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Drake_Stormrage
11-19-2005, 11:03 AM
hi all at first.

i'd like to hear some comments/critique about this pic for a Xmas calendar. I imagined doing a scene where little Jesus was just born, surrounded with his parents, the three kings and some other pplz maybe... with an angel standing guard over the stable holding the Guiding Star in his/her hands.

Started out doing this very rough sketch:
http://redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar.jpg

I figured now, that i should make the stable a lot smaller in order for the angel to look giant.

Here's where i've come so far with the angel: http://redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar3.jpg

The wings still need to be properly lit/shadowed...
I appreciate all comments, thx in advance

Drake_Stormrage
11-20-2005, 01:51 PM
plz y'all good pplz here, give me a helping hand with this pic. maybe some advice with the coloring or composition, whatever... or maybe u could give me some tips in order for the 'guiding star' not to look so crappy but more like a star... :) plz plz

Falcorr
11-20-2005, 02:16 PM
Please is such a nice word :)

Oh uh.. Well of course there are many beatiful paintings depicting this moment so you could look at them to find cool references or ideas.

I like those wings you have created, but here comes the improvement suggestions.

Overall this picture tends to look quite flat. Because you havent used strong sense of perspective straight from the beginning of this artwork. You could try to improve the depth of the pic by creating smoother bigger shadows. Like under the wings.

Also play with the colors more..

I strongly suggest you to create all the elements in to the picture. That way you will know earlier will this picture end up looking good or not.

Basically its just hard work.. Its the boring truth. Hope you have fun time doing it :thumbsup:

Drake_Stormrage
11-20-2005, 04:09 PM
yay, thx for the comment :) i will definitely consider doing as u say. Unfortunately i hadnt had enough time to describe it more precisely back when i was posting. I mean to set her into the background in order to make her appear giant and sort of transparent/ghostly/angelic/whatever :) and therefore AFAIK she shouldnt drop any shadow on the ground (if that is what u mean) but i will shade her wings properly. I also guess that ill have to drop the horizon lower, and color the sand in blue night-ish tinting. Thanks again for the constructive critique :)

Drake_Stormrage
11-21-2005, 11:59 AM
here's the updated version:
http://www.redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar4.jpg

Plz notify me whats wrong w/ the lighting/shading/tinting if u notice anything odd.
i'll leave the BG unattended so far...

Thx in advance

lauranonce
11-21-2005, 03:50 PM
Hi Drake

nice idea .. the light effect seems quite good to me, you should add shadows in the front part of the external wings .
only a thing: the wings looks weird for me as they are bent close to the body..

Drake_Stormrage
11-22-2005, 11:30 AM
thx laura for the comment, i've added some shadows on the wingtips. Well, here's the next update:http://www.redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar5.jpg

I've done the terrain in ZBrush 2.0, then touched it up in photoshop to this look. The lighting should at least be correct considering a lightsource coming from the top. The lil' house is just a draft, i'd need some help with the placement/perspective of it.

Drake_Stormrage
11-24-2005, 08:20 AM
another update or two :) :
http://www.redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar6.jpg

The most recent one:
http://www.redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar7.jpg

A 'detail' of Joseph and Maria (with the angel invisible in order to see the sky better) :
http://www.redeye.ic.cz/pics/XmasCalendar7detaiL.jpg

It's still missing little Jesus, some other ppl (shepherd maybe), their animals and MAYBE the three kings (dunno if i'll have enough time to draw so much people, so i think i'll do without them). Maybe i'll ad some detail for the landscape in form of some small bushes or whatever.

And yet i have to decide for a proper blending mode and opacity for the angel. I've also added a glow for her.
Currently the blending mode is 'screen' with 100% opacity and the glow is made as follows:
I duplicated the layers of the angel, flattened them and gave it the 'linear dodge' blending mode with master opacity of about 33% and fill opacity about 28% (and a somewhat lesser opacity than standard on the glow itself maybe)

If someone gave me some advice for the final image (particularly the blending of the angel) I'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance

BlueNyte
11-24-2005, 09:28 AM
hey this is neat. The only comment i have to say (hope it's not to late) is that the angel's upper arms seem way to long. The elbow is supposed to be right at the base of the rib cage, and right now it looks like a little longer. Great stuff though. Sets a nice calm mood. as for a blending mode...i just usually use normal for photoshop. I just recomend that you play with opacities. Hope this helps.

Drake_Stormrage
11-24-2005, 11:14 AM
thanks for the comment :) I fear that the arms will have to remain unattended b/c I dont really have that much time to finish this, but I can try :). I'm also thinking of applying a photo filter to the finished image for it to look more warmer, and it definitely was a help with the blending mode, thanks again.

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