CGTalk - still : audi allroad

tariel

11-21-2002, 04:54 PM

That's great model. Looks really good. Though i liked the image withput noise. The first one has to big noise.
No crit from me basically. ;)

Didi u render it in FinalRender ?

stephen2002

11-21-2002, 05:22 PM

the noise is much too heavy.

Also, something about the tires makes it look like a hotwheels car.

Dr BeN

11-21-2002, 06:35 PM

looks like a close up of a toy car to me ? but a very realistic one ;)

i think the tires are it that make me think of toy ?

Renzsu

11-21-2002, 06:36 PM

yes, I would try to fix those wheels...

LordShaitan

11-21-2002, 06:40 PM

Very good image. Noise adds a nice little touch but i would take it down a bit. The first thing that came into my mind when i saw the "hannibal" thing at the front was the nintendo logo. Of cuorse thats not what you wanted but thats the first thing t come to my mind. Im also wanting to see a real shadow minus the GI faked shadow. Great image though!

Toope

11-21-2002, 11:20 PM

i have to comment on those wheels too :hmm:
something about them doesn't look right... too fat and small? atleast the rims are too small... and maybe too shiny to fit the car?
otherwise the model looks pretty good

(B-HOLM)

11-21-2002, 11:30 PM

I think the problem with the wheels is that their to far out

renderdrunk

11-22-2002, 01:27 AM

i think the plasticy texture on the mags and too much dof mak it look like a small toy . fantastic modelling though :thumbsup:

facial

11-22-2002, 03:53 AM

Nice work, :beer:

viper11885

11-22-2002, 04:27 AM

yup, there is something definately wrong about the wheels :D.. just don't look right..

i also think that it would be better if u turned down the noise a bit.. seems to be a bit too high ;)

bored alien

11-22-2002, 05:02 AM

yup. wheels. And the material looks like a toy to me too. Hard to tell from this angle, but it looks like maybe the wheels couldn't turn without running into the car body. Really great modelling though. Like everyone said. Man I'm unoriginal. :hmm:

tkay

11-22-2002, 07:54 AM

I think the toyish outlook comes from the seams that seem a little too round and blown up. Otherwise a nice job!

hannibar

11-22-2002, 03:44 PM

Thanks for the comments.

tariel : It's rendered in Lightwave's renderer. I agree about the DOF. I will fix that in the next update.

stephen2002 and others : I just used a bumpmap for the wheels. Even with extremely high bump settings, It looks way to flat an weird. So I'll model some new tires for the next update.

LordShaitan : I already adjusted the hannibal materials a bit. You'll see the results later.

Gilgamesh

11-22-2002, 04:26 PM

I think that the DOF partly has something to do with it looking like a toy.

hannibar

11-23-2002, 12:34 PM

Here's an update.

I modelled the tires now instead of using a bumpmap, I lowered the DOF a bit, changed the number plate materials, and moved the wheels a bit more inside. Hope you like it. I also lowered the noise.

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/Audi4.jpg

or

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/audi.html

C & S are welcome

stephen2002

11-23-2002, 12:47 PM

still a bit heavy on the noise...and the headlights one can really tell are textured.

overall, nice modeling, good render

hannibar

11-23-2002, 03:17 PM

and the headlights one can really tell are textured.

Do you mean I just put a texture on a flat piece of mesh??
Not at all. I modelled the headlights, and gave them some nice materials. No image map is used.

By the way. Are the tires better now. I put quite some effort into modelling them and I'd like to know if they look good.

sabaman

11-23-2002, 08:12 PM

nothing for to add about the render, to me its perfect all i can say is that, those newer audis have like, very accurate lines and i think the mesh modeling (if im correct) is messing it up a bit

you really improved the tires but i think the rims could be slightly bigger, i could be wrong but thats just what they look like to me in real life,

overal great work man,.....

Darkelfv

11-25-2002, 08:01 AM

Great work. I like your update the tires look much better, I would say that the noise is distracting. If you took it off the car and just had it on the background, maybe that would help. Anyways better then i could ever do. Keep up the good work.

Daveaustin

11-25-2002, 09:26 AM

yeh looking good.. the tyres look more appropriate now.. good job

i've got to comment on the paint job.. i don't know if it's just the light, but it's got a very satin sheen to it, and i'm sure real cars don't have that, normally they're all pretty shiny with very crisp reflections, i'm sure if you changed this then the car would take on a whole new look :thumbsup:

just an example of the paint job.. i found in another thread
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29113&highlight=blasphemy3d

hannibar

11-25-2002, 08:39 PM

Here's another render. Added grass, added sky, made an interesting sepia effect.

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/audi5.jpg

or

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/audi2.html

hannibar

11-26-2002, 03:56 PM

I made a version with a shinier reflection. Result here.

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/audi6.jpg

or

http://users.pandora.be/willem.packet1/audi2.html
(second pic on that page)

sumpm1

11-26-2002, 07:46 PM

That is some seriously good modelling skills. I think making cars is a nice change, cause you don't have to deform them. Do me a favor and tell me how you did the headlights like that. Also, did you just use a bump map on teh tires?

Good work

cheers

hannibar

11-26-2002, 08:24 PM

The tires are modelled. In the earlier pics they were bumped, but that didn't lok very right, so I modelled them.

The headlights are very easy. I first made a glass cage to put on top of it. Then I made some sort of plane behind the glass, with holes modelled in it. For the texturing I used an enviroment map, and made it 75 % grayscale. Then I applied a bumpmap to distort the enviroment map a little more et voila...

KotsVlok

11-26-2002, 08:39 PM

Wooow....reallllly good work you've done here!!! :beer:

//But hey...loose the noise...or temper it more...i think it is ruining your beautiful still :rolleyes:

ToddD

11-27-2002, 01:45 AM

Looking pretty good! A couple of things though. First, I think the tires still don't look right, there needs to be more space between the tire and the wheel well. The audi rides a little higher than that, even at a low suspension height setting. My other 2 crits might be a U.S. model only thing so forgive me if I'm wrong. Here the wheel arches are a flat black urethane type stuff. Also, the roof is usually a flat charcoal grey type of paint. Looks very good, great job!!!:beer:

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