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erilaz
12-03-2005, 12:48 PM
After the immense fun of Rebecca's workshop, here are some final results! I'd just like to note that these studies are taken from "Artistic Anatomy" by Paul Richer and "Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist" by the author Stephen Rogers Peck. Brilliant books. I highly recommend! :)
Please note that although this is all my own work, it would not have been possible without the untiring and ever-patient tutelage of Rebecca Kimmel. Thank you Rebecca, a most rewarding experience!

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smllarge_skull_1edit4-FINAL.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smllarge_skull_2-work-FINAL.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smloverlay_skull_3-FINAL.jpg

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:04 PM
Some hands...

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlRight-Hand-Dorsal-010c.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlRight-Hand-Palmar-005.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlRight-Hand-Dorsal-Muscles06.jpg

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:06 PM
Some torsos...
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smltorsoFront-work-003e.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smltorsoSide-Work-003e.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlBack-Muscle-Work-005.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlSide-Muscle-Work-008.jpg

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:07 PM
Some arms!
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlBack-arm-FINAL.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlSide-arms-FINAL.jpg

http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/small/smlRightMuscUpprLimb-05.jpg

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:08 PM
A work in progress example:
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/front-skull-collage.jpg

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:14 PM
I also have higher res images if people are interested. :)

Ego
12-03-2005, 01:26 PM
Very Interesting; Beautiful work Martin. :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
12-03-2005, 01:37 PM
Martin,

I cannot express how much fun it was to have you in the class ~ you really helped to make it a highly enjoyable experience, with your hard work, cheerful posts and enthusiasm throughout. I was simply amazed at your progress in Week 1, where you just caught on so quickly to the b/w digital shading method, and really refined it as the course progressed, adapting to it with ease, and adding your own modifications to make it work for you instead of you for it. I think you really started to show mastery in the later weeks and things took less effort ~ the practice and hard work paid off in spades, I'd say. :)

I still think that you could work to refine / finish a few of these pieces, but the key is that you've gotten the point ~ and I think your digital painting skills have progressed a great deal.
Many kudos to you for sticking with the program, even when it got tough, and you were most definitely a leader in the class. Thanks for posting WIP so consistently and for taking comments / criticism in stride. You were a tremendous asset, and have become a friend! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

ErichSchreiner
12-03-2005, 01:40 PM
Hi Martin, cool stuff. especially the step by step :)

paperclip
12-03-2005, 01:43 PM
:applause:

The paperclip approves!

I particularly like the skeleton hands, great values there!

You've improved so much over the workshop, it's mindblowing....maybe I'll be the next to sign up for one, hehe.

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:49 PM
Thanks a lot for the support guys! I really appreciate it.
Yes Rebecca, I will have to improve even further and finish off those ones that were quite rough! :D I know I will get much better from here on in.
Here's another progress breakdown:
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/overlay-skull-collage.jpg

Rebeccak
12-03-2005, 01:52 PM
Martin,

These breakdowns are superb! They are really interesting to see, I think they probably help others as much as they help you to see your progress. Thanks for posting! :applause:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:55 PM
Martin,

These breakdowns are superb! They are really interesting to see, I think they probably help others as much as they help you to see your progress. Thanks for posting! :applause:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Thanks Rebecca! I pretty much saved a large res WIP every hour or so while I was working on all of these. It helped me to keep track!

erilaz
12-03-2005, 01:58 PM
Another breakdown. Mentally? :D
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/side-skull-collage.jpg

Rebeccak
12-03-2005, 01:58 PM
Martin,

If you can host them, why not post links to your hi~res images on your thread? That would be really helpful to folks who want to see your beautiful pieces in better detail. :thumbsup:

Another breakdown. Mentally? :D
LMKAOITS! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-03-2005, 02:02 PM
Martin,

If you can host them, why not post links to your hi~res images on your thread? That would be really helpful to folks who want to see your beautiful pieces in better detail. :thumbsup:


LMKAOITS! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rk
I've got the hi res ones on site now. i'll be posting a link to them later. (probably a bit big to post inside the thread itself).

erilaz
12-03-2005, 02:03 PM
Another breakdown:
http://artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/dorsal-hand-collage.jpg

Rebeccak
12-03-2005, 02:03 PM
Sweet! :thumbsup: That'll be really cool, thanks! :)

erilaz
12-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Not very elegant, but here we go! High resolution. Not as high as they could be (the originals are about 2500 pixels across!)

Bone structure Arm 01 (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Back-arm-FINAL.jpg)
Bone structure Arm 02 (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Front-Arm-FINAL.jpg)
Bone structure Arm 03 (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Side-arms-FINAL.jpg)
Skull Front (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/large_skull_1edit4-FINAL.jpg)
Skull Side (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/large_skull_2-work-FINAL.jpg)
Side Facial Overlay (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/overlay_skull_3-FINAL.jpg)
Skull Muscles (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/frontskull-010.jpg)
Right Hand Dorsal (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Right-Hand-Dorsal-010c.jpg)
Right Hand Palm (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Right-Hand-Palmar-005.jpg)
Right Hand Muscles (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Right-Hand-Dorsal-Muscles06.jpg)
Side Torso Muscles (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Side-Muscle-Work-008.jpg)
Back Torso Muscles (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Back-Muscle-Work-005.jpg)
Right Foot (http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Workshop/Right-Foot-Dorsal-005.jpg)

Hope these keep you occupied for a little!:D

Rebeccak
12-03-2005, 03:06 PM
That's brilliant, Martin, thanks! :thumbsup: Really gives a MUCH better appreciation for the detail and for the amount of work you put into these! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-05-2005, 10:06 PM
That's brilliant, Martin, thanks! :thumbsup: Really gives a MUCH better appreciation for the detail and for the amount of work you put into these! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Thanks Rebecca! Now I just have to scan in all my sketches!

Rebeccak
12-05-2005, 11:31 PM
Sweet! Look forward to your site, too! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-06-2005, 02:12 AM
I'm already seeing the benefits of the workshop in my 3d work as well! Here's a quick arm study in max (needs more work!):
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1336/arm0010xb.jpg

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 03:27 AM
Nice, Martin! :)

I think the hand needs to be a wee bit larger...could be the perspective, though. Also I think the shoulder area is becoming a bit large. It's great to see you doing this kind of work ~ is this for work, or for personal learning purposes? :)

Cheers,

~Rebecca

erilaz
12-06-2005, 03:31 AM
Just personal learning. Yeah, the hand needs a lot of work. That's what I'm looking at now. The shoulder may look a bit weird because it's not attached to anything.

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 03:42 AM
Sweet! Hehe, my critiques for 3D are a bit hypocritical...my last ZBrush model looked like a sweet potato! :scream:

erilaz
12-12-2005, 11:00 AM
WIP Study of Bouguereau's Gabrielle:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/gabriellepsd002.jpg

Squibbit
12-12-2005, 11:07 AM
Bouguereau's Gabrielle


looks like a man a bit




.

erilaz
12-12-2005, 11:23 AM
looks like a man a bit




.

True, she's a little chiselly. I'm still hammering away at getting her right! Thanks for the crit Squib! :arteest:

Squibbit
12-12-2005, 11:29 AM
yea np, dude

.

erilaz
12-12-2005, 12:27 PM
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/gabriellepsd003.jpg

Bit of progress on her. More girly, but still looks nothing like her!:blush:

Rebeccak
12-12-2005, 01:11 PM
Martin,

I'm really impressed with this! Great to see you doing a Master Copy ~ and doing quite well! Looking forward to more progress on this!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
12-12-2005, 01:45 PM
Martin,

I'm really impressed with this! Great to see you doing a Master Copy ~ and doing quite well! Looking forward to more progress on this!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Thanks Rebecca! She's a toughy! Such perfect skin!:)

Rebeccak
12-12-2005, 01:51 PM
Martin, any chance of finding an online original for comparison? :)

Ego
12-12-2005, 06:25 PM
The way Bouguereau renders skin is just simply amazing. I have been looking for a teacher that follows him. So far there have been two recommendations, one William Whittaker and another Daniel Green or something. Both of course in the US. I would like to find one in Europe though.

Great start on this Martin. :thumbsup:

erilaz
12-12-2005, 10:11 PM
Rebecca, try www.artrenewal.org for a reference. High res images of the classics! It's a bit like art crack... hard to get away from!

Ego, I love his skins too! Such porcelain precision! Subtle highlights too, such as the beautiful reflection of the girls foot in that water painting.

erilaz
12-13-2005, 02:41 AM
Some quick silhouettes during my lunch break! (about 1-2mins on each):
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6222/silhouette0011xv.jpg

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 03:12 AM
Wow, Martin! You go! :thumbsup:

These are terrific ~ keep going! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Ego
12-13-2005, 04:35 AM
Rebecca, try www.artrenewal.org (http://www.artrenewal.org/) for a reference. High res images of the classics! It's a bit like art crack... hard to get away from!.

I don't even try. I've been camped there, since the first day you gave me the link.

Ego, I love his skins too! Such porcelain precision! Subtle highlights too, such as the beautiful reflection of the girls foot in that water painting.
Check these ones out. Hehe, they are alive :D
http://www.williamwhitaker.com/
http://www.mastersofportraitart.com/greene/portraits.htm
O boy, wish Santa would just drop these dvds on my lap. :D
http://www.madisonartshop.com/dagrvi.html

Lemog
12-13-2005, 06:25 AM
Your WIP study comes very nice Martin... I'm a big fan of William Bouguereau... it's a real good idea mate to try that... :thumbsup:

erilaz
12-13-2005, 07:17 AM
I don't even try. I've been camped there, since the first day you gave me the link.


Check these ones out. Hehe, they are alive
http://www.williamwhitaker.com/
http://www.mastersofportraitart.com/greene/portraits.htm
O boy, wish Santa would just drop these dvds on my lap. :D
http://www.madisonartshop.com/dagrvi.html

Wow! Thanks for those! Great studies there, as well as just being beautiful!:D

Your WIP study comes very nice Martin... I'm a big fan of William Bouguereau... it's a real good idea mate to try that...

Thanks lemog! I hope by studying these beautiful strokes that i'll get some insight!

erilaz
12-13-2005, 12:10 PM
The closer I get, the further I seem away! :argh:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/gabriellepsd004.jpg

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 03:06 PM
Martin,

The main thing that I would suggest would be to darken the skin tones a bit (maybe add a low opacity layer set to a blending mode) because you have run out of the light value range...you'll need to go darker in order to establish the midtones and shadow areas of the form of the face.

Also, that tuft of hair in the middle of her forehead looks a bit odd, perhaps too much like a sideburn? I would suggest tweaking her coiffure. ;)

Looking good though! Hope to see more updates, this is going really well! :)

Cheers,

~Rebecca

erilaz
12-15-2005, 12:23 PM
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/gabriellepsd005.jpg

Yay! She's looking a little less manly! :wip:

Rebecca: Yeah, i'm trying to work out what to do with the skin. You say to darken, and I agree, but the lightness seems to look right from the reference. Not sure how to tackle it! Thanks for the helpful critiques!

Still tackling that sideburn quiff! :blush:

erilaz
12-15-2005, 12:38 PM
Here's a page from my tram dailies. Painfully horrendous, but I think doing these to and from work every day is helping me to capture poses and faces more easily, as I don't have much time before my subjects get off!


http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20051215_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
12-15-2005, 02:05 PM
Martin,

It's great to see both of these posts! :) If you could send me a copy of the Ref you're using, I might be better able to give you advice on how to go about approaching the painting of the skin.

I also think these tram sketches are rather good! You're definitely studying and looking at the subjects closely, and it's the perfect opportunity to practice your observational skills ~ keep up the good work! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

erilaz
12-18-2005, 08:27 AM
Thanks Rebecca! Here's the reference : http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1092

erilaz
12-18-2005, 08:36 AM
Some weekend studies. Getting back to some pencilling, as I've been quite slack in that regard!:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/samson20051217erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/bandinelli20051218erilaz.jpg

Ego
12-18-2005, 11:49 AM
great studies :thumbsup:

erilaz
12-18-2005, 12:37 PM
Thanks Ego! :)
Quick one for the sketchathon:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/DSG/15m/dancer001.jpg

ErichSchreiner
12-18-2005, 01:31 PM
i like the pencil studies too, they're looking great :)

Rebeccak
12-18-2005, 02:22 PM
Martin,

These are beautiful! Really impressive, and nicely analytical studies, without being too fussy. Perfect, really! :)

You've captured the twists in the first set of studies quite well, and I think it's a good idea to make notes on your drawings, as you are doing.

Great stuff all 'round, keep up the great work, Martin! :wip: :wavey:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Rebeccak
12-19-2005, 01:11 AM
Martin,

By no means is this a perfect review of your piece (it's barely a start) but I thought it might help out. Here t'is:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-1.jpg 1.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-2.jpg 2.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-3.jpg 3.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-4.jpg 4.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-5.jpg 5.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-6.jpg 6.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-7.jpg 7.

Still:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_Martin.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Rebeccak
12-19-2005, 03:47 AM
Small update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-8.jpg

detail:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Erilaz/rev_small_step-8_detail2.jpg

erilaz
12-21-2005, 11:27 AM
Thanks Rebecca! That will be very useful when I get back to her! (I will finish it! Promise!)

Here's a quick self-portrait. Unfinished, but proportionally almost right. I'd hope I look a little better than this mess!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/SP/SP0002a.jpg

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 02:30 AM
Good start, Martin! Time to start tightening up those values! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Lemog
12-22-2005, 04:07 AM
I really like the colors used here... that give a particular mood, a little bit 70' :thumbsup:

erilaz
01-01-2006, 04:46 AM
I really like the colors used here... that give a particular mood, a little bit 70' :thumbsup:

Tee hee! My thoughts exactly! :D

erilaz
01-01-2006, 04:47 AM
Sleepy couch people beware! You WILL be drawn!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060101a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060101b_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-01-2006, 07:05 AM
Zzzzzzzz.... :D
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060101c_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-01-2006, 10:35 AM
A figure study from Howard Schatz's "Athlete" photography book. I recommend it, because it's damn cheap and full of great poses!:arteest:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060101d_sml_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-01-2006, 11:50 AM
I don't know how to spell my measure of disgust at this shading attempt:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060101dSHADE_sml_erilaz.jpg

"Bleaurk!!" Is about right! :argh:

Rebeccak
01-01-2006, 01:47 PM
Well, okay, so I lied about not posting until I got home :D ~ because I have to say, I am hugely impressed with that first drawing! :bounce:

I just finished reading a great book by an artist, um, and right now my mind is blanking, but I will post a link later when I remember it. He's a brilliant representational traditional artist who works primarily in pencil, and his book has given me a fresh perspective on learning how and teaching others how to draw...that method's going to be up next for this forum, so stay tuned. :)

At any rate, will be posting more re: an approach to shading the interior of the form when I get back and when my memory returns from vacation. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
01-01-2006, 02:03 PM
Okay, here is the title and author of that book:

"The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing" by Anthony Ryder (artist).

Excellent book, and not too expensive!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
01-01-2006, 03:46 PM
Sweet sketches Martin. Wish I could knock my family out, just so I can have uninterrupted couple of minutes drawing them.

erilaz
01-02-2006, 04:29 AM
Thanks guys, your support is continually appreciated! Rebecca, i'll look into that book. A fresh approach is always welcome! Queenie, I know a lot of sleepy people so I can grab quite a few poses over a weekend!
Here's a couple of quick-draws while out and about on the street:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060102a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060102b_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-02-2006, 10:59 AM
I just realised only a few of you guys have seen these life-drawings before I started Rebecca's workshop:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/life004MartinBrennand_small.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/life003MartinBrennand_small.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/life002MartinBrennand_small.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/life001MartinBrennand_small.jpg

Whack proportions, but I like them nonetheless.:D

erilaz
01-02-2006, 11:01 AM
If you would be so kind Rebecca, can you add a (Nudity) warning to my thread title? I like to keep the kids informed. :)

Squibbit
01-02-2006, 11:06 AM
funny those, "painting the sleeper", heh

special wowz for becca's edit work on the lady pic


.

erilaz
01-02-2006, 11:57 AM
Heh... thanks Squib! Kudos to Rebecca as usual.

Some self-portraits this evening:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/SP/20060102c_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-02-2006, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Martin: If you would be so kind Rebecca, can you add a (Nudity) warning to my thread title? I like to keep the kids informed. :)
Martin, I'm happy to do so if you really really really think it's necessary, but I would basically then have to go in and add the same warning to every thread in the Anatomy Forum ~ it just comes with the territory, you know? :scream: But, if you feel strongly enough about it, and children all over the world clap their hands simultaneously, no problem. ;)

Also, it's great to see your prior figure drawings! When did you do these and in what sort of setting? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-03-2006, 06:08 AM
Rebecca: I did them in a small life drawing class just before your workshop. All on A2 I recall! I posted them on the workshop forum. :)

Some doodles from today:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060103a_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-03-2006, 10:46 AM
Martin,

Sorry for that, I think I have early onset Alzheimers sometimes! :D Your most recent sketches are going great, I think your observing things in a much more focused manner, and your lines are nice and clear. Looking forward to seeing more of these!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
01-04-2006, 07:19 AM
Thanks Rebecca! I tend to forget you're forgetful!:D
Some more doodles for today:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060104b_erilaz.jpghttp://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060104c_erilaz.jpg

And a little more focused, but still doodley:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060104a_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-04-2006, 10:47 AM
Martin,

The little "WTF"s are giving me the snickers. :D :scream: That lower left drawing of the young Elvis look~alike is quite nice! :)

Ha, I've just noticed that's A. (Andrew) Jones! :scream:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-04-2006, 11:16 AM
Martin,


Ha, I've just noticed that's A. (Andrew) Jones! :scream:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Nicely spotted! Now did you work out it was him before or AFTER you saw the annotation? Secondly, does it LOOK like him? :D That's my favourite drawing on the whole page!


The little "WTF"s are giving me the snickers.

Heh. My secret code for self-disappointment!

Rebeccak
01-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Orig posted by Martin: Nicely spotted! Now did you work out it was him before or AFTER you saw the annotation? Secondly, does it LOOK like him? :D That's my favourite drawing on the whole page!
AFTER! :D It does look like him! :scream:

Heh. My secret code for self-disappointment!
Aww, we know it's just for the entertainment! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
01-05-2006, 07:10 AM
Teeeehheee heee! :D

This is bad:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060105a_erilaz.jpg

This is not so bad:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060105c_erilaz.jpg
If I hadn't mentioned it before, the yellow pages are my quick-draws (ie. I only have a few minutes or seconds to draw people before they move!)


.

erilaz
01-05-2006, 07:10 AM
This, I'm proud of!:D
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060105b_erilaz.jpg

Lemog
01-05-2006, 09:39 AM
Very nice hands mate... always the most difficult, but in your case... you can be proud... very good stuff... a little more work and that will be perfect... bravo :applause:

Rebeccak
01-05-2006, 10:57 AM
I agree, nice work, Martin! :wip:

Zapan
01-05-2006, 04:19 PM
Hi Erilaz !!
Awesome work is going on here... I especially love the skeleton sketches in the first pages , wow, those are really impressive , Thx for sharing them... I'm so gonna use it as ref
*saving in my anat ref folder* :)

keep up the great work mate !

erilaz
01-07-2006, 11:44 AM
Thanks a lot guys! I really mean that. A LONG way to go yet, but little by little I'm becoming more comfortable SEEING things.:)

Happy feet!

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060107a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060107b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-07-2006, 12:16 PM
Martin,

Some really nice observational drawings here ~ on the first sheet, the center top drawing is quite nice, and on the second sheet, the top two right images are lovely. Keep going, you are definitely making good progress here! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
01-09-2006, 08:17 AM
Thanks Rebecca! I'm starting to feel comfortable with drawing with a pencil again. Feels good!:D
Here's a few quick 2 minute gestures... not great, but at least i'm practicing!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060109a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060109b_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-09-2006, 09:51 AM
I really should stop calling this my anatomy thread! :)
Doodlin' :

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060109c_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-09-2006, 09:57 AM
I think I recognize a conceptarter! :D

I like the little cartoon guy too ~ haven't seen you do that style before, I kind of like it. :)

Definitely do more of the gestural studies ~ to get really good, limit yourself to 2 minutes on some of the 15 MS poses! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Diego_R
01-09-2006, 04:10 PM
HEY, really cool work in here...
Love the foots' studies.
Looking foward to see more. :)
cheers

erilaz
01-10-2006, 12:35 PM
Rebecca: Thanks! I've been doing cartoony things since i was about 8. I never really laid down a definate style though. I draw more comfortably in cartoony though. Most of those gestures were from the 15min reference, but they're pretty poor so it's hard to recognise!

Diego_R: Glad you like the feet! I don't think people do enough foot studies. Poor little feet, all neglected down there! :) Thanks for dropping in!

MORE SLEEPY!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060110a_erilaz.jpg
MORE GESTURE!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060110b_erilaz.jpg
MORE FAT SUNBATHERS!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060110c_erilaz.jpg
MORE QUICK DRAWS!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060110d_erilaz.jpg


Carry on! :D

erilaz
01-12-2006, 01:43 PM
Bleagccch! :scream:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060112a_erilaz.jpg
Quickdraws:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060112b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Martin ~

Concentrate, Daniel~san. :D

Use the Force.

Work it!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
01-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Quick n dirty PS life drawing. It was fun! I haven't touched PS for a while!:D
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/9272/life0013lm.jpg

Rebeccak
01-13-2006, 12:39 AM
Martin,

You're a posting machine! :D :scream: :thumbsup:

Lemog
01-13-2006, 04:39 AM
PoStInGmAcHiNeMan... :scream: hahahaha but certainly the better way to progress... not ? :)

erilaz
01-13-2006, 07:06 AM
It's postalicious! :D
Hey, I had a lull at work... I wanted to give kudos!

Gunilla
01-14-2006, 08:47 AM
Ouhh - you really have some amazing studies here - I really like the early skull studies - but also the quick sketches. Some good feel of movement in there.

A LONG way to go yet, but little by little I'm becoming more comfortable SEEING things.:)

It shows - the foot studies are great, keep seeing! :thumbsup:

erilaz
01-14-2006, 02:08 PM
Thanks Gunilla! Much respect for your work!:) Everybody should do more foot studies!

Here's a couple from today:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060114a_erilaz.jpg

And so on:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060114b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 02:10 PM
Martin,

Really liking that last figure sketch from ARC. Very sensitive, nice.

I think you ought to try more master studies. Erich has been making some great headway by doing these ~ I think it's one of the fastest ways to improve one's drawings.

Keep it up! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

erilaz
01-14-2006, 02:14 PM
Martin,

Really liking that last figure sketch from ARC. Very sensitive, nice.



Well spotted! It means it actually LOOKS like the study I referenced! Thanks! You're right though... the more I study the work of other people the more I pick up.
That and that awesome book you recommended!

Oh, here's the reference if anyone else is interested: http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2004/Scholarship/results1.asp

Rebeccak
01-14-2006, 02:17 PM
Master Studies are definitely the way to go. While contemporary work may be a source of inspiration, I would go further back and copy the work of the masters. I think you'll pick up a lot more, a lot more quickly, that way. Let's see some master copies, Martin! :bounce:

Ego
01-14-2006, 02:21 PM
You are right Martin. You did really great with that figure.
As for the hand with the question mark. I'd suggest doing it again perhaps. Currently it looks like its broken.

SpiritDreamer
01-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Hi...Martin...:)
Lots of drawings..nice..
You might want to try useing a SUMI BRUSH and BLACK INK for your quick drawings.
You can get more expressive feeling with a single brush stroke, than you can with a
lot of thin lines some times...it also forces you to see VOLUMES, DARKS, AND LIGHTS
all at the same time.
Do a lot of master studies like Rebecca says, and you'll be able to see a fast and great
improvement in all of your work..a proven method...:thumbsup:
Take Care
Glenn

ErichSchreiner
01-14-2006, 07:03 PM
like the girl a lot, Martin. well done :)

and with this master-copy-thing: you probably won't find progress after the first bunch of them, but with time you'll understand the patterns on the bodies, and you'll find lines and patterns that are repeated through drawings of different masters etc...

hope this makes sense

erilaz
01-16-2006, 02:01 PM
Rebecca: Will do! I've started on some michelangelo work.
Queensoul: Hands can be tricky monkeys... i'll be doing many many more! Thanks for the compliment on my girl figure study!
Spirit Dreamer: I think I may start an ink book just to try out your idea! I've got a nice thick moleskin just perfect for that! Thanks!
El Chief: If I make the sort of progress you've made, then i'm sold! :D


I've just picked up The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823003035/qid=1136686915/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2497184-1739012?n=507846&s=books&v=glance) by Anthony Ryder. Very useful read! Thanks for the recommendation Rebecca! :D

I disappoint myself today. :(
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060116a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060116b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060116c_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
01-16-2006, 03:00 PM
Not bad, Martin! Keep going. Try testing out some of those techniques you've been reading about. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
01-17-2006, 07:24 AM
Raphael and Mucha studies. I'm learning more about light slowly...

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060117b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060117a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060117c_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
01-18-2006, 06:33 AM
Some Rembrandt and Dürer studies in ink. I enjoyed these ones, even if they don't work.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060118a_erilaz.jpg

Gunilla
01-18-2006, 07:49 AM
Wow - you're really productive here! I wouldn't agree that the ink sketches doesn't work... I like them, especially the right one. :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
01-18-2006, 09:48 AM
Hi ...Martin...:)
I agree with Gunilla
Now your on the right track...I threw away my pencil a long time ago.
Pencils make it to easy to erase your thoughts, as your drawing and learning.
With ink... once you put the line down, it's there for good, or for worse and all
you can do is cover it with another darker line, and replace that first not so good
thought with a better thought.
Pencils are for doing very tight renderings, and that is a whole different technique
and is used to make finished rendered drawings..these can be very beautiful, once
you master the technique.
Something you might try out on your next ink drawing...wet your finger or thumb
and rub it over or into the shadow areas in your drawing, while the ink is still wet.
When it is dry, you can go back into it, with more line if it needs more.
Nice to see you useing ink and I hope to see more...those last ones you just posted
look really good....TO ME....:thumbsup:

Take Care
Glenn

ErichSchreiner
01-18-2006, 10:02 AM
these look great Martin, just keep going :)

Rebeccak
01-18-2006, 11:07 AM
I like the pen sketches as well ~ I see that RK! :scream:

EDIT: Your Raphael and Mucha studies are lovely as well, Martin. :) I think you quite like pencil, too. :)

Lemog
01-18-2006, 11:34 AM
I like the pen sketches as well ~ I see that RK! :scream:
oh yes... always in the same time very far... and very present :D

Rebeccak
01-20-2006, 12:14 AM
Sooooooooo Martin...*taps fingers*...when are you going to join us in the OFDWs? :)

Cheers, ;)

~Rk

erilaz
01-20-2006, 01:34 PM
Sooooooooo Martin...*taps fingers*...when are you going to join us in the OFDWs?

Cheers, ;)

~Rk

When I feel good enough. :)

Rebeccak
01-20-2006, 04:17 PM
You're definitely good enough. ;) And the point of the OFDWs is to improve, baby! :wip:

pushav
01-20-2006, 06:46 PM
Wow nice work and studies. Keep them coming.

erilaz
02-14-2006, 12:21 AM
A couple of sketches I've had time for the second is a poorly done SP:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/DSG/15m/kira01.jpg


http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/SP/SP0003a.jpg

Ego
02-14-2006, 11:49 AM
When I feel good enough. :)
Nice to see you back and sketching away again. Self portrait is getting better and better. :thumbsup: at the sketch of kira.

erilaz
02-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Thanks queenie! Still trying to get back into the flow!
Some more practice:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060215a_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
02-15-2006, 01:17 PM
Bit more... need to work on planes:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060215b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
02-15-2006, 05:01 PM
Some nice sketches, Martin, particularly that last page! Keep truckin'! ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Ravena
02-17-2006, 01:43 PM
Hi erilaz,

I like the ink sketches and girls face #117, very good work.
Besides noticed you are well enough for OFDs. :)

Ciao,
Ravena

(http://showthread.php?t=259286&page=13&pp=15)

erilaz
02-20-2006, 10:38 AM
Facial planes galore. Need to investigate thoroughly!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060220a_erilaz.jpg

Squibbit
02-20-2006, 10:53 AM
dude, what are the bugs??


.

erilaz
02-20-2006, 08:46 PM
dude, what are the bugs??


.

Hey Squib, the bugs were for the Creature of the Week (COW) sessions at conceptart.org:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61496&page=3
This weeks topic was "Portal Opener".

erilaz
02-22-2006, 09:00 AM
Some nudes. Just practicing. That Ryder method is starting to work for me.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060222a_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
02-22-2006, 12:42 PM
Ugly. I'm not paying enough attention to my strokes.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060222b_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
02-23-2006, 10:34 AM
I quite like these ones. I ashould draw when i'm distracted more often!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060223b_erilaz.jpg

Lemog
02-27-2006, 04:59 AM
Hey Martin, I really appreciate the face of right... not don't why, but maybe something mystical inside... a strange feeling... but very captivating :)

paperclip
02-27-2006, 07:36 AM
I like that bottom one of post no. 125! The form looks rounded and relaxed and I think that was what you were going for, right? Keep it up Martin, you're improving soo rapidly!

erilaz
03-02-2006, 08:12 AM
More studies... had more fun with these. I'm only really happy with the naked lass in the top corner though.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060302a_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
03-02-2006, 02:04 PM
More loomis. Must... pay... attention....

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060302d_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
03-03-2006, 12:43 AM
Little bit of fun before bed... not much, but I liked it.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060303a_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
03-05-2006, 10:35 AM
Some evening sketches.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060305a_erilaz.jpg

LoTekK
03-05-2006, 11:00 AM
Can't run away, man. Harry Potter sees all. :D I left a comment on your CA sketchbook. :p

erilaz
03-06-2006, 01:34 PM
He's EVERYWHERE! Yargh! Heh thanks for stopping by BOTH my books!

More fun:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060306a_erilaz.jpg

No, that bottom one wasn't supposed to be arwen... i think it's the weird lips.

erilaz
03-07-2006, 10:35 AM
Life drawing session! Whee!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060307a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060307b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060307c_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060307d_erilaz.jpg

LoTekK
03-07-2006, 10:42 AM
Nice! I like the bone study you've got there. The first life drawing is pretty nice, you managed to get some nice form in there. The foot studies look good, but in the first one the shin is way forward, and the last one's a tad short (but nice values).

SpiritDreamer
03-07-2006, 12:27 PM
Hi....Martin...:)

I really like that last set of studies....composition on first one is great...would make a nice painting....:thumbsup:
Looking forward to seeing more....:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-07-2006, 12:33 PM
Lots of sketchtasticness! Go Martin! :wip:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
03-09-2006, 05:55 AM
LoTekK: Thanks! I've just loaded up a whole new bunch of foot studies below just for you!
Spirit Dreamer: Always a pleasure. I'll try my hand at painting one day soon!
Rebeccak: Yup, stepping it up a notch for Montreal!:D


http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060309a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060309b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
03-09-2006, 05:58 AM
Nice work, Martin! :thumbsup: Looks like you're really focusing with these...keep it up! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

LoTekK
03-09-2006, 06:03 AM
Nice feet! Those hands look ace, too. :thumbsup: Looks like I need to quit slacking. :D

Ego
03-09-2006, 06:04 AM
Hand, foot, and lips studies bonanza! Looking really good Martin. Your determination and resolve is comendable and certainly worth emulating. I've taken your advise, and am gonna start my before and after florence daily grind drawing/sketches. But that'll be from next week. Have to FINISH up a few drawings to throw in my empty looking gallery.

*hugs* catch you soon.

Rebeccak
03-09-2006, 06:05 AM
Don't say Bonanza! :cry:

Ego
03-09-2006, 06:14 AM
Don't say Bonanza! :cry:
I do solemnly swear that I'll not say the word bonanza.

By the way Martin, I am just seeing the Life Drawing!! :clap:
Way to go.

SpiritDreamer
03-09-2006, 09:48 AM
Hi....Martin...:)

Looks like your really getting the structure and proportion down pat ...can feel the bones in those
hands and feet.....keep up the great work......:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

erilaz
03-13-2006, 11:49 AM
Rebeccak: Yes, focus is the goal here. It's my major weakness
LoTekK: You? Slack? Never! Thanks for the comment on the feet. I'm getting a little better at them.
Queensoul: Yes, we must grind like we've never ground before! Work that pencil to the stub! :D
Spirit Dreamer: Thanks! Since they were studies of bridgman, he tend to show the bones quite well. I hope I've learned from him!

Here's a little dabbling.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060313a_erilaz.jpg

LoTekK
03-13-2006, 11:54 AM
Ah, I'm liking the one on the right. Her chin might be a little small/short, though, but I'm not certain. More values on the neckscarf thingie, though. :p

For the one on the left, it looks like you might have been struggling with the angle; both eyes look like you were trying to draw front-on eyes.

Keep it up, though, there's been some definite improvement. :)

erilaz
03-13-2006, 11:57 AM
For the one on the left, it looks like you might have been struggling with the angle; both eyes look like you were trying to draw front-on eyes.
:)

Yes... she kept on moving. :D

LoTekK
03-13-2006, 12:04 PM
Ah, yes, the ever-present problem when drawing random people. I can't count the number of times I've almost given in to the urge to scream at strangers "Dammit woman, sit still!" :scream:

erilaz
03-14-2006, 12:21 PM
More handsies and legies.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060314a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060314b_erilaz.jpg

LoTekK
03-14-2006, 01:55 PM
Ooh, shiny. Love the arm and leg studies, and the hands are coming along nicely. Love the palm strike one. :D

Rebeccak
03-14-2006, 02:24 PM
The upper page is looking pretty good, Martin! I see you've been going buckwild on the boards this morning. :D ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Icey
03-14-2006, 07:32 PM
hey man! thanks for doping on my thread!
i see great stuff here! as usual, the PS sketches are better than the hand ones, but that's no biggie! :) You'll have to analise the diffrence between these two and you'll catch up with the analog style! :)

cheers man!

Icey

erilaz
03-20-2006, 01:44 PM
LoTekK: Shiny like a fox! I'm liking hands. They're fun to do!
Rebeccak: Since when have you known me to post randomly and without cause? ;) Thanks for visiting!
Icey: Once i balance the two it will feel a lot better! I'll probably porgress to painting next before i leap back into digital full swing.

Bridgman and life:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060320a_erilaz.jpg

mv
03-20-2006, 02:45 PM
Great stuff Martin! me likes the feet and hand studies a lot!

erilaz
03-21-2006, 09:26 AM
Thanks m@... I still have to call you m@, I don't know why!
Impatience leads to mistakes:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060321a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060321b_erilaz.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-21-2006, 09:58 AM
Hi...Martin...:)
.....Really nice studyies ....like the top set, ..frame #158...back views ...great line work..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-21-2006, 03:10 PM
WOW Martin, some really strong stuff you've got going on here! :)

Thanks a lot for all your help regarding compression, the Workshops folks recommended this, I can't recall if it's the same as what you recommended:

http://rivavx.de/?encoder

Anyway, great to see your progress, and I can tell you're really gearing up for the Workshop! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
03-23-2006, 11:11 AM
Thanks guys! Rebecca, how did that codec work out for you? I still think what you had was fine.:beer:

Little WIP study of Light. Trying to stay loose.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/male-BW-001.jpg

SpiritDreamer
03-23-2006, 11:55 AM
Hi ....Martin...:applause:
Really like that light study....strong piece....:thumbsup:

You should get BURNE HOGARTH....DYNAMIC LIGHT and SHADE....GREAT book....will really
help you take your light studies further....:)
Just went through your whole thread ....really nice progress...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
03-23-2006, 01:44 PM
Beautiful piece, Martin! WOW!!! :applause: Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Amerasu
03-23-2006, 03:48 PM
The loose light study looks fantastic! It's so simple but it's really effective. I wish my brush strokes worked like that! Everytime I try something loose, it just looks silly and messy, lol.

Nice work :bounce:

erilaz
03-25-2006, 12:16 AM
Thanks guys. i'm liking the way this one is turning out. The looseness seems to be working.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/male-BW-002.jpg

LoTekK
03-26-2006, 07:40 AM
Woot! Nice digital! That study looks fantastic! :thumbsup:

erilaz
03-28-2006, 10:04 AM
Heh, thanks LoTekk.:D

And for a viciously inadequete comparison, here's me back at pencils:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060328a_erilaz.jpg

Ego
03-28-2006, 10:38 AM
Thanks guys. i'm liking the way this one is turning out. The looseness seems to be working.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/male-BW-002.jpg

:thumbsup: Thats sweet, honey!

OT: Hey LoTekK, who gave you permission to log off irc? :P

LoTekK
03-28-2006, 12:16 PM
Hey, they may not be shaded as nicely, but the poses themselves are nicely done. :thumbsup: The overlapping thumb on the left hand, though, looks a little broken. :)

OT: Hey LoTekK, who gave you permission to log off irc? :P
lol. :D I had no online contact these past couple days other than forum stuff. :p Be back in in a jiffy! :p

Rebeccak
03-28-2006, 04:12 PM
Martin,

I like the top traditional hand studies, and of course your digital piece rocks! :) Great to see you working hard, let's see some more studies, then!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

fredlovebot
03-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Yo erilaz! :p
That digital piece really blows my mind! :eek:
The texture is also awesome!

Keep pushin'! :)

erilaz
04-09-2006, 12:38 PM
Awww, my funky crew banding together to give me nice comments! Thanks! :D
Here's some stuff from tonight. The never ending poses of fashion magazines!
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060409a_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
04-09-2006, 08:54 PM
I somehow missed seeing your post this morning Martin :D ~ it's weird because threads which have been recently posted to don't highlight for me anymore, so I end up searching the hard way...ah well. :)

It's great to see more sketches ~ I think what you really need to work on is adding structure to your people ~ I really think the best way to go about this is to do traditional master copies in pencil and / or pen. This will really show your strengths and weaknesses, and point out the areas on which you need to work.

Looking forward to more studies!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

erilaz
04-17-2006, 05:39 AM
Some rockwells and doodles. The weird punching is from autolevels.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060417a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060417b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
04-17-2006, 02:30 PM
Heya Martin,

The top studies in particular are really nice! Not surprisingly, the boy in overalls has that special flare. :D Keep up the good work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

erilaz
04-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Overalls rock! :buttrock:

More from the travel book:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060428a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060428b_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
04-28-2006, 04:56 PM
ROFL Martin...:D

Wow, I can't believe it's almost May! :eek:

erilaz
05-09-2006, 02:34 PM
And now it IS Rebecca! :bounce:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060510a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060510b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060510c_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
05-09-2006, 02:45 PM
And lighting practice:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060510d_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
05-09-2006, 03:23 PM
Martin,

Both your 2D digital and traditional skills are getting stronger ~ your effort is showing. :)

There's a really good value / shaded basic shapes tutorial here by Sheff:

Value Tutorial by Sheff (http://www.pixelcolada.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16&sid=8cd31fd292783658d0bfa8c9cc5ce3f2)

Definitely worth checking out! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

erilaz
05-22-2006, 10:06 AM
Yes! Values I must get back into! :bounce:


http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522c_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522d_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522e_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522f_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060522g_erilaz.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-22-2006, 11:02 AM
:) Hi ....Martin.....Those little gesture figures are ....GREAT ...well proportioned...nice flow and
line.....you might take your favorite one , inlarge it a little, and render it in full, showing all
the interior muscles....done using values on each muscle....great way to test yourself.
this is the method that the old masters used, when creating figures from their imagination.
It will show you your weak areas, and then you will know what you need to study more of.
Keep up the great work, and post more.:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
05-23-2006, 11:43 AM
Martin,

I don't know why, but I didn't see this earlier. Great update! Bridgeman is a really great one to study from, good to see you're getting into that. Stick with these studies! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

erilaz
06-26-2006, 11:31 AM
Here's a couple I did at the workshop. I vow to become less sucky after seeing what people could do there.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626b_erilaz.jpg

These ones are from the sketchgroup yesterday with bumskee and speculart:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626c_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626d_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626e_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626f_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626g_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060626h_erilaz.jpg

Rebeccak
06-26-2006, 04:58 PM
Martin,

The key to your improvement is going to be Master Copies ~ I guarantee you. ;) Let's see some of them!

Cheers,

~Rk

erilaz
06-27-2006, 12:51 PM
I will master copy soon! Just getting back into the swing! :)

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/dirty_c001.jpg

Rebeccak
06-27-2006, 02:29 PM
Nice, Martin! :) Damn, you should do more digital work! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rk

demented
06-28-2006, 07:25 AM
Hey erilaz

Some great stuff here. Line's great, think you should work on your shading some. Never just hatch everyhing in the same direction - the monotony can destroy form and destroy the work. As Mentler says, we should not depict shadows, we should use them to depict. Great work on the Bridgman studies. He has some great tips on shading.

Last one, the digital, is graet. Love how you've used different brushes to generate the appropriate textures. keep kicking, man, great work.

ciao

- d.

erilaz
06-29-2006, 02:28 PM
Yay! Comments. Thanks guys:

Just head work and so on. Doing the master studies.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Heads/001FINALErilaz.jpg

Here's a quick breakdown of that:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Heads/Head001BreakdownErilaz.gif

erilaz
06-29-2006, 02:30 PM
Hey erilaz

Some great stuff here. Line's great, think you should work on your shading some. Never just hatch everyhing in the same direction - the monotony can destroy form and destroy the work. As Mentler says, we should not depict shadows, we should use them to depict. Great work on the Bridgman studies. He has some great tips on shading.

Last one, the digital, is graet. Love how you've used different brushes to generate the appropriate textures. keep kicking, man, great work.

ciao

- d.

Thanks for the critique man! Always appreciated. I'm a baaaaaad hatcher. It's something I really need to focus on.

Rebeccak
06-29-2006, 03:41 PM
Martin,

LET'S. SEE. MORE. :wise:

Cheers, ;)

~RK

se7en-z3r0
07-21-2006, 12:48 AM
Is that profile Dirty C!? : ) Nice stuff in here man - it was cool meeting you in montreal btw. Wish we could have hung out more. Maybe next time.

Trunks
07-21-2006, 01:52 AM
Your digital work looks very fine ... the traditional stuff is also looking good but I like the digital work more :)

Keep at iT!

erilaz
07-21-2006, 03:13 PM
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Heads/009.jpg

se7en-z3r0: Hey man! Yes it is indeed Dirty_C! Well spotted!!!:D Montreal was the best thing i've done in ages. Here's to florence!
Trunks: Yeah, my digital always seems to be ahead of my traditional, Need to work on that!
Rebeccak: Then more you shall get!

Rebeccak
07-21-2006, 03:14 PM
Heya Martin,

Nice first pass on this. :) Let's see the quality! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~RK

erilaz
07-21-2006, 03:17 PM
Heya Martin,

Nice first pass on this. :) Let's see the quality! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~RK

It was a 15 minute sketch, so i'm sure it will improve by the time I get it to the head thread.

erilaz
07-21-2006, 03:36 PM
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Heads/009a.jpg
Updated so far

Rebeccak
07-21-2006, 04:04 PM
Better! :)

Cheers,

~RK

erilaz
07-25-2006, 11:02 AM
Tanks!
A few studies from my quick book
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725c_erilaz.jpg

And some sketchgroup stuff. How's the shoulder Carl?:D
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725d_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725e_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060725f_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
07-27-2006, 06:49 AM
Whee! I suck! :D
Here's a quick Hitchcock study during my lunch break:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3774/psychoerilazem2.jpg

razz
07-27-2006, 06:55 AM
Yay! Love th eye study! Only the thing that hers (I think) nose is not well defined bothers me. But when I think again I might be wrong, because it goes into the darkness. Actualy I don't know how it would be. Overall, very nicely done :)

erilaz
07-27-2006, 06:59 AM
Yay! Love th eye study! Only the thing that hers (I think) nose is not well defined bothers me. But when I think again I might be wrong, because it goes into the darkness. Actualy I don't know how it would be. Overall, very nicely done :)

It's because of the DOF on the lense. I don't like it either, but that's the way Hithcock did it, so I have to comply like the little study-zombie that I am! :)

Thanks for the lovely compliment.

erilaz
07-27-2006, 03:30 PM
Matrix study this time. A bit dark maybe. I'm enjoying studying light and composition in film!:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/MATRIX-car-001.jpg

Rebeccak
07-27-2006, 03:37 PM
Martin,

Great to see a small update ~ really liking the idea of doing lighting / composition studies and think it's a great idea. I'd really like to see you take these studies further to really mimic more accurately the stills you're working from ~ rather than just a bunch of loose, unfinished washy sketches, it would be great to see loose, more resolved sketches where there is a focal point and clearly defined areas of light and dark. This will be a good test of your skills and I would try to make each sketch something that you could show off as a set. Don't build up a stack of unfinished 'speed' sketches as I frankly don't think this is very useful as an exercise for someone who should be developing more finished work. :)

Cheers,

~RK

erilaz
07-29-2006, 01:40 AM
Once again, the Kimmie whiplash hits the mark. :D I'm working on doing more focused studies that are "finished" (I'm never quite finished, but then who is?). I'll still do the speedies, purely for fun and warm up, although I spent a vast amount of time on the psycho one. Oh well...

I'll come back to him a bit later.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Heads/009b.jpg

razz
07-29-2006, 08:32 AM
These last b&w studies look great. The one from anatomy lesson series. The lighting is awesome. I love the mood/darkness in the compositional study. Keep up with these studies, I like them :)

erilaz
07-29-2006, 01:34 PM
Thanks razz. Great to see you visiting frequently! :)

Watching the Sound of Music + sketchbook = weird

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060729a_erilaz.jpg

se7en-z3r0
07-29-2006, 02:07 PM
Martin I like you and I think your a funny guy so I'll give you the truth about your sketches. Can you handle the truth? : p

Stop being lazy with your line work. Its like you don't really know how to define the outline of the form you are sketching so you just go in half-hearted and draw something curvy and move on. What will help is to really look at the form and try and be more specific with the lines. Its even okay to overemphasize the shapes to give them more purpose. Kind of stylize them even if they don't look real/correct they will look more intentional. They just kinda lack any emotion right now. Like your insecure about it. As Marko told me in Montreal "Don't be afraid of making mistakes. They are just lines. Be confident." Does that make sense?

The comp/light studies are looking great man.

erilaz
07-29-2006, 02:37 PM
Oh, and I agree with you entirely! Lines are up there in my greatest weakness, and I don't do enough line work. I tend to "pet" my lines and not really know where i'm taking them.

Admittedly this is partly due to sketching people a lot during travel, since I don't want to be seen drawing them and they move around a lot, I lose the form of the person I am drawing. I've been trying more and more to fix the form of the person in my head first, but then i get precious with my output. The most recent pages was indeed a page of misintention. I was basically doodling while watching a movie.

Believe me, I take everything on board seriously that people say about my work. It's imperative that I improve, so your honesty is appreciated. For some reason digital work is stronger in me, and that is probably due to the knowledge if i make a mistake I can fix it easily and cleanly. I know they're just lines, but the pencil is a much harder tool to master. Dan said a similar thing to me at the Montreal Workshop: "Don't be afraid to go in hard!"

I need to do more studies it's true, because my contour work sucks like a leech-infested vacuum cleaner in a black hole.

Thanks again. All critiques are like booster shots: Stinging, but life-saving.:D

erilaz
08-08-2006, 10:49 AM
Here's a few more studies, mainly from Bridgman. I'm trying to take what he has shown and push it further a little.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060808a_erilaz.jpg

This is still a work in progress study. I'm trying to get my lines cleaner and more confident. I'm starting to work on the one sketch intensely rather than doing heaps of small useless ones. I think i'm getting more out of it this way. I'm also attempting to do more pencil work with other mediums involved.
I was experimenting, using my tea to shade with, but you can't see it due to the scan. Darn.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060808b_erilaz.jpg

SpiritDreamer
08-08-2006, 12:51 PM
HEY....Martin....:scream: ....LOL.....TEA

Reminds me of a time, when I did a whole series of paintings on watercolor paper, using
BEET JUICE....looked great when they where new,crimson colors....but after a couple of weeks, they faded into nothing....oh well, live and learn...:) ....you might try coffee next time...:scream:

About your line work..A good way to aproach drawing from life, is to FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY
when you map out your figure with your line,....Then....STING..FAST + HARD LIKE A BEE..where it is needed most.....Also, you can put your pad of paper, behind a newspaper on your lap, and it will look like you are doing a crossword puzzle...then people won't even pay attenion to you,
or be aware that you are drawing them...:)
LIKE your studies of light, shadow, and there use in creating drama in composition....also like
that master copy portrait, and your latest anatomy studies....you'll learn a little something from every aproach you try, when it comes to drawing and painting...so keep experimenting
and perfecting the results that work..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
08-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Martin!

These last pencil sketches are some of your best yet ~ I think Shay's advice is good advice, and it looks like you've listened. Keep it up! Would love to see more sketches in this vein. :)

Cheers,

~RK

erilaz
08-13-2006, 10:37 AM
My huge failures from today's sketch group, as well as others:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060813a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060813b_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060813c_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
08-13-2006, 10:46 AM
Oh and a samurai using funky brush-pens. It's all bumskee's fault!:
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060813d_erilaz.jpg

CgIcecube
08-13-2006, 05:44 PM
Erilaz i appreciate the brilliant idea of studying light and composition from film:thumbsup:
and shading with tea:scream:

I'm starting to work on the one sketch intensely rather than doing heaps of small useless ones. I think i'm getting more out of it this way. I'm also attempting to do more pencil work with other mediums involved.


These lines nw really shw ur gr8 skills...:)

erilaz
08-18-2006, 02:22 PM
CgIcecube: Thanks! I hope that i'm improving!

Here's some silhouette figure studies. I'm pulling back on my studies a bit to focus on the general figure and proportions. I've been jumping about too much recently (another thing Min was kind enough to point out!), so i'm going to be keeping things simple for a while, then work in folds and contours later.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060818a_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060818b_erilaz.jpg

kary
08-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Very clean in the last one Martin, reminds me of an Apple advert ;)


I was wondering at your recent drawing process; when you're sketching a figure do you move from gesture to blocking in 3d forms (eg: arms as cylinders, pelvis as a box, etc) then detail / 'character marks' or are working in one stage?

I have a similar issue with line, and to compare notes: Do you find your line changes a lot depending on medium? I find if I'm using something heavy (dark charcoal, or a 6b graphite stick) the way I lay in line is very different then if I'm working in something you can be fussy with (say a 2b, or laying out with a 2h etc). Just wondering as I'm trying to mainly use heavy media or ink, and it seems to force me to commit to lines in a sketch.

erilaz
08-19-2006, 12:55 AM
Kary: I use two entirely different methods from traditional and digital.

Traditionally I sketch gesturally, then draw in the solid forms and contours. It's not my best area, and i'm working to improve that!
Digitally, I just start blocking in the form. I only concentrate on the form and silhouette of the character, then work inwards.... sort of a "Work from large to small" method. I try not to get caught up in any lines or shades or details until i like the look of the outer shell.

I agree about using ink. It makes me THINK about the lines before I lay them, and it also forces me to redo and take stock of where i'm going wrong.


Ipod adverts... I never thought about it like that! I hate it when advertising culture seeps into our subconcious!:sad:

kary
08-19-2006, 06:18 AM
Hah, well I think you're free and clear on that one. I'm fairly sure that the Apple campaign was derivative of the bold silhouettes have been around for awhile now (though flipping them into a moving medium was very bright and wound up iconic).

Thanks for running through the questions. It helps explain the different feel between your traditional and digital :). I'm still not very comfortable sketching digitally, but I do keep to the gesture > 3d > character theory in both media (now if only I could take the theory and apply it ;)).

Look forward to watching the thread develop :)

erilaz
08-20-2006, 11:05 AM
Thanks kary! I appreciate the discussion! :)

A terrible outcome today. I think we were all tired at the sketchgroup. I blame Carl. :)


http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060820a_erilaz.jpg

krispee
08-20-2006, 11:53 AM
nice to see your work, that last one is a bit disturbing lol, but you have some very interestinig sketches, like the silhouette`s, very good idea....

kris

erilaz
09-04-2006, 01:41 PM
Yay! disturbing is good! :D

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060904a_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
09-10-2006, 12:36 AM
Wibble. A bit of this and that.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060905a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060909a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20060909b_erilaz.jpg

erilaz
09-11-2006, 01:49 PM
A mysterious figure... oooh... who could it possibly be?:)
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Bob003wip.jpg

Rebeccak
09-11-2006, 11:51 PM
A mysterious figure... oooh... who could it possibly be? :)
Martin, why, just who is that hunka hunka Korean love? ;)

it's the mac korean daddy. tell him I said hello. ;)


Really liking these strong silhouettes - when are we going to see some renders? :)

Cheers,

-Rk

erilaz
09-24-2006, 12:41 PM
Here's my 100 gestures after last night's all-out battle with Min (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1035773&postcount=1177). I got there, even though it took me until 4:00am! What fun it was.

The practice helped I think, regardless of all the flaws:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Gestures-01.jpg

Close up (I didn't want to bore everyone with them all in detail):
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Gestures-01closer.jpg

Rebeccak
09-24-2006, 12:50 PM
Martin,

I think Min is a good influence on you. :) Good to see you working at these. If you get the chance, take a look at this Gesture-drawing related post (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3873398&postcount=1).

I also recommend more tracing exercises of Master Works. Trace only the lay in and the masses of forms. I think this exercise is very useful to train your hand and eye as to what to look for.

Cheers,

-Rk

erilaz
09-29-2006, 10:35 AM
Ta Rebeccaness! I'll get into that article when I can!


I was watching the John Carmack Quakecon 2006 Keynote today, so I thought i'd draw him. Badly.
He looks a bit like he's... busy... 0_o That was suppose to be his pocket!

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/carmack.jpg

erilaz
10-26-2006, 11:07 PM
Been a while...

Here's a life drawing session I went to last night:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027h_erilaz.jpghttp://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027e_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027f_erilaz.jpghttp://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027d_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027g_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027c_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027b_erilaz.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061027a_erilaz.jpg

NR43
10-27-2006, 06:19 AM
Hey man,

awesome thread
amazing progress between the first and the last posts.

Love the 100 gestures.
I've been neglecting gesture drawing...
Thanks for the reminder :)

erilaz
10-27-2006, 10:30 AM
Thanks man. At least you're seeing some improvement... I guess I should remind myself of that occasionally.

Here's a quick Sargent Value study.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/Sargent_portrait01.jpg

erilaz
11-07-2006, 05:30 AM
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061031a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061106a_erilaz.jpg

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Sketchbook/20061107a_erilaz.jpg

Pencily. Kinda fun.

erilaz
03-05-2007, 08:19 PM
Some old guy floating in my head. I really have to get back to drawing more.

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Speeds/speed-005.jpg

Rebeccak
03-06-2007, 05:29 AM
Long time no see cowboy. :) Would love to see more, more, more.

erilaz
03-07-2007, 12:18 PM
More sketches, or more quality? Cause quality is really lacking right now! :)

Artrage doodling. Woo.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Speeds/speed-006.jpg
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Speeds/speed-007.jpg

kary
03-07-2007, 02:49 PM
Odd, that plain dot is somehow overwhelming the figure in the last one ;)

I quite like the old guy sketch, it seems loose and comfortable and has the character / mood articulated. Since there was the previous mention of linework here I can't help but be drawn to the upper right corner of the chair, those lines seem unexpected and busy in an otherwise loose piece.

It does seem to be worth finding time to keep drawing, hope you can work it into your schedule :)

Gord-MacDonald
03-07-2007, 05:45 PM
I really enjoyed looking at your skeches esp. the pages with lots of figure on each page - and the sketchgroup sketches - and oh ya the silouettes are great!

Gord

erilaz
03-07-2007, 10:07 PM
Odd, that plain dot is somehow overwhelming the figure in the last one ;)




Yup, it's what I like to call "Screwing around with Rule Of Thirds", or "How to destroy a simple composition by adding a dot". :D

I quite like the old guy sketch, it seems loose and comfortable and has the character / mood articulated. Since there was the previous mention of linework here I can't help but be drawn to the upper right corner of the chair, those lines seem unexpected and busy in an otherwise loose piece.

Yeah, you're right about the lines... that was the only area I fussed over too much to get right without erasing. Should have just left my first stroke. Very observant of you.


Hey Gord! Thanks!

Womball
03-07-2007, 10:23 PM
Great gesture work! I really need to do that more, very organic lines you get.

Not sure how a dot would destroy a composistion, but it sounds like an idea for an animation.

erilaz
03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Not sure how a dot would destroy a composistion, but it sounds like an idea for an animation.

Well I noticed when I added the dot it entirely drew the eye away from the head of the subject. Kind of not the focus.

And this here was just another quicky to relax with.
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Speeds/speed-007a.jpg

Rebeccak
03-11-2007, 11:00 PM
I like your loose sketches and doodles, tea monkey, they have a style. Now if only they had focus...;)

erilaz
03-13-2007, 10:17 AM
Not loose, so crap (from photo ref):
http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/female-BW-001.jpg

erilaz
03-13-2007, 11:53 AM
Don't fight it:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/FightClub001b.jpg

[ref: Fight Club]

Rebeccak
03-13-2007, 01:46 PM
Very cool. More please! ;)

erilaz
03-13-2007, 01:49 PM
Ask and ye:

http://www.artfuloddities.com/2D/Sketches/Studies/FightClub002b.jpg

Rebeccak
03-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Haha, sweet! I think I recognize the actor, but can't think of his name, what is it?

erilaz
05-19-2007, 09:25 AM
Eep! Been a while. I've decided to try and keep a few anatomy sketches going with ZBrush 3!

http://www.artfuloddities.com/3D/Sketches/head002.jpg

The horrible ears are brought to you courtesy of laziness!

erilaz
05-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Not great, but I might as well do studies while i'm learning the new stuff...

http://www.artfuloddities.com/3D/Sketches/hand002.jpg

Womball
05-20-2007, 06:52 PM
First of all not bad! How are you starting these studies? Do you start from a zsphere or import a low poly mesh from some other program? My only crits are that these could be pushed further, and the bone structures and muscles defined more. The hand looks too soft, like you just started finding the forms. If you develop it more I think you could have a very strong peace, and something you pose too! Haven't figured out transpose yet, but I assume that you can use a rotate function on it so you can rotate the fingers into pose.

erilaz
05-22-2007, 12:27 AM
How are you starting these studies? Do you start from a zsphere or import a low poly mesh from some other program?

I usually start with the RapidStart Sphere, but for the hand I modelled a base mesh in max, rather than playing around with ZSpheres.

My only crits are that these could be pushed further, and the bone structures and muscles defined more. The hand looks too soft, like you just started finding the forms. If you develop it more I think you could have a very strong peace, and something you pose too! Haven't figured out transpose yet, but I assume that you can use a rotate function on it so you can rotate the fingers into pose.

Thanks for the critique Womball. Expect more quality in further pieces!
They're really only sketches at this stage. I haven't spent any more than half an hour on each of these. I'm attempting to "sketch" models as frequently as possible just to get back into the swing of the techniques, then i'll work on a refined piece in parallel. I like the idea of using ZBrush as a sketching tool. I'm looking forward to bringing my laptop to a life-drawing class to do live modelling.:)