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redehlert
11-28-2005, 05:34 PM
Hey there....thanks for tourin' this SB. If you have any crits, input or questions...let me know!

Please note that there are probably several missing image icons. Go to the end of this sketchbook to see newer images. Recent update includes a cover illustration homage to Rodin's Thinker (now with a brain). This is for the cover of Quest magazine, a publication by Fred Hutch Cancer Research Center. Topic is healing the body through the mind. The golden spiral pulls the pieces together.

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 09:10 PM
Bring it on!!! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

bumskee
11-28-2005, 09:15 PM
and this is a place holder for my comments once this takes off. good to see you here redehlert. :)

redehlert
11-28-2005, 10:24 PM
Hey Rebecca! Oh...I'll bring it.
Hey Bumskee! What a treat to have you over here too! Hey Rebecca - go check out Bumskee's work <-- solid!!
Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Oh, it's already been broughten! :D I have seen bumskee's work ~ and it so rocks!! :thumbsup:

Gotta run to school...hopefully by the time I get home it'll be *bringed* :wip:

Cheers,

~Rk *Waits for it to be brungen* :D

redehlert
12-01-2005, 07:13 PM
Oh how I love workin' in Academia sometimes.
One of my clients works in Pathology and is associated with Autopsy (of course). He's not doing the autopsies or path work-ups, but he is kinda like the man behind the curtain, making things happen. Long story short, I wrote him and told him I'd like to come by during my lunch hours each work to do organ studies and possibly draw from recent autopsy, etc. I know, I know....sounds morbid, but that's my plan. I'm working on the outside of the body (bones, muscles), but my job is all inclusive, ya know? Since I realize that studying from life is so important, I'm opting to drop the reference books and go for the real deal. Mmmm....good times! I'll post the studies here. I think I start in mid-December.
Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
12-01-2005, 07:19 PM
Yay! You know, now you can walk around and say, "I see dead people". I bet that's a big joke amonst Anatomists and the like. :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebecca

Mu
12-01-2005, 07:43 PM
Yay! You know, now you can walk around and say, "I see dead people".

oh, this is sure to make our pun-da-bear go wild: from "post your death drawings" over "build anatomy up from within" to "watch your opposing nerves"

but, seriously, this is a quite exciting announcement and I will be looking forward to any of of those studies. Don't think that's actually morbid. It's a sign of real devotion to learning/studies:thumbsup:*subscribes*

...and it takes guts to do it (harhar... ah man, I will shut up now)

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:06 PM
oh bloody hell. ;)
i've heard em all. one of the general favs was: "you're in gross anatomy? ew.....gross!"
i cannot wait to do this and can really see some fun studies coming across.
i think they'll be bic pen studies for starters, but there'll be a few that i'm sure i'll want to take to final.
thanks for the interst and the funny quips!

word for the day: greater sulcus.

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-01-2005, 08:09 PM
LMAO! :D

Oh, it'll just degenerate from here...*sighs* ~ but where is your work from the Workshop, pray tell? :D

Cheers,

~Rk *tears welling*

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:14 PM
Some stuff from my workshop: Drawing on the Past, Artistic Anatomy.
This was over at CGTalk and is wrapping up today. I fell way behind in my work, so I'm only showing a few pieces right now, but I'll be updating this stuff as I finish them. I can't show the originals or the review by my instructor, but I did pay careful attention to the details. :)
Skull:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk1_Askull.jpg
Hands:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk4_hands.jpg
Foot:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk4_inner_foot.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk4_dorsum_foot.jpg

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:15 PM
removed thumbs and added the big ones because rebecca is lazy. ;)

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:17 PM
trust me, rebecca....i'll pull out as many stops as possible...

cheers!
d

default-rol
12-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Hey redehlert :D

I'm lookin' forward to cool organ studies turning up. Good choice to start in December... better than the height of summer anyway! :eek: :argh:

MIKE :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
12-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Beauty shots, thanks!

If you can host them and post the URL into the little sun / mountain icon in the EDIT POST text editor, that would be great! Then we can admire your drawings w/o having to click on anything ~ a bunch of lazy brutes we are! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:34 PM
i was doing it the same way as the workshop...hehehee....i'll edit in a momento!
cheers!
d

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:38 PM
hey default!
thanks for stoppin' by....definitely a good time to snuggle up by the fire with a polycystic kidney or aortic aneurysm rather than picnicing with the same items. the ants would be all over the place. a veritable dali piece in the making there. :)
cheers!
d

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:55 PM
now for some of the less than spectacular studies. ;)
but they're studies, none-the-less

A proportion tracing with color box overlay for head sizes.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk2_prprtns.jpg

Torso:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk2_ant_torso.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk2_lat_torso.jpg

Arm:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk3_ant_arm.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/redlrt_wk3_lat_med_arm.jpg

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
12-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Schweet, great to see you posting these! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
12-01-2005, 08:58 PM
And something fun I did on Conceptart.org re: Character of the Week #04 - Mortimer, Devil's Advocate.
Hey Rebecca - have at it! Do whatever work over you wish to!
;)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/redlrt_ChOW04.jpg

Cheers!
D

bumskee
12-01-2005, 09:54 PM
redehlert, you know that mortimer is sweet, I already patted your ass :P on CA but I think you deserve another. Although you know how competitive ChOW is, I think it sort of got lost among other sweet entries. Sickening style dude. love it. Also I really didn't realise you were so heavily into anatomy. It's almost like a medical drawing though, hehe pump some of your style into it! I am sure you will soon enough, sweeeeeeeeeeeeet studies nonetheless. Now that you have all these I think I need to go and do some studies myself, *insert inspiration here* hehe. Rebecca must be extremely happy to see your stuff, coz I am!

:) cheers dude

Min

redehlert
12-01-2005, 09:57 PM
hehe....thanks bumskee!!
ya know, rebecca is going to be teaching another workshop in early 06 - you should dive into it, bro....it was a great learning experience!

cheers!

redehlert

redehlert
12-06-2005, 09:56 PM
i went to the seattle academy of fine art 'drawing jam' last weekend and did a boat load of quick studies, spoke with instructors and atelier students who royally kick my butt and then humbly sat down with my sb and papermate pen to sketch one of the lit studies an atelier student was working on. needless to say, if i had a photo you would see oodles of goofs, but since i don't have one, you'll have to take my word for it.
here it is anywho....

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/120405_skull.jpg

cheers,
d

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 10:02 PM
Ooh, really cool study!! Lots of nice presence, there really is a difference in drawing from life...sweet! :thumbsup:

Did you take any pics at the Drawing Jam that you could post? :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-06-2005, 10:07 PM
sorry, rebecca - no cameras allowed (except the volunteers taking pics for the scrapbook). this will be posted in a few weeks, so keep checkin' SAFA's web site. ;)

studying from life is so nice. i think i'm going to set up a still life scene so i have something to work on time to time. ;)
i really need to remember to work soft with this pen action. i don't have the self training to go one direction (follow form) and then go at an opposing angle to build the form up more, and so forth. i'm too chaotic. is there a particular technique that you use?

cheers and thanks for commenting - always great to have your input. :)

cheers,
d

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 10:10 PM
Hmm, chaotic, really? Hard to imagine, your pieces never turn out looking that way! :)

Will post something a bit later...trying to get out of the office, woo! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 10:19 PM
You know, an exercise that you may want to try sometime is the following:

This is an exercise we did in school ~ it's a bit basic and something of a pain in the bottom, but it does train you to really look at things when you draw:

The exercise basically involved the instructor drawing fine lines with a black marker, believe it or not, on a willing model's face ~ basically he drew small linear shapes, like broken glass, each segment about the size of a grape, crisscrossing the model's face, ears, and neck.

The object was then to draw the LINES that you see, and less the model as you would typically think of drawing him/her. This took a lot of concentration!

While I do not recommend attacking your spouse with a marker (LOL!) you might try drawing over some kind of object or set of still life objects (something disposable and organic, like food for instance) and trying this exercise yourself. It might really help you (not that I think you need help, really) to see AROUND objects more.

Just a suggestion ~ it's really more of an exercise for a beginner, less so for an advanced professional such as yourself. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
12-06-2005, 10:22 PM
perhaps one of my cats will allow me to mark them up. :applause:
kidding.
isn't there a term for what you are describing? cross contours or something? trust me, sometimes i feel going back to the basics is exactly what the doctor ordered. maybe i should go back to drawing circles and squares again. :hmm:
thanks for the tip!
cheers,
d

Rebeccak
12-06-2005, 10:25 PM
perhaps one of my cats will allow me to mark them up. :applause:
If you do (and survive!) can you take pictures? :scream: Now THAT would be a 15 Minute Sketchathon Reference image worth posting! :bounce::scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rk *anticipating*

redehlert
12-13-2005, 04:50 AM
just a note about the pathology/autopsy study front (sorry, no doodles quite yet):
i met with the pathologist lead and director and got the thumbs up from them as a work exchange! i need to undertake (no pun intended) a few tests on blood-borne diseases and on working with formaldehyde (don't quote my spelling....). in a week or so, i'll begin with 3 times a week during my lunch hour and will likely begin with simple organs (hearts, kidneys) and will work up to pathology of those organs. i'll also have the opportunity to witness autopsies (and possibly draw from them if there is room to draw), but that will be in the weeks to come once i have established myself as reliable and professional. cool eh?
i've also been doing anatomy studies and working on free form contours to establish rhythm and flow. :)
i'll scan these in soon.
cheers!
d

redehlert
12-13-2005, 04:53 AM
and even before you reply - you're a hawk on these boards, rebecca! i just posted and boom...there you are lurkin' away. i see you there..... :)
cheers!
d

Mu
12-13-2005, 01:42 PM
and even before you reply - you're a hawk on these boards, rebecca!

ah, you must have become beccophobic (beccophobia=the fear of not being able to post before the anatomy forum leader posts):wise:

Looking forward to your interior anatomy work - will be exciting and instructive!

redehlert
12-13-2005, 03:55 PM
now that's original!
yes....beccaphobia it is!
"a sudden, acute onset of fear that one is about to receive several ROFLs and critical review." :scream:
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 03:57 PM
Hey Dave ~ ;)

Beccaphobia = the fear of being called "Becca".... :D

ROFL...:D

redehlert
12-13-2005, 04:08 PM
hahahahaa.....that's a perfect literal interpretation! :)

"surely there's a doctor in the house!?!"

"yes, ma'am....i'm a doctor. but don't call me shirley." ;)

cheers!
d

ErichSchreiner
12-13-2005, 04:40 PM
hi david. polished your things up, hm? these could be out of a book, you know?

very impressive... :)

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 09:28 PM
David,

Have you ever seen / heard of this (http://www.adam.com/Our_Products/School_and_Instruction/Educators/High_School/aoa.html)?

http://www.adam.com/Our_Products/School_and_Instruction/Educators/High_School/aoa.html

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-13-2005, 10:42 PM
Hey Erich,

Naw....no polishing as of yet....haven't had the time. :)
But at least I posted them....hahaha.
Thanks for stoppin' on in!

Hey Rebecca,

You betcha! A very good book, just didn't see a need to have the online version for the same stuff, ya know? But I'd recommend that book to anyone.

Cheers! :beer:
D

Ego
12-14-2005, 03:52 AM
now that's original!
yes....beccaphobia it is!
"a sudden, acute onset of fear that one is about to receive several ROFLs and critical review." :scream:
cheers!
d
Haaaaaaaaaaaa I am so stealing that and putting it on my sig!
Anyway subscribing to this thread.

redehlert
12-14-2005, 04:11 PM
Greetings QueenSoul!
Glad to have you in my thread! Thanks for all the work you've been putting into the 15 min. sketchthread image library - very helpful!
Cheers!
D

bumskee
12-14-2005, 09:30 PM
redehlert, :) just checking out on ya. you doing this weeks ChOW? Oh btw the link for that anatomy is sweeet.

redehlert
12-14-2005, 09:34 PM
hey bumskee!
thanks for stopping by! luckily i wasn't on the toilet when you popped in. that would have been awkward. lol.
are ya referrin' to the battle angel? not sure i'll have time...heck, haven't even been able to really play in the last cow - although i may enter my pencil drawing. :)
just been workin' too much and workin' on contours and little figure studies.
i'll be lookin' out for your entry, bud!

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Good afternoon, peoples! :)

bumskee, would you like to run a Character Design thread here on the Anatomy Forum, either with or without the aid of Davey Dave (aka Mr. Busy) ;) here? :) Just throwing out a thought. :)

EDIT: Maybe it could just be a brief competition, and then we could see where things went from there? :) No pressure, just an idea. :arteest:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

bumskee
12-14-2005, 09:54 PM
redehlert, hehehe, you are such a good sport dude. Yeah Time is always against us isn't it? I was hoping to see some anatomy studies, hehe was kind of nice way of saying "POST SOMETHING!!!" :P there's so much to study isn't there?? hehe.. there's a good thread on colour in CA if you are into those things by the way. Hope you get something into ChOW!

rebecca, not sure who that is, better look him up! :) Me run something? ohhh.. that's hectic... I am hardly skilled enough to run anything I think. But maybe for beginners, that I may and some black and white quit guides or something. :S ok I think I am talking over the top of my head, hehe.

redehlert
12-14-2005, 09:59 PM
now i just have to respond with some stuff....i'm takin' a quick break to scan in some of the crud i've been doing. trust me, nothing fancy, just doodles. warmin' up. ;)
be posting soon.

Rebeccak
12-14-2005, 10:01 PM
bumskee,

LOL, I've yet to figure out your shyness / underestimation of talent, but if you would like to run a Character Design for Beginners Thread, that would be cool with me. :) Just let me know if you have any time. :)

Dave,

Thanks for the helpful info, and BTW, the American Association of Anatomists (http://www.anatomy.org/) is ironically located in Bethesda, MD, just a hop, skip, and a jump from here.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
12-14-2005, 10:28 PM
thanks for the link rebecca! i'm going to read through and see if it is not too expensive to become a member. :)
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-14-2005, 10:32 PM
Dave,

No prob! :) Lots of great links on that site! Let me know what you think. ;)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-14-2005, 10:37 PM
so there's nothing to be proud of with these studies, other than the fact that i'm going through a period of rediscovery of technique and execution. ;)
i'm hoping to stay on this track of contours to better expedite my understanding and interpretation of organic form. that said, here are two quick studies done on a shuttle to work and home to get the ball rolling. totally difficult to have a big book and sketchbook on the lap whilst riding away. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/120705_statue.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/120705_statue2.jpg

cheers!
d

redehlert
12-14-2005, 10:41 PM
and per rebecca's suggestion, i've decided to start doing contours outta my head to see form more organically and quickly. :)
these are not fancy and actually are quite boring to look at i guess. :) but i've already started to see what these little exercises can do for my work.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/120805_contours.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/120905_contours.jpg

cheers!
d

bumskee
12-14-2005, 11:33 PM
Some solid studies, good on you for tackling contours. :) though a little messy and some are a little short, I think you can experiment with mixing some long strokes too. Just a thought, hehe coz some looks like saussages! or is that the point?

Well keep it going dude! I will drop by soonish and see what you are upto, hehe, cheers

Rebeccak, :) I will let you know when I am up for it

redehlert
12-22-2005, 03:48 AM
hey bumskee!
geez....am i behind in writing back or what? sorry about that. sausages!!! totally! it's the season of holiday sausage....must be on my mind. :)
here's a few studies i posted over in the 15 minute sketch thread.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/121905_redlrt_20m.jpg
and
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/122005_redlrt_15m.jpg
and
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/122005_redlrt_15m2.jpg
and today's...
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/122105_redlrt_20m.jpg

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 03:53 AM
Dave,

Nice lines and general feeling on those first three especially! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 04:18 PM
Wahoo!! I just got some really cool bookages today. :) I am swimming in a sea of Anatomy Knowledge. :scream:

redehlert
12-22-2005, 04:20 PM
lucky duck! so....whatcha get?

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 04:22 PM
McMinn's Color Atlas of Human Anatomy and Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy. :) :bounce:

redehlert
12-22-2005, 05:17 PM
ah! haven't heard of mcminn's....i'll have to look into that one! enjoy netter, but don't get sucked into it, okay? so many think he was/is the end all be all, but i find that there are much better offerings out there. ;)
it's kinda neat, however, that netter's legacy lives on with other artists emulating his style (and much better, IMHO, than netter). :)
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 05:19 PM
McMinn's (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0723432120/qid=1135271968/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4267204-3382434?n=507846&s=books&v=glance) ROCKS. Real photos. I think it's one of the most popular ones. Definitely check it out! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-22-2005, 08:39 PM
hey rebecca!
thanks for the link! yeah, i have that book - just didn't recognize the author. i have an older version from '93 (3rd edition) that still (TO THIS DAY!) smells like a cadaver since i used it for all of my dissection study (in the lab). ah....the essence of....i'll stop there.
enjoy that one and i'm still going to say that 'a.d.a.m. student atlas of anatomy' and 'color atlas of anatomy' by rohen/yokochi are the poop. :)
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-22-2005, 09:54 PM
ARRRRRRRRRGggggggggghhh!!! More books to add to my shopping / Christmas list! :D

Okay, thanks...I will be on the lookout for the 'a.d.a.m. student atlas of anatomy' and 'color atlas of anatomy' by rohen/yokochi' ~ isn't the adam series quite expensive? Eek! :)

~~

I found the A.D.A.M. book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0683301799/qid=1135288780/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4267204-3382434?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) ~ that's it, right? :)

~~

And the Color Atlas I found also:

This is the original one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0683304925/qid=1135288558/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4267204-3382434?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) I think...

And this is the 6th edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0781790131/qid=1135288558/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-4267204-3382434?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) ~ looks like it's slated to be updated in March of next year (2006).
I'll probably wait then. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-23-2005, 12:26 AM
yep - on the adam book.
sweet! a new version of rohen/yokochi! i have the 3rd edition...which is extremely well worn. time to upgrade!
books, books, books!

cheers!
d

redehlert
12-23-2005, 12:30 AM
Here's what i was thinkin' about for a concept art challenge ChOW (Charcter of the Week) #8: Battle Angel - I was going under water, ya dig? :)
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/chow08_wipDec22.jpg
I thought it was anatomical enough to put in here. :)
The angel had to sport wings that weren't the traditional feathery sort. ah well. i used a photo ref for the pose: "Pose File 5" (it's a Japanese book, I think...).

Cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-23-2005, 01:53 AM
Dave,

Really cool piece! The arms are wierd though ~ far too short / little I think. I like the delicacy with which they are drawn, though. :) Otherwise the proportions look pretty good. The face is a little mannish, don't you think? :D I like the overall flowiness. Go water! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
12-23-2005, 04:13 PM
hey rebecca!

good point - such an odd pose. perhaps i should scan it in and if you have time you could perhaps point out how to improve upon the foreshortening of the arms to still read accurately. :)
also, how often do you use perspective (e.g. vanishing lines, vanishing traces, etc.) in your figure studies?

cheers!
d

redehlert
12-23-2005, 06:39 PM
hey rebecca, et al.

figured i'd post this stellar link 'how to' for creature dev and painting by negrotuerto over on concept art. this is to his web site with links to download his tutorials for free. just spreading the love.

http://www.carloscabrera.com.ar/watch-learn/

a true talent and what a gift to give that someone special this holiday season without spending a dime. :)

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-23-2005, 06:48 PM
Dave,

Sweet link! I'll have to look at that more closely when I get home. :)

One thing I notice with your creature studies in general (that I've seen) is that they have a bit of low contrast / are a bit gray / washed out. What makes the guy whose link you posted really pop out is that color saturation and also value contrast he's got going on. No question you can do work of that quality, but I think it may be a time issue for you. (Since I think the creature stuff you just do for fun, and don't take to the same level as your professional work, which is, of course, outstanding). :) It might be cool to really take time on one of these sketches and do a full painting ~ instead of just a bunch of sketches. It's great on the one hand to get all of the mileage, but it might be good every now and then to really focus on one favorite piece and just go to town on it rendering~wise. I'm sure you could produce something kick~a**! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
12-23-2005, 06:57 PM
thanks rebecca!
yep....always a time issue for the fun stuff....gotta practice but tend to not have the time to go the full distance because of work (bleh). i'm looking at this smilie and it's just crackin' me up :buttrock: how funny! at any rate, i'll definitely give one of my sketches a full on go one of these days and (hopefully) take it to a level like my prof stuff. :)
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-23-2005, 07:10 PM
Yep! LOL, that smilie does rather rock! I'm all excited as 4 new books are waiting for me at home...have to pick 'em up, so not even sure what they are yet...but WooHoo anyway! :buttrock:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
12-23-2005, 07:17 PM
presents! wee!
i think kris got me an artistic anatomy book for Christmas. lookin' forward to that!
i'm reading a book on perspective right now....so old school (©1970ish). never hurts to relearn things (thus my question to you about perspective usage in figure drawing).
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
12-23-2005, 07:38 PM
LOL ~ persistent, aren't we? :scream: You know, it seems the person who best has the know how on figures in perspective is Andrew Loomis ~ there are links all over the forum to his free online books (just do a search, and it should turn up). Hogarth also does a lot to cover figures in perspective. I tend to eyeball things ~ I don't have any set method, besides copying from books a lot to kind of get the 'feel' of things. So most of the patented Rebecca system is about gut reaction. ;) Sorry I can't be more useful here...except to refer you to the masters of perspective, Loomis and Hogarth.

FYI, Mike and AOAH plan on running a Perspective Workshop here on the Anatomy Forum sometime early next year.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
12-23-2005, 08:05 PM
yup! most persistent. :)
thanks for the info on the masters - once i finish reading this perspective book, i'll hit that loomis online bookie. :) save loomis! :buttrock:
a perspective workshop sounds awesome!

cheers!
d

Mu
12-23-2005, 08:24 PM
this place feels more and more like Hogwarts! a stream of magical...courses!

redehlert
12-23-2005, 08:28 PM
whew....for a second there, i thought you had gotten a peep at my hind end (re: hogwarts).... ;)
kidding! really.....seriously, i'm kidding!
thanks for stoppin' in mr. mu!
cheers,
d

Rebeccak
12-23-2005, 08:38 PM
Nice. Butt jokes.

:scream:

Monster_General
12-24-2005, 08:37 AM
oyyy ... Those are great ... especially skull ... what was that , real ! :eek:

Gunilla
12-27-2005, 01:46 PM
Hi there! Some really nice drawings you got!
Can't wait to see some of your "live" organ sessions - lucky you for getting the opportunity!
It takes some guts to do it during the lunch though :D

I'm getting so curious about your background since I'm an aspiring medic ill myself... what kind of training do you have?

Rebeccak
12-27-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Gunie: It takes some guts to do it during the lunch though :D
Oh, no...don't encourage him! :eek: He's a corny one, this one...:D :scream:

redehlert
12-27-2005, 04:17 PM
Monster General Thanks! As for the skull, nope...not real, but a study of a master work. If you look at the skull again, it gives you information as to who's work I did a master copy of. Did it traditional, then scanned and photoshop'd like mad. Texture is an effect attributed to the tone layer (in case you were curious) in the maddening hope of making it look more realistic.
Gunilla Oh yes....you've opened the door now. Be prepared for some corny jokes in up coming posts. The 'live' organ drawings will begin in January as I need to take a few exams on blood-borne pathogens and on working with formaldehyde (tissue fixative a la the late 19th century combining formic acid and aldehyde, aka methanol). :) Last but not least, I need to watch a video on 'witnessing an autopsy'....it's going to be quite impressive for sure. I'll be starting with the heart, so take heart, sit back as I tug on your heart strings and whatever else heart related I can pull out. :)
Rebecca LOL....thanks.....
Cheers!
D

redehlert
12-28-2005, 09:37 PM
Yesterday and today - 2 20 minute sketches in Photoshop.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/122705_redlrt_20m.jpg
and
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/122805_redlrt_20m.jpg

Cheers,
Dave

Rebeccak
12-28-2005, 09:38 PM
Sweet, Dave! I think that's your best one yet! :wip:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
12-28-2005, 10:36 PM
many thanks! practice is making things go faster....trying to make more time to fit these in.
the one thing that will be interesting is to put this to practice in figure drawing class when using different tools (and not a wacom/stylus). :)
cheers!
d

Gunilla
12-29-2005, 09:32 AM
Gunilla Oh yes....you've opened the door now. Be prepared for some corny jokes in up coming posts. The 'live' organ drawings will begin in January as I need to take a few exams on blood-borne pathogens and on working with formaldehyde (tissue fixative a la the late 19th century combining formic acid and aldehyde, aka methanol). :) Last but not least, I need to watch a video on 'witnessing an autopsy'....it's going to be quite impressive for sure. I'll be starting with the heart, so take heart, sit back as I tug on your heart strings and whatever else heart related I can pull out. :)

D

Well - I'm really looking forward to follow you on this - I've no immidiate urge to witness an autopsy in person so getting it this way will be perfect. I've got the stomach for reproductions even if I don't have it for the real thing - so go ahead, show us some heart :)

Rebeccak
12-29-2005, 12:14 PM
Orig posted by brave Gunie: so go ahead, show us some heart :)
*shakes head* ~ There's no stopping the Dave now, Gunie...*sighs* :scream:

redehlert
12-29-2005, 04:15 PM
Thanks! I hope to do you all proper with my studies. I can foresee some hurdles to jump through as you may surmise - those organs never look like they do in the illustrated anatomy books. This is where time and dedication in understanding anatomy will really come into play. I hope to be relying on my background for the most part, but also that of the lead pathologist in the lab.

Many thanks,
Dave

redehlert
12-29-2005, 04:16 PM
Rebecca: On another note, as you know I've been working on improving my figure drawings and trying to loosen up and get gesture down a bit better. As you also know, I post my work on conceptart.org in my own sketchbook. There are two recent posts over there #354 and #355 to be exact from 2 friends (one local, one on the East coast). I would really like your input as to how I should proceed with my studies. I thought that doing the short studies would really help me with my speed but perhaps I need to slow down and do longer studies? They're riding me, I tell ya. :)

Here's the direct link to the page the current discussion is on:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41177&page=18


Many thanks,
Dave

Rebeccak
12-29-2005, 04:20 PM
David,

Thanks for the direct link! :)

I will definitely check that out later when I'm at home...TOTALLY spam me to remind me if I forget, as I am wont to do :D though I try my best not to...but you should see the sticky reminders all over my computer, it's my one manifestation of OCD...*washes hands quickly* I mean it's one amongst many! :scream:

Looking forward to checkin' out your work! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
12-29-2005, 04:28 PM
Thanks Rebecca,
It's the same stuff (recent-wise) as is posted here, so it shouldn't look any different, but seeing as how you are an aspiring instructor, I thought it'd be best to get your advice for how to proceed. Essentially, I'm not taking their criticism lightly but trying to see what they see in me and my 'title' versus me and my 'skill sets' that I'm working on. :surprised
Cheers!
Dave

Rebeccak
12-29-2005, 04:40 PM
Ok, here is what I posted to your CA thread ~ some of it may not make sense outside of it's context, but for the most part I think it's clear. :)

~~

Wow...I can feel the love from those last two posts, LMAO!

I'm speechless in the face of such brutal criticism...I know it's coming from the heart,though, and I know David appreciates it. You guys are tough toughies, though, damn!

While I agree that you, Dave, are better at extended, detailed studies than at Gesture Drawing atm, you, brutal critiquers, must bear in mind that these most recent posts of Dave's were done in a strict 15 minute format. I think it's admirable to work on one's weaknesses ~ clearly you, Dave, can knock anyone's socks off with a detailed drawing or painting, but Gesture Drawing is by it's nature a different animal entirely ~ and while you were studiously studying real anatomy and learning how to create highly realistic renders, those of us in art school were laboring through learning how to do a more loose and gestural type of drawing and getting various bits of art supply goo in our hair (still trying to get rid of some of that, thank you!)

Training is training, and it's tough to break out of. I admire you, Dave, for knowing yourself and your weaknesses and focusing on them. Ironically, when I started art school, I was more of a painter than a drawer~er, but I got my ass kicked so soundly in drawing that it drove me to get better. Now I can't paint, LOL. But you get what I mean.

I do agree with your friends' points re: self~assessment about your talents, which are so many it's ridiculous...I think there's more of a mental barrier in place than an actual one, which I have had a hard time understanding...perhaps we should all perform a drawing intervention and force Dave to do 2 minute drawings, in purple pants, with that guy from SNL saying in the bkgrd, "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough...and doggone it, people like my Gesture Drawings!"

Umm...did I mention I was as corny as Dave?

At any rate...I'm unsure what to advise ~ learning something new eg a new approach such as Gesture is difficult. And it's not applicable to your, Dave's professional art, it's more applicable to your personal art. So it's tough, mentally, to find a balance and the requisite devotion to doing something which is frankly, only for fun in your, Dave's, case.

Does this make any sense? I hope I have not further confused the issue here.
Let me just say that of course I highly believe in your talents and know that with time, Gesture will start to stick. It can take years to learn. I wouldn't worry about it.

Cheers, ;)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
12-29-2005, 07:19 PM
Dave,

Regarding your earlier question about how to proceed with your studies, I think that you should go with your gut feeling. I was talking to shyam about this same thing yesterday ~ and ultimately it's up to the individual to know what is best in terms of study 'methodology'. I don't think there's a right or a wrong way to do things, frankly. If you feel like you are getting something out of the 15 minute sketchathon (which it looks to me like you are) then stick with that, and ignore your friends. ;) Or, if what they are saying makes sense, then go with what they say. Mix it up. You don't have to only do one thing to the exclusion of everything else. That's why it's kind of nice to have the 15 MS as a tie in to the OFDWs. You can start something fast / non~committal, and if you decide you like it, transition it into a longer piece. I really like the 15 MS method because it gets you past the psychological hurdle which prevents a lot of us from starting in on something. That's exactly how I approached my most recent OFDW 010 piece ~ I timed myself and started painting for 15 minutes. Then, once I had gotten going, I just proceeded to continue to paint.

You may feel inspired at some point to push your 15 MS pieces further and make them into more extended studies. Great! If not, you've gotten the gestural / fast practice which you really want. I totally understand the vagaries of time / interest / etc. and all of these things have to come together and the stars align for one to invest the time in an extended study (particularly when one's profession is so demanding and so similar to one's personal artistic pursuits).

The long and short of it is, be kind to yourself. Understand that things take time, and energy, and investment to develop. I'm not hyping myself at all, but it has taken years for me to get to the point where I feel comfortable in drawing in my own style. If I were asked to do the types of things you do professionally, that would take me years more of training and practice. There's no race here ~ we'll be learning for the rest of our lives. So enjoy it! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

redehlert
12-29-2005, 09:24 PM
Thanks Rebecca! I responded to both of your posts in CA.org. I'm going to add my SB url to my sigi so you have quick access when you feel the urge.
Cheers!
Dave

Rebeccak
12-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Coolio. Just posted a reply. I'm starting to feel like I have multiple personalities. :curious: :eek: :D

Cheers, ;)

~Rk

redehlert
12-30-2005, 06:26 PM
I have multiple personalities too! HAHAHA....

At any rate, I posted this in my CA.org SB and figured since this is 'anatomy' I'd decided to post a little bit of med illus work to give ya'll an idea of what I do on a regular basisówithin reasonóI'm all over the place, and today it's breast cancer removal. This image is the prep tone work before I create instances of tumor locations and surgical incision plus removal lines.
I think it will be fun to post the before of this particular shot because it is a paint over from a project I did over a year ago. My ability to 'see' has improved. If anyone is interested, I'll post a side by side.
Here's a left breast for you to ring in the New Year. :)
By the way, Kraissl lines are the grey lines shown overlying the anatomy. Surgeons use these lines to determine the best incisions and underlying tissue removal to ensure a near invisible resection post operatively. :) Too much info? HAHAHAA.....deal.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/123005_breast.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
12-30-2005, 08:59 PM
And here is how it will look at final. This will be a 4-part figure currently 5.3x5.8" but will need to be sized to 5x5" in the end. Label and vector details in Illustrator.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/123005_breastfinal.jpg

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
01-03-2006, 06:45 AM
Gah! I popped this puppy open in the 'Business Center' at my hotel just as someone was walking by, and I was assaulted mammarily! :scream: God knows what the cleaning staff thought I was up to...:rolleyes: :D :scream:...but oh well, good thing they'll never see me again! :scream:

Erm, Dave, would you be offended if I told you you had a nice rack? :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
01-03-2006, 04:19 PM
hahahha.....nice rack. excellent!
as you can see, i'm a mutant.....all left breasts and one was just not enough. :)
btw, the client loved this figure.
cheers!
d

erilaz
01-04-2006, 02:25 AM
Them's some nice curves! Beautiful, despite the whole cancer thing...

redehlert
02-01-2006, 11:31 PM
um. yeah....been neglecting this child of mine.
some early work for the open figure drawing #12 (photoshop, 45 minutes or so):
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/012306_dante_wip.jpg

and a more recent quick doodle, roughly 15 minutes (because i'm procrastinating the hell outta this):
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/013106_dante_study.jpg

did some more anatomy illustration overlay work at my day job:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/012706_foot.jpg

something a bit more interesting:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/020106_neckglands1.jpg
and zoom:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/020106_neckglands2.jpg

a pencil study of a girl from a pose book i have - roughly 1.75 hour
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/013106_girl.jpg

and in my spare time (ho-ho!) i plan on rendering up this heart illustration i did for a project that never came to fruition roughly 5 months back.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/020106_heartwip1.jpg

so....there.
peace!
d

Rebeccak
02-02-2006, 12:19 AM
Dave,

Great to see your updates! A hearty welcome back! :D *Why does Dave always bring out the cheesy in me?* :curious: *Not that it's hard* :D

Looks like you're loosening up in your med. illustrator work...is that CHOW influence I see creeping in? :D Not a bad thing at all! I also really like seeing the figure study...quite nice! (Though her legs may need a bit of a shavin'!) :D...sorry...it's the cheese...:D

Great stuff! Keep it comin'!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
02-02-2006, 01:11 AM
yuk it up....
;)
ya know....my wife said the same thing with the legs - furry!
egad, i try to tone outside the lines and ya'll think she's in dire need of a shave. lol.
thanks for stoppin' in and yes, rebecca, my creatures and weekly challenges are definitely affecting my work - textures and loosenin' up a lot. color is starting to come a bit easier too.

peace!
d

Gunilla
02-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Very nice rendering of the salivary glands - and great idea to use a photo as backdrop. Looks a bit spooky but works well.

...taking notes... :thumbsup:

redehlert
02-14-2006, 09:40 PM
Thanks Gunilla!

Here's some figure drawin' poopies:

These are some 1 minute studies from figure drawing on Feb. 11. Mind you, there are many...bear with me:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_01.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_02.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_03.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_04.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_05.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_06.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_07.jpg

That's it for the 1 minute studies.

redehlert
02-14-2006, 09:40 PM
now on to the 2s:

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_08.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_09.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_10.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_11.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_12.jpg

redehlert
02-14-2006, 09:41 PM
now on to the 3-5s (most of these are 5s, but my first one in the lower margin is a 3 - sharpening pencils, gearing up, etc)
one note: i opted to slow down because my brain was melting at this point. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_13.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_14.jpg

Whew...now back to work. Next Saturday will be 25 minute poses, so I hope to not kill ya'll with SB pages upon pages.

redehlert
02-14-2006, 09:42 PM
Also, here's some more anatomy stuff: revision work to a 9to5 project - added in the sole of the foot and pushed the bones back, as well as addin' in the fibula and talus. Joy!
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_foot.jpg

Her'es another: back of the thigh at the top, near that butt crease - focus is on the sciatic nerve's distinct branching to the hamstrings. This will be 18x24" for a poster, then scaled down for publication. Drawing was done with 2B pencil on tracing paper, scanned and toned up quickly in Photoshop. Labeled in InDesign.
I have found the beauty of the "Comb" brush and have created a quick Action script (F5=angle 1, F6=angle 2) to toggle quickly between the two brushes and enable fast cross hatching. Is it possible to love life any more? Sweet bliss.

I'm ramblin....here's the image.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/020606_hamstring.jpg

Update on my glands/lymph nodes figure. Aside from revising some wet hilites due to duplicating and moving some of the lymph, this is what it will look like (but with labels added). May be including the trachea, but waiting on client confirmation on that one. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/020906_neckglands.jpg

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
02-14-2006, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Dave:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021406_figures_13.jpg
Great to see your new work Dave! Me likes those top two figures a lot! :thumbsup: Flood away!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
02-16-2006, 04:13 PM
Hey Rebecca!
Thanks - means a lot to get that vote of confidence from ya. :)
I've been doing a lot of reading of artistic anatomy books and your course as well as comments by past instructors are starting to sink in. As long as I'm patient, the figure will come. ;)

Here's a bit more work on my heart (self-motivated) project. Only an additional 30 minutes so far....
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/021506_heart_wip2.jpg

I figure this will take me about 8 more hours before I'm satisfied. :)

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
02-16-2006, 04:25 PM
Really beautiful work, David! :thumbsup: There's a nice dreamy quality to this painting, which me likes!! :)

Ever seen the work of Joel Peter Witkin? Oh, it's completely sublime! Creepy sublime, but sublime nonetheless...

http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/jpwdefault.html

http://www.masters-of-fine-art-photography.com/artphotogallery/database/joel_peter_witkin_03.jpg

http://www.masters-of-fine-art-photography.com/artphotogallery/photographers/joel_peter_witkin_05.html

http://www.masters-of-fine-art-photography.com/artphotogallery/photographers/joel_peter_witkin_11.html


Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
02-26-2006, 12:57 AM
hey rebecca,

i'lll have to check into that artist - creepy and cool at the same time. :)

here's my arm study from figure drawing today. i couldn't get into drawing her entire form because of a few mental blocks: 1) her tat covered her entire back making it intriguing to look at, but difficult to establish shadows and contours of the back; 2) only a fraction of her face was showing (profile) and it was all covered with hair (not that she was hairy...she had a mop of hair on her head....); 3) too many lights made it tough to establish good form. that said, i was totally intrigued by her left elbow and side of body. this is about a 1.5 - 1.75 hour study since i erased and re-erased three times prior to this study. argh. btw, 4b pencil is my new best friend.
the drawing presented here is roughly 10x20" and had to be scanned in two passes....pardon my quick match up and blend. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/022506_figurestudy.jpg

redehlert
02-26-2006, 12:59 AM
This is a revision to my hamstring project (posted a few days back on my ca.org sb thread). The positions of the sciatic nerve branches are more specific now based on my client's cadaveric dissections. I spent two more hours on this to get the nerves in place and rendered up the muscle bellies a wee bit more. The difficult part was figuring out the proper distances based off of my client's findings and my drawings (scale ratios, et al). But I figured it out. Enough talking....here's the image:

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/022306_hamstring.jpg

Cheers,
D

redehlert
03-09-2006, 05:12 PM
Sorry I've been away for so long. Oy.
Here's a massing of things I have done recently. Please pardon some of the images - they're for work and are educational-based. :)
That said, on with the update:

Here's an update to my heart illustration - self project. Slowly building the form. Don't know why this is taking me so long....lol. It's a bit on the dark side (not of the force kind...) but it will lighten up soon.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/022706_heartwip.jpg

The next three are images for education in Thailand (health practicioners on HIV-AIDS). This is male ano-rectal and uro-rectal anatomy in transverse and mid-sagittal section as well as from below. These were done 100% digitally.
This first one took about 3 hours.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/022806_anal_canal.jpg
This second one took about 2.5 hours.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/022806_urogen_mm_male.jpg
This third one took about 6 hours.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030106_cross_sect_male_r1.jpg

All three of the aforementioned images would be for projection and print. They do have labels in the final final form. :)

A little hamstring update - my cient wanted to better show the distribution of the nerves to each muscle (biceps femoris, semitend and semimemb muscles). It'll be grayscale for final and with labels....just added a quick value layer for the joy of it.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030506_hamstrings.jpg

Here's an update to the foot project. I had to completely redo it since they wanted to move away from this x-ray version I had done earlier and have a more neutrally posed foot. The foot is an actual photograph of my client's foot. :)
Rather than repaint the skin of the foot, I went with just illustrating the bones within the foot (as determined by surface landmark and reference material) and giving a bit of vector quality to the foot outline and nerve. Both the hamstring and the foot images were for the same client - both were successes! Will be used for poster and in print. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_foot.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
03-09-2006, 05:13 PM
More figure drawing from last Saturday. These are one, two and five minute studies. Pencil on SB paper, roughly 5" high for the good lot of them.

The onesies: always tough to warm up....I also arrived late, so not so many of these. :(
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure1s_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure1s_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure1s_03.jpg

Twosies: starting to loosen up a bit...I think. :)
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure2s_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure2s_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure2s_03.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure2s_04.jpg

fivesies: droppin' in "slinky" tone
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure5s_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/030706_figure5s_02.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
03-09-2006, 05:14 PM
Here's a fun Thunderdome project going on between Seattle and SoCal called "A boy and his dog". I'm taking a children's book theme to this project.

This was the first take. A 45 minute sketch on what i had in mind initially.
Arthur, as a boy and his precious pal Cabal chase after this pig-nosed turtle in mid air...yeah...they defy gravity....it's my story. :) lol
The turtle's name is Tared, aka the twrch trwyth in the mythic tale of King Arthur and Cabal hunting down this boar/pig which has a comb and scissors attached to its body. Long story short, Culhwch (a cousin of arthur's) wants to marry this gal Olwen and he can only do so with this hair cutting ceremony as stated by Olwen's gigantic padre Ysbaddaden. Only Arthur's dog, Cabal, can hunt down this "pig" to retrieve the items.
Whew!...that said, this is just a very light hearted interpretation. I was going to have a pig flying instead of the pig-nosed turtle playing on the 'when pigs fly' theme to aide the idea behind them all floating. (Of course, this is what I actually did do, as seen in the updated concept after this image).

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/030306_boyanddog.jpg

Okay! I went back to work on the concept and tried to be more direct and less obscure with my story telling. I want this to be as if it were a page in a children's book. I'm using my friend's typeface: gracie script. It's quickly placed for now....
Further development on this concept is that the scene will be from a story quilt, and not a book. That said, everything is going to be 'embroidered' and have little gems and beads all drawn in to give the sense of dimensionality and some historical flair. Some of the earliest quilts were actually done to provide some comfort when wearing armor. Thought this was a perfect combination and something out of the norm from just painting the scene. It's also a huge challenge for me. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/030306_boyanddog_wip.jpg

I'll be working on this with a lot of heart and determination this weekend. ;)

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
03-09-2006, 07:48 PM
Heya Dave, great to see you back!

Arrgh, I've been swamped with Workshop...a great time, but you know how much work it involves. ;) My apologies as I have been awol as a result...:rolleyes:

Btw, did you know that CGTalk has a Challenge going on? The theme is "Journey Begins" and it's only recently started. Join in, it would be a blast!

Challenge Forum:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=191

Join:
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/enter.php

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

LoTekK
03-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Your anatomical studies are awesome. Like, seriously. I love the Thunderdome sketches, too. But y'know what really floored me? Your figures. Lovely, lovely flow, very gracious and very dynamic. Nice values, too, for the last set. :thumbsup:

redehlert
03-10-2006, 05:00 PM
Hey Rebecca,

Many thanks for the link to the competition! Not sure I'm going to do it...hard to say with work and....ahem....upcoming projects...nudge, nudge.
I may be working on some gaming concepts with a buddy- kinda metaphysical stuff....but would be cool none-the-less. Who knows. ;)
Hope the workshop is going good!

LoTekk - Many thanks! Figure work has been on my brain ever since the "Drawing on the Past" class wrapped up. Been pretty consistent since mid Jan 2006 with going to Saturday figure drawing. I'll keep it going and this Spring I'll start hitting the zoo for animal figure studies. :) I'm honored by your comments!

Cheers!
D

erilaz
03-14-2006, 01:34 PM
YARGH! I can't keep up following the awesomeness of Dave! :scream:

Fantastic work. I keep bouncing between here and your CA sketchbook!

SpiritDreamer
03-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Hi....Redehlert // David

Those are some beautiful gesture drawings you have going there....great line work
and technique...really enjoying your thread....:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

redehlert
03-14-2006, 10:28 PM
Yargh indeed!
Thanks Martin! BTW, the only 'real' difference between this SB and my SB on conceptart will be a lack of creatures in this thread. :)

Spirit Dreamer - I'm honored. Thank you for stoppin' by and giving me your thoughts. :)

Here's a doodle for the 15 minute sketch thread (although mine always come out as 20 minutes....sigh). ;)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031406_redlrt_20m.jpg

JoshT
03-15-2006, 03:37 AM
Hi, was just looking through some threads, saw yours, and really liked a bunch of your work, especially the gesture in your figures. Please keep it up :)

erilaz
03-15-2006, 07:40 AM
Why is it that your 20 minutes look like my hours? :D

Rocking.

redehlert
03-15-2006, 05:02 PM
JoshT - hey there! thanks for stoppin' in and giving me your input on the gestural studies. these usually kick my butt, so i am grateful for the support! i'll be posting more today, last saturday's gestures need to be scanned and loaded. wasn't happy with last sat's model. she basically did nothing but standing poses - where's the dynamo in that?!?!
:)

Martin - trust me, that's how i usually feel! for some reason, this image just flowed. there are numerous errors, but as long as i get the gesture and mood down, then i feel i've accomplished something. thanks! I've been using a soft round to create my envelope and then generate the form using the same brush. Internal lines are built up using the various comb brushes i set up as actions for quick access. For a quick tut on this, please go here:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=772319&postcount=11

This always speeds up the process. :)

Cheers!
D

redehlert
03-15-2006, 08:12 PM
This image really kicked my butt. I only wanted to put 15 minutes into it and ended up frustrated and a holy failure. ;)
That said, I humbly submit a 35 minute entry and hope you'll forgive the disproportions extraordinaire! Dunno why this one was so damn tough.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031506_redlrt_35m.jpg

Cheers,
D

SpiritDreamer
03-15-2006, 10:26 PM
Hi...Redehlert // David...:)

I think I see what messed you up, a little.....needs that broad sweeping ..S..curve. that
his whole body creates, with all the weight, tension, and stress ending up in his outside leg
and foot...heavy shadow down there, will also throw that leg back into space. A lot of twist
going on in that figure. Hope that helps a little.:shrug:
Keep up the great work...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

redehlert
03-15-2006, 11:42 PM
TOTALLY!
That's what Rebecca picked up on too. :banghead:
Don't know why I didn't see that in my initial gesture. It's only the most dynamic part of the pose. Duh.
Thanks for the catch, Glenn!

Cheers!
D

ps. Call me Dave....it's allllllll good. :)

Rebeccak
03-15-2006, 11:56 PM
LOL when I read Glenn's comment, I thought we must sound like the S~Curve Mob Squad, hehe... :D

tizianoadmirer
03-17-2006, 10:39 PM
Yes. That's what happens when you use Michelangelo as refs - even a simple, static pose is full of tension and dynamics :)
BTW, where did you get this ref picture from ? The actual sculpture in Rome has a (ugly) bronze loin cloth, so maybe your ref is a master copy too...
Anyway, your sketch rocked.
-TA

redehlert
03-17-2006, 10:53 PM
Thanks m8!
Gotta long way to go, but doing these studies helps me appreciate how much work went into creating the true master pieces. :)

Per request:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2879519&postcount=25

Cheers!
Dave

bumskee
03-17-2006, 11:27 PM
:) hello, how things? those quick sketches are looking great, nice proportion and weight. Love the hatching, did you always hatch like that? hehe they look great and love the brush strokes in PS sketches. Hope you are doing well! cheers! Min

redehlert
03-18-2006, 12:19 AM
well be still my beating cardiac muscles....min!
i'm well, m8....glad to have you in here! hope you are well, bud!
cross hatching....um....i used to be more of a smear/soft blend artist....trying to break out a bit more. :)
thanks!
d

redehlert
03-20-2006, 08:06 AM
here's a peak at my entry for the Tdome. I've worked on it enough....but damn it all if I couldn't work on it for another 10 hours. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/redehlrtvtrevor_tdome.jpg

redehlert
03-20-2006, 08:07 AM
okay....figure drawing dump.
this first batch is from saturday, march 11. sorry for the late scan. i also inverted these cuz they ended up suiting my mood...kinda chalk board style.
and let me just say that this model was BORING...same stance, over and over and over - standing, standing with a sword, standing with a pole, standing with a pole up me butt (kidding....she never had a sword) ;)

one minute studies:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_1min_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_1min_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_1min_03.jpg

redehlert
03-20-2006, 08:08 AM
here are the 2 minute studies:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_2min_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_2min_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_2min_03.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_2min_04.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_2min_05.jpg

a three minute study as i adjusted focus:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_3min_01.jpg

and the five minute studies:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_5min_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_5min_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031106_5min_03.jpg

joy.

redehlert
03-20-2006, 08:08 AM
Here's a set from this past Saturday, March 18.
These were 25 minute studies and thank God for a model with heart and soul.
I opted to break out my bic pen and my Copic Sketch "E43 Dull Ivory" marker. I killed this marker and by the end of the 3 hours I had to move to my "W4 Warm Gray No.4" marker which I wasn't too happy about. I just like the warmer toned markers. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_01.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_02.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_03.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_04.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_05.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/031806_25min_06.jpg

she made me happy. and of course, i was jammin' out to the ole ipod with some old Seal and some Nortec Collective. really a nice morning. :)

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
03-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Lots of really cool work here, Dave! :thumbsup: Love to see fast Gesture Drawings ~ really nice feeling to these, very cool. If you'd like, I can do a few draw~overers...heh, up to you. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
03-20-2006, 07:04 PM
sure, rk! if you wanna doodle over my doodles, i can see nothing but pure benefit in my book!

cheers and thanks.
:)

Rebeccak
03-20-2006, 07:09 PM
Woo diddley doodely doo! (does best Ned Flanders impression). :D K, will doodle away soon. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

aggie93
03-20-2006, 08:28 PM
redehlert - I may have already told you this, but I thought about being in medical illustration. I like the last gesture drawings. I am assuming by your writings this is live labs?

redehlert
03-20-2006, 08:34 PM
have fun, rk!!

aggie93 - yep! as live as alive can be. i pay $6 each saturday for three hours of figure drawing with different models and a moderator calling the shots. :) it's a good time.

being a med illus is fun...not the end all be all, but it has very good aspects to it. :)

cheers!
d

aggie93
03-20-2006, 09:30 PM
aggie93 - yep! as live as alive can be. i pay $6 each saturday for three hours of figure drawing with different models and a moderator calling the shots. :) it's a good time.

WOW:eek: The labs I go to cost $20-30 for three hours. That may include two models. We also have a moderator that get them in pose. It is fun, but gosh, I wish it was the same cost as y'alls.

redehlert
03-20-2006, 10:15 PM
yeah, that's interesting price diff there!
the models get paid $40 for the three hours. if there are a lot of people that come to figure drawing (usually 20 people), that extra money probably gets banked for saturdays that only have like 6 people (eg long poses are usually the smallest). i'm sure there's overhead, but whatever it is, i'm glad it only costs $6. :)

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
03-20-2006, 10:47 PM
Ho~kay, finally finished your reviews. We've got motion, even! :)

Unfortunately, I can't attach these as the files are too large...I can email them to you and post jpgs here of the final results.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20redehlert/David_2.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20redehlert/David_3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20redehlert/David_4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20redehlert/David_5.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20redehlert/David_6.jpg


Hope these are useful! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
03-20-2006, 10:53 PM
Totally useful, Rebecca...many heart felt thanks. I know how busy you are. :)

Any update on the ole project?

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
03-20-2006, 10:58 PM
Dave,

You're welcome! I just emailed you ~ files are attached. Looking into some video hosting options, hopefully I can link those up soon. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
03-21-2006, 06:38 PM
Okay....March 20 = first day of spring. What better way to say hello to spring with a touch of winter? My wife and I went to a botanical garden on Sunday and I just had to do a flower. Goal - something different and start studying textures and try to translate them into brushes in Photoshop. :) This is approximately a three hour study.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/032006_wntrorchid.jpg

Cheers,
D

ps. Rebecca -- thanks for the flash files! Is it possible to send me swf versions so I can just open the player and enjoy your efforts to help me improve?

pss. Richer's "Artistic Anatomy" is going to kick my butt. :)

Rebeccak
03-21-2006, 06:42 PM
WOW, David, that's beautiful! :thumbsup:

Great painting, thanks for posting! :)

Do you have winzip? It's a free download:

http://www.winzip.com/

The .swf files should be contained within the zip files ~ if they're not, let me know, and I'll just send those. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
03-24-2006, 10:39 PM
silly me...i forgot to update this thread with my winter orchid coloring - not done, but something, at least.

flower power:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conceptart/032206_wntrorchid.jpg

---
Here's an update on an older breast figure done at the end of December, 2005 (work related): original grayscale version (http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/123005_breastfinal.jpg). And the revised/colorized version is below. Minor tweak to textures, etc. :) Tumors aren't usually blue, but the audience will understand that it is strictly to be a point of focus in relation to the areolar complex (that's the nipple and halo in case you were curious). In my native PSD file, I have the entire area in full color on its own layer, but dropped the saturation out of the areas I didn't feel were important. I wanted to draw attention to the nipple/areola and the tumor region beneath the breast tissue.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/032306_breastfinal2.jpg

Cheers!
D

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 10:52 PM
Wow, Dave, the orchid is just gorgeous! :) My mom would kill for a painting like that, so if I just, erm, swipe yours and make mum a little mom's day screensaver, no one will be the wiser! :scream: Totally kidding you, but seriously, the orchid is great, and nice rack as well! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
03-24-2006, 10:56 PM
go ahead, rebecca....as long as it keeps my signature and copyright info at the bottom, your request is granted. thanks for the comments!!
i'm honored.

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 11:00 PM
You could probably do a great series like this and sell it to a gift card company. The owner of a local printing company through which I printed some business cards found out I was an illustrator of sorts and said he would be happy to print some of my pieces ~ I think that often small printing houses look for local illustrators to do this kind of thing ~ it might be something worth checking out. :)

EDIT: BTW, you should definitely put together your CGPortfolio (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=331181)! Especially now that you're a CGS member ~ it's a really cool thing!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

redehlert
03-24-2006, 11:22 PM
Hey Rebecca,

CG Portfolio: yeah, keep meaning to do that! Thanks for the push. :)

Interesting idea about the local printer/card shop. May have to look into that as well. I really just wanted to do something for my wife and at the same time explore textures and other 'anatomy'.... :)

Cheers!!
Dave

Rebeccak
03-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Cool. :) It will be great to see your work all in one place!

Off for pizza then, W00t! ;)

redehlert
03-25-2006, 12:22 AM
holy cow that portfolio is extensive...it's gonna take a bit to build. but, i have my vitals 'about' all in place. hahahaha...


mmmmm pizzza.
droool.........

redehlert
04-12-2006, 09:17 PM
yeah, so i'm once again slackin' on keeping this thread current.
well, i'll backtrack, but for now, here's a sketch i'm colorizing but plan on keeping the pencil work in the mix.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conart2/041206_chow_wip.jpg

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 09:18 PM
David,

You are a sketching fool! How do you work so fast? :eek:

Cheers :)

redehlert
04-12-2006, 09:20 PM
the question is - how do you respond so fast! ;)
sketchbook is with me wherever i go. this is about 2.5 hours of sketchin', .5 of scan and color prepping and an hour of colorizing so far.
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 09:24 PM
I don't know if I want to know the answer...but what is that tiny falling green pellet in the center of the drawing? :D I will now proceed to cover my ears, I mean, eyes. ;)

redehlert
04-12-2006, 09:27 PM
outta the gutter....outta the gutter!
it's his button to his shorts - he's a big boy and squating to get ready for the face off popped it off its usual location. :)
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 09:30 PM
Ah ~ lol, coming from the guy who created the self~sufficient / sustaining creature :D I couldn't be too sure. ;)

If you ever had the time, you should do a Tutorial here on the Anat Forum ~ c'mon Dave...you know you want to! :)

redehlert
04-12-2006, 10:04 PM
and what, pray tell, would i tut that you haven't already done so well?
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 10:12 PM
Pssht, whatever :rolleyes: :p ~ how about a nice "Painting with Textures" Tutorial, or "Creature Design" Tutorial? We have a whole forum dedicated to Tutorials (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199) now :deal: ~ feel free to bring it on! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
04-12-2006, 11:04 PM
Make me!
hahhahaa....kidding.
Perhaps me and min (bumskee) can do a tut together....he's the one i started to emulate in textureville. ;) I'll ask him...
Cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 11:18 PM
LOL ~ I can't make you...I can only say "Pleeease" and hope that bumskee rolls through. ;)

You're the best Dave! I know you can bring it! ;)

BTW, what were you doing on the "female only" forum at CA? :curious:

redehlert
04-12-2006, 11:45 PM
hoping to pose as a female so i could win one of the ten spots of free admittance, of course! ;)
conart is down right now, so i'll have to wait to chat with min. an aside, if i did do something, i'd say it'll be a week before anything can happen. perhaps i'll do a flower tut - i'm learning as i go, so it'd be more of a 'see how dave screws this up' versus a tut. hah!
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 11:53 PM
Ah, that's why you're around so much today. ;) Whenever you have the chance, Dave. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
04-13-2006, 12:22 AM
Ding! You win the prize! :)
lol....I'm so transparent.
Will do, Rebecca!
Cheers,
D

Rebeccak
04-13-2006, 12:34 AM
ROFL ~ poor Dave ~ CA down, nothing to do. :D Tutorial creation time, then! :D

umbrellasky
04-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Oooo wow! awsome thread, great drawing skills!

redehlert
05-02-2006, 09:07 AM
Thanks! And I'm sorry for such a tardy response. :)
I'll get more gunk up in here sometime soon. I did add some images to my cgportfolio though!
Cheers!
Dave

Rebeccak
05-02-2006, 04:32 PM
Heya Dave, I've just seen your CGP images! That's great! You should activate your Guestbook. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-02-2006, 05:04 PM
activated! thanks!!
still getting used to the portfolio options. ;)
cheers!
d

ps. thanks for networking!

Rebeccak
05-02-2006, 05:09 PM
Sweet. Added a comment, I think it will take a bit to show up, though. Looking forward to seeing more of your awesome work up! :thumbsup:

redehlert
05-06-2006, 01:21 AM
ooh! new avatar for rk! i like it....
ninja vanish!
"poof!"






am i still here? shoot. well, in that case...here's some stuff for a book i'm working on. it's all about oxygen and how it affected evolution. these will be in a composite figure with an oxygen curve for the cambrian period.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050406_Diagoniella.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050406_Micromitra.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050406_Ediacaran.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050506_Marrella.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050506_Marrella_zoom.jpg

more to come....
cheers!
d

Rebeccak
05-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Wow, beautiful work as ever, Dave. :) Your b/w's have an uncommon elegance to them. Definitely some great work here! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-08-2006, 10:55 PM
Hey Rebecca,
Thanks for the comment! Perhaps that 'elegance' is stemming from four years of stone lithography (nothing but grayscale). ;) But then again, I could just be finding myself at last. :) I'm humbled, none the less!

Two more...!

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050806_trilobite.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050806_Pikaia.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

Rebeccak
05-08-2006, 10:58 PM
Wow, that last one in particular is fantastic! You're on a roll! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
05-09-2006, 12:52 AM
Thanks Rebecca. Yeah, that last one was fun. I think I like to do slimy better than shelly. :)
Here's a composite ideation layout for the Cambrian chapter frontispiece.

Cheers!
D

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/050806_cambrian.jpg

redehlert
05-10-2006, 04:49 PM
silly little dodad for a creature of the week. this is about 30 minutes of photoshop cs2. i'm playin' with custom brushes and using the warp tool (a part of the transform tool).

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conart2/050906_cow45_wip.jpg

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
05-10-2006, 05:58 PM
OMG, Dave, your creatures always crack me up. They have that certain je ne sais croix! :scream: Your serious piece looks great too. Great work!

See you guys in Bah~stahn!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

redehlert
05-10-2006, 08:56 PM
:)
I'm happy they bring smiles! I'm trying to avoid all the death creatures out there and do my own thing. It's been a struggle to find my own track and it's recent that I don't have to be like others and do blood and guts, etc.

Here's an update - another 20 minutes.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/conart2/051006_cow45_wip.jpg

Yep! See ya in Boston. :)

Rebeccak
05-10-2006, 08:59 PM
That's great Dave. :)

I don't know if you've seen this thread, but I think you'd enjoy it:

SPOTLIGHT: Best of Creature Designers - Year 1 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=349061)

I'm particularly fond of LadyMedusa's creatures (she's a CA girl herself) which are whimsical and fun vs. bloodbathy:

LadyM's concept sketches (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3477908&postcount=3)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-10-2006, 11:30 PM
thanks rebecca! i'll go check out the good lady's work. yup, she's a ca-er. :)

here's a new creature for the evolution project. now in the ordovician period. this is about 2 hrs of work.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051006_crinoid.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051006_crinoid_zoom.jpg

cheers!
d

Cyanid
05-10-2006, 11:37 PM
I would like to see those creatures like the crinoid in color!
the happy worker is making me smile :D keep it up, you have much talent!

redehlert
05-11-2006, 01:03 AM
Thanks Cyanid!
Wish they could be in color, but I'm only allowed grayscale for the project and time...I'm only given about 2 hrs per image cummulative. :)

And....some more evolution stuff...nautiloid and zoom in. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051106_Nautiloid.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051106_Nautiloid_zoom.jpg

redehlert
05-12-2006, 01:10 AM
here fishy fishy....

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051106_ostracoderm.jpg

redehlert
05-13-2006, 01:13 AM
sea scorpion work in progress - this guy is too cool.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051206_Eurypterus.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051206_Eurypterus_zoom.jpg

cheers!
d

SpiritDreamer
05-13-2006, 01:38 AM
Hey....David....just thought I would stop bye and tell you that I am really enjoying all
of your critter renderings...really detailed work....GREAT job on them:thumbsup: ...would be great to see them sometime...all on one page in an undersea envioriment painting...just thinking out loud.:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

redehlert
05-15-2006, 03:42 AM
Hey Glenn!

What a great idea! I'll have to see about a evolutionary composite to see them all together in one space. Thanks for the idea and the thoughts on my work. :)

Cheers!
Dave

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 04:52 AM
Been out of town for a few days, and am playing catch up to all the great work that's been posted...this recent work of yours Dave reminds me of my early fascination of and love for all things archaeology ~ I used to tell people when I was around 7 or 8 that I wanted to be a paleontologist. We once had this elementary school fieldtrip which I was totally psyched for where I thought we were going to go on an archaeological dig. Imagine my disappointment when it turned out to be just a big sandbox in a classroom with a bunch of fake fossils. :D :scream:

Ah well, c'est la vie. :D

Keep up the great work! Even your ancient sea creatures have a little bit of Dave personality!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

redehlert
05-15-2006, 06:11 PM
lol! that's a great story rebecca. :)
i'm glad you're seein' my personality in the evolutionary creatures. i guess when i'm connected to my work, the creatures get imbued with eau de dave. hah!

re: book - i'm on board still! - just gotta wrap up a few projects and then i'll be writing to you to get the 411 on what you need from lil ole me.

here's the revised sea scorpion....then on to the next chapter!

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_Eurypterus.jpg

cheers!
d

ps. i'll be posting some quick figure studies today (1, 2 and 5 min poses). :)

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Hey Dave,

Awesomeness! Looking forward to hearing from you. :)

This latest version looks fantastic ~ did you adjust the levels a bit? He looks a bit darker / more contrasty, which is nice. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-15-2006, 09:26 PM
here's a tree/fern for the next chapter (about 1.5 hrs including research):
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_Archaeopteris.jpg

and a zoom:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_Archaeopteris_zoom.jpg

cheers!
d

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 09:37 PM
Nice work Dave! :)

Wow, you're super fast! The thing I notice just a bit is that some of your pieces are starting to look a little hurried ~ I'm sure you're working against a tight deadline, but is there any way to give just a bit more polish to a select few of the pieces? I felt the previous set was definitely looking more finished, but I could be wrong. Just a minor thought!

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-15-2006, 10:34 PM
Hey Rebecca!
Thanks! If you have time, pick out the ones that look rushed and I'll put them in my 'to polish' list. I'm hurrying for a few reasons - budget and time. But I do want to tweak them as I progress if I have the time. I know I won't have the $, but I can tweak these during breaks or lunch. :)
Cheers!

----
Here's some 1 min. quick studies from last Saturday's figure drawing session. I'll have to scan the 2 and 5 minute studies later. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_figs_1s_00.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_figs_1s_01.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_figs_1s_02.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_figs_1s_03.jpg
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051506_figs_1s_04.jpg

cheers!
d

demented
05-15-2006, 11:00 PM
wow man

I'm constantly amazed by the amount of talent and skill here. really intimidates me - and inspires. Like your illustrations of marine life, but absolutely love your 1 minute figure studies. You've managed to do in one minute what Iwon't be able to in a lifetime - well, not yet! Really inspiring - MUST keep posting.

thanks for sharing!

- d.

redehlert
05-15-2006, 11:09 PM
lol! thanks man! i'll get them framed and add the pricetags, m8!

the key that i have found to do the quick studies is three fold: practice, education and breath. practice is the repitition that gets you used to seeing form, line and tone. education is reading artistic anatomy books and learning all you can. breath is most important because without deep and steady breathing, the urge to hold it or take shallow breaths affects the ability for the mind to translate what it is registering to the hand. i find that with a deep, relaxed breath, i am able to enjoy the moment so much better.

thanks much for poppin' in here!
cheers,
dave

redehlert
05-17-2006, 12:10 AM
here's something i worked on today for a medical legal case on an abdominal aortic aneurysm (shown it section with the front of the vessel wall off) - it will be in color for final, but there isn't any point in going that full distance when changes will likely occur. this is about 6 hours start to this point. it isn't done. :(

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051606_aneursym.jpg

cheers!
d

paperclip
05-17-2006, 12:19 AM
Woo, cool! What did you use as ref?

Rebeccak
05-17-2006, 12:25 AM
Looks yummy Dave! What's for dessert? :D

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
05-17-2006, 04:37 AM
Hiya Paperclip! Thanks! I use refs from my library. Various atlases of both photographic and illustrative representation and some excellent early to mid 20th century pathology books. If need be, I google for photos as refs. Most importantly on this project, I'm referencing Axial CT scans to determine dimensions of the vessels, et al. :) Kinda techie, but it's cool too.

Hmmmm....for dessert I will serve up some more figure drawings or evolutionary creatures. :) Thanks for poppin' back in here, RK!

Cheers!
d

redehlert
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
here's an insect - kinda like a silverfish. about 2 hours with research included. it's not in a dynamic pose....i'm going to try and do that for the two amphibians i'm doing next. :) the timeline for completing all of the creatures got ramped up, so my time for each piece is dwindlin'.

cheers!
d

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051706_Nesomachils.jpg

Rebeccak
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Beautiful, Dave! You continue to amaze. I'll be getting back to you shortly. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

redehlert
05-17-2006, 11:19 PM
thanks rebecca! hope i can keep the steam on. :)

on to the amphibians!

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051706_Acanthostega.jpg

Corvax
05-17-2006, 11:22 PM
grate stuff.. that last one made smile.:thumbsup:

redehlert
05-18-2006, 01:34 AM
happy to make ya smile, m8!

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051706_Tiktaalik.jpg

if it looks like i just flipped the previous drawing and tweaked it to have the scales and other modifications, then you're 100% correct. :) why waste the time reinventing the entire body, eh? :)

Monster_General
05-18-2006, 09:04 AM
WOW , to last one :eek: Amazing details and impressive shading , just keep up dude :love:

redehlert
05-18-2006, 04:19 PM
Thanks M_G! I appreciate your stoppin' in here and the vote of support. :)

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
05-19-2006, 01:36 AM
I was wrapped up in several other projects today. I got this one done and conferred with my client if the critter should have scales or fur or both. I'm leaving it up to him to choose. :)

scales:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051806_Diictodon_scales.jpg

fur:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051806_Diictodon_fur.jpg

BTW, this little fella was a burrower like the modern day gopher. Pretty small too.

Cheers!
D

redehlert
05-23-2006, 08:25 AM
i know...it's not evolution or a demon hackin' gumby to shreds, but it's my work and i share. ;)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052306_AAA1.jpg

peace.
d

jmBoekestein
05-23-2006, 03:03 PM
Great stuff in here, nice to see someone else working in greyscale as well. Never thought I'd see dino's again.

redehlert
05-23-2006, 04:57 PM
an update and two new ones - the last one i have some things to tweak and get into better perspective. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/051906_Diictodon_fur.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052206_Gorgonopsian.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052206_Dimetrodon.jpg

redehlert
05-23-2006, 05:05 PM
hey jmBoekestein - no dinos as of yet.....but soon. :)
glad you like the grayscale. wish i could do these in color, but for now, it stays as such. thank you for stoppin' in!
cheers,
dave

redehlert
05-23-2006, 10:28 PM
Updated (I know it's probably still not 'right' but hopefully it's enough. :(
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052306_Dimetrodon.jpg

New:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052306_Spiny_Nautiloid.jpg

Cheers,
D

DoctorBone
05-24-2006, 12:13 AM
Got some incredible works here

Rebeccak
05-24-2006, 12:17 AM
Holy crap, amazing!!!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

se7en-z3r0
05-24-2006, 02:47 AM
Rebecca I have asked you again and again... please do NOT use the word "crap" : ) I just can't take the filth ; )

Red - that last creature is absolutely amazing! I am still ROFL'ing about the gumby comment earlier on in the thread. Excellent stuff. Rock on.

Rist
05-24-2006, 04:57 PM
Some really fantastic works here David! I especially like the organ studies as they give something new to these types of forums and a refresher from muscles/bones and naked men/woman.

redehlert
05-26-2006, 07:17 PM
Many thanks for the support! I appreciate the comments and the smiles. :)

So...I'm finally in the Triassic Period. This image is based off of fossils (shell only) and one illustrative interpretation. Then I did tie ins with octs and cuttlefish photos. :)
I'll also be doing a Cymbospondlylus and a Coelurosaur. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052606_Ceratites.jpg

Rebeccak
05-26-2006, 07:59 PM
As usual, beautiful work, Dave. :)

Cheers,

~RK

redehlert
05-30-2006, 09:10 PM
Not much time to reply...but thanks for the support!

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/053006_Coelurosaur.jpg

Cheers!
D

redehlert
05-30-2006, 09:12 PM
And one more...
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052606_Cymbospondylus.jpg

Rebeccak
05-30-2006, 09:17 PM
That second one especially is looking sweet, Dave!

Cheers, :)

~RK

redehlert
05-30-2006, 11:37 PM
Thanks Rebecca. :)

Remixed this one. My client failed to tell me that this one is his specialty and that the shell does indeed coil in one plane, not like a snail shell (which was how the previous one was). He also told me that the suture lines are only visible if you go into the shell proper. Sheeeit. Why don't the specialists convey this stuff prior to finding the material (fossils) to work from. Ugh. ;)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/053006_Ceratites.jpg

bumskee
05-31-2006, 12:54 AM
hey Dave, great looking creatures.. fantastic work, amazed at the solid rendering. awsome with the textures. Have you tried colouring these in??? if you throw a layer on top on "color" you can easily put colours on them since you already have established a strong sense of form and surface. I think these will look awsome in colour.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/052306_Spiny_Nautiloid.jpg
that ones my favourite, i think you could throw some rather daring highlights on the shell, love the shadow casting on the back. sweeet work.

btw, did you have luck with those brushes?

looking great mate!

cheers,

Min

redehlert
05-31-2006, 10:38 PM
Hey Min!
Thanks a lot for the support. :)
The project calls for grayscale, but I'd love to colorize these...they'd be a snap with the tone already in place. I may give it a shot when time allows. I intend on going back into the lot of em and tweak them one last time to have tonal consistency throughout.

Haven't tried to download your brushes, but when I did try, it shows up on my screen in Safari as a bunch of code. :(

At any rate....thanks for stopping in!

Here's another....finally in the Jurassic period. Gotta do some backtrackin' for edits, but for now... :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/053106_Kosmoceras.jpg

Rebeccak
05-31-2006, 10:59 PM
That's just gorgeous, Dave! You seem to be getting better with each one of these! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~RK

redehlert
06-01-2006, 01:07 AM
Thanks Rebecca! Each one is a challenge and learning curve tester. :)

Here's one more, but I need to rework elements of it. Quittin' time tho, so I'll hit it in the am.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/053106_Liopleurodon.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

Lute
06-01-2006, 01:17 AM
ooooooh... i love the shading

redehlert
06-01-2006, 04:36 PM
Thanks Lute! Welcome to my sketch book. Many happy returns, I hope.
Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
06-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Okay...updates and one fun inversion take for fun (and to see if my client would like to go this route for the large versions as stand alone figures. Just toying with the idea for the moment. ;)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060106_Ceratites_Ammnd.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060106_Liopleurodon.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060106_Kosmoceras_invrt.jpg

Cheers,
Dave

edit - added a dragonfly:
...this one really kicked my ass.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060106_Meganeura.jpg

Rebeccak
06-02-2006, 01:17 AM
The inverted one really catches your eye, and frankly I didn't realize it was inverted (which is a good thing) ~ this stuff looks great together as a set! :)

Cheers,

~Rk

redehlert
06-05-2006, 04:25 PM
Thanks Rebecca!
Once I have them all done...roughly 4-6 to go, I'll be considering minor adjustments to presentation and overall tonal range (focus vs fade, etc).
Here's a new one that may have minor edits to the nostril positioning, but other than that, it's been approved. :)
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060206_Diplodocus.jpg

Also have a revision to the dragonfly, but won't post that until approval. :)

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
06-05-2006, 04:29 PM
Almost forgot about this one:
Here's a giant millipede that is still being worked on. From the Carboniferous Period. My client wanted some creature additions and repositioning, so this is kind of out of sequence. I need to give it compound eyes, but all refs state otherwise. So....this is still a wip for all intensive purposes.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060206_Arthropleura.jpg

lildragon
06-05-2006, 06:41 PM
Floored! absolutely floored with your work in this thread, you've inspired me even more! Love those renders


Cheers!

redehlert
06-06-2006, 12:22 AM
Thanks lildragon! Happy to inspire!

Here's an update...not a lot of time to work on this project today.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060506_Eutrephoceras.jpg

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060506_Eutrephoceras_alt.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

redehlert
06-06-2006, 06:37 PM
A minor update for the Cretaceous Period:
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060606_Hesperornis.jpg

redehlert
06-06-2006, 10:16 PM
And one more .... a bit rushed and not much info to go off of....sigh.
http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060606_Hadrocodium.jpg

This thing was about the size of a paper clip. Yep.

redehlert
06-07-2006, 01:22 AM
Here's a wip for this Cretaceous critter....not much data to go off of....oy vey.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060606_Chriacus_b.jpg

Lute
06-07-2006, 02:00 AM
it look like a mixture..of a hairy anteater/racconand armadillo :3
i like it ^_^

lildragon
06-07-2006, 02:53 AM
My goodness man, slow down, slow down! lol, awesome work, and I love the hair on the last lil guy :thumbsup:

Cheers!

redehlert
06-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Hey Lute, you're close! I was unable to find any fossils to wrk from (which is what I prefer to do...helps me learn the morphology better. The only findings I got from googlin' were two illustrations and one environment. That said, these fellas were arboreal and probably gave rise to raccoons, civets and lemurs. So, the body is similar to the illustrations I found, but I tried to tie them in to the future extant creatures mentioned above. ;) Glad you like!

Hey Lildragon. :) I can't slow down...I'm on a tight deadline. LOL. The hair is a lot of fun to do....learning quite a bit of technique stuff on this evolution series. :)

Ok! Here's Chriacus.
A quick question for those that view and want to give me their 2 cents worth:
Should I go back and give these creatures shadows or is it not a necessary attribute? This version has a shadow. Input is appreciated.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060706_Chriacus.jpg

Now I'm diving back in to previous creatures for edits. :)
Cheers!
D

lildragon
06-07-2006, 07:12 PM
A quick question for those that view and want to give me their 2 cents worth:
Should I go back and give these creatures shadows or is it not a necessary attribute?

Definitely add the shadows, it adds so much more dimension to the critters :)

redehlert
06-07-2006, 08:23 PM
Thanks for the input, Lildragon. I had to do a revision to this creature and opted to add the drop shadow here too. I think you're right...definitely gives more dimension. :)

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060706_Arthropleura.jpg

Womball
06-07-2006, 08:35 PM
Wow! Very accurate drawings! Do you have a very controlled line or are you very good at cleaning up with an eraser?

redehlert
06-07-2006, 09:29 PM
Thanks! Um...I get crazy with my line work and as I refine, I use the eraser tool and the smudge tool to push and pull things. Then, I usually go back in with the brush tool and crisp edges a bit. Sometimes, if I need to work really fast, I just create a vector shape layer that is fairly close to what I want the final shape to be, and then I have a toned layer on top of it that is masked to the shape below it. Does that makes sense? Again...thanks for the comment! As for accuracy....well...that's to be determined. I didn't have any specific specialist on board for this evolution series, so these are all 'artistic interpretations'....follow me? :)
Cheers,
Dave

Womball
06-07-2006, 09:47 PM
Oh these are not pencil drawings?

redehlert
06-07-2006, 10:06 PM
Nope....all of the evolution images are strictly photoshop, my friend. :)
From start to finish...no time for sketchin' - about 3 to 4 hours per creature.
Cheers!
D

redehlert
06-08-2006, 01:00 AM
This guy replaces an earlier dinosaur of similar make and model. :)
It's for the Triassic Period.

http://www.cognitionstudio.com/anatomy/060706_eoraptor.jpg

Cheers!
Dave

Andre Jackson
06-13-2006, 04:25 PM
Hi, excelent work. I'm especially impressed with the speed at which you produced the evolution drawings.


I had a somewhat unrelated question that Rebeccak suggested I ask here.

I was wondering if you had any advice to give to someone who was specifically looking for resources on the dermis. Every Anatomy book I've seen either ignores the subject entirely, or gives very slight attention, therefore leaving out what I would think is one of the most important factors in surface anatomy (at least for the artist), wrinkles and skin folds. A few books I have reference Karl Langer's work on the subject, but I've yet to see anything beyond brief mentions and single page charts.

I understand there is some debate about the accuracy of Langer's work, and looking at what I've found online, there are certainly a few bits that seem to contradict my own observations, so I'd especially love to be able to see the work of his critics as well.

If you have any recomendations, they would be most appreciated.


Original question: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3630358&postcount=9

redehlert
06-13-2006, 06:38 PM
Hey! Thanks for stoppin' in here and commenting on the work. As for your question on dermis and folds, I'm not sure I can provide you with any particular direction. There are books that discuss that folds occur perpendicular to the muscle that runs beneath it and you did mention Langer's Lines, but in addition to this, the alternate school of thought is Kraissl's lines. Look into this fellow and let me know if you have any difficulty finding details on him. I have a PDF from a client project on breast resection that used Kraissl's Lines. Happy to provide you with that. Email me at: dehlert@u.washington.edu for a direct push of the PDF if you need it.
The "Color Atlas of Histology" by Gartner and Hiatt has a good section on skin, but it's more of the makeup of the tissue rather than discussing folds. It's just a good ref that goes beyond gross anatomy. Welp....I hope that helps in some respect. Lastly, the only other thing I can think of is to get to a good medical library on a university or hospital campus and research away. Journals are great resources in addition to atlases and textbooks. I know atlases are expensive, but if the shoe fits....ya know....wear it. ;)

Good luck!
Dave

Andre Jackson
06-13-2006, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the reply. I had heard of Krassil's lines (and Borges) before, but I haven't seen much info on them aside from discussions advocating them (as opposed to Langer's). I will definately look into him, and your suggestion of finding a medical library.