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jigu
11-16-2005, 03:19 AM
Hello guys,

I m in for this challange.This is second time i m participating in Fxwars after car crash challange.

I will definately post some stuff soon.:bounce:

jigu
11-17-2005, 02:35 PM
ok guys time for some updates!!

here r the few screenshots of first shot.in which UFO get crashed on earth.:D
plz ur comments r welcome.
i used 3ds max 8 and no plugin is used to make smoke and fire.(i wanted to use afterburn but i m not much good with it..also it was taking little much time to render)

well this looks simple.i used pflow to make particle system.
and parray is used for fire trail of UFO.it's not getting motion blurred where as i have image motion blurred option turned on in parray property.anyone has any idea about it?
why is it not getting motionblurred?

anyway guys these r straight output out of 3ds max.

screenshots::

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/9610/test16za.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/9277/test21xo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/183/test33id.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test33id.jpg)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1808/test45do.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

droidoz
11-17-2005, 05:38 PM
Hey Jigu, the smoke and fire is lookin good, i'd like to see it in motion!

The photograph looks like it was a daylight picture and darkened afterwards, I dont know if this is true but it is a little distracting... Maybe another picture would be better

3DEffects
11-17-2005, 06:07 PM
Yes those pictures are amazing! Keep up the good work man!:D

jigu
11-19-2005, 06:00 AM
thanks guys for ur time on my thread.

doridoz : yes it's actually high res daylight picture near to wheatfield(so later on my i can show crop circles in wheatfield). i m not gonna post storyboard right now.but wanted to post screenshots as it goes. i actually rerendered whole animation again and also did little post production in combustion to make image a little dark.so it looks like night scene.(but it looks more like evening or early morning scene). and also added camera shacking to still image to make it beliable shot.

3Deffects : thanks man!!;)

i m trying my best for this challange. although my story is cliched so i need to work a more on effects stuff.

More willl come soon!!!:bounce:

jigu
11-19-2005, 06:19 AM
well here is the almost done 1st scene::

http://jigu.actkid.com/cam1_final.mov (3 Mb sorenson 3 quicktime).:)

camera shacking is added in max.and lowered down brightness and increased contrass in max to make image little darker for night scene.

thanks guys for ur time.:)

droidoz
11-19-2005, 07:16 AM
Very good! Maybe the camera shake should start when the ufo hits the ground, It might get more dramatic impact. Its just a sugestion though, it looks very impressive!

jigu
11-19-2005, 08:06 AM
thanks droidoz :: yeah i reworked on it.;)
ok here is just a little update!!

first scene descreption : man found some thing UFO kind thing burning in the sky and coming down fast to ground.he views it with his camera as ufo comes down close to ground he tries to runaway and also tries to capture that UFO

here is the viewport preview of it.
http://jigu.actkid.com/viewport.avi (divx 400 kb)

thoughtcriminal
11-19-2005, 09:21 AM
Hay man great job!

I saw both footages, the second one (the viewport preview) looks a lot better.

That viewport preview got me thinking - are you using facing plains to creat the smoke trails and all that fire effect? -looks nice!

ninbus
11-20-2005, 11:10 AM
thats freaking cool man...:cool: i got blown off my chair:buttrock:

keep up the good work man...

cheers:D

jigu
11-20-2005, 11:13 AM
Hay man great job!

I saw both footages, the second one (the viewport preview) looks a lot better.

That viewport preview got me thinking - are you using facing plains to creat the smoke trails and all that fire effect? -looks nice!

hey thanks man!!

actually that viewport preview i posted to show camera shacking (as from scene 1 description cameraman is trying to runaway from UFO). it's done mapping whole movie on plane and using noise controller to camera in 3ds max.

As for UFO fire trail effect, i cloned UFO and pushed its mesh with push modifier and used it as Fire trail emiitter(so fire will cover whole UFO and it will look like ufo is burning) and with lots of around 500% particles(hmm i think around 50000) and with proper lower size and used facing for type of particles. u can get good fire effect by using lots of small size particles.;)

And for volumetric smoke i used Geosphere as instant shape.and that explosion is done using PFlow and UFO crash is done using reactor.(with very high friction assigned to both ufo and ground plane to stop the UFO before the camera.)

i hope i answered right to ur question!!

more will come soon.

ivanisavich
11-21-2005, 06:10 PM
Dude that looks totally awesome!

Keep it up!!!

jigu
11-22-2005, 02:15 AM
Hey T thanks man!! nice 2 c u here!! ;)

i know u will be in this challange with ur surprize entry!! :p

RockinAkin
11-22-2005, 03:37 AM
Looking awesome so far... can't wait to see more.

jigu
11-25-2005, 05:51 AM
thanks ninbus and Dividedbyzero...:)

Here is the second scene of the movie..In which after crash Ufo get sparked and started burning . but i m not still satisfied with it.i wanted to show alien walking away from UFO and entering into farm and being suddenly disappeared.
if anyone wants to help me with alien model or animation.i would really appriciate ur help.

File : http://jigu.web1000.com/scene2_final.avi (divx 400 KB)

again i didn;t use any plugin. that fire is faked with Geospheres as particle's geometry.and i also added grass to the scene using pflow.

waiting for ur feedback guys.
should i keep this shot in the movie or not?
next shot will be on crop circles.(yeah i did some tests to make crop circle in 3ds max).

Edit : sorry guys i posted wrong link before.

jigu
11-26-2005, 02:08 PM
ok guys i m not gonna include last shot as background doesn' seem to interesting.

still working on.

ninbus
11-26-2005, 03:41 PM
yeah i suppose some more work on it might make it intresting...
neways nice going....
Cheers:bounce:

psilo
11-26-2005, 03:49 PM
hello the_jigu
i just wanna know if you can explain a little more hox you shaded your smoke partcles....
thanks....

ps...very cool explosion...the fire look to spherik

jigu
11-27-2005, 06:21 AM
Thanks sagar(ninbus).yes i m working. i still have 20 days left.:)

Thanks psilo for ur reply.

Well for smoke particles.it's done two way.those dark brown trails r facing particles.and in its material i simply assigned dark brown color for diffuse chennel.and faded the opacity of particle with particle age map.;)

and for those volumetric smoke.well if ur system is fast enough to handle lots of particles and with detailed geometry.u can use big geosphere and smalle geosphere scattered over big geosphere.and after putting that scattered object in blobmesh and use that blobmesh shape as in shape instant operator to assign that shape to particle and animate the scale of particle over time.
but u can also use only one geosphere as shape instant operator if ur system is not fast enough.just apply noise modifier over geosphere to displace its shape topology a little irreguler.

And for its material i use nothing just dark brown color sampled from background image.
and used animated smoke map in bump slot with large negative bump value.

well i can say biggest trick is motionblur.to blur the motion of particle that works.

anyway i hope i answered ur question.

posting update in next thread.

jigu
11-27-2005, 06:26 AM
little update.

i m trying blade trinity style distinguish effect.i used lots of facing particle for that fire effect around (30000 ) and multiplied to 500 at rendering time.
still working on it.so i m gonna add more particles upto my system can handle.

anyway look at these images.

if anyone wants to help me with alien model and alien animation. u r welcome to do that.and can pm me.coz i modelled the alien in which face looks little cartoon style.one of my friend "sriram" helped me to finish the alien model.but as he is busy with his exams.anyone would like to help me can pm me.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9646/test7ik.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6834/test11ab.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ninbus
11-27-2005, 08:25 AM
What kind of animation you are looking at??:curious:

jigu
11-27-2005, 08:35 AM
What kind of animation you are looking at??:curious:

ok i didn;t posted story or story board yet....

well here u go ::

scene 1 : man found something unknown UFO kind of object burning in the sky.it's coming towards down to ground ang get crashed on ground.

scene 2 : UFO is burning near the farm of big grass or wheatfield.somehow alien saved himself and walked towards the wheatfield or farm.

scene 3 : next morning he found dead at the centre of crop circle.no body knows how does the crop circle made.and suddenly his body burns out.

scene 4 (not sure that i will show or not ) : showing crop circle from the sky view.

here is just little update::

i added more particles and changed particles color.

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6203/test35ux.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Neejoh
11-27-2005, 04:22 PM
Should be a cool animation, good luck with that!

Do you have a little animation of the alien "burst/burn"? It's looking kinda cool!

rakmaya
11-27-2005, 04:44 PM
Nice particle effect and good story board as well. Good luck

jigu
11-28-2005, 04:26 AM
Thanks Rakmaya!! (hmmm...Rakesh??)

Thanks Neejoh!!

yeah i rendered out that animation last night for test purpose.
there r lots of small size of particles.but my system hopefully handeled it.

i did little color correction and added more contrast to that rendered scene.and background image is the image that i m gonna use for this shot.
but this is not final shot.

here is the link :

http://jigu.web1000.com/scene4_test.avi (divx 922 KB)(Right click and "save target as")

nileshshah
11-28-2005, 11:25 AM
very nice work
:thumbsup:

-------------------------------

nilesh shah
www.splineworks.com (http://www.splineworks.com)

onix3dmx
11-29-2005, 04:17 PM
:buttrock: Is looking great!


kept up the good work!

ninbus
11-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Great effects:eek: but the feets looks like they just disappeared in thin air:surprised

Cheers:beer:
SaGaR:thumbsup:

jigu
11-30-2005, 01:39 AM
Thanks Onix3d for ur enocouraging reply!!

Thanks sagar....:P i know u can see those legs r being invisible at very last after the fire effect. coz i deleted particles before legs get disappeard.

BTW guys this was just test.i m not sure that i will put exact effect like this.i m still working on it.i m trying to get more realistic fire.and u can see when head gets burned there is not skeleton in the body and even head upper part isn't following gravity :D :P

Still working!!

Thanks to stay in touch.

jigu
11-30-2005, 12:37 PM
just a little update to alien burning shot.

making alien invisible after burning doesn't look good and real.so i decided to show him totally burned and dead after burning.here is the screenshot from half rendered scene.
u can see that alien isn't being invisible now but being totally black skinned like coal after burning.(excuse my bad english.)
this is final shot for alien burning.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/2752/new1ev.th.jpg (http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1ev.jpg)

ninbus
11-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Sweet Burns....:bounce:
Absolutely Lovely...:applause:

Creed
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
well here is the almost done 1st scene::

http://jigu.actkid.com/cam1_final.mov (3 Mb sorenson 3 quicktime).

camera shacking is added in max.and lowered down brightness and increased contrass in max to make image little darker for night scene.


I think the shaking camera is very unrealistic, too much shake, very annoying.
You even have the camera shaking before the UFO hits the ground, which is strange too.

I mean, have you ever watched War of the Worlds? There's some nice large-scale
explosions going on there that doesn't make the viewer threw up.

jigu
12-01-2005, 02:41 AM
Thanks creed for crits!!

i think u didn't check updated file after that post.

here is the avi file for scene1::

http://jigu.actkid.com/viewport.avi (divx 400 kb)

check out it on first page if u missed that post.

JB
12-01-2005, 03:10 PM
I think the camera shake is fine on that update. It gives it a good sense of the scale of the crash.

jigu
12-04-2005, 03:38 AM
just little update to alien burn/burst shot....Thanks sriram to give me good alien model!! :D
i also did little color correction.and faked DOF effect in 3ds max and yeah composition is done in 3ds max and color correction in combustion.:)

Download link : http://jigu.web100.com/scene4.avi (Right click and "Save Target as" divx 1.17 MB)

screen shots::

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3161/test15en.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test15en.jpg)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/413/test24hx.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test24hx.jpg)

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1184/test46pk.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test46pk.jpg)

cgidude
12-04-2005, 10:06 PM
good work so far in the other videos :)

but the link above is not working:sad:

rakmaya
12-05-2005, 12:26 AM
Nice work. The only crit is the effect of the burn and aftermath on the environment. It would be great to get that effect and residue onto the ground. Unless you are trying for a more supernatural phenomena:)

rakesh

Matthewjc
12-08-2005, 08:38 PM
Great work so far, I wish I knew how to create the particle system you have there for the explosion... and the materials for the particles.... The alien getting fried was a cool idea too.

Matt

jigu
12-12-2005, 04:31 AM
Thanks guys for crits and suggestions...:)

here is the little update on crop circle..it's gonna be animated.it's done in 3ds max 8 with mentalray. :D

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4353/final8qg.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=final8qg.jpg)

RockinAkin
12-12-2005, 04:51 AM
Looking good so far - your alien burn shot file is down, I really want to check it out!
Keep it up man, cant wait to see the final?

Gangstashers
12-15-2005, 01:37 AM
Hey jigu

man your skils keep improving and improving!

Bohut accha laga hai tumhara clips.

Verry nice! i hope to see your alien burn clip soon, since it's offline.



Sheherryar

jigu
12-17-2005, 03:45 AM
Thank you all guys for ur support!!!

Last week was pretty bad for my health!!

yeah Guys that file doesn't seem to found there.i don't know what happened.but i m not able to logged into FTP of that free webhosting service.i have got server but with limited bandwidth.
If anyone wants to host my final file, i would really appriciate them help.

Anyway as for update, i m almost done with the final movie with sound;). if roberto wouldn't extend the dateline(i m sure it's gonnabe extended..) i would like to add one more little shot.

Again i need to know good free webhosting service where i can upload minimum 50MB of file and can provide hotlinking for download purpose.

Regards
Jigu.

Dagibit
12-17-2005, 05:37 AM
Well that's a winner if I ever saw one:buttrock:

RobertoOrtiz
12-17-2005, 06:37 AM
Thank you all guys for ur support!!!

Last week was pretty bad for my health!!

yeah Guys that file doesn't seem to found there.i don't know what happened.but i m not able to logged into FTP of that free webhosting service.i have got server but with limited bandwidth.
If anyone wants to host my final file, i would really appriciate them help.

Anyway as for update, i m almost done with the final movie with sound;). if roberto wouldn't extend the dateline(i m sure it's gonnabe extended..) i would like to add one more little shot.

Again i need to know good free webhosting service where i can upload minimum 50MB of file and can provide hotlinking for download purpose.

Regards
Jigu.
Try savefile.com

jigu
12-18-2005, 04:15 AM
As dateline is extended. i can't think what to add or what to not!!
if roberto will permit maybe i will do second entry.
but i think i should work more on crash scene to make it believable.as i got around 20 days more.(hmm if festivals wonn't eat my time....)
i will redo that crash shot with new good looking UFO model!! .

RyanVII
12-19-2005, 04:47 AM
I think you should work on sound. I think it will help sell the footage immensely. I think you definitely need to have crickets chirping. Perhaps before the crash we here the photographer says, "What is that? What the hell is that?" Maybe you could add some screams. Then comes the sound of the ship crashing, impact, and debris. With all of these combined and added to your footage, I think you have a strong piece. Keep up the good work. It's inspiring.

:thumbsup:

RobertoOrtiz
12-19-2005, 09:23 PM
As dateline is extended. i can't think what to add or what to not!!
if roberto will permit maybe i will do second entry.
but i think i should work more on crash scene to make it believable.as i got around 20 days more.(hmm if festivals wonn't eat my time....)
i will redo that crash shot with new good looking UFO model!! .

Multiple entries are ok in my book.

Have fun

-R

jigu
12-30-2005, 04:23 AM
Ryan :: yeah i finished my this entry and will post it soon(when i will be on cable net soon)
As for sound compositing , i m not good at it but i put the music track in the movie.

Roberto : thanks i m gonna do second entry soon.and i would have fun with it!! :D

jigu
01-15-2006, 06:32 AM
here is the link to voluntary clip...it contains music and two shots "ufo crash" and "alien burn" and in final clip it contains two more shots.

well they can't live in our environment..

here is the link::

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/47758/voluntary_final.mov (10 MB right click "save target as")

i would post final entry tomorrow...

jigu
01-16-2006, 04:34 AM
Hello everyone,

Here i go with my final submission.well my short looks like short story cum then trailer.

Story is about the UFO bymistake entered to the earth and crashed near the wheatfield.it's hard for alien to live on earth's environment.it alive for few hours and after that its whole body burned out due to atmosphere.and also Crop circle is found in the middle of wheatfield.......

I used 3ds max 8,combustion and photoshop for particlefx,compositing,lighting etc.I didn't use any plugin for this short.Alien model is by my friend sriram (http://sriram.freewebsites.com).

Thanks to all for comments and support. i really appriciated it.C & c r welcome.:)

Link to final shot ::

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd6/134372/jigu_fxwars_640x480_hybrid.mov (9 Mb,rightclick "save target as")

Mirror :: http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/47758/jigu_fxwars_640x480_hybrid.mov (9 MB,rightclick "save target as")

EDIT :: New file is uploaded.corrected the brightness of UFO crash scene.and also little of whole movie.it was too dark to see anything in crash scene.



http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6729/cropnew1fw.jpg

Thanks again,
Jigu.

JB
01-16-2006, 05:09 AM
That's great! :thumbsup:

I really like the crash, and the burning effect is fun to watch :D

jigu
01-16-2006, 07:39 AM
Thanks max_power. i really appriciated ur comment.

new file is uploaded.plz check EDIT of above post.:)

ninbus
01-16-2006, 05:04 PM
nicely done yaar:beer: great feel through the music:buttrock: ... love the crash:banghead:
and yeah one suggestion though, having the aliens head and arm a bit animated while dyeing will add life to his death:surprised ..lol

Cheers!!:bounce:

RobertoOrtiz
01-17-2006, 03:30 AM
POST YOUR ENTRY! FXWARS! Close Encounters Challenge:9 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=310471)

The actual Voting thread will go up the 23

-R

sriramatrix
01-17-2006, 07:48 AM
Great Job Jigu !:applause: The video looks great ! I like the explosion effect a lot:eek:

Good luck !:D

jigu
01-23-2006, 07:01 AM
Thanks sriram (and yeah thanks for giving time on alien model) and sagar for ur support.

If anyone interested , i made the breakdown of UFO crash scene.

link ::

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd6/134372/breakdown_compressed.mov (4 MB)

Or

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/47758/breakdown_compressed.mov (http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/47758/breakdown_compressed.mov) (4 MB)

jigu
01-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Here is the breakdown of "Alien Burns" shot, if anyone is interested...:)

here is the link to download the file::

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd6/134372/breakdown_alien1.mov (2 MB)

Dutchman
01-28-2006, 12:52 PM
That are some really interesting breakdowns, Jignesh! :) Cool to see that you did almost everything within 3dsmax... (as such 2D-cammoves can be more efficient to add in After Effects or so, its interesting to sea that you really use every option of 3dsmax!)

Also very cool to see your photo cleanups! :) You did a really great job on it, as I didn't notice it at all! :beer:

Good luck & All the best on the vote! :)
-Gijs

jigu
01-28-2006, 01:05 PM
Thanks Gijs!!!

Yeah i used 3ds max to fake camera motion in image...As 3ds max camera is more handy to use and easily we can fake camera motion....

i used combustion for final touchup like color correction,glow,bloom etc...and for Dolly/Motion blur on crop circle shot...

I didn't render eveyrthing in different passes coz i m on single machine and wanted to save rendering time as i was suppose to submit everything before first deadline....:)
and yeah all the best!!

whoever wins.. doesn't matter; i learnt a lot through this challange and i know u too...:)

-Jigu.

Jeet
01-30-2006, 02:41 PM
hey jigu, Keep going man!! i really enjoy ur works!! i like the crash and alien burns shot...!!

Jeet.

jigu
01-31-2006, 02:29 AM
Thanks jeet for appretiation...:)

RobertoOrtiz
02-03-2006, 06:43 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/fx1.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/?)Congratz!

-R

JB
02-03-2006, 07:56 PM
congratulations.

jigu
02-04-2006, 03:55 AM
Wow...I m surprized..:scream:

Thanks roberto and thanks everyone(dutchmen,max_power,ninbus,sriram ,onix eveyrone) who supported me and also thanks to cgtalkers for ur votes..

Thanks everyone.

All the best to everyone for next fxwars...

-Jigu.

ArtiZta
02-07-2006, 04:54 PM
Great job Jigu,
Congrats man!!


cheers

nelsig
02-08-2006, 08:27 AM
Congrats !

jigu
02-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Thanks Milan and neilseg for appreciation!! :)

anirudha
03-17-2006, 07:59 AM
looks simply gr8..................
a very good job jigu.......................you we come a long way since your fxwars first entry!
keep up the good work..........

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