WIP: oriental style mock up

[flingster]

Ooops....and the image.

[kiwi]

I will try some paper for you this afternoon flingster :)


Stu.

[kiwi]

Here ya go :)


I couldnt quite get the textile feel I wanted.You might also have to mess with the amount of transparency as well depending on your lighting.



Stu.

[H. Ikeda]

Very interesting as an oriental; shoji (sliding doors with paper), sake flasks, small sake cups...
As for paper, it may be better to have some translucency, so shadows of something outside (bonsai?) are seen.

cheers,

[flingster]

thanks guys:

Kiwi: woah stu....thanks bud...appreciate it...thanks for taking the time.

i didn't really have much reference material and it just started out to see if i could make some shoji, but inevitably i got carried away...there is a lot i'm not happy with so i was thinking about re-starting and expanding on the scene. The doors did have a lot of transparency on them and you could see silouette/shadows from the other side. But it just doesn't look like the old black and white movies where they seem far thinner and transparent when figures are on the other side.

H.Ikeda: does this mean its way of the mark...or does it mean you liked my typically western perspective...heh heh. I love the idea of a trees shadows or something. dunno maybe i should take a step back and have a rethink.

By the way i mentioned a wall hanging scroll on the wall...which i was thinking about...it could start to look cluttered though....anyhow if anybody was interested i found a tut on making tatty paper in lightwave heres the link:

http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/lightwave/paper_tutorial/paper1.asp

[H. Ikeda]

Well, I'd like simply a good picture...
Typically a hanging scroll is hanging on a wall of niche. Usually there Chinese characters are written as calligraphy, or a monochrome picture is drawn with a calligraphy brush, such as mountain, village and figure.
Anyhow, Keep it up.:thumbsup:

[tonyg3d]

Nice lighing from the lamp.

Ideas-wise, first thing that comes to mind are those cylindrical cushions
or how about a square table (To put the tray on) and some seating cushions
around it. Also, don't forget the sandals at the doorway!

Keep it up!

Tony.

[H. Ikeda]

A table and cushions are nice ideas, tony. As an oriental style, however, no need for sandals, because sandals or shoes are taken off in a house. You may not believe it, but these doors are not for going directly to outside. Usually there is a narrow board-floor space (a kind of veranda) behind the doors, or you can go through it (as a corridor) to other rooms or the main entrance.
But yah, for such details, let's leave it up to flingster.:)

[H. Ikeda]

Here is a very simple example of paper with translucency. Simply the shader is made of Fusion (includes noises) in the color channel, banj in the Luminance, and a little bump and transparency. Its slight undulation(?) have been made with NICKL. Maybe you need more complex color channel with some distortion.

Cheers,

[flingster]

hey thanks again guys.
I've not had much time this weekend to take a look at this.

H. Ikeda: had a quick mess about making a scroll but came out looking naff so i'm gonna come back to that...but i got an idea now....i also went surfing for more reference material which should help me a little....can you tell me whether on shoji screens where the paper is stuck/attached to the wood struts is there wood on both sides of the paper or just one side and paper lies against it etc?
I also didn't realise the doors didn't go straight outside...Ooops! I have seen them with a veranda style corridor on the outside hence the blue lighting for outside. If that room opened onto a say garden or quadrangle would that be ok if the walkway was directly outside?
Also thanks for posting the pic...ya came up with better results, but the lighting and wood etc seems to be affecting my results i think. rendered with just simple lighting i'm getting quite good results...so maybe i should rethink the lighting....that said it was the one part i quite liked. heh heh.

tonyg3d: thanks for the ideas bud...i thought about sandals or maybe slippers...but the scene was supposed to be kind of a snapshot or a moment before...kinda what happened before it was disturbed? I'm also trying to keep the clutter down in the room...keep it simple style. I was also thinking about maybe adding a writing set....and maybe changing the sake set to a tea set (maybe a bamboo flute)? dunno really it was just something i was messing with as i pointed out trying to make the screen door originally.

i have posted some of my messing with paper...top combination of ideas from kiwi, middle is naff test like lantern banji, last one is combination of kiwi, H.Ikeda and me! heh heh....not brilliant results but if it gives people my thought process and may help people see what not to do!
:applause:

[H. Ikeda]

shoji screen: the paper is stuck on one side of the wooden frame and should be outside. Maybe this is the present state in your image.
behind the shoji: a veranda style is ok, and in that case you will find a small garden when you open the shoji door. Also you can go out to the garden, but it's not the main exit, which is what I meant. Sandals are put on the ground beyond the veranda. In a comparatively larger garden, there is some lighting outside. This lighting or the moonlight, if exists, can cause shadows on the shoji screen.
I hope these help you.:cool:

[flingster]

H.Ikeda thanks bud....appreciated....i think i'm gonna start again with it all...hopefully do a better job and come up with a more solid idea....it was just a quick mock up after i did the screen. I'm happy i should be able to get the results i'm looking for from the paper so everyone thanks for your help here.
i'll post if i come up with anything interesting or i could do with some help with if that ok. :thumbsup:

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