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Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Well said. Agreed! Mr. Mu it shall be! :)

Falcorr
11-24-2005, 06:03 PM
Nice to see The Ton . Lovely pose there and shadows... and Mr. Mu ! :thumbsup: Cool colors!

Its pretty hard to draw cool face on these pose arent it. It takes a lot of time and thinking and it should be done in 3 minutes or so.. crazy!

My 24th .. mark!

Last one of those dancers turned into drag queen :shrug: .. Oh why? Please explain why.

All of these are 15 minute sketches.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy019.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy020.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy021.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy022.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy023.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy024.jpg

Mu
11-24-2005, 06:17 PM
Falcor_ - Man, the baby's fist in the foreshortening pose is killer! the masses pop out and lighting is incredible.


I fell in love with your take on spectacular2D, esp. the progress and how it all evolved. Keep it up!

Falcorr
11-24-2005, 06:35 PM
Thanx Mr. Mu !! :beer:

Yeah most of the time i actually used up on the babys face after that i almost ran out of the time to draw the hand. I had blocked in the base shape, but after that i just did quick hiliting and shadows. After that i smudged it with hard edged smudge with 70% pressure.. It works like a dream..

Never would have thought smudge being so cool. Its ability to blend colors. Its ability to move color its ability to move color across painting and then smudging that passage way away so the color transfers to right place very fast.

About that spectacular entry. Thanx! weird progress. Huh thats what people keep telling me :arteest:

LadyMedusa
11-24-2005, 06:44 PM
Me join too :)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vrd/1.jpg

I see many great ones :)

Margie
11-24-2005, 06:59 PM
@ Rebecca & Queensoul: Thanks! :)
@ Lady Medusa: nice that you joined too.

OK, fun time!

The one on the left is oilpastel brush, the one on the right oil brushes

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/sketchathon12.jpg

SheepFactory
11-24-2005, 07:19 PM
6 minutes.

http://ali.cgcommunity.com/pose.JPG

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Need to do some post ~ Thanksgiving napping! :D Great sketches, everyone! :wip:

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 07:42 PM
http://aghs.virtualbrum.co.uk/stmarys/lorraine.jpg

http://www.lynchburg.edu/athletics/web%20photos/2003%20track/long%20jumper%20girl2.jpg

http://www.sudburysports.com/uploads/images/David_Thibert.jpg

http://web.venturacountystar.com/special/preps/031304/slide04.jpg
http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/portfolio/cyleow/image/bigimage/longjum.jpg

For selfish purposes...I need something to do! :D

Lonely Pixel
11-24-2005, 07:44 PM
Oh my, great stuff being posted again.


Here's the stuff I did today. Some are OK I think :shrug:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/lpixel/Anatomy%20sketch/07.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/lpixel/Anatomy%20sketch/06.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/lpixel/Anatomy%20sketch/05.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/lpixel/Anatomy%20sketch/04.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/lpixel/Anatomy%20sketch/03.jpg

Rebeccak
11-24-2005, 08:54 PM
Longer than 15 minutes, (about 35 I think?) done on me Laptop ~ small screens suck! :argh:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/new_2.jpg

Alice
11-24-2005, 09:34 PM
I wish it was the old olympics and that they where all naked, would be so much easier... :(

Margie
11-24-2005, 10:13 PM
I wish it was the old olympics and that they where all naked, would be so much easier... :(

Sorry, more yellow monk robes :sad::shrug:

Last one for tonite. 15 minutes .......errrrrrrmm...........for each layer.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/sketchathon13.jpg

TheTon
11-24-2005, 11:10 PM
hmmm... nice thought Alice, but think again... who would want to see the pics of the female shot-put team in full flow... eek! Imagine the beards! Nasty... :eek:

Art2
11-24-2005, 11:18 PM
I wish it was the old olympics and that they where all naked, would be so much easier... :(

Heheh, my favorite little devilgirl... :twisted:

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 12:27 AM
Butt ugly drawing...deleted. :D

scorpion007
11-25-2005, 12:42 AM
Here's some from the beginning from me :)
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8030/gestures16se.jpg

zhuzhu
11-25-2005, 01:57 AM
nice sketch everyone~~~!

marker and pen on paper:

http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuzhu/637.jpg

scorpion007
11-25-2005, 03:48 AM
Damn, zhuzhu, that looks amazing! You are truly skilled :thumbsup:

Here's another one I did (digitally this time) in PS in about 10 mins:
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4729/gestures33ez.jpg

SheepFactory
11-25-2005, 03:50 AM
Great stuff Zhu!

Ego
11-25-2005, 04:10 AM
I wish it was the old olympics and that they where all naked, would be so much easier... :(
Tsk tsk, then there'll be more flesh to render. *shiver
*waves at Alice
LonelyPixel those are great movement capture. I love them.

scorpion007
11-25-2005, 04:11 AM
And one more:

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/3076/gestures43xv.jpg

This time 13-14 mins, since I redrew it again, (cause I didnt like it the first time heh :))

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 04:35 AM
Arm study...exactly 15 minutes, charcoal on newsprint...not perfect, but at least not too s***** :) Sorry for the crappy photo, I'm no photographer...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_17.jpg

SheepFactory
11-25-2005, 04:51 AM
last one for the day.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=85220

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 05:12 AM
Ok, I can stand to post one of my unfinished craptastic digital pieces (I guess because I figure I can always finish it), but if I don't resolve a traditional piece, I'll throw it away...so spent 15 more minutes on this one...sorry to keep breaking the rules, Queenie...:D
It's great to see so many people on this thread!!! :bounce:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_18.jpg

scorpion007
11-25-2005, 05:40 AM
Whoa! This is definately your style Rebecca! Is this the arm study of the same athlete I drew? It looks excellent :)

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 05:48 AM
scorpion007,

Thanks!! :)

Yep, same female athlete...she has amazing muscles!!!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lonely Pixel
11-25-2005, 06:10 AM
LonelyPixel that

:o! what? Hehe.

Oh Rebecca those look well cool :D smooooth.

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 06:14 AM
Lonely Pixel,

Thanks!! :) I need to improve my digital though...that's what this thread is for, I guess! :bounce:

zhuzhu
11-25-2005, 07:57 AM
thanks all~~~!

Rebeccak: really nice arm study~~~! amazing sketch here.

over 15 min sketch:


http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuzhu/638.jpg

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 07:58 AM
Thanks, zhuzhu! Great to see you back on the boards! :)

Great tonal drawing! Nice sense of movement...:thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
11-25-2005, 08:05 AM
Nice work zhuzhu!

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 08:30 AM
15 minutes, charcoal on newsprint (leg study):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_19.jpg

http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/portfolio/cyleow/image/bigimage/longjum.jpg

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 08:57 AM
Another 15 min.:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_20.jpg

Time for bed... :)

Ego
11-25-2005, 09:09 AM
Here are some additional poses for today.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/1125.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/1125b.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/1125a.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/pounce.jpg

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 09:10 AM
Only first piccie workie, Queenie. :) Nighty night! :)

Ego
11-25-2005, 09:20 AM
One of those girls from the same set.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/mix1.jpg

Ego
11-25-2005, 09:22 AM
Only first piccie workie, Queenie. :) Nighty night! :)
Fixed! Sleep tight Becca.

Goro
11-25-2005, 09:40 AM
Ms. K.... o_O

and great Zhu

EAD
11-25-2005, 02:44 PM
heres one, slightly inspired by a certain artist you may of heard of...initials RK (you know the one>> rolls around the floor a lot) :D... enjoy

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/3552/runner11as.jpg

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 02:50 PM
Goro,

Thanks!! :)

AOAH,

LOL!!! Hehehe...Robin King (http://www.mightycrusaders.net/rolypoly/rolypoly10_39_chimpy.jpg) is one of my favorite artists! :scream: Nice work!! :thumbsup:

Lonely Pixel
11-25-2005, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the compliment Queen :D

Rebecca, you surely have great skill that you put in those pencil dwarings there, my lord they look fingerlickin' good. Could you post the references (or did you already and did I oversee them?). Thanks :D.

Andyonahill, that one looks very realistic as if it were a photo taken out of focus. Lovely.

I'll have a few quick goes later today on the new refs.

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 03:21 PM
Lonely Pixel,

Thanks a lot!! :wip: I did post the refs, but I've focused in on features, so it may not be immediately obvious what's what ;) ~ the arm is from the female runner, and the leg from the Asian longjumper. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Falcorr
11-25-2005, 06:46 PM
Zhuzhu .. how long did it take you? :thumbsup:

Queensoul what do you think? is it easier or harder to do colored ones or sharp pencil lines?
Good work! Knowledge is speed :bounce:

Andyonahill: very good tones. How did you do them?

Just two of my sketches this time.. Each with slightly different aproach. Im feeling bit slow and tired so thats my excuse :D
Hope you guys like em!

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy025.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy026.jpg

Ego
11-25-2005, 06:50 PM
Hey Falcor, nice going on both styles. I guess the speed of each style depends on the artist. For me some poses are more realizable faster using traditional methods, other poses drive me straight into painter. All the sports ones I did, I kind of drew them with charcoal because am in bed sick. I have not uploaded any of them yet.


Either way, try each style at least once :) You guys so rock! :D

LadyMedusa
11-25-2005, 07:03 PM
http://www.home.no/medusamusic/2.jpg
Photoshop-15 min


second one :)
I think it went a little better this time

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 07:34 PM
Falcor_,

Nice! Like the color in the one, and the tones in the other! :thumbsup:

Lady M,

Great to see you here! I think that's quite a nice drawing you've got there ~ keep posting! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

EAD
11-25-2005, 08:05 PM
Lonley pixel>> Thanks for the praise, the bluriness is kind of what I was after, an attempt to make the runner more dynamic:thumbsup:

Falcor>>the tones are mostly done with a large soft brush with opacity (and sometimes stroke width) set to pen pressure:thumbsup:

RK>> you cant just leave me hanging like that, I neeeeeeeed to know what happens to chimpy next!!!

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 08:22 PM
RK>> you cant just leave me hanging like that, I neeeeeeeed to know what happens to chimpy next!!!
LMAO...I didn't even read the cartoon before I posted it :D ~ being a Google bot, you sometimes gimp on the details! :scream: ~ Mike swears I'm a Geordie! :scream: I don't even know what that is! :scream:

Goro
11-25-2005, 09:35 PM
great sketches guys!

Today I tried a sketching those poses with light....
It was fun! I hope you can guess which refs I used!

Who wants to see more of my light paintings and know how I do it, check this thread ^^
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=265489

20sec each.
http://www.area-56.de/pics/lightworks/lightworks_030.jpg

http://www.area-56.de/pics/lightworks/lightworks_031.jpg

http://www.area-56.de/pics/lightworks/lightworks_032.jpg

http://www.area-56.de/pics/lightworks/lightworks_033.jpg

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 10:42 PM
Schhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwweeet Goro!!! :bounce:That's sooo cool!!! :thumbsup: *tries with candle* *burns herself* :scream: Keep it up! :bounce:

EAD
11-25-2005, 11:13 PM
:cool:Goro>> great stuff, I like the last one especially, quite an evil look on its face, always nice to see a different approach, a big thumbs up from me. I've tried this myself in the past but my digi only has an 8 sec exposure:banghead: so my results where a bit primitive.

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 11:30 PM
15 minutes, charcoal / newsprint...going to try another 15 min. on this one I think...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_21A.jpg

Reference image:
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/1125a.jpg

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 12:18 AM
15 more minutes...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_22.jpg

Reference image:
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/1125a.jpg

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 01:04 AM
Couldn't resist spending 15 more minutes on this...I'm calling it 'done' now. :) It does help, though, to time oneself and take breaks every 15 minutes...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_24_small.jpg

Ego
11-26-2005, 02:34 AM
woaaaaaah Becca. Sweet stuff. Grr I hate being sick.

Goro, nice spooky style. Am gonna go read up on how you did that.

RO
11-26-2005, 03:11 AM
17 min. I tried to make it in 15

Nice drawings Reb!

Love those light drawings lol :D

http://onlinewarriors.beyondunreal.com/RandomStuff/T1-5.jpg

Ego
11-26-2005, 03:19 AM
If you are just joining us, please try to also do some earlier sketches. They were quite fun to do.
Here are some new poses for your sketching pleasure.

http://www.dyestat.com/3us/4out/OlyTrials/album-vic-day56/images/Gerraughty_Laura%20wins%20shot%20put_JPG.jpg
http://www.ecolint-lgbpta.ch/Ecolint%20Ski%20HHC%202005%20%20Seefeld%20(Saturday)2005-03-12_0094.JPG
http://photo1.dukenews.duke.edu/pages/%20Sports%20Information/Track%20and%20Field/2000-2001%20Season/Action/Men's%201600-meter%20relay.hr.jpg
http://www.armorytrack.com/out05/DSC_0699.JPG
http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Bow,%20Clara/Bow,%20Clara%20(Rough%20House%20Rosie)_01.jpg

Have fun!

Gord-MacDonald
11-26-2005, 04:23 AM
I just discovered this thread - wow - great concept!

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov25_1.jpg


Gord

Gord-MacDonald
11-26-2005, 05:36 AM
15 min

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov25_2.jpg

Gord

Booyaka
11-26-2005, 05:52 AM
Hello ppl ;)
First attempt in Open Canvas 15min

http://rrrooar.free.fr/runner.jpg

Ego
11-26-2005, 06:23 AM
welcome Gord and booyaka! Nice sketches.

Here is the last one I tried. Charcoal on sketchbook.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/runnersmall.jpg

Ego
11-26-2005, 06:24 AM
Oh what a mess! But what can a girl do but to keep trying to improve.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/jumpersmall.jpg

Goro
11-26-2005, 09:56 AM
Rebecca thnx! And I told you not to play with candles! ^^ (amazing charcoal! btw why it's not blurry??? ^^v)

Andyonahill: thnx 8sec is tough. I have up to 30 sec and tried some more complex drawing...
but it's still really hard. I'll keep on trying...

Queenie: give it a try but don't use candles ^^

Gord: great sketches love to see your fast improvement

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 01:41 PM
Goro LOL! ^_^

Great to see everyone here! :)

Ok, I lied ~ I spent 15 more minutes on my last sketch, bringing the total to 45 minutes. You can see the 'finished' piece on my Anatomy Thread, last post:

(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2855537#post2855537) http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2855537#post2855537

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Falcorr
11-26-2005, 02:22 PM
Rebeccak: Nice sketches! Now if you could pull that detail all over the body within 15 minutes that would be tota crazyness :thumbsup:

Desp#2/Rog: Welcome! It actually takes a lot time to create the background so its cool if you can pull background with that character :)

Gord MacDonald: Welcome! I like that male sketch bit more. Hope to see more stuff from you :)

Queensoul: That jumper is better than the runner. So dont worry! Good stuff! :)

Goro: Nice idea with that light!

I suggest everybody to find new technique which will improve your workflow to maximum to get better quality in 15 minutes.

Heres more 15 minute thingies by me.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy027.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy028.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy029.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy030.jpg

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 02:25 PM
Oh, I love the first one, particularly the face! Bring on the Lucian Freud action! :thumbsup:

Notions2Motion
11-26-2005, 04:34 PM
Yeah, that first one is great Falcor. Hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving. I'm going to try to post one later today.

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 04:42 PM
RoboMonkeyModule,

Sweet! Look forward to it. :)

Ok, I've lied again...I spent another 15 minutes on that last pose, bringing my grand total to 60 minutes. :D You can see the final final on my Anatomy Thread, last post (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=292483&page=6&pp=15). :)

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=292483&page=6&pp=15

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 06:09 PM
15 minutes...not crazy about this one so far ~ I photoshopped out the bits I didn't like in the CU:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_27_CU.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_27.jpg

Reference Image ~ from the dude on the left (http://photo1.dukenews.duke.edu/pages/%20Sports%20Information/Track%20and%20Field/2000-2001%20Season/Action/Men%27s%201600-meter%20relay.hr.jpg)

LadyMedusa
11-26-2005, 06:57 PM
http://www.home.no/medusamusic/3.jpg
Photoshop, 15 min
Didn't go that well this time :/...

Rebecca, I love your anatomy drawings.

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 08:35 PM
Nice one, LM! :) Thanks a lot for your compliment!! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

TheDagger
11-26-2005, 09:49 PM
Rebecca, those sketches look amazing. Makes me want to try to do something in traditional media. Although I'm pretty much all CG guy, even drawing a stick figure without Wacom sounds difficult. :P

I downloaded ArtRage and tested it a little. Seems like a nice program for sketching.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dagger/quick/15min2.jpg

ArtRage, 15 minutes

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 10:18 PM
@TheDagger,

Nice sketch!! Thanks!! I definitely recommend trying out traditional media ~ I think it makes digital media easier. There are advantages / disadvantages to both ~ best to work with both simultaneously. :)

Spent 15 more minutes on this one ~ am happier with it now...I promise, after this one, I'll just put longer poses on my Anatomy Thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=292483) only...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_28.jpg

jFeige
11-26-2005, 10:29 PM
Rebeccak
I love your anatomy drawings. Especially those rendered in charcoal :)

---

First time posting :blush:

http://www.blank-grafix.de/cgt/1.jpg

audit
11-26-2005, 10:40 PM
Oo, I'm pretty late finding this nice thread, aren't I? I thought I needed to actually start doing something about my (lack of) knowledge of anatomy ...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure1.jpg

As you can see, I cheated and missed off 3/4 of the limbs. In my defence 15mins is a tough limit!

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 10:48 PM
Welcome aboard, audit! Great to see your sketch! This is definitely a fun thread, so I'm glad you've found it. I thought I had posted an announcement on the WIP main forum, but I just ran a search, and realized I'd forgotten to ~ so one has just been posted ~ I hope more folks join in! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Gord-MacDonald
11-26-2005, 10:59 PM
Queensoul, Falcor_ - thanks for the welcome
Goro - thanks for the encouragement

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov26_1.jpg



quick post-mortem:
(um - I think I killed it even more )

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov26_1_postmortem.jpg

Gord

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 11:12 PM
Gord,

I definitely like that first piece! For the second one, why not try filling the whole canvas (in PS, I assume?) with 75% black / dark gray, and using a soft round eraser set to Airbrush and at 50% opacity / 50% flow, and erasing out the lights? This is really similar to erasing out lights in oil paint using a rag ~ highly effective, IMO, in achieving a good value study quickly.

Good to have you aboard! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

audit
11-26-2005, 11:15 PM
rebeccak...thanks! (such a speedy response, but your reputation precedes you :D)

this is hard...there are so many things I notice about the ref which I have no time to put in :argh:

anudder:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure2.jpg

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 11:19 PM
audit,

Hehe, nice! :D I'm going to try a digital one, either tonight or tomorrow. Though it's taken me a long time to get up to speed traditionally, I need to focus on digital more. Great to see this piece! I think the point is to capture the essence, which you've done nicely! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

audit
11-26-2005, 11:26 PM
rebeccak, thanks for your comment...'essence' is a good way of putting it (i.e. i couldn't be bothered with drawing roller blades or anything :D). The whole timing idea is great - however it can be a bit distracting if you've spent 10 minutes deciding the b/g colour! haha.

I'm trying to bring out the effect of light, especially on the musculature, which i find so fascinating about the human body...more work needed! :arteest:
-audit

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 11:30 PM
audit,

Just checked out your WIP thread ~ WOW! Amazing work!! :applause: Ever done anatomy studies? I would recommend to anyone interested in studying the body doing a combination of master copies and studies from anatomical drawings / plates / books. I agree with you, the play of light over a figure is fascinating! You should also check out our Open Figure Drawing Workshops, which are linked here:

Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within] (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)
See Post #3

A new OFDW starts Monday! :) Anyone is welcome to join ~ each OFDW runs for 2 weeks, but remain open indefinitely. We are currently on OFDW 007. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=293798)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

audit
11-26-2005, 11:35 PM
rebeccak - hehe, thanks you're making me blush...also cheers for all the tips - I have so very little artistic experience it's quite embarassing, since I really study music. But I have been to one or two life drawing classes; a start, I suppose. I tell you, this site is a brilliant 'remote classroom' for me and you're contribution is fantastic!
thanks!

-audit

Rebeccak
11-26-2005, 11:38 PM
audit,

Thanks! :) Hmm, cool, a multi~talented person! Glad to have you on the boards! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Gord-MacDonald
11-26-2005, 11:55 PM
Gord,

I definitely like that first piece! For the second one, why not try filling the whole canvas (in PS, I assume?) with 75% black / dark gray, and using a soft round eraser set to Airbrush and at 50% opacity / 50% flow, and erasing out the lights? This is really similar to erasing out lights in oil paint using a rag ~ highly effective, IMO, in achieving a good value study quickly.

Good to have you aboard! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Hi Rebecca

Thanks for the input! I am going to do some digital studies and traditional.

Gord

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 12:07 AM
@Gord,
No prob! You should definitely get out of the Sketchathon what you need most! :wip:

@Queensoul,

When you post images, would you mind identifying them with text that is easily searchable / unique? Since you have created such a popular thread, it is a bit hard to find the posted images. Maybe identify every new set with "New Sketchathon Reference" or something? Thanks sweetie!! :wip:

Exactly 15 minutes...PS:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_29.jpg

From this Reference image (http://photo1.dukenews.duke.edu/pages/%20Sports%20Information/Track%20and%20Field/2000-2001%20Season/Action/Men%27s%201600-meter%20relay.hr.jpg)

Gord-MacDonald
11-27-2005, 03:11 AM
I really messed up the 15 minute drawing for this pose, so I scribbled out a 3-4 minute drawing

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov26_2.jpg

Gord

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 03:27 AM
@Gord,

Hey, I know the feeling! I've consigned more drawings to the real or digital dustbin than you can shake a stick at! :D Hmm, maybe you might try varying line width? Just a suggestion. :)

Well, I spent 15 more min. on this one ~ not really happy w/ it so far, but I might be able to tweak it a bit...so far, he's looking a lil' Richard Simmons...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_29A.jpg

Notions2Motion
11-27-2005, 03:46 AM
Here goes:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/15min_fencer.jpg

I think I'll try going through the Open Drawing Sessions pretty soon.

Rebecca - are your paper sketches generally in charcoal or just really loose pencil? I want to be able to work in softer leads, but most of my practice has been with HB or cheap #2 leads. I get out the B leads and unless I'm doing a subject I'm really familiar and comfortable with I get kinda nervous and things get messy and darker than I want. Ultimately I want to be able to really get a lot of variation in my lines.

As far as line quality goes, I love what I see in Alphonse Mucha's sketches, and on a different tack, John Nevarez's sketches http://john-nevarez.blogspot.com/ .

When I do one of these 15 minute sketches I seem to be so focused on getting my lines right that the line quality is going out the window. Hm. I'm always overanalyzing my work. Sometimes it's hard to know what the first priority to practice ought to be.

Gord-MacDonald
11-27-2005, 03:48 AM
thanks Rebecca - good point

13 minutes

http://cg2020.com/111_15minuteSketchathon/2005nov26_3.jpg

Gord

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 04:28 AM
@RoboMonkeyModule,

Rebecca - are your paper sketches generally in charcoal or just really loose pencil? I want to be able to work in softer leads, but most of my practice has been with HB or cheap #2 leads. I get out the B leads and unless I'm doing a subject I'm really familiar and comfortable with I get kinda nervous and things get messy and darker than I want. Ultimately I want to be able to really get a lot of variation in my lines.

In the Life Drawing thread, I posted the materials I typically use (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2697744&postcount=96) to do traditional drawings. Typically I use 6B soft Charcoal's pencils. I also love Carb Othello pencils, but they're more expensive, and sometimes hard to find in stores.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2697744&postcount=96


As far as line quality goes, I love what I see in Alphonse Mucha's sketches, and on a different tack, John Nevarez's sketches http://john-nevarez.blogspot.com/.
Nice link, thanks! I think Nevarez (hadn't heard of him) is using a softer pencil, but don't know what kind. He's definitely using the side/edge of the pencil, and varying the line width nicely to get variation between thick/thin lines. To get to his level takes years of practice ~ don't be fooled by the ease with which these appear to be drawn. It's easy for him after years of practice. ;)

The key with looking at the work of these artists/animators who draw in a Disney style is that they trained doing realistic drawing. Don't be fooled ~ these guys can draw realistically as well as in a cartoon~like fashion. Don't imitate cartoons ~ you won't learn nearly so much as you will from learning from copying from Life and from Master Drawings by the great masters. Then you can learn to interpret the things you pick up into a more cartoon~like style. The mistake people make is to copy the end result of peoples' cartoon~style / manga work etc. ~ it's not the best road to take by any means, imo. You can't learn anatomy from a manga drawing, nor from a Disney~style cartoon. You can only learn anatomy from drawing from the figure, from Reference, and from Master Drawings. At least, that's what I believe. ;)

If you are interested in a sort of hybrid approach, check out the work/books of Glen Vilppu: Vilppu Drawing Manual. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1892053039/002-6733442-6091234?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance) He's taught artists and animators for years, and has a classical approach to Disney~like drawing. He's trained literally generations.


When I do one of these 15 minute sketches I seem to be so focused on getting my lines right that the line quality is going out the window. Hm. I'm always overanalyzing my work. Sometimes it's hard to know what the first priority to practice ought to be.
It takes time to find a balance, and hundreds of drawings. Keep at it! Consistent practice, and mileage is key. Do these everyday, and you'll get better.

@Gord,

No prob! :)

~After 30 more min. ~ not really happy with the way it's turning out / direction, but I can't let go! :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_29C.jpg

RO
11-27-2005, 06:25 AM
Lately I have learned more from practice than huge amounts of works that take months on end to do.

Reb is right about practice. At least draw something each day… I use to be pretty uptight on presentation but you have to let go of that and just try something. You will not learn if your always trying to make the next big work for your portfolio. Well sometimes you learn quite a bit from long works… But it is good to balance it with some big long works and a lot of little works in between big projects. And sometimes I find some of my fast works are loads better than the fully rendered projects... which is funny lol but happens a lot to many people.

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 07:01 AM
Great advice, Despy. :)

Gah!! I have to admit, I've totally lost track of how much time I've spent on this one. I hate it less now, though the image knows it's kicked my a** and is now snickering at me. :rolleyes: Ah well...c'est la vie. :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_29D.jpg

Ego
11-27-2005, 07:42 AM
Here are some new 15 minute Sketchathon References. Theme today: The Art of Grace, contd.
http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/4seasons_yol_kag.jpg

http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/new8.jpg


http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/new3.jpg

Ego
11-27-2005, 07:47 AM
15 minute sketchathon :
Theme: The Art of grace

http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/sollopa_yol.jpg


http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/F1010001.jpg
Just the couple in front

Ego
11-27-2005, 07:50 AM
New 15 minute Sketchathon poses: The art of grace, contd.
http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~chrisnash/images/dance/soap.jpg

Ego
11-27-2005, 07:52 AM
Last one for now :D
http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~chrisnash/images/dance/ella.jpg

Ego
11-27-2005, 07:55 AM
Sorry, that was'nt quite the last one. But these ought to hold you guys for a few 15 minutes sessions. I'll be back thereafter with another theme.


http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/new4.jpg
3 poses. You can do them as 3 15 minute sessions.
have fun!

fredlovebot
11-27-2005, 09:28 AM
Starting the day with a small sketch. Nothing thats anywhere near the level of anyone else in here, but i guess practice makes perfect ^^

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2505/soapie0xw.jpg

Kencho
11-27-2005, 09:50 AM
Here goes one from me :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kencho/15MinSketch01.jpg
Critiques and advices are more than welcome ^^

audit
11-27-2005, 10:45 AM
hi, these new poses are tricky!

couple from me:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure3.jpg

As you can see, did my own critique :surprised ...had trouble with this one.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure4.jpg

jmBoekestein
11-27-2005, 01:14 PM
out of practice, playing games and stuff :rolleyes:, oh yeah, took too long too. about thirty minutes heh. :blush:

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/1637/sketchathon9io.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 01:28 PM
@Queensoul,

Great poses, thanks for titling them, too! :thumbsup: :)

@gorgnut,

No worries, great to see your sketch! I think you did a nice job!!

@Kencho,

Nice, particularly the linework!

@audit,

Really nice colors, and that first one especially really captures a mood. :thumbsup:

@jmBoekestein,

Tsktsk! :D J/K, good to see your work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Kencho
11-27-2005, 01:40 PM
Rebecca, thanks for your kind comment :) I didn0t had the time to remove some lines, and once uploaded and posted, I noticed that the proportions of the right limbs are really wrong (too short, too thin...) :P But at least I improved a bit since the last time I tried ;P

Margie
11-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Great sketches everyone!

A few from the references posted a few days ago. The one with the two shaolin monks rook a little longer than 15 minutes.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/sketchathon14.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/sketchathon15.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 02:00 PM
@Kencho,

No problem! Yeppers, the purpose of the 15 Min Skethcathon is definitely to do as many drawings as possible on a fast track to improvement! :thumbsup:

@Margie,

Nice! I really like the conte feel ~ I think if you elongated the limbs a bit, these would have an even nicer flow to them ~ I like that second one in particular! Hmm, will definitely try to do a few more later today or tonight. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

audit
11-27-2005, 02:14 PM
Rebeccak - thanks alot!

found this one a few pages back, i like it...:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure5.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 02:32 PM
audit,

Is this yours, or someone else's? :)

Cheers,

~Rk

audit
11-27-2005, 02:37 PM
sorry... it's mine :)

i meant i found the photo...

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 02:44 PM
Gotcha! I thought it looked like your style. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Falcorr
11-27-2005, 02:55 PM
gorgnut: youre right about the practise :) This is very good method of practising.

Kencho: Great sketch! Only that arm touching the ground looks bit shorter, but do post more! :thumbsup:

jmBoekestein: Good tones! Next time pull it into 15 minutes :thumbsup:

Margie: More the merrier :)

audit: Hi quality stuff! Great colors and all.


Here some i did today.. 15 minutes each. It really feels like im learning! Also im feeling that damn burn in my right arm. And my pec muscles are sore! Now this is what i call drawing :wise:



http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy031.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy032.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy033.jpg

audit
11-27-2005, 03:08 PM
hi again...ugh, maybe i should have gone outside today... :scream:

rebeccak - hm, glad that's sorted!! maybe i should try a new style, just to keep everyone guessing!

falcor - thanks, i could say the same about yours :)

15 mins work - doesn't do the ref justice, but hey...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure6.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 03:15 PM
Great stuff guys!!

Falcor_,

Sweet!! I'm thrilled to hear this is really helping! I feel the same way for me, for sure!

audit,

LOL ~ I'm...trying...so...hard...to do...chores...:scream: ~ great stuff!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

EAD
11-27-2005, 04:11 PM
nice work everyone. Here's my latest>> :thumbsup:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3454/orangeguy9sr.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 04:20 PM
Sweet, AOAH!

You know, I think you might quite like this book:

"High-Focus Drawing - A Revolutionary Approach to Drawing the Figure", by James McMullan - Overlook Press, publisher (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879515368/002-6733442-6091234?v=glance&n=283155)

I had a teacher who was a former student of McMullan's, and his approach was great! Really makes you think about capturing the essence of the figure using just fast, opposing curves. I don't actually have this book, but the teacher I had really gave us a great sense of McMullan's principles. :)

I did this drawing (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Rebecca%20Kimmel/0018.jpg) in a Workshop while taking Jeff Smith's class ~ Smith was a student of McMullan's at SVA (School of Visual Arts) in New York.

The link is to the US version of Amazon.com, but I'm sure you can find it in the UK.

This book is linked here also:

Anatomy Resources : BOOKS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257424&page=1)

Cheers,

~Rk

audit
11-27-2005, 04:27 PM
I finished off that ballet dancer - to the extent that she now has a whole body, but no face :/

-the result of an extra hour, better in some ways...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure6b.jpg
btw cool sketch Andyonahill - love the interplay between the two sets of lines

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 04:33 PM
@audit,

Great sense of tension in the leg muscles! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rk

EAD
11-27-2005, 04:34 PM
cheers Rebecca, sounds good. I'm struggling to see any of it on the web though, havent even found a pic of the front cover yet. I googled it and all that came up was "rebecca kimmels anatomy reference book thread"!.

I know... I'll persuade Mike R to buy it and then 'borrow' it off him for a few years. muaaahhaaha :beer:

Falcorr
11-27-2005, 04:39 PM
Andyonahill: cool pic!. Is that redline light and darker one for shadows?

Here is a test i did. Both 15 minutes.. Other one is done with my left arm and other with my right arm.

I think that my left arm sketch actually captured the relations better. Also the time frame looks better.

No wonder i usually start my paintings with left arm and fix it with my right one :curious:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy034.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy035.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 04:39 PM
@Falcor_,

Nice sketch quality lines!! :thumbsup:

@AOAH,

http://www.jamesmcmullan.com/frameset_books.htm

It's the top right book.

James McMullan's homepage / books ~ don't know why Amazon won't show the book cover ~ cheap bums! :scream:

LOL ~ it's an endless loop!

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 06:54 PM
@JFeige,

Totally missed seeing your post back there! Beautiful work ~ glad to have you aboard!
:thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Kencho
11-27-2005, 08:32 PM
Wonderful sketches everybody! Here goes another one from me (yes, I know about the head of the right guy -sorry)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kencho/15MinSketch02.jpg

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 09:08 PM
Hey Kencho,

The body / figure on the left is particularly good! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Kencho
11-27-2005, 09:37 PM
Thanks a lot Rebecca. The right one is kinda horrible :D but you know what? I forgot to add the left person's left arm! LOL (I'm ahsamed, hahaha)

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 09:41 PM
LOL! It's okay, the guy's got a lot of hair! :D

Cheers, ^_^

~Rebeccak

bumskee
11-27-2005, 10:02 PM
Ooo this thread is gold. :) Beautiful sketches everyone.. I have to jump on this band wagon.

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 10:04 PM
bumskee,
Just saw your awesome thread in WIP!!! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=297424) Great to have you on board, lead the way!!! :bounce:
You may turn me into a digital painter yet! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
11-27-2005, 11:44 PM
Well, this sorta sucks but it's a true 15 minutes...:D...may spend some more time on it later. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_30_small.jpg

From Ref:

http://www.ballettheatreafrikan.co.za/objects/new3.jpg

Notions2Motion
11-27-2005, 11:57 PM
Yo - here are my latest attempts!

Rebecca - thanks for the helpful advice and working so hard on this forum. I'd really love to be able to teach some day as well as work on my own creative pursuits. In the meantime, I'm keeping that pencil moving. I think you had a good suggestion to try working on the same image with different time frames. So I did one sketch that took around 2 minutes, one that ended up around 7 and another that was about 15 min. This is making me think about my approach and what I should try to/can achieve in different time frames.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/2min_climb.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/7min_climb.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/15min_climb.jpg

Ended up with some beefy arms on that last one. Hm.

Fixed the links!

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 12:05 AM
RMM,
Thanks!! The Anat forum is nothing but fun, so need for thanks. You guys rock!! :beer:

I LOVE the 2 minute drawing! That one rocks ~ I think it proves how critical it is to do fast drawings in order to learn how to draw. It's great to see you break it down like this! Oh, would you mind posting the image links into the image icon so that people don't have to click the links? :) Thanks! :)

It's cool to hear that you want to teach! I've wanted to teach drawing since college. I missed the boat on an opportunity to teach in the Saturday High program at Art Center (dumb mistake, oh well) but maybe one day I'll be back there. ;)

Keep up the good work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 01:02 AM
Everyone,

I thought I would try something new here where I post the same images here in this thread that are being used for the most recent Open Figure Drawing Workshop 008 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2859219#post2859219), which has just been posted!

The idea is to do 15 minute sketches for these here ~ and then, if you like your results on any or several of your pieces done from the following reference, to continue to refine your 15 minute sketches in the Open Figure Drawing Workshop 008 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2859219#post2859219), which runs for two weeks.

You do not have to continue to work in the OFDW 008, it is just an available option. :) Hope to see some great 15 minute sketches from these Reference photos, as well as some more refined pieces in the OFDW 008! :)

>>>WARNING: NUDITY!!<<<

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 1 ~ Female, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_01.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 2 ~ (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_02.jpg)Female, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_02.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 3 ~ Female, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_03.jpg)

MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 4 ~ Female, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_04.jpg)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 01:33 AM
Nevermind!!! Just post your images as is.

But WARNING: Nudity ahead! :)

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 04:45 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31.jpg


From this Reference (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_01.jpg)

storyForge
11-28-2005, 06:33 AM
beautiful... shame i didnt do her justice...

NUDITY

15 minutes (http://interface-media.biz/figure_drawing/figure25.jpg)

amishcommy
11-28-2005, 06:55 AM
what's up with this nudity posts of links instead of images? i can understand it for the ref but not for the sketches.

Kencho
11-28-2005, 07:11 AM
I do prefer the nudity warning and links, both for the refs and the sketches/drawings, so I can surf safely around here, as I use to have minors floating around in my house :P

Margie
11-28-2005, 08:07 AM
Another set of splendid poses from Hong Ly, great!
I think the nudity warning is a very good idea. I personally have no problems at all with it, but I do realize other people do or have kids in the same room. This has always made me a little hestitant to post frontal nude poses in an open forum.

EAD
11-28-2005, 09:34 AM
A big thumbs down from me>>

I really dont see the issue with posting nudes directly into the thread. I think the current format of having the initial photographs as links is absolutely fine. Anyone who takes part in the forum is likely to have the images on screen for extended periods of time anyway when they are working the pose!! I personally find it annoying and laborious to have to click on links to look at peoples work.

One of the great things about cgtalk is the fact that it is an imediately arresting visual forum. To have works linked is taking away from the core idea of the threads. I really dont want to have to look at a text based forum and the idea of every post endlessly repeating "warning, contains nudity" in an anatomy thread seems absurd.

How could a 15 minute sketch possibly cause any offense. After all, we are here to celebrate the human form not to shy away from it!!

zhuzhu
11-28-2005, 11:51 AM
over 15 min,sketch on paper with marker and fine piont.


http://usera.imagecave.com/zhuzhu/641.jpg

Margie
11-28-2005, 02:20 PM
@zhuzhu. Wow! That's really beautiful. Nice contrast between the two figures, really makes them stand out. :)

I tried several sketches of the second pose (really nice classic pose, reminds me of Titian) of Hong Ly's poses, most of them *craptastic*. This one lookd like the best to me. I added a teensy bit of space on the right, so that the rabatment would fall more toward the eye.

Warning: nudity

http://photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/?action=view&current=sketchathon16.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/c99/MdeBrie/?action=view&current=sketchathon16.jpg)

Mu
11-28-2005, 02:38 PM
zhuzhu - great, as always I might add. I think her right leg (the one that points to the left side of the pic) looks a bit overbent, though. I might be wrong... at least it's very probable:D

margie - i do like this sketch a lot. You established wonderful flowing forms in what seems an effortless attempt. I think it's good when things *look* as if they went by effortless. The shoulder her arm rests on seems somehow strange. Ah there you go - I can't even put my finger on it. I don't know what I'm thinking handing out advice to people who can wipe the floor with my sketches...but we're supposed to give feedback, aren't we?:deal::scream:

As concerns nudity: My personal view is much the same as AOAH's. I find it a bit tiresome. But as Kencho said he prefers it that way and as it is anyone's personal decision how he deals with the representation of nudity in connection with kids/household I'd say let's keep it like this to keep things simple for kencho.

Me, personally, I rather had problems with the not so nude pics of last OFDW, beautiful women all dressed funky or in lingerie.

The first time my girl-friend saw those pics she was like:"What kind of workshop is this you are attending?" and some other things I won't repeat:scream:

My daughter (4) just said: "Did you draw this?"
She spends a lot of time painting with artrage...

My sketch to follow soon...

audit
11-28-2005, 03:22 PM
hi,
nice going margie!
zhu - took me a while to find the reference (thread's getting large), but great linework. There are some differences in neg space such as between the dancers and i agree with Mr.Mu about the angle of the feet (both of their right feet). The man's could be angled higher and the woman's slightly lower, with more prominence of the outside curve.

Anyhow having said all that here's my ignorant effort from a much earlier ref, i know the proportions didn't work out, esp. revealing when comparing the levels of the hands and feet. Also that lighting, while atmospheric, obscured the form quite a lot. excuses :D

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure7.jpg

Margie
11-28-2005, 04:32 PM
The shoulder her arm rests on seems somehow strange. Ah there you go - I can't even put my finger on it. I don't know what I'm thinking handing out advice to people who can wipe the floor with my sketches...but we're supposed to give feedback, aren't we?:deal::scream:


Yes, you are right about the shoulder. It's somewhat exaggerated and I'm not quite sure of the shoulderline myself. If you extend the lines from the eyes, shoulders and waist forward on the ref, they form an interesting compositonal triangle, which should make it "work" better. Unfortunately, I found this out after I made the sketch, lol! Back to the drawingboard for me.

I appreciate constructive criticism very much and I don't think you need to be a master artist to see the flaws in a drawing. I can point out every single one of them in Michelangelo's sketches and studies. Don't ask me to draw like that though (maybe in a 100 years......practise, practise, practise)

Falcorr
11-28-2005, 05:49 PM
About this whole issue of naked bodies. Well lets just draw some panties and bra on them and show them up in this thread or hide them fully nude in some personal link.

Great work audit! :) Nice to see color versions. Its cool idea not to hide the form behind the actual lighting set you had. Try to differeant the lighting to get better understanding of forms.

Anyway. zhuzhu great work! Try to resist the urge to draw over 15 minutes. Since its of course a way to draw prettier picture. Just be brave and post it even if you lacked the time and it kinda sucked :thumbsup:

Like im doing right now. This is a good example *Sigh*

15 minute thingies... First two totally suck.. That clown monster female is horrible :sad:
I started them both without proper gesture lines.. so i think that gesture line is very very important to all of these steps.. Including color artwork.

Third one kinda looks ok :)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy036.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy037.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy038.jpg

Kencho
11-28-2005, 07:14 PM
Amazing work everybody! :applause: I feel like needing a lot of training (not only a feeling, but a fact :D)

And about nudity, please, don't do it that way just for me. It's the same everywhere, so I don't mind much to surf these forums the same way I can surf any other place, so don't worry. Anyways, I think the perfect solution would be to use thumbnails, but it's still annoying to click on them. Leave the big images if you feel more comfortable that way; don't change that just for me!

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 07:18 PM
Kencho,

Thank you for being accomodating to everyone. :) I realized that it is a bit ridiculous on an Anatomy Forum not to expect / be prepared to encounter nudity, so I think it's ok from now on for people to post their images / and not just links.

If you are surfing from work as I am, in the User CP (Control Panel) under Edit Options, you can uncheck the options for "Display Images" and you can surf that way. I change my Edit Options every morning at work. All you do is uncheck "Display Images", click save, and then I would try going to a safe area of the forum to make sure that indeed your images are not being displayed. When working properly, you will get image links instead of images as you surf.

Looking forward to seeing all the great work that has been posted today! I'm in Helen Keller mode right now, LOL! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
11-28-2005, 07:20 PM
lol Kencho,

hrng...the jury is asked to not mind what is said below this line....as it was posted before having read rebeccak's post:


sounds as if you were forever in our hands with debt if we kept the links...muahahaha:scream:

honestly, I doubt it's just for you - I just named you as an example. I noticed the officials are quite touchy about nudity warnings around the whole place, anyway.

So, Relax... our pleasure.

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 07:31 PM
Hehe, sorry for all the confusion, guys, but this is a democracy, you know! :scream: At any rate, let's start posting images again, shall we? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Notions2Motion
11-28-2005, 07:49 PM
Breaking it down like this is really helpful. I think I'm going to practice this general workflow for awhile and see where it takes me: Gesture, 2 mins or less, mostly lines. Establish form by shapes and major planes within 5 minutes. 2nd 5 min block - Take a couple to refine/check lines. Map values. Last 5 minutes - speedy rendering.

2 min:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/2min_dancer2.jpg

5 min:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/5min_dancer2.jpg

15 min:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/15min_dancer2.jpg

Mu
11-28-2005, 08:45 PM
At any rate, let's start posting images again, shall we?
wonderful idea

Robomonekymodule - this is looking good. Wish I could force me into a timeline like this without getting hectic. Guess I have to just "let go"

Here's mine (I actually set a stopwatch and then failed to hear the signal, lol, so somewhere between 15 and 20):
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4/mkayi/cg_ofdw_008.jpg

my loomis-driven gesture framework, forgot the ribcage (it shows in the end) and dropped the stage in between where I should have established a further understanding of the masses... should have a post-it with my schedule for this:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4/mkayi/cg_ofdw_008_progress1.jpg

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Snippy: :scream: wonderful idea
Hehehe...they do call me the Korean Blonde, you know... :D :p :scream:

bumskee
11-28-2005, 09:22 PM
damn would have never thought 10 mins were so short! hehe, been a while since I did these quick ones.. but here goes.. 10 mins each, (at work, not really suppose to be doing these, but couldn't resist. :))

I realised how off I was but that was after 5 mins, hehe so too late.

zhuzhu, sure 15 mins? that's friggin awsome dude.

Rebecca, I keep forgetting you are korean. :P hehe

http://home.exetel.com.au/bumskee/con/test1.jpg

http://home.exetel.com.au/bumskee/con/test.jpg

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 09:23 PM
Sweet to see you posting here, bumskee! :bounce: From a quick peek, these look cool...*scurries off to school to be able to see them clearly* :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

audit
11-28-2005, 11:00 PM
hello everyone.

@ falcor_ - thanks for your comment. i must say find it hard to know what to do other than just draw what i see - even if i know something is meant to be there in the shadows. too literal-minded i guess! you are producing ever better work :thumbsup: - but a shame they're pixelated :argh:

@ robomonkeymodule - i really like your first line sketch: i think something happened to the proportions from stage 2 on? Arms seem a bit long, legs a bit short maybe :)

Aaanyhoo, my next 15 min, still catching up:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure9.jpg

Longer studies:

Arm tones:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure8arm.jpg

I loved the pose, so did it again: 1hr w/ zhuzhu's excellent brushes! (did the whole thing this time :D):

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure8.jpg

Rebeccak
11-28-2005, 11:20 PM
Sweeeet work, people!! :thumbsup: Eek, can't wait to do more of these...too bad I have class! :argh: :scream: :p

Cheers, :)

~Rk

audit
11-28-2005, 11:26 PM
oh god don't remind me, Rk :argh:

bumskee
11-28-2005, 11:39 PM
thanks rebecca, was just getting warmed up and the manager walked in! damn.. hehe.. anyways managed two more, 15 mins each. damn had no idea figures upside down was so hard.. I was practically lost for 15 mins.. more reason to appreciate all the awsome figures here.

audit, the dancing dude looks sweeet.!

http://home.exetel.com.au/bumskee/con/test2.jpg

http://home.exetel.com.au/bumskee/con/test3.jpg

Goro
11-28-2005, 11:42 PM
wohoo bumskee! You're still alive! long time no see. Keep em coming
Great sketches everyone.

bumskee
11-28-2005, 11:48 PM
Goro! sweet, good to see you, how you been mate?!, and YES unfortunately I am still alive. hehe. cheers mate.

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 01:14 AM
Nice, bumskee! Really great economical capturing of the motion! I'm going to seriously harass you to do a Tutorial on the Anatomy Forum for your beautiful grayscale paintings, though ~ watch your back! :scream:

Speaking of Tutorials *cough* Goro *cough*... :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Notions2Motion
11-29-2005, 01:57 AM
Thanks for the critiques guys.

Mr. Mu - Thanks! One thing that helps me is having a couple of timers going. I have a 1 min timer I built in Flash that just keeps repeating and beeps once a minute. The other one is my watch and I let it go for about 5 min. Despite keeping the timers, it seems to help me to keep only loose awareness of the time and pay attention as much as I can to just drawing. Timers can produce additional anxiety and I do better when I can relax while focusing. It's been pointed out that there really is no one way to do things, but I'm trying to streamline my process so I can try to isolate and fix mistakes more easily and get faster.

audit - Yeah, you're definitely right about the proportions. I didn't even notice that. It's weird how I seem to get a better feel for certain things in my initial impression but sometimes lose them in later stages. Nice work, btw!

bumskee - Awesome looking work.

I'll be back for another post tomorrow. Peace.

samspade
11-29-2005, 03:22 AM
Been lurking for awhile and thought I'd join in the fray. 15 minutes is really short for some of us... Nowhere near enough time for me to make something decent... :sad:

http://www.redcardarmy.com/images/speed/soccer%20player-15min.jpg (http://www.redcardarmy.com/images/speed/soccer%20player-15min.jpg)

http://www.redcardarmy.com/images/speed/ballet-15min.jpg (http://www.redcardarmy.com/images/speed/ballet-15min.jpg)

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 05:44 AM
samspade,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to CGTalk! Glad to see your first post! :) I like the second drawing in particular. :) Well, we changed our minds about linking here, so it would be cool if you wouldn't mind copying and pasting the URL of your images individually into the little yellow sun/mountain icon in the Edit Post Text Editor ~ that way, we can see your images without having to click on the link. Sorry for the earlier confusion, I was being a bit prudish about nudity ~ in an Anatomy Forum, no less! :scream:

Glad to have you aboard! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

the_entity
11-29-2005, 06:05 AM
well, first time in this thread :P

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/4885/sketch18uz.jpg

15 mins, hope it doesn't look too bad :D

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 06:07 AM
the_entity,

Welcome aboard! I like the linework quite a lot, and think the body in particular is well~drawn! Glad you are joining us! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
11-29-2005, 06:21 AM
Glad to see all the beautiful poses going on here. These 15 mins sketches sure are an eye opener to me. Keep on rocking guys! I'll be back with more.

Ego
11-29-2005, 07:39 AM
One from me today.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/sketchathon/dancer5.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 08:01 AM
17 minutes.Drawn on paper while lookin at monitor.I messed up the back and abdomen area a bit,didnt erase and correct wanted to finish in 15 mts in one attempt.:)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/balletcopy.jpg

the_entity
11-29-2005, 08:06 AM
That looks very very good Thomasphoenix, I wish I had a scanner..drawing on paper is soo much easier

Mu
11-29-2005, 08:11 AM
thomasphoenix - wonderful classical feeling about this... guess rebeccak will love it:wavey:


queensoul - I instantly liked that one, too

Now, all I need is a surgeon to excise me from this thread so I can go back to OFDW 008:scream:

scorpion007
11-29-2005, 08:12 AM
Here's another one of mine: This time in painter. Im using it for one main feature: Rotate canvas!

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6656/gestures51su.jpg

scorpion007
11-29-2005, 09:01 AM
This time a little more than 15 mintures due to interuptions.

Painter rocks :)

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5276/gestures61xw.jpg

Ego
11-29-2005, 09:20 AM
Thomas, thats really beautiful!

The_entity, do you have a digital camera? That could also substitute for a scanner.

Ego
11-29-2005, 09:20 AM
thomasphoenix - wonderful classical feeling about this... guess rebeccak will love it:wavey:


queensoul - I instantly liked that one, too

Now, all I need is a surgeon to excise me from this thread so I can go back to OFDW 008:scream:
:P You can do both :D

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 09:25 AM
GRRRREAT Thread....GREAT works ppl

Here is my superfast sketch....3 min. exact. believe it or not ! LOL

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8396/1st2xp.jpg

scorpion007
11-29-2005, 09:25 AM
and another

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9097/gestures74jn.th.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gestures74jn.jpg)

the_entity
11-29-2005, 09:28 AM
Thomas, thats really beautiful!

The_entity, do you have a digital camera? That could also substitute for a scanner.

nope :sad:

I might pick up a cheap scanner though

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 09:45 AM
Another....
5 min.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5218/2nd8lc.jpg

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 09:57 AM
5 min.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5015/3rd2qy.jpg

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 10:19 AM
5 min.:bounce:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8594/4th7rk.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 10:28 AM
20 minutes!I think ill have a longer go at this one again.:)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/acrocopy.jpg

scorpion007
11-29-2005, 10:53 AM
Another, 15 mins:
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5214/gestures84jk.jpg

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 11:00 AM
Schwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeet works you guys!!! :bounce: Great to see so much cool stuff!!! :bounce:

ErichSchreiner
11-29-2005, 11:11 AM
Hi guys and girls, first post in here :)


just to get the point: i downloaded all poses, printed a few of 'em out and made my scribbles with graphite. the scribbles are small, the paper was A4 (lettersize). Are these too small? Would it be more difficult or better to make'em bigger?
My goal is to become more loose with my sketches and stuff
.
http://www.iconictales.com/turbosketches/turbo01.jpg

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 11:12 AM
Erich,

Bigger is better ~ go for one or two (one, I think) per page ~ really let loose with your shoulder / wrist / hand! Get expressive with your lines, and don't try to capture any detail @ the 2 minute level. Just go for motion / and feel of the pose.
In short, let it rip! Listen to rock music, if you have to! :beer:

Cheers! :thumbsup:

~Rebecca

ErichSchreiner
11-29-2005, 11:15 AM
@Rebecca
thx, i always listen to rock, metal, crossover etc :)

so i don't need to construct or measure, do i?

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 11:18 AM
Noooope ~ don't measure ~ the goal here is the opposite of the goal in the Workshop ~ it's less about accuracy than feel / movement / gesture / expressive line. I would even recommend getting a large newsprint pad, some charcoal pencils, or just various media of your choice. Draw big ~ get Jackson Pollock ~ like in your movements of your arm. For a few of these, don't even lift your arm from the page ~ just try to capture the essence of the pose in one swift, flowing line. Experiment. This is the place to really try new things and have fun ~ there's nothing to lose.

Cheers, :)

~Rebecca

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 11:32 AM
10-15 min.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/5024/5th0tz.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 11:56 AM
Ten minuter :).
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/dancercopy.jpg

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 12:41 PM
10 min.


http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/7650/6th5ld.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 01:03 PM
18 minuter!:)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/master.jpg

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 01:06 PM
It's a battle! Can't wait to post tonight! :D

Cheers,

~Rk

Art2
11-29-2005, 01:40 PM
you guys kick ass :thumbsup:

shyamshriram
11-29-2005, 01:40 PM
LOL Rebbeca :deal:
Hehe thanx Art2 :D
Thanx to Siju...u made my day :bounce:

10-15 min.
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5551/7th4ms.jpg

DRAWING is da PAINKILLER !!

TheDagger
11-29-2005, 02:45 PM
shyamshriram & Thomasphoenix: Those sketches look awesome!

--

I'm not very spontaneous person and I'm always too careful with my brush strokes. I'm trying my best to loosen up. This was probably the first time I didn't feel totally uncomfortable with just drawing lines here and there and blocking colours without thinking too much. That alone gives me hope. :)


http://koti.mbnet.fi/dagger/quick/15min3.jpg

ArtRage, 15 mins

Ego
11-29-2005, 02:46 PM
This is exciting to watch. I actually stopped what I was doing, and kept refreshing!

Art2
11-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Artrage, grey (15min) and red (couple of minutes evaluating)
I took the pic a soccer player as ref (few pages back) and thought I would make the game more attractive to the women... enter the naked soccer player :D
Anyway, it was a good exercise :)

http://www.marlonart.nl/web/fast10.jpg

TheDagger
11-29-2005, 04:23 PM
Eep. This is getting addictive.

Had to erase the other arm. It looked like it had been twisted in a car accident or something. :p

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dagger/quick/15min4.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 04:26 PM
22 minutes! I turned the pic around.Shyam is going to draw lots more tonite let me see how many I can come up with,Sketchathon it really is lol!

TheDagger your first sketch is really powerful! Great strokes!

cheers

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/swimcopy.jpg

Falcorr
11-29-2005, 04:28 PM
RoboMonkeyModule: Youre on the right track! :cool: Breaking down these steps is very important.

El Chief: Those sketches are just fine :applause:

TheDagger: I think you managed to capture the movement very well.

Art2: Good sketch! Uhmm maybe give him soccer pants next time.



Heres some of my sketches. Past 40 sketches mark this time! *woohoo* :wip:
They are all 15 minutes

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy039.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy040.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy041.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy042.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 04:52 PM
10 minutes

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/footbal.jpg

urgaffel
11-29-2005, 05:29 PM
http://www.urgaffel.com/lifedrawing/15minsession02_01.jpghttp://www.urgaffel.com/lifedrawing/15minsession02_02.jpg
http://www.urgaffel.com/lifedrawing/15minsession02_03.jpghttp://www.urgaffel.com/lifedrawing/15minsession02_04.jpg

Here we go, four more sketches together with the rough line-of-action thingies just for the fun of it :)

*edit*

They are old references since I don't have internet at home so I save images when I can hook up my laptop so I've been missing out on a ton, sorry for the blast from the past ;)

Thomasphoenix
11-29-2005, 06:00 PM
Thank you Rebecca and Queensoul for the amazing references you have posted here ,One look at any of the pics and I feel like drawing.
17 minutes ! http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/boy.jpg

Ego
11-29-2005, 06:37 PM
You are very welcome Thomas. I am having a blast watching you guys do these wonderful sketches. So inspiring. Now am feeling much better, I'll post another theme tomorrow :)

Falcorr
11-29-2005, 06:43 PM
urgaffel: glad to see you post here :) Theyre pretty good. All of them 15 minutes? or shorter?

Thomasphoenix: someday i'll be just as good you are :buttrock: Great sketches. Wanna help the newbies understand your construction method? Just few snapshots of different stages and time frames. Thanx!

Heres couple done by me.. I just cant achieve photorealism in 15 minutes! its insane!.. But i think im learning.. a lot. Hopefully i achieve better techniques and speed for normal artworks from imagination.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy043.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kamarainen.juha/15Min_anatomy044.jpg

urgaffel
11-29-2005, 07:21 PM
urgaffel: glad to see you post here :) Theyre pretty good. All of them 15 minutes? or shorter?

I think they are around 10-15 minutes each except the kicky-pose since they are just basic shapes, maybe 30 seconds - 1 minute for those? I'm glad you think they are good heh...

I like your skydiver, really nice sense of movement and colours, and it looks like a lot of detail even though there isn't :)

Ego
11-29-2005, 07:41 PM
falcor you nailed the diver pretty good, especially since a lot of people have shied away from those wonderful foreshortening poses theme :D

Notions2Motion
11-29-2005, 08:02 PM
I don't know if I'm allowed to post here with this kind of stuff going on. :D

Spent the morning reviewing proportions. Not sure if it really paid off for these speed drawings. I was frustrated enough with my 15 minute drawing that I'm not going to post it, but that doesn't mean I'm really happy with these either. I'm not too good with cloth wrinkles and I ended up getting caught up in them more than I cared to.

I think I'll do one of the nudes and see if it turns out better.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/3min_kick.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/7min_kick.jpg

TheDagger
11-29-2005, 08:10 PM
Falcor: Really nice job with the sky diver. I like it alot.

--

15 minutes for this one ran out really really quickly. Either I need to get faster or buy a second tablet and work with both hands at the same time. :D (Although that wouldn't work of course.)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dagger/quick/15min5.jpg

audit
11-29-2005, 09:51 PM
wow today has been global supersketchaction...really nice stuff thomasphoenix, shyamshriram!

@ bumskee - hehe thanks for your compliment :) i think rebeccak has already pointed out what i wanted to say about the economy of your sketching - which is that i like it a lot...

so my blah: 12mins for body. foolishly came to the head last, so add another 15 on for the head :/ well yeah, i should have redone the proportions but it was too late :D

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Figure10a.jpg

hope to post more as and when

scorpion007
11-29-2005, 11:24 PM
15 mins, painter

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/6309/gestures91nw.jpg

Rebeccak
11-29-2005, 11:30 PM
Wow, you guys are rockin'! :bounce:Great to see this thread heating up!!! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Trollboy
11-30-2005, 01:27 AM
This thread is a really good idea!:D Here's 2 i did. I started at the begining of the thread - i figure i'll catch up eventually.

15 minutes:
http://www.stosiak.com/images/art/stuf/15min_02_web.jpg
16 minutes:
http://www.stosiak.com/images/art/stuf/15min_03_web.jpg

the first one is kinda messed up, but i think the second one is ok. c&c?

I did one at work over lunch today as well, i just forgot to email it home. I'll try to put it up tomorrow or thursday.

Thomasphoenix
11-30-2005, 01:30 AM
Two versions

1st 16:) mts ,second 3 minutes..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/thomasphoenix/shaolin.jpg

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 01:32 AM
@urgaffel,
Great to see you here my friend! :bounce:

@Thomasphoenix

Very Burne Hogarthian! :thumbsup: Me likes!! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Thomasphoenix
11-30-2005, 01:44 AM
:)Thanks Rebecca...

Sometimes it just comes out Hogarthian ,I cant stop it..especially when drawing fast,Hogarth's sketches were all blazing fast and his form conceptions are well suited for quickfire sketches especially in foreshortening,the other method I use is the blocking with solids but that takes more time, However the results are more accurate :)

Notions2Motion
11-30-2005, 01:57 AM
Here is one of the same pose that I don't hate as much. I scribbled it out while I was waiting for my bus. Around 3 minutes. Trying to apply the bone practice I've been putting in in a gestural way.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/RoboMonkeyModule/b3min_kick.jpg

About the "Hogarthian" drawings: I picked up a number of the Hogarth books back in Highschool. I think I tried to jump into them without really being ready. It seems they require a certain amount of knowledge of the bones/muscles beforehand. A lot of people say bad stuff about his books and style, but it seems to me it's just a matter of being ready for the material and applying his tools to what you already know.

Right now I'm still memorizing bones and muscle groups, working through Loomis and Bridgeman. But it's reassuring to see your work and Rebecca's that my stack of Hogarth books still has plenty to offer in the future.

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 02:28 AM
@Thomasphoenix,

Hehe, I agree! :beer:

@RoboMonkeyModule,

Nice sketch! You're really getting a nice sense of movement going, and have a nice touch with the pencil!

Regarding Hogarth, it's silly for people to disregard him ~ I don't ever advise folks to draw exactly like him, but no other artist has so clearly formalized the figure in such a straightforward way as to be comprehensible by everyone. That's a huge legacy! :) People who put down his work are doubtfully able to devise a better system for explaining / simplifying the human body and its complex forms. If they were able to do so, I would buy their book! :wavey:However, I think Hogarth's work exists in the contexts of other peoples' work, such as that of Bridgman and a whole panoply of others. I would always encourage people to study from a variety of sources, and not just one. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Trollboy
11-30-2005, 02:35 AM
these are addictive. here's another one:
http://www.stosiak.com/images/art/stuf/15min_04_web.jpg

Thomasphoenix: i really like that shaolin sketch

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 03:43 AM
Siju keep posting !! :bounce: HOTT sketches....keep posting everyone...

some of my sketches...12-15 min.


http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/2448/1b2si.jpg


http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/2580/1a9he.jpg

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 03:43 AM
Great sketches, Shyam! :thumbsup:

I'm going blurry! :scream: Sorry, Goro...:D...me likes fuzzy pictures...:D

15 Min. PS...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31_small.jpg

After 15 more min:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31_small2.jpg

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 03:47 AM
Thanx Rebbeca :D

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/3490/1c2cc.jpg


http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/7415/1d1cw.jpg



http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/7808/1e9jw.jpg

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 03:48 AM
one more :D


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8725/1fb6bd.jpg

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 04:07 AM
15 more minutes...this one's headed to OFDW 008...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31_small3.jpg

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 04:29 AM
15 more minutes...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31_small5.jpg

Posted on the OFDW 008, see last post:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2866218#post2866218

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Thomasphoenix
11-30-2005, 06:21 AM
Rebecca,Nice soft feeling in this one! very ethereal!

Mark Stosiak @Trollboy,

Those two sketches are terrific!edit the post and link the images so they are displayed!use the mountain and sun icon to add ur url while postin.

Cheers

scorpion007
11-30-2005, 06:42 AM
another:....

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9470/gestures103jl.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-30-2005, 06:52 AM
@Scorpion007, nice linework,what is the medium?and a small crit if i may ,couple of yr sketches have heads a bit too small ,I feel theyll look better with larger heads:)

Art2
11-30-2005, 06:53 AM
15 more minutes...:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/15%20min%20sketch/15-min_31_small5.jpg






Gddamnit woman, why do you taunt me so... I wanna see a clear pic of that naked woman :cry: :thumbsup:

ThomasPhoenix, great nude skeches! ... Yeah, maybe I should leave out some bodyparts too next time :D

scorpion007
11-30-2005, 07:19 AM
and another:

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/4245/gestures112vt.jpg

EDIT:

Thomasphoenix, thanks for the crit, I will try making the heads larger in my next sketches. The medium is Corel Painter, and Im trying various things out in the sketches. For example the one you asked about was some sort of Ballpoint pen, with charcoal to block in some values, this time I used a 2B pencil and charcoal once again (in Painter). I would use traditional but I find it a pain in the neck to constantly find a scanner and bring em in to post. If I had one in my room I would use traditional a lot more for these..

scorpion007
11-30-2005, 07:29 AM
I decided to enlarge the head on my last one and touch up a few details:

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/8087/gestures1124ue.jpg

I think it looks a lot better. I like the way the 2B pencil feels in Painter, very smooth as opposed to the digital ballpoint pen I was using in my earlier sketches.

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 09:10 AM
10 min. mess in PS :D http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8503/8th9kp.jpg

Thomasphoenix
11-30-2005, 09:50 AM
WooHoo!:),Thats really good! excellent brushwork! the strokes go well with the action!

scorpion007
11-30-2005, 10:21 AM
and another:

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/3922/gestures129my.jpg

Very nice, shyamshriram :)

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 11:08 AM
Thanx Scorpian...
its very addictive :D
my lastest 10 min. crap :|

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1026/9th2ic.jpg

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 11:11 AM
Good morning you guys! Lots of great activity today! :bounce:

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 11:21 AM
Thanx to Queensoul for starting this thread and posting great ref. i havnt tried fast sketches from long time (i never did fast sketches with colours)...but now im having Great fun with it. Thanx to Rebecca too :)

keep posting everyone !
Cheers !

Rebeccak
11-30-2005, 11:23 AM
Shyam,
Hehe, Queenie rocks! :bounce:See you guys later...:)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 12:19 PM
:D one more crap.... LOL

12-15 min.

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/403/10th2pp.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 12:38 PM
New 15 Minutes Sketchathon References: Theme: Serenity Mix
Its gonna be a mix bag of sane poses today. Courtesy of our friend Erilaz, the king of the tea drinking people. Fresh back from a gruelling workshop with our very own Rebecca! Good to see both of them free now for some extreme sketching fun.
This one is large so am linking it.
http://www.jmaynorfitness.com/Pose%201.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 12:39 PM
Sitting pretty!
http://www.selvaggialucarelli.it/foto/posa/selvaggia_casa47.jpg

shyamshriram
11-30-2005, 12:44 PM
:love: oh my....Thanx Queensoul :D love it :D

Ego
11-30-2005, 12:46 PM
Serenity is good for the soul.
Big image.
http://store.chopra.com/uploads/Ben-Childs%20Pose.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 01:03 PM
A well balanced act I must say.

Too big. Linking here.
http://www.bikramyoga.com/images/BalanceStickPose_000.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 01:04 PM
Staying with the groove.

http://www.giorgiacosplay.com/mycosplay/kimono/gallery/ki_2005-04_21.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 01:06 PM
Sitting pretty.
http://www.unc.edu/~brunstet/pose%20erik.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 01:10 PM
To each, his own.

http://www.jhfsc.org/photogallery/Store/3%20Backwards%20balancing%20pose.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 01:13 PM
And of course we promised the return of the foreshortening monster poses :p

http://www.mrqwirk.com/promo/pics/head.jpg

Ego
11-30-2005, 02:56 PM
Did I scare you guys?

Come on, sketch sketch sketch. :P
http://www.uc.edu/groups/sabha/pose.jpg