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plig
11-23-2005, 03:52 AM
hi thanks for taking a look. i haven't posted here much. it's not quite done yet but what do you think? comments please.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9719/lookingup23fg.jpg

ajay1589
11-24-2005, 04:54 AM
since comments r hard to find lately i decided to open this lonely thread

first off, the nose (especially the part that connects to the forehead) is too far from the face and the nose is pointed at an unnatural angle to the sky

the skintones looks nice(but a little gray/dark at the moment)

the top lip looks too small and the neck region is confusing at the moment(is that her shoulder?)

Vertrucio
11-24-2005, 08:05 AM
It looks like you didn't really try to block out the forms before painting this. I'm unsure if you were deliberately going for more cartoonish proportions or for a realistic painting.

Please don't say cartoony just to avoid critique, though.

It's basically way too flat of an image, despite the nice shading you have. The thing is, that shading doesn't seem to follow any realistic form, and instead is placed generally where you think a face might puff out.

The proportions are off too. The head is actually too small, remember, the eyes are placed directly in the middle of the head.

That bit of flesh towards the bottom I'm not sure what it is. Is it her breast, her shoulder, clavicle?

Go back and rough out each of the forms, it'll be difficult, it is for me, but doing so will help your paintings look more realistic in the long run. Although, the odds are it'll actually look worse at first, but it's better to do a poor painting and learn something in the process than to keep working on the same mediocre drawings and not improve at all.

audit
11-24-2005, 07:59 PM
hi

i definitely think you should keep working on this pic, it will be a great help to you.
Anatomy-wise, i'm unsure how stylised a look you're going for. Either way, I think you could improve the profile by working out the forehead area: above the eyebrow ridge it's going too far back too steeply, the bridge of the nose is very angular, as is the bottom of the chin and jawline, lending the face a rather manly appearance. I think the eye is too large, and at the moment isn't aligned with the other features (ie it appears too horizontally placed). She appears to be frowning (?), however the skin around the eyebrow is entirely smooth: this wouldn't be the case in reality - check your skin's reaction to frowning in the mirror. Also, as the others have said, the neck area is confusing.

Colour and shading-wise, once you have got the anatomy clear in your mind, rendering the form shouldn't be as difficult. Establish your light-source(s), then, as Vertrucio said, block in the forms first (w/ a hard-edged brush preferably), and do more subtle shading afterward. It always helps me to bear in mind that the face falls into three colour areas - forehead = yellow, mid-face = red, chin/jaw = blue. If you put in these vivid colours first, then blend fleshy tones into them, the effect will immediately be more believable. Also, don't load shadows with too much blue, especially around the nose - fleshy shadows tend to be redder, however this depends on your lighting colour as well as angle/direction/strength/saturation.

Hope this helps: keep going and checking references/mirror if possible! :)

plig
12-04-2005, 03:53 AM
this still isn't done but i did make a bunch of changes. thanks for all the suggestions they helped quite a bit. any comments on this one are welcome. thanks.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1342/lookingup64vb.jpg

plig
12-04-2005, 04:03 AM
oops i posted the same thing twice.

plig
12-06-2005, 08:38 PM
i made some changes to the face, and none to the hair yet. my main problem with the face is below the nose, mouth, and the chin. if anyone has any suggestions about anything please let me know. i think the new shape of the face helps alot.

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/554/lookingup62ls.jpg

Sarford
12-06-2005, 11:45 PM
Hey Plig,

Just a little trick I learned at art-school for drawing a quick skull.
With just a circle and a few lines u have the outline of a caucasian skull.
The stuff in the blue is how u can determine where the eyes, nose and mouth are.
The ears begin at the eyes and stop at the mouth.
I hope this helps, regards,

Simon

plig
12-07-2005, 03:36 AM
thought i'd add my newest changes. thanks for the tips. still haven't done any thing with the hair and now i think the shoulder is too big.



http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9552/lookingup85sa.jpg

Vertrucio
12-07-2005, 08:36 AM
The eyes are too far towards the back of the head and are still too high on the head. Remember, eyes are halfway between the top of the head and chin when looking from the front or side. People think the eyes are higher on the head because the brain focuses on the facial features, not the forhead and hair, so it clips off the top of the head. Take a look in the mirror and actually measure it using your hand or some solid measuring device.

The part of the torso you show still looks like an amorphous blob. Get some form in there, but in the clavicle, deltoid, trapezius, etc... Right now that's the big sore spot in the image.

The transition from nose to upper lip isn't clear enough, and I think the nose is a bit too large for that face size.

plig
01-08-2006, 02:55 AM
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8717/lookingup78cd.jpg

i finally came back to this after i saw how ugly the last post was. please tell me what you think, especially the coloring. thank you again for previous comments.

plig
01-10-2006, 04:39 AM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2922/lookingup88rj.jpg

did some more work, i think it's getting much better.

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