2006

Worked on big figures. Put skin over muscles of demon's and prey's legs.
Made prey smaller and weaker in stature.
Makes demon more ominous.
Worked on hands of both figures.
Started to work on prey's face.

#2 is just a light and color study.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_70.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_71.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-07-2006, 10:31 PM
Wip 012 Feb 7, 2006

Revena:
I agree with you about the knee kicking leg of demon. Worked on it more, studied my own
leg in mirror for this action and this is how it looks. Also worked a little more on prey's face.
I studied Karate years ago under Billy Blanks here in Boston and I know for a fact that a
much stronger knee kick can be produced in this action by having the grounded leg's knee
locked with the leg in a straightened out position as I have it in my painting. When you bend
the knee of the grounded leg as in the original painting, you lose all the power behind
the thrust of the knee kick. I also created you a sequence that demonstrates the spiral
or swirl composition I am working on. Took it to its extreme so you might be able to see it more clearly.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Dante_Comp_3.jpg

nebezial
02-08-2006, 05:23 AM
:thumbsup: awesome thread mate simply awesome manes me remember the ol days of working with acrylics back at school..u rock:D

Ravena
02-08-2006, 08:09 AM
Hi Glenn,

please do not understand me wrongly, if I talk with you about the experiment and do not understand it as criticism. I think only and divide her with you. Is the effect intended that the aggressor makes the impression, each moment he would fall forward? (The impression results from its torso.)


Perhaps I should simply be waiting first times until your experiment is terminated. Perhaps then becomes some more understandable to me. :)


Ciao,
Ravena

pushav
02-08-2006, 07:13 PM
It is always cool to see your progress!
Nice job so far!

SpiritDreamer
02-09-2006, 10:50 PM
Wip 012 Feb 9, 2006

Worked on big figures and flying devil.
Practicing principle of overlapping shapes to create more depth in big figure composition.
Made spikey-feather-type of things on demon to give more motion and direction.
Kind of reminds me of fighting roosters.
A lot of action when they collide.
#2 Just a light and color study.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_80.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_82.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-10-2006, 02:20 AM
Nebezial....GREAT....:thumbsup: Really glad you enjoyed your visit...hope you can get some ideas
in here..maybe..PAINTER#9 // PHOTO SHOP HYBRED CREATIONS in the future...might be GREAT, EMERGING FROM THAT FANTASTIC MIND OF YOURS...HAPPY EXPERIMENTING
Nebezial....and THANKS AGAIN...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn


Ravena...:wavey:
Glad you stopped by, and your questions are always more than welome,...they are needed.
they inspire me to creat solutions...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn


Pushav..Always glad to have you stop by...ice cream man,..I still crack up when I think about that, and yes I still use your custom brushes...LOL!! Also really enjoying your
PORTRAIT PAINTINGS...really coming out GREAT...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE and i'll see you around...
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
02-10-2006, 10:49 PM
Wip Feb 10, 2006

Worked on flying devil a little. Making his face and head look more like a bat
to go with his wings better.
Mostly at this point beginning to think about direction of light in the composition.
And also using minimal color effectively to create mood and emotion.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_83.jpg




http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_88.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-11-2006, 06:13 PM
Wip 012 Feb 11, 2006

Step #1 worked on the tour guide's and the tourist's faces
Changed expressions. Having the guide observe the person who is being given the tour.
I think it is more interesting that way.
Next put more of a look of distain on the tourist's face. More befitting emotion for
the scene he is witnessing I think.

Step #2 Went into painting with watercolor brushes to give air between forms,
create mood and also texture.
Still have a lot of refining to do.

Bottom one is a quick light and color study


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_91_close.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_91.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_92.jpg

Ravena
02-13-2006, 04:06 PM
Hi Glenn, :wavey:

this coming out great with the brown gold colors. The spikey-feather outfit looks awesome. And I like the devil bat. Super!

Ciao,
Ravena

SpiritDreamer
02-13-2006, 10:25 PM
Wip 012 Feb 13,2006

Strarted working on foreground figure, bottom right.
Decided to put the scene on the edge of a plateau and
make demon pulling laying down figure over the edge,
by the hair and arm. Down into the lower depths of hell,
more in line with the story.
Also started showing the other extreme, which is
the heavenly light tunnel which is the exit and entrance
to this tiered system of life after death in Dante's story.
As I remember it.
Bottom one is just another quick light and color study.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_99.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_102.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-14-2006, 10:45 PM
Wip 012 Feburary 14, 2006

Small update
Working on final color version.
Trying to figure out how to make a tunnel of light.
Might put a silouette figure or something symbolic in tunnel to give it depth
Eye of Great Spirit or cross or ...
still thinking about it. Haven't decided yet.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_105.jpg

MichaelZHsee
02-15-2006, 03:36 AM
some fantastic progress u've got here spiritdreamer~interesting modification :)

Ravena
02-15-2006, 07:00 AM
Hi Glenn,

really fantastic! :thumbsup:

Ciao,
Alessa

SpiritDreamer
02-15-2006, 10:34 PM
Wip 012 February 15, 2006

If I remember right, Dante's Inferno is about going through dimensions
of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven
Purgatory being the dimension between the two extremes.
Trying to get that effect with small figures in background, torn between
two extremes.
Working on symbols using the eye in the sky. Dragon's eye, maybe.
Opening up to reveal a star that takes the shape of a cross, in the center
of the universe type of thought.
Also got rid of metallic look of feathers, not too distracting now, I think.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_112_tunnel.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_112.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-16-2006, 08:23 PM
SNAKE......THANK YOU !! :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn


HI.....Ravena.....:wavey:

THANK YOU ...for your thoughts, and for helping mine...:thumbsup:
A couple of my short poems in exchange for the two that you shared with me.:)

Title........STRANGE STEW

Main ingriedant....GREED and HYPOCRISY ...SEASONED with DEMOCRACY

For fiber..... Add CHAINS made of MONEY....throw in a dash of ..PATRIOTISM and GLORY

For sweetness....add ....SPOILS of WAR..

Flame with ...DESIRE....bring to a ...BOIL....

CAUTION....While eating,...don't choke on the bones of the POOR...



Human bombes EXPLODING
Life becoming so FOREBODING
Tit for Tat is where it's At
An EYE for an EYE ...BLACKENS the SKY
My SOULS in a RAGE...FREE from it's CAGE....SEARCHING for ...LOVES PEACE...


Like a drop of water
I fell into the well
One amongst many
Creating a swell
Not tell my life runith over
Shall I escape this hell


What 's become of the seat where democracy sat
Now kept warm by a fat cat with ruin at his feet
A victory of deciet assured freedoms defeat
Alive in name only now ruled by the phoney


Holy Revolution
Soul Pollution

Hope you enjoy
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
02-17-2006, 02:43 PM
Wip 012 Feb 17, 2006

Taking the vision idea and thought a little further.
Will work out details as I go along
Clarifying the concept further I hope

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_113.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-18-2006, 10:56 PM
Wip Feb 18, 2006

Stuck at the crossroads
Stuck between liking the bright colors of the first one and also the limited color palette of
the second one.
The second one has more of a "oneness" to it, I think.
Color ties all of the elements together instead of separating them as it does in number one.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_113a.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_122.jpg

Mu
02-19-2006, 09:01 AM
I support the second one!

This has truly become a "real Gallegos"...

:applause:

Lyneran
02-19-2006, 01:36 PM
hi spirit! wow your take on the master study really blew me away! awesome idea you got there. i kinda like the second one too, btw.

SpiritDreamer
02-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Wip Feb 18, 2006

DONE!

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/DANTE_130_DONE.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-20-2006, 02:00 PM
MR MU ....THANKS.....:) ....the magic of liquid lens brushes....PAINTER #9 ...:scream: :bounce:

Lyneran....THANK YOU...:) really glad you enjoyed it.....has air... and no line...only edges :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Ravena
02-20-2006, 03:49 PM
Hi Glenn, :wavey:

For the moment I am something in the stress, particularly since I still must finishes my OFD12. Afterwards I enter with your poems.

To your picture: great atmosphere and it have now really more movement and I need no more concerns around the equilibrium to make itself. :D Great work!

Ciao,
Alessa

SpiritDreamer
02-21-2006, 10:32 PM
HI ....Ravena....:wavey: ....and ...THANKS....:)

Hope your painting is turning out nicely...looked great the last time I SAW IT...

Have another very short poem...with multiple meaning....just thought of it...:)

THE CENSOR... SHIP of FOOLS ........:D

Brings to mind a certain BOSH painting

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
02-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Glenn,

Your poem fragment is witty and funny and I really found it funny, too, how you mentioned that song, Stranger in a Strange Land and that you feel like that when entering paintings in the finished section.

And while I think we had our fun laughing about that situation and I think it's actually cool that you have this humorous take on things I can imagine it's actually nevertheless quite frustrating to get no general response for something you worked so hard on...

That's why I would like to tell you two things:

- first: Let me say it again - what you do is quite off the mark for the majority of elf-lovers and blood-thirsty spectacle searchers. Which means you are unique.

- second: I remember Daniel Helzer - whose sketch thread in the WIP2D-section has five stars and is being viewed countless times - somewhere in his thread complained about that his paintings attracted no attention in the finished2D-section. Someone said they were too calm....:rolleyes: (Remember:spectacle!)

See?

Don't bother...

SpiritDreamer
02-22-2006, 03:22 AM
HI ...MR MU....:wavey: ...THANKS for the kind words...:)

Some kind words in return, from an oldtimer, who cares to share, what only fools turn away

Fortune and Fame is not my game, ...just as Ego and Spirit are not the same

Always stay true to your he..art when it comes to your ART

All the money in the world can never buy back your soul

Fame at such cost will just leave you with shame


I came to that crossroads many years ago ....decided I would rather break my back
doing hard labor my whole life, rather than sell out to some PIMP with POWER and no HEART

I think that everything happenes for a reason in this life, and happiness is a state of mind
not the state of your wallet

THANKS AGAIN....MR MU....and look at it this way....some good words and thoughts for your book, if nothing else... ;) :thumbsup:

Zephyri
02-22-2006, 09:18 AM
Hi Glenn... I thought the least I could do for all your great help on my latest piece was to come and browse through your work here on the anatomy forum. And wow! I'd realised you had a wonderful style that was completely your own, but your own mind is filled with such wonderful visions and dreams. The caravaggio influence on some of your experimentation is great to see, especially as he is my artistic idol (aside from Brom), and you really show a deep understanding of the way he worked with light, even if your methods of attaining it are different. You also make me want to discover more about Painter, as I currently just use it as an oil painting program, when I need more texture than Photoshop can give, but you've achieved so many wonderful looks with it.

And all the wonderful nuggets you pass on throughout bring a smile to my face too, especially the last thought on back breaking labour and fame and fortune. It's a shame more people can't see that some people are happier when they stay true to their heart, even when it means losing that chance to stand in the limelight. Being content has always been more important to me than finding fame and fortune, and the simpler things are where I find that contentment. It's lovely to find there are others who truly believe in that these days.

SpiritDreamer
02-22-2006, 11:35 AM
SPIRIT WIND...REALLY GLAD YOU BLEW IN...made my day
a lot warmer and brighter, and for sure put a big smile on my face, and in my heart.
Thanks for lifting my SPIRIT higher...really needed it..THANKS...:)
You know... I really loved your story that went with your BEAUTIFUL painting. I'm always
telling MRS SPIRIT DREAMER ....how can people just drive by, jog by, and walk by a
BEAUTIFIL SUNSET, AND NOT JUST SIT AND MARVEL AT IT'S MAGIC.
We are lucky in the fact that we live across the street from the beach, overlooking BOSTON HABOR, and get GREAT AND BEAUTIFUL sunsets just about every evening.....most look
just like your painting in fact. ...PURE MAGIC...
I am glad you feel the same way about your art as I do, ...I was beginning to think those kind
of feelings in this modern world were gone ....but then a warm summer breeze just blew in,
and reminded me that they're not.

HAVE A GREAT DAY....SPIRIT WIND..:) :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
02-22-2006, 10:51 PM
Wip 014 Feb 22, 2006

A quick study.
Just trying to get a feel for the Satyr's face and character.
Water Color Brush, Painter 9


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_2.jpg

Mu
02-23-2006, 07:35 AM
Ah man,


that is a great study.... You know whenever I saw that painting over the last weeks I was thinking:"What's his problem? I would follow them anywhere..." (:D )

But now, looking at your study of his face I had to think of how we rehearsed for the play we did during final year back at school (Midsummer Night's Dream): there was that scene where a couple gets lost in the woods and he is trying to get real close to her during the night and she has to make him sleep on his own moss bed. It is an absolutely hilarious scene (he is always like:"ah, it most comfortable here"(hugging her) and she always like(slowly but firmly pushing him away):"ah no, I think it's more comfortable for you over there...").

The problem was: the boy who played the man was the most pimpled gawky 17 year old while she was one of the most beautiful girls at school - he felt completely out of place and did not dare touch her. The whole crew was literally yelling during rehearsals "grab her... now! Don't let go! Noooo closer"...
It was a tragedy....

He felt absolutely intimidated by her beauty, him being so pimply and all....

I think I understand the whole story of the painting better now. Beauty can be scary after all...

SpiritDreamer
02-23-2006, 10:50 PM
Wip 014 Feb 23, 2006

Refining Satyr Head Study.
Also did a color study
Can't see the detail in the eye of the original painting when I enlarge it.
So will have to make up my own version.
Still alot of refinements left. Trying to capture that expression.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_14.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_13.jpg
__________________
CRAZY HORSE, 1875:

SpiritDreamer
02-24-2006, 10:42 AM
MR MU....LOL!!

I saw a movie called Mid Summer Nights Dream...Kevin Kline was very funny in it..reminds
me of your story.
I think in reality though...LOL!!....satyres are more afraid of takeing a bath, than they are
of wood nymphs....and none of them have ever been known to be shy, when it comes to
...Par Taking ... in the pleasure of women...IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN....:bounce: :thumbsup: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Thomasphoenix
02-24-2006, 12:56 PM
That is one kickass Satyr head:thumbsup:.

Love the way u use your brush :)

rgds

Siju

SpiritDreamer
02-25-2006, 12:34 PM
THANKS....Siju...:)

Can mix water color and oil in PAINTER PROGRAM...NEW TECHNIQUE....only possible with digital.
I got a new Burne Hogarth book the other day....called..MORPHOS, THE SHAPE CHANGER...
IT was the last thing he was working on, before he passed away...it's about MERLIN..
IT has the first part finished,...and also his story line for the next three episodes, but never
got finished before he passed away.....GREAT book, and cheap...five dollars...
Thought I would mention it to you....would be great to see the last three episodes finished
by someone capible of the task....HINT...HINT...:)

HAVE A GREAT DAY...Siju
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Lyneran
02-25-2006, 12:54 PM
nice study! you bring out the forms so well spirit! are you going to paint something related to a midsummer night's dream? first thing that came to my mind when i saw this was narnia's mr. tumnus though. :)

edit: oh it's for the ofdw! just saw it now. looking forward to your work!

paperclip
02-26-2006, 01:45 PM
Your stuff is so impressive! I love it! Thanks for the crits in my thread, do you have any suggestions to improve my values?

Once again, great stuff. :thumbsup: I particularly like the satyr head, it's great!

SpiritDreamer
02-27-2006, 10:26 PM
Wip 014 Feb 27, 2006

Refining and also experimenting
Added eyeball, worked on nose
Gave him more hair, air and wind.
And older horns to go with his age better.
Goats horns curl as the goat gets older.
Also did another color study.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_28.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_32.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-28-2006, 03:23 AM
Thanks....Lynera /// Anne.....just trying to capture expression on this one....it's mostly
around his mouth ...action of his lips I think...and also experimenting with light, color, and
atmosphere...air around and in figure.
Thanks for stopping by, you know your always welcome here, and hope to see more of your
work soon...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


Hi.....Paperclip // Theresa.....Thanks for stopping by and am glad you enjoyed your visit.:)
About help with values...you asked for it...best advice I can give you is...treat others the
way you would like to be treated...I JUST HOPE THAT YOUR NOT A MASOCHIST....LOL !!
Just kidding, couldn't resist that one...:D
But seriously now....there is a good exercise for training your eyes to see value...make a
long rectangle...devide it into equal sections..about twelve should do it...then go from pure white, to pure black, with each section having it's own shade or value, that leads into the
next section in a smooth progression from light to dark...this scale also works the same
way with color..by adding more of one color to another color to get darker or lighter as
you progress in the scale, from light to dark or from dark to light.
The key to a good valued figure painting is to apply that same principle to every feature
of the figure.....nose...lips...forhead...ect.....each feature should have as many values
as you can see...no less than five to be sure.
Hope this helps a little,...it's just a matter of training your eyes to see..shades of values, light to dark...dark to light and a whole lot of practice.
Again...Thanks for stopping by...and I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB on that latest
figure composition your working on.:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Lyneran
02-28-2006, 06:13 PM
Gave him more hair, air and wind.


hi there glenn! i'm still trying to wrap my mind around this air thing, so by "giving him more air" am i right in thinking that you're trying to make some parts look like the bg, so that they're suggested by the surrounding area but not actually there? (i'm looking particularly at the satyr's ridge of the brow, the cheekbones and the nose) does this have anything to do with the lost line technique in drawing, or is that completely different? sorry for so many questions :blush: i have an insatiable thirst for art knowledge and i know you're one of the best sources of information. :)

about the expression, how about a bit more surprise in his eyes? in the orig, the satyr looks like he can't believe what's being offered to him and at the same time he's really excited. i think you captured the mouth area really well though. :)

Goats horns curl as the goat gets older
i didn't know that, i guess a lil bit of knowledge can really add to your work. apparently you have an insatiable thirst for knowledge too :)

thanks.

-Lye-

ZouhairY
02-28-2006, 06:31 PM
Wooow....!!! :thumbsup:
Really amazing thread...!!
i wish i could do one of these..:rolleyes:

SpiritDreamer
02-28-2006, 10:36 PM
Wip 014 Feb 28, 2006

Woke up this morning and decided, What the hell, might as well go for it. LOL
Started with the satyr's face and just started painting my way outward from there.
Also did a real quick color and light study at the end to see if I could make it work.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_40.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_42.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-01-2006, 11:30 AM
Hi..... Lyneran // Anne...:wavey:
I am makeing this painting with you in mind, and your questions about air.
Air is invisible, so how do you see it...the answer...smoke...study smoke...
There are no lines in smoke, and there are no lines in my painting...
Only form and volume,decribed through the use of values..lights and darks.
Da Vinci...Titian..Caravaggio,all used this method of painting.
You won't find a single line in any of their paintings, that was put there before
the form or volume was decribed in paint using values...darks and lights.
Line is only used as an accent at the very end of the painting process
to further define an already existing edge.
Think of air as vapor, or smoke, defined by edge...
Think of line, as an abstraction, that is volumeless, until you fill in
between the lines...coloring book style..
Painting is more like working with clay that is made from smoke, using paint.
No line exist...just edges that fade in and out of the air, becomeing visible
and then invisible, as they decribe the form or volume, with values of light and dark...:)

A good example of the diference between drawing and painting...

Depict a sowing needle, or better yet, a single blade of grass..
Will you draw an outline first, useing line and then fill it in coloring book style,
or will you paint it with one stroke of the brush, decribeing it's form,
volume, value, and the air that is within, and also surounding it with light and dark
value....study ancient chinese ink paintings...then you will know the diference
between painting and drawing,...and the meaning of ...AIR....:)

Hope these words, and this painting help you understand the diference between
drawing and painting...and thanks for stopping by, and asking the very important question about ... AIR.... YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS WELCOMED BY ME...and will always
be answered to the best of my ability...

TAKE CARE
Glenn



Hi.......M a Z.... Glad you enjoyed the visit...and THANS for the nice words...and you CAN..
with a lot of practice....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Glenn,

You should totally join the Challenge!

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/enter.php

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
03-01-2006, 08:43 PM
amen!

I still remember the lady with the headpiece :D ... no ref, no crit

GO Glenn!

SpiritDreamer
03-02-2006, 10:36 AM
THANKS .....Rebecca and MR MU.....Not into challenges...ego versus spirit...divide..conquer


Don't like to judge, or be judged.... Who.... judges the judges........:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
03-02-2006, 04:32 PM
"such just judgment is just much"... I have the feeling there's a tongue twister in there somehow. Glenn, you are fond of playing with words, too - pick it up....:scream:


Honestly, in my case there can no be question of the fact that I am no competition and thus took the title as a hint to challenge myself rather than anyone else.


Would like to invite you to my challenge thread nevertheless as your comments are always appreciated, Glenn. :)

SpiritDreamer
03-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Wip 014 March 3, 2006

Worked on the foreground figures
Also did a light study
Thinking about making scene with Rembrandt/Caravaggio style of lighting
Just by picking out the bare essentials with light
This might give the painting a whole different feeling
Add more mystery maybe
Will be a fun and also a learning experiment
And won't totally change the eccence of the theme in the process
Which is my goal for this particular painting.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_48.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_49.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-03-2006, 09:45 PM
Mr Mu
Be my Pleasure to help you out on your Challenge. :)
Take Care
Glenn

Thomasphoenix
03-04-2006, 01:56 AM
Helloooo Glenn:),
I just ordered Morphos from Alibris.Should get it by march 24th.And thanks for the for the "Hint":):):):):). I shall definitely try to come up with something,

Your Satyr is looking really beautiful even in the current stage cant wait to see it finished.
Maybe you oughta start giving me painting lessons!:scream:.

take care

Siju

check out my 2d/3d colabBattle :).

SpiritDreamer
03-05-2006, 11:27 AM
Siju
If you wold like I could show you some of the techniques I am developing with Painter using some of your work as an example with step by step instructions. About 6 years of experimenting to get to where I am at with these paintings. Got it down to about 4 simple steps now. Achieved through the proper sequence. With your skill and expertise and youth, you can probably take this technique a lot further than me. I could use a couple of your pictures from the Collab Battle you are working on to show you what I have discovered in Painter, if you want. But don't know if it would be cool to post them there or on your thread. Let me know what you think of this idea. Thanks also for your support and kind words on my thread. Means alot to me. And I hope you enjoy that new book about Merlin. And that it gives you a lot of inspiration.
Take Care
Glenn

Thomasphoenix
03-05-2006, 03:01 PM
"QUOTE//
I am makeing this painting with you in mind, and your questions about air.
Air is invisible, so how do you see it...the answer...smoke...study smoke...
There are no lines in smoke, and there are no lines in my painting...
Only form and volume,decribed through the use of values..lights and darks.
Da Vinci...Titian..Caravaggio,all used this method of painting.
You won't find a single line in any of their paintings, that was put there before
the form or volume was decribed in paint using values...darks and lights.
Line is only used as an accent at the very end of the painting process
to further define an already existing edge.
Think of air as vapor, or smoke, defined by edge...
Think of line, as an abstraction, that is volumeless, until you fill in
between the lines...coloring book style..
Painting is more like working with clay that is made from smoke, using paint.
No line exist...just edges that fade in and out of the air, becomeing visible
and then invisible, as they decribe the form or volume, with values of light and dark...:)

A good example of the diference between drawing and painting...

Depict a sowing needle, or better yet, a single blade of grass..
Will you draw an outline first, useing line and then fill it in coloring book style,
or will you paint it with one stroke of the brush, decribeing it's form,
volume, value, and the air that is within, and also surounding it with light and dark
value....study ancient chinese ink paintings...then you will know the diference
between painting and drawing,...and the meaning of ...AIR....:)
QUOTE//"

Awesome Glenn, Its beautiful the way you put it!

Glenn,I would be Extremely grateful if you Instructed me:):):):):):).I will post it on my thread the Anatomy one.Or we could start a new thread as SpiritDreamers PaintingTutorial,and it can keep growing,with time.
feel free to use any of my pictures for your Instruction.

Thanks and Regards
Siju

SpiritDreamer
03-05-2006, 09:47 PM
:) A gift to you all from Mrs Spirit Dreamer:)

I think this is the most incredible art/exhibit web site I have ever seen.

Turn on your sound.

Check the Enhanced Version for sure, but the Basic Experience is beautiful too.

ASHES AND SNOW (http://www.ashesandsnow.org/)

The CODEX (http://codex.ashesandsnow.org/)

Exhibition at the Nomadic Museum in Santa Monica Pier, CA

Jan 14 May 14, 2006

Gregory Corbert

SpiritDreamer
03-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Hi Siju
I know you are fairly new to Painter. I hope this helps you out some in the development of your great figure-rendering-skill. Used your creature for the example, tried to tailor fit and develop a technique for you, that will allow you to take your great drawings, and turn them into paintings, while keeping the underlying drawing, and working on and within it. This technique can be taken much further with the great understanding of the human figure that you have, and is just one of many techniques used to creat paintings.
Step #1
Your line drawing done on white paper.
Step #2
Go to 'effects', select 'apply surface texture',
now select 'using' and then select 'image luminous'
Right below that is a slide bar that says 'appearance of depth',
slide arrow all the way to left.
Now go to bottom and select 'light color'
Now select color to tint entire drawing by pressing in square with your pen
and using slide bar at right to adjust that color.
Then press 'add to custom colors'
Then press 'OK"
Now move image around in "preview box' to see if that is the right color you want.
If it is, press 'OK"
If not go back and press 'light color' and try again.
Use above method any time during painting process to tint entire painting for unity of color etc.
After tinting painting you want to spot light it as if it were a piece of sculpture.
Creating shadow and depth using light. Just like in the movie studios.
For this effect you go to 'effects' once more and select 'surface control'
Menu comes up select 'apply lighting'
Now you have your spot lights for this image.
I used "splashy colors' found in squares toward bottom of this menu for this image.
Now to work lights just drag them with your pen in preview box.
Big end of light to drag and place light, small end of light to aim spot light.
If you want more spot lights just touch pen in preview box and another spotlight will appear. If you get too many lights, drag unneeded lights to edge of preview box and aim away from box.
To select and change color of spotlight, go to box that says 'light color' select color and press 'OK'
During this whole process don't forget you always have the edit function in top left corner of screen.
These lights take a little bit of practice to get used to but have unlimited combinations and variables and are great once you master them.

After lighting this image I wanted to play with proportion and expression.
So, I went to 'effects' again, selected 'surface control'
Menu comes up select 'quick warp'. Used 'bump' and 'swirl' to add more bulk and arch to outside edge of face.
Play around with all the settings in here just for fun if nothing else.

Step #3
Now comes the fun part. Turning line into flesh. I didn't want to destroy your lines because they perfectly describe the muscles of the face. I did however want to change the drawing into a painting and at the same time change the muscles to show their function of creating expression.
Method used to change character of lines.
#1 Used 'blend and diffuse brush #1' found in 'blender brushes section.
Went over entire face except teeth with this brush (lightly)
#2 Used 'softener brush' found in 'tinting brushes' section. Softened shadow areas.
#3 And most fun and important method. Went to top of screen and selected 'layers'
Menu comes up and at bottom of menu is 'dynamic plug-ins'
Select 'dynamic plug-ins' and another menu comes up, on that menu select 'liquid lens'
Once you master "'liquid lens' brushes you can create, modify, distort, clarify etc. any expression or for that matter anything that you want.
The brushes tend to leave a jagged edge so all you have to do is hit that edge with 'softener' brush found in the 'tinting brush' section.
The liquid lens brushes allow you to manipulate your painting as if it were a clay sculpture. Compressing, pulling, shaping with paint.
You can even change the direction of the eyeball using these brushes. Used them on your face to create smile, around eyebrow ridge, beard, hair, ear,eye and fang
They are great for making muscles work and relax etc.

In short these are the steps I used:
1 Tint entire canvas with color.
2 Spotlight with color light.
3 Instant warp
4 Diffuse lines
5 Soften shadow areas
6 Liquid Lens - which I like to call 'shaper brushes'
7 I just barely touched on it in your face. This step is to go into the detail of face with oil and water color and tinting brushes....oils for hight light in eye, and teeth so far...

If you have any problems with, or questions about this technique, you know how to reach me...I will be more than happy to help you out.....:)

Sorry this is so long but I couldn't think of a shorter way to make it.
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Siju_Ogre_Lesson.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Siju_Ogre_Lesson_16.JPG

Thomasphoenix
03-07-2006, 03:03 PM
This is beautiful,thank you Glenn.

I will definitely start to work on this,one more request:),please make another tutorial where you start to paint with the brushes itself without a drawing.I love your satyr face details brushwork howd you start that ,what brushes etc.

Thanks again
:)Siju

Lyneran
03-08-2006, 05:42 PM
thanks so much for always patiently explaining things glenn, and yay painter tutorial! did i mention that you're amazing and that your kindness is very much appreciated? :)

i can kind of see what you're saying (i'm observing how you developed the nymph at the satyr's left). first she was just kind of part of the fog or mist, then slowly the forms emerge and the shadows are pushed deeper. it will be kind of hard to get used to because i'm usually practicing with pencil so i'm used to the linear method, but i'll practice this when i make digital studies.

oh and thanks to mrs. spirit dreamer for that link, both the photography and the subject was great!

SpiritDreamer
03-08-2006, 06:24 PM
Hi ...Lyneran // Anne....THANK YOU.....purely my pleasure helping you out as much as I can...your work
is always improveing, and always a real pleasure to see...someone working so hard to improve, deserves all the help that they ask for. :thumbsup:
You might try your hand at useing CONTE CRAYONS....great for getting AIR into your drawings.
Some really BEAUTIFUL stuff can be gotten with them. buy a pad of news print paper at art
store, and work big ....break the conte crayon in half, and use the side of it, to get edges, and
the tip or point of it to get fine line....takes a little practice, but once you get the hang of it, I
think you will love it..:) ....go for the redish brown conte crayons...my favorite...:bounce:
HOPE to be seeing some conte crayon gesture drawings fom you some time in the
near future...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Lyneran
03-08-2006, 06:37 PM
reddish brown conte crayons and newsprint, check. thanks again, i will definitely give it a shot :)

SpiritDreamer
03-08-2006, 06:39 PM
Hi...Siju...:)

Glad you liked that tutorial...tried to do your creature justice, in the process...was a lot of fun:)
I am putting together another tutorial using direct painting method, that you asked for...will
take me a couple of days.

Talk to you later, and
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Thomasphoenix
03-09-2006, 04:17 PM
Thanks Glenn!

His expression is priceless:thumbsup:.He looks like hes looking at something and drooling.reminds me of the Grinch.
Waiting for the directpaint tutorial, Am caught up with some animation rigs will start painting based on your Tutorial on weekend.

Regards

Siju

SpiritDreamer
03-10-2006, 10:25 PM
Wip 014 March 10, 2006

Working on wood nymphs above satyr.
Trying to capture their expressions and keep
them light and airy at the same time.
Using large oil brush, tinting section. Painter 9


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63b.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63a.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_63.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-12-2006, 08:10 PM
Tutorial March 10, 2006

PAINTER # 9

A method for getting.... HUGE ACTION BRUSHSTROKES ... useing pen and tablet...

Step#1....Canvas size...1800 pixels per inch by 1800 pexels per inch...square
resolution...300...pexels per inch...

Go to where it says WINDOW top of screen...select....menu comes up.....
Select...COLOR PALETTE.... menu comes up ...select ..SHOW COLORS ....
USE THE WHEEL AS YOUR PALETTE when painting.

From WINDOW MENU...select....BRUSH CREATOR...now at top left corner of the BRUSH CREATOR menu... press little box....top left box gives you everything from watercolors to chalk ect.....little box next to it, on it's right, gives you the brushes ect within that
spicific category.


Menu comes up.....select.....TINTING....menu comes up...select....OILY ROUND #35 ...in
the tinting brush menu...found by pressing where it says TINTING...TINTING MENU...

On the BRUSH CREATOR MENU, where it says ...SIZE...select...SIZE...
Below where it says SIZE, it says....EXPRESSION...select that, menu comes up...select
from that menu....VELOCITY... .. NOW YOU HAVE YOUR BRUSH....
Use the slider where it says ...SIZE.....MAKE BRUSH HUGE...BROAD...NO LINES WANTED...

Start out with mid grey canvas...
Useing very broad brushstrokes, ... BLACK COLOR.....creat ...SILHOUETTE..of HEAD + FACE
SOLID BLACK....NO FEATURES.....

Now push the paint around like clay wih broad brush, bringing out features, going from
black to white....dark to light...selecting values from the color wheel or palette, that is
placed next to your painting, along with brush creator menu...

KEEP BRUSH HUGE AT THE START OF PAINTING....ONLY MAKE SMALLER AS YOU REFINE

Don't think about ...LINE...think about ...SCUTPTURE....created useing.....PAINT...

Push the paint around like ...CLAY...

ADD LIGHTER VALUES ON TOP OF DARKER VALUES...USEING THE PAINT LIKE ...LIGHT+ CLAY

AIR FILLED WITH ...SMOKE...IN MOTION.....:)

SpiritDreamer
03-12-2006, 08:11 PM
Tutorial March 12, 2006

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_6.JPG

SpiritDreamer
03-13-2006, 11:06 PM
March 13, 2006
Quick Doodle from the Imagination
Water color...oil....liquid lens...softener brushes
Painter # 9


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/FACE_5.jpg

erilaz
03-14-2006, 12:51 PM
Nice work Spirit Dreamer! i would only say to maybe finish him off and do that ear. Poor ears are often neglected! :D

You're shown some brilliant improvement over the last few months.

SpiritDreamer
03-14-2006, 09:46 PM
Hi ....Martin...Thanks,......:)
Just trying for mood, ear will be in deep shadow shortly, along with the rest of his head.
Want to spotlight expression on face, everything else...secondary.
Trying to give more depth and mood, using...color ...shadow...air...
Thanks again Martin...wasn't going to take it further, but you changed my mind...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-14-2006, 10:23 PM
March 14, 2006

Took Doodle from yesterday a couple steps further:

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/FACE_6.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-14-2006, 10:28 PM
March 14, 2006

Working on two versions
One day-time
One night-time
Having a lot of fun and learning a lot in the process

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_72.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr73.jpg

Mu
03-14-2006, 10:29 PM
holy wizzamatizzle, Glenn!

I missed the thing you did with Siju's drawing completely til now! It is awesome....:bounce:

Also, this last doodle is very moody, cool atmosphere - like you don't want to be the one who has to disturb him...:scream:

Mu
03-14-2006, 10:32 PM
argh, another great update on your thread!

the nymphs emanating out of their self-created mists are totally enchanting. A true eye-catcher!

I wonder, how did you create this very strong contrast in the second version? It looks like your values are different for the two versions, but I remember you did a value underpainting so... how on earth did you do that?

erilaz
03-15-2006, 06:42 AM
Wow, so much stuff so quickly! It's great to see you rework that sketch. Maybe some more contrast?

ceresz
03-15-2006, 11:17 AM
Spirit Dreamer, awesome work, I remembered when I first encountered your unique style, it was in Nebezials tutorial thread, and I have been in love with your style since then, keep it up! :thumbsup:

~Skurai

Icey
03-15-2006, 03:10 PM
wow... it shows so good! Light bursts from every figure in such a real way...
beautyful!

pushav
03-15-2006, 07:27 PM
Nice Job on the master copy and the sketch for your imagination! Keep up the good work.

SpiritDreamer
03-15-2006, 10:20 PM
March 15, 2006

Pushing this Doodle a little further with color
just to see what mood effect it creates.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/FACE_8.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-16-2006, 01:31 AM
Hi ...MR MU....:wavey: .......THANKS...The day scene...used the technique in that tutoial that I just posted
above, and also ajusted the contrast....for the night scene, I left out the total tint at the
start, and just used the colored spot lights, and contrast setting. Wish you had your painter#9
I would go thru a step by step with you...really not that hard, just have to have the proper
sequence, to get the effect. Some day you'll have your PAINTER# 9...LOL!! MAYBE!!:scream:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Hi ...Martin...
Took that doodle a little further than I had planned...starting to look like somebody out there now I think. A FUN EXPERIMENT with mood, color, and air...can always be taken
further....:scream:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Skurai // Kevin...:)
THANKS for stopping by, and your words, thoughts, and any questions about my technique
are always welcome here...Hope you enjoyed the visit, and THANKS AGAIN for the kind words.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Hi...Icey...Hey glad you liked those paintings...great MASTER painting to learn from...has a little bit of everything in it...fun one to experiment with...THANKS FOR STOPPING BY...:)
Talk to you later ICEY...Keep your chin up, and your line sharp.....:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Hi...Pushav....:wavey: ...THANKS ............Always a pleasure to hear from you...
MRS SPIRIT DREAMER says she can't wait to see the latest painting your working on.
Halle Berry.. So hurry up,..... and put it on your thread when it's done...she loves your paintings.
Think I'M getting jealous ....:scream: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
03-16-2006, 07:34 AM
ajusted the contrast....for the night scene, I left out the total tint at the
start, and just used the colored spot lights, and contrast setting.


Ah, I see. Creates a wide range of atmospheres to choose from.



Some day you'll have your PAINTER# 9...LOL!! MAYBE!!:scream:

You are one mean man...:scream: As a retalitation, I will harass you for tutorials and advice on a regular basis once I have my copy...:twisted:

:D

btw, the following sentence of yours is just a gem, should be chiselled into stone at the entrance of my studio (not that I have a studio..:scream: ):


Painting is more like working with clay that is made from smoke, using paint.

raylistic
03-16-2006, 11:14 AM
wow! i am amazed by this!

pushav
03-16-2006, 09:54 PM
Nice mood with the red one your doodle.:beer:

SpiritDreamer
03-16-2006, 10:28 PM
March 16, 2006

Still working on my other versions but decided to have a little fun with this one.
Made the Satyr go from a defensive gesture to an offensive gesture.
Made the foreground nymph go from an offensive gesture to a defensive gesture.
Switched around the 'push and pull'.
Satyr now pulling the nymph into him while she is attempting to push him away.
Kind of like this idea. Makes more sense, knowing the nature of satyrs. LOL


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_8.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-17-2006, 12:33 PM
Hi....MR MU...:wavey:

Keep those questions comeing...but will be a lot easier for me to answer, when you have
PAINTE # 9 ..LOL !!.........Thought that was a pretty good and original ..
....METAPHOR MYSELF .....:scream:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


Hi Raylistic...:) ....Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words....:)


HEY...Pushav...THANKS....:) ....That guy in the doodle kind of reminds me of MILES DAVIS
or some other jazz player...captured that kind of ... JAZZ BLUES MOOD...I think...
THANKS AGAIN....Pushav..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-18-2006, 01:15 PM
March 18, 2006

Working on my daytime version
Refining landscape and figures.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_94.jpg

ceresz
03-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Awesome, do you use painter, or photoshop, or maybe both?
~Skurai

Ego
03-19-2006, 10:24 AM
Glenn , your thread reads like a mini classroom. Nice tutorials, nice helpful attitude. I am resubscribing. I don't know why I dont get the update notices. :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
03-19-2006, 11:10 AM
Hi ...Skurai...:) THANKS...Glad you enjoyed my work....It's all done using PAINTER #9

TAKE CARE
Glenn


GOOD MORNING....QueenSoul....:wavey: :)

THANK YOU..:thumbsup:
You know, at my age, I'M just glad that I can be a part of something as great as this new
technology has afforded....kind of nice to be able to share the knowledge and wisdom
that was shared with me over a lifetime, by some GREAT TEACHERS and FRIENDS...
A..GLOBAL CLASSROOM...FOR ARTIST....never been one, in the whole HERSTORY...HISTORY
of the WORLD....who knows where it will lead....just glad that I have been able to be a part
of IT'S BEGINNING....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-19-2006, 12:19 PM
Hi Siju
Took your ZBrush figure a little further, Made cast light and reflected light using
colored spotlights. Adjusted contrast and put an "S" curve in figure using instant warp
for motion. All methods found in the effects, Painter 9. Took about 20 min.
You can also put colored shadows in background and on floor using those spotlights.
Can't wait to see your ZBrush tutorial. Very curious to know what that is all about.


SIJU'S ORIGINAL:
http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Siju_Z_BRUSH.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Siju_Z_BRUSH_1.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Siju_Z_BRUSH_2.jpg

Thomasphoenix
03-19-2006, 01:25 PM
Glenn,
Zbrush is a 3d Sculpture and texturing program,I know the sculpture bit I did a low res model in maya and did the detailed sculpt in Zbrush.
I love the way ur satyr painting is coming:thumbsup:,I will try to pose this character and make a few renders.After all the inputs from you I have started to develop an Insight into painting as a process, something I have not had so far,I was always more of a line artist and sculptor. I was deeply influenced by Michelangelo when I was starting out and I still am,never studied anything but drawings and sculpture for this long even though did study colors and light and shade as elements of form.

SpiritDreamer
03-19-2006, 07:26 PM
March 19, 2006

Worked on my night version today.
Starting to pick out details with light.
Hair on satyr's leg, grass, figures...next will do leaves, water, etc.
Just started trying this method to see if it would work.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/sadyr_100.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/sadyr_100_close.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-20-2006, 10:24 PM
March 20, 2006

Working on details of landscape and piece of cloth.
Still refining.
Trying to get a sparkle of light here and there, the way it does at night sometimes.
Almost magical.
Like the red glow in number one, but also like the more subtle skin colors in number two.
Too many versions, but the nice thing about digital is:
I get to keep them all - And learn from each one!

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_107.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_113.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 10:47 AM
Hi.....Siju...:) ......THANK YOU...:)

LOL!!...I have a feeling, that once you get the feel for PAINTING.....combined with your
drawing skill, and understanding of human anatomy, you will leave your teacher in the dust,
which is the goal of any good teacher... TAKE IT FURTHER...:thumbsup: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 10:14 PM
March 21, 2006

Still working on details of light and shadow.
Pushing some things back further into shadows
And bringing some things out further into the light.
Started details in foreground - water, flowers, ground, etc.
Just chipping away. Hardest part over. But the most important part ahead.
The Details.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_117.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-22-2006, 10:44 PM
March 22, 2006

Worked on satyr. Gave him fuller beard and aged his face a little. More distiquished looking now I think. LOL Also worked on bottom curve of his upper arm and gave foreground nymph a hand. Put twist folds in piece of cloth. Gave satyr thicker thigh. Still need to do his forearms and hands. Started putting leaves in upper left corner. And cleaned up left hip line of foreground nymph. Just chipping away at details and fine tuning. Will put more detail and clarity in extreme foreground last.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_117a.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satry_123a.jpg


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satry_123.jpg

pushav
03-22-2006, 11:30 PM
Looks like you mastered the warping and morphing in painter. I like the darker mood to the painting!:thumbsup: Keep on going.

SpiritDreamer
03-23-2006, 11:21 PM
March 23, 2006

Worked on details of hands and arms also put red in the darkest areas of satyr, his hair, beard, skin, etc.
#2 is just an experiment with light and color that I played around with when I got tired of working on details.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_149.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_147.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-24-2006, 11:07 AM
Hey....PUSHAV.....:wavey: ......THANKS....:)

YA...still morphing and warping away......like the element of surprize that happenes in the
process.....but at the same time ..THANKS TO Rebecca, I have been trying to ......
MASTER THE OLD MASTERS.....hopefully I might come up with a happy medium of the
two extreams, creating a style and technique that is entirely new....will have a lot of fun
in the process of experimenting ...thats the only sure thing in this ..EXPERIMENT...:bounce:

Mrs SPIRIT DREAMER just down loaded.....Z BRUSH for me....looks like there will be a
LOT MORE.....MORPHING AND WARPING AND EXPERIMENTING.... in the near future...:scream:
One thing always leades to another, is for sure THE ONLY ...CERTAINTY.
THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPORT...THROUGHOUT THIS ADVENTURE in this
.....NEW FRONTIER...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Lyneran
03-24-2006, 07:19 PM
wow! i've been away for awhile so i've been left behind in watching your progress with this study. i was just floored by your updates! :bounce: great idea changing the who's after who. and a sparkly night version! "magical" is right! exactly the word that came into my mind. :)

SpiritDreamer
03-24-2006, 11:17 PM
March 24, 2006

Working on cloth and the area between satyr and the two nymphs who are making arm contact with him. Made cloth softer to go with the rest of the picture more and re-shaped it to go around the leg of far nymph, exposing her leg in the process.
Still a lot of work in that center area of figures to do.
Plus the foreground etc.
Learning a whole lot on the painting as I go. And thanks alot Rebecca for pointing that cloth out to me.

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_150.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_153.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-26-2006, 10:22 PM
March 26, 2006

Worked on refining hands and center area of figures.
I put a smile on the nymph...not sure if I am going to keep it or not...
Need some opinions on the smile...I have about 20 different versions of her face....after twelve hours on this today, I am going a little blind. Help! :scream:


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_180_close.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_180.jpg

Mu
03-27-2006, 06:38 AM
Hi Glenn,


what are you going for with that facial expression of hers? At the moment I would say it is not so much a smile as rather a fierce grin.

SpiritDreamer
03-28-2006, 02:33 AM
Hi ....Lyneran // Anne....:wavey: :)

Thanks....Glad you like it, and the changes that I put into it...makes a little more sense now,
to me anyway...turning the tables on the situation...a fun experiment...funny how just a
couple of hand gesture changes can give the theme of the painting a whole new meaning.
Next thing, and not as easy, will be to give the girl being grabbed the expression that fits
this new situation...want it to be an expression of ...YES and NO...or NO =YES..A tough
expression or expressions for sure...LOL !!.....Human nature....a very tricky expression to
capture...:)
Thanks for stoppin by, and I hope to see more of your work...SOON...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


Hi...MR MU....:)

You nailed it.....Fierce Grin...NO = YES expression...exagerated to start with, am trying
to refine it somehow...experimenting again....a tough one...don't know if I can
CAPTURE IT.....but will give it a try anyway.......:bounce: :scream:

Thanks for stoppin by...Murat
TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
03-28-2006, 10:44 PM
March 28, 2006

About had enough of this one for awhile.
Ended up with 10 decent versions all different in color lighting and expression.
Liked this one the best at the moment so thought I would post it.


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Satyr_196.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-28-2006, 10:46 PM
March 28, 2006

Tried out Zbrush for the very first time this morning.
Amazing Program!!
Haven't read any of the instructions - yet.
Just played with a couple of the brushes to get a feel for it.
WOW! Is all I have to say! LOL
Take care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Zbrush_FACE_2.jpg

Mu
03-29-2006, 06:50 AM
Haven't read any of the instructions - yet

I am amazed to see you are still neglecting the German way...:wise:

give in, Glenn... follow the instructions...:scream:


I am thrilled to see you using ZBrush. To be quite frank, the main part of my motivation to send you the demo movies link was to see a real Gallegos in 2.5D and 3D - and I have a certain feeling that it will pay off!

Is this a 3D model already which you can turn and tilt? People have been telling me that ZBrush also allows for starting off painting and converting to 3D later on. But this already looks like a sculpture.

Icey
03-29-2006, 08:15 AM
this thread is going wonderfuly well!
can't wate to put my hands on Zbrush! Man.. If i had to make that in 3D Max, it would have take forever! Zbrush looks so easy and wonderful.

can't wate for more!!
oh.. and .. if it any help - but i guess you already know about this :
http://pixologic.com/zbrush/media_links/movies.html
zbrush tutorial movies...

cheers!

Icey

SpiritDreamer
03-30-2006, 11:01 PM
Wip..015... March 30, 2006
PAINTER # 9

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CARAVAGGIO.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CARAVAGGIO_8.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-31-2006, 01:04 AM
Hi ..MR MU...:) .

Not sure if that Z..Brush face that I just did can be turned into a 3D or not...I think that
the program automatically mappes out the image, so I guess it can be taken further to 3D,
but not sure yet...MIGHT HAVE TO READ SOME INSTRUCTIONS...oh well, I guess sometimes
that old saying is true....NO PAIN....NO GAIN...wish they just had an automatic button for that part too..LOL!! ......they might, but it's probably hidden in the instrutions somewhere...:scream:

TAKE CARE...Murat
Glenn



Hi...Icey....THANKS.....YA that Z BRUSH is a trip....:)
You know that Z BRUSH movie link you gave me above has a FREE 30 DAY DEMO, that you can download....FOR FREE....that's what I am using now....want to try it out first before I
buy it, to make sure I like it.
Thanks again ....Icey...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn