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kylepro88
12-04-2005, 11:43 PM
Ok this is obviously an easy question to answer...GO FOR THE 4800 YOU FOOL!! lol. I think the real topic of this thread is, is the most expensive and powerful one really worth the extra juice over the smaller contenders like the 4600 or 4400. Those two I really want to look into because the 4600 is more but runs at 2.4ghz (with a 512x2 l2 cache), but the 4400 is a 2.2ghz and runs with a 1mbx2 l2 cache but is less money. What would you guys suggest?

-Kyle

DaForce
12-05-2005, 02:20 AM
See my sig :thumbsup:

mooncry
12-05-2005, 09:22 AM
go for the 4400 since it has a larger l2 cache, or you could also go for the 3800 route since its good on overclocking, you can even get pass the 2.4 ghz of the 4600;)

imashination
12-05-2005, 10:57 AM
3800 or 4400.

The 3800 is exceptional value
The 4400 can be overclocked by any simpleton to the speed of the 4800 and costs half as much.

kylepro88
12-05-2005, 01:49 PM
Yes that sounds nice but how does that affect the life of my processor or how much the heatsink will cost to keep it cool if I OC it.

-Kyle

I have another question too, the 4400 has a 1mb core (1mb for each core), yet on newegg they show the 4800 as a 1mbx2. Does that mean the same thing? They are confusing, shouldn't they just put 1mb like the 4400 if it means the same?

PS: lol, what are you price predictions for the 4400 and 4800 by Jan or Feb of next year. In a month the price went down like 150 bucks. What do you expect to see?

imashination
12-05-2005, 03:09 PM
Yes that sounds nice but how does that affect the life of my processor or how much the heatsink will cost to keep it cool if I OC it.

It might theoretically knock a year off the life, but when its going to last for 10 years, it will be long gone before you have to care about it. Use the standard heatsink. I have my 2.2ghz chip running at 2.5

I have another question too, the 4400 has a 1mb core (1mb for each core), yet on newegg they show the 4800 as a 1mbx2. Does that mean the same thing? They are confusing, shouldn't they just put 1mb like the 4400 if it means the same?

1mb for each core means there are two 1mb caches, so yes, they both say the exact same thing. It would be more confusiing if it said 1mb and nothing else... because then you would be asking if its 1 meg split between 2 or 1meg each.

PS: lol, what are you price predictions for the 4400 and 4800 by Jan or Feb of next year. In a month the price went down like 150 bucks. What do you expect to see?

Nooooo idea.

DaForce
12-05-2005, 03:20 PM
If you want a good aftermarket heatsink.
Get the same one as me. Thermalright XP90c
Its great :-)

Even if it is slightly on the larger side of life.

http://www.apex.net.au/~daforce/vray/DSC02503-800.jpg

jscott
12-05-2005, 04:58 PM
lol...that thing looks like a V8 engine.

I'll have to agree with getting a 4400 I think they are at a good price point expecially if you OC it.

-jscott

deathman20
12-05-2005, 05:08 PM
Yes that sounds nice but how does that affect the life of my processor or how much the heatsink will cost to keep it cool if I OC it.

-Kyle

I have another question too, the 4400 has a 1mb core (1mb for each core), yet on newegg they show the 4800 as a 1mbx2. Does that mean the same thing? They are confusing, shouldn't they just put 1mb like the 4400 if it means the same?

PS: lol, what are you price predictions for the 4400 and 4800 by Jan or Feb of next year. In a month the price went down like 150 bucks. What do you expect to see?

A decent heatsink will run say $40-60 and thats including the price of a fan. Save a few bucks to keep it cooler yet run at a similar or faster speed of a more expensive cpu.

The X2 4400, 4800 have 1mb cache per core.. The X2 3800, 4200, 4600 have 512kb cache per core.

As for price predictions they might fall a few dollars over time. The bigger drop will be when the FX-60 and X2-5000 is released sometime early next year if not mistaken.

kylepro88
12-05-2005, 06:25 PM
Hmm...I think you guys sold me off to the 4400. Now to choose a Videocard. I don't wan't to spend a fortune but buy something mid range that is that but will also give me some playable frame rates. 30fps is all I require but more would be nice, lol. I picked out this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102474

Look good?

-Kyle

deathman20
12-05-2005, 06:27 PM
Man if your spending that much get an X1800XL, or a 7800GT.

There about $100 cheaper and are faster...

Of course everyone will say nVidia are the best for modeling and such. But I prefer ATI here currently. These 2 cards are pretty close in price, ATI's is a little more expensive though if not mistaken.

lots
12-05-2005, 06:32 PM
Nvidia's current top generation of cards are cheaper for the simple fact they've been out longer and have had time for thier manufacturing to mature, and become more efficient. The recent X1000 line of ATi cards is still fairly fresh and hasn't had this mature time. So they will be more expencive on average.

Eventually you can expect the prices to balance out, like usual. Though I'd be inclined to recommend Nvidia.

kylepro88
12-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Could you suggest a card? The 7800Gt is $379 100 bucks more. What would you suggest in the 300 dollar range?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130238

-Kyle

MattClary
12-05-2005, 07:32 PM
If the 7800GT is too expensive, I'd go for the 6800GT. In a nutshell, I'd go with nVidia.

deathman20
12-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Could you suggest a card? The 7800Gt is $379 100 bucks more. What would you suggest in the 300 dollar range?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130238

-Kyle

You mean $100 cheaper ;) That X850 XTPE was $449 hehe. Thats why I pointed to the X1800XL and 7800GT.

If cheaper is key then 6800GT are about as cheap as you can get in the $200-$300 range, ATI cards are quiet a bit more expensive for similar preformance at this level.

kylepro88
12-05-2005, 08:47 PM
Im going to go with this 7800GT:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130256

I don't wan't to go with the X1800XL because I read up about it in my latest Maximum PC magazine and it is said to be one of the hottest running cards out there. I'll stick with the 7800GT for now, I can always upgrade but with the FX5200 256mb card I have from Chaintech that I have currently, im sure ill be just fine and happy. :)

What about RAM? There is a huge price difference between brands for the same latency, voltage and capacity. From the 200-300 range, its so hard to choose. I was going to stick with the Corsair XMS but im not sure. Im going with 2GB of ram in dual channel mode so that narrowed my options a little. Here is a link to the newegg page with it narrowed down. I guess there is no escaping the 200 or above if I want 2 CL.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A7965&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A8477&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A7862&PropertyCodeValue=525%3A8679&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=147&Submit=Property

-Kyle

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