Anatomy Thread of Corvax - 2D/3D

[Corvax]

This is where I am now with the first painting I'm my little mini project, I think I'll start of with some generic poses and just work on my proportions and placement, and not worry to much about the hair and such.

I'm apparently not as stupid with facial anatomy as I thought, but there are still things that are off. :shrug:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_01.jpg
-David René.

[Rebeccak]

David René,

One thing I would highly recommend is getting a book like Hogarth's Drawing the Human Head (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823013766/sr=8-4/qid=1148244175/ref=pd_bbs_4/102-7702925-5516940?%5Fencoding=UTF8), which will give you some good proportional rules to go by as well as a sort of archetype for a generic human head which you can base any kind of variation on. I think the key is to draw from life, but also from Master Works (traditionally, heh) to really establish in your hand / mind the feeling for correct proportions and measurements.

If you haven't already done so, check out this link:

Master Copy Resources (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354836)

and start doing copies from Anatomy books as well. I did the following review, in both forward / reverse simply because it was easier for me to draw the image facing left. :)



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Corvax/Corvax_R_03.gif

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

A little up date - worked mostly on the neck area.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_01-1.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Hmm, his neck is mighty beefy ~ I think you could reasonably cut it nearly in half and have it look pretty normal. Also right now his eyes look to be on the same plane, you might want to knock his right eye back a bit in tone so it doesn't jump out at the viewer. The eyes seem too close together. Nice work on the ear. I think lots of portraits from imagination suffer from a sort of tortilla effect, where the face on the far side seems to wrap unnaturally back toward the viewer, when you want it to recede. Adding a grey to the bkgrd and eliminating the white will help this, as right now the strongest contrast is where the right side of his face butts against the white, making our eye go directly to that. Reducing the contrast there will do wonders for properly pushing the far side of the face back in space.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

more work on the face..its starting to have a unsettling likeness to myself :eek: . the hair is just a placeholder.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_01-2.jpg

[Rist]

Astonishingly the more you work on a character and neglecting reference, the more it turns out to be the person you know the most; which in most cases is yourself.

Its starting to turn out great. Maybe dull down the darkness around the eyes, unless you are going for a nackered look.

[Rebeccak]

David René,

This is light years ahead of your previous version ~ the main things I would say are to still be careful about making the chest too big, and also to watch the central axis of the face, making sure that the major features fall off of that properly. Also the eyebrows look a bit close together, you might want to start them a bit further away from the root of the nose. One other thing is that the far eye looks a bit flat / as though it is in a bit of a fisheye view (in terms of a camera lens) you might want to try to tweak the drawing of that eye a bit to make it read more volumetrically. Finally I think he needs just a tad more added to his skull on the top and back. The darkened background is working really well, and it seems like perhaps you are starting to work from Reference.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Corvax/Corvax_R_04.gif

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Also the eyebrows look a bit close together, you might want to start them a bit further away from the root of the nose.

my eyebrows start that close together.. am I anatomically incorrect... should I go see a doctor
:sad: ?


-David Rene.

[Rebeccak]

LOL :D ~ that's hilarious, I'm sorry. :) I have this programmatically drilled in archetype of a Burne Hogarth face, deviations will not be allowed! :scream:

Sorry, David René...carry on...:D

Cheers,

~Rk

[Rist]

You've contracted the Hogarth desease! Now you need to be cured by going to Life drawing classes! HAH!

[Corvax]

phew.. last update for to night.:) ..

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_01-3.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Definitely better. I think the main thing that needs to be fixed is his right shoulder, which seems short / abbreviated. Otherwise, just a matter of tightening things up and tweaking.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Cyanid]

nice work, nice selfportrait! do you work from a photo?
and will you add color to this one?

[Corvax]

Cyanid:




Well its not really a self portrait, but that are definitely element of it that I've seen before on my own face -the nose, the lips, and the apparent tendency towards uni brow:) .. but then again there are definitely things that are not my own - like the eyes and the jaw.
and no I don't think I'm gonna color it, I've always found it hard to move from value to color - it tends to look like a colored value painting more then a actually color painting.. if that makes any sense. :)

[Corvax]

The final version of the image.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_01-finnal.jpg

David René |:)

[se7en-z3r0]

Lookin good man. You skipped RK's comment though about the shoulder... she's correct. The shoulder muscle would not even be seen when its cropped like this. Keep up the great work.

[demented]

Great portrait Corvax- very well rendered. Apart from the shoulder I really like how you've handled the whole thing. Lighting is great.

Keep it up bro.

- d.

[Corvax]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_02-1.jpg

I thought I try out a color portrait for the second one. I'm already a few hours into it, and there are definitely things that need correcting, but I just thought I'd post it now and see if you guys had anything immediate to add.

-David René.

[DigitalSol]

Hello Corvax, I loose this thread for a while, I will try to catch it up now, just want to say that you are a very talented guy, the selfportrait is wonderfull and the above one in color is looking already great, keep them on going, this is a wonderful thread, see ya.

[Corvax]

thanks digitalsol.

update.
worked a bit more on it mainly fixing areas that were kinda off. still lots of things to do - I got to fix that ugly ear for starters. :D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_02-2.jpg

[Rebeccak]

David,

Nice work on your last piece, I think all the comments others made were very good.

I did a review of your latest piece ~ let me know what you think:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Corvax/Corvax_R_05.gif

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

WeEEeeH .. that looks so much better .. :thumbsup: :scream:

LOL.. I think that is the weirdest thing I've ever done to a face, no wonder I could'nt wrap my head around it. :D

Edit: A little update, added a bit more color into the face, work on some of the general features and last but not least corrected the face distortion after RebeccaK's review.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_02-3.jpg

-David René.

[Rebeccak]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for taking the comments so well! :)

I think there's still a bit of distortion ~ you might try narrowing the face just a bit, and especially moving the ear down so the top is in alignment with the brow, and the bottom in alignment with the bottom of the nose:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Corvax/Corvax_R_06.gif

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

update..:scream:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_02-4.jpg

-David René.

[Rebeccak]

Lovely adjustment, this looks much better. :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Monster_General]

Hey wow that face really cool :) , keep up lease :thumbsup:

[demented]

Hey Corvax

Awesome work on this face - you've fixed it up brilliantly. Maybe try and adjust the highlights and shadows around her nose - seems slightly flat right now (maybe due to her cheek?) Keep at it man - great work.

cheers,

- d.

[Rist]

Quite a bit of distortion in this last one. The mouth and nose seem one of the culprits, and the eyes another.

Also maybe add the shape of the hair? Just to give the person some characteristics.

[Azabache]

I think it's getting better... maybe the skin should be darkened a little? Well, being this a protrait that depends on the person's skin really. :)

It's looking good, post more!!

Azabache

[Corvax]

All good observations gentlemen.:applause:

I think most the problems were related to a shading issue, I've been a little heavy handed with the cool highlight.:D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/portrait_project_02-5.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Looking good, David, :)

I think my next comments would be that her left shoulder looks a bit small due to your trying to fit it on the canvas. I think the root of her nose looks a bit severe and might be blended a bit more to give her a slightly less masculine look. The mouth might be just a tad small, but that is purely a judgement call.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Update.:scream:

got some hair blocked in, warmed up her face and work and over all detail.
the left shoulder is looking weird right now, I think I need to drop it down a bit more, or maybe raise it.. hmm gonna have to play around with that. :shrug:

http://david87.users.whitehat.dk/portrait_project_02-6.jpg

-David René.

[Rebeccak]

Hi David,

As mentioned previously, I think the main things to address next are the shoulders and the hairline. Otherwise, things seem to be working well.

Overall in terms of what you might study next, I would recommend one of two things:

1. Anatomy studies. I saw your comment about Gnomon DVD addiction :D and think that you might really benefit from trying some hard core studies ~ either drawings or paintings ~ purely focused on Anatomy. :)

2. A conceptual / illustrative piece. One thing that might be happening with your current piece is that you are not challenged enough by it. I'm currently planning an Illustration focused Workshop which will be about generating an Illustration based on an idea (not just a study or a portrait). You might really enjoy participating in that. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Alright I think this is gonna be the last portrait for my mini project, I think I'll abandon that last one :sad: .. this one is kinda scary looking right now - I've painted the most eerie expression on her, it was suppose to be sort off smiley and flirtatious .. but it kinda looks like see she sat down in something wet right now.:D

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/portrait_project_03-1.jpg

-David René.

[SpiritDreamer]

LOL..:scream: ......David .....made me smile...:) ....maybe take away those two vertical worry lines
on her forhead in between her eyes, and brighten up the nearest teeth, just a little. Might also give her just a little more puple in her eyes, and more rounded,...just a little.
Very nice job on it so far....expressions are very subtle sometimes...the slightest little change
can creat a whole different expression and mood....:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

LOL David ~ watch some of the facial distortion issues ~ particularly the far eye. Why did you decide to give up on the previous image?

Cheers,

~Rk

[Corvax]

Update. :wip:

Hmm.. I haven't really been able to shake that expression, it actually seems like its getting worse and shes starting to look kinda choppy too.. O'boy this is gonna be a long ride I recon. :banghead:


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/portrait_project_03-2.jpg

-David René.

[Rebeccak]

I think the part is a bit off ~ what's mainly contributing to the funny expression is the raised upper lip and the bit of a gap in her teeth :D ~ if you fix those, she might not look so sceeeery. ;)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

David,

It's great that you have volunteered to run a Workshop for Beginning Digital Painters! :)

I would suggest using Simo's thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3484754&postcount=1) as a guide for setting up guidelines for the Workshop.

When you create your thread in the Tutorials and Workshops Forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199), please name it:

WORKSHOP - Digital Painting Tips for Beginners - with Corvax


I would recommend writing in your first post, 'Please do not post until I have finished setting up this Workshop'. (Once you have finished setting up your thread, edit this out).

Then post maybe 2 or 3 more posts with *space reserved* so that you can later add internal thread links to those posts, and they will be at the beginning of your thread.

Please be sure in your first post to create thread guidelines, such as Simo has done in his thread. Please specify something along the lines of:

1. Although I will be giving comments and critique throughout the thread and helping with technical issues, the thread is about a community input to help each other develop our skills in a constructive group critique and interaction. Flaming is not allowed.

2. This thread is about Beginning Digital Painting. (Describe what the Workshop is about).

3. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge images, please!

4. WIP is encouraged. Please post your best work as you go along.

Beginners' aims - To learn the basics of Digital Painting using __________ program / s.

5. Lets make this fun!
Looking forward to seeing this happen! Please PM me with a draft, or post your draft here before creating the thread.

Basically, your thread should look like this:

1st post = Outline of the thread, the Rules, etc. (David)

2nd post = Tutorial Links - you will be responsible for editing this post as you create and post more Tutorials. Every time you create a Tutorial, link that post's individual URL to this 2nd post. (David)

3rd post = 1st Tutorial. (David)

4th post = Matt's Tutorial Links - Tutorial Links - Matt will be responsible for editing this post as he creates and posts more Tutorials. Every time he creates a Tutorial, he should link that post's individual URL to this 4th post. (Matt)

5th post = Matt's 1st Tutorial (Matt)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

David,

Thanks for putting up the Workshop! However...

Hello Hello Hello...

Any new updates? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Hi Rebecca.

I know I promised an update this week and I apologise for not being able to fulfill that promise. The fact of of matter is, that a resent change in apartments was pushed forward of schedule and has left me in a black hole of uninternetness (if that is a real word).
but as soon as I'm out of the digital darkness, and have managed locate my workstation in this landscape of cardboard boxes, I'll be sure to post an update :)

see y'all Monday when I'm back online. :wavey:

[Rebeccak]

Ah, gotcha! Good luck with the unpacked, we hope that you are internetted soon. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Random stuff from the last couple of weeks.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/superhero.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/superhero02.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/face05bw.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/face06_web.jpg
-David René.

[Rebeccak]

David,

Nice stuff!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/superhero.jpg


http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/superhero02.jpg

The top one is adorable, hope you finish it! I think you've got quite a nice imaginative drawing going on with the second. You ought to seriously think about planning a large scale, finished illustration. You have all the ingredients, I think, so it would be cool to see you take the logical next step. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Corvax]

Cat WIP :wip:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/kittywip05.jpg


I’m a bit stuck with this one, so I thought I would post my progress so far and see if anyone has any suggestions on how I might develop it further.:)

--David

[SulaMoon]

what else can I say? ^-^ awww!

The left side of the head on the image (not the kitty left side), looks a bit weird I think. Maybe because I cant the whats his ear and whats his cheek.. or maybe its just me

Soo cute! <3

[Intervain]

Great thread and OMG that kitty is just too cute!! ^__^:bounce:

[razz]

Ha, the first thing that came to my mind after seeing the kitty was "SOoo CUUUTE!!". Very well done, Corvax. The image is realistic, I like that :drool:

[Cris-Palomino]

David, you've got some very fine work in this thread and gallery. Very cute Scottish Fold kitten. I think I even found the image you may be working from (was it very tiny?). I don't know if you checked for other Scottish Fold images.

I found some here:

http://www.homepet.com/scottish/album-a.htm

Even with their little ears bent, they have a very definite and round little head. Don't lose that form. Also, the eyes are not completely sitting in the sockets. Your shadow is indicating depth which is not matched by the bottom of the eyes.

I love the indication of dappled light on the ground and the overall green cast.

Be careful with his leg melding into the rear of the body. It's difficult to make out the structure at this point.

Beautiful work on the fur...a real sense of softness.

Cris

[Corvax]

SulaMoon:

Thanks for stopping by. :wavey: –yeah I definitely see what you’re getting at with the head; it’s probably just a matter of subtracting a bit from the silhouette to separate the two shapes.
The cat is SOOoo fare from done; there are still a million things that need fixing, I just want to get the main composition and all the elements- if not in place, then at least suggested, before I start cleaning up the cat.:)

Intervain:


I'm glad you like my thread, and you always welcome to stop by again. :wavey:

Razz:

realistic...? Hmm … I actually think it’s a bit cartoony. :shrug: :)


Cris-Palomino:

I’m actually mostly referencing from an image that Martin Brennand
(Erilaz on CGTalk) posted in a frenzy of cute animals photos on the CGsociety IRC channel :D, and I’m sorry it’s not on of the site you posted. I’ll see if I can dig up the image I'm referencing from, somewhere online.:)

And I appreciate your comments on my piece, its very helpful.:thumbsup:


--David.

[Cris-Palomino]

Hi, David.

Sorry, didn't make myself clear. This was the image that I found that looked like your kitten:

http://www.joy.gr/files/2005/10/1/516943/Scottish-fold-kitten-t.jpg

The page I referenced was for more images on what Scottish Folds look like.

Cris

[Corvax]

Hi, David.

Sorry, didn't make myself clear. This was the image that I found that looked like your kitten:

http://www.joy.gr/files/2005/10/1/5...ld-kitten-t.jpg (http://www.joy.gr/files/2005/10/1/516943/Scottish-fold-kitten-t.jpg)

The page I referenced was for more images on what Scottish Folds look like.

Cris

More likely I just misunderstood :) .

And that is the image I’m working from :D, fortunately I found one that has a bit more resolution then that tiny thumbnail, I Couldn’t imagine doing much from such a small ref.

here is the higher resolution:
http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-animals/cutest-kitten-pic-13.jpg




-David.

[razz]

Cartoony? Well the kitten is a little cartoony, but the rendering doesn't seem like it. Or I still have a looong way to go to reach a cartoony look, not to mention realistic which I'm aiming for :arteest:

[NR43]

David,

you make it look like there is nothing to it, making a great portrait. I also really love your imaginative creatures and your cartoons.

This is a great thread you have here and I hope you don't mind me following up on your work

Have a nice one,
43

[Corvax]

Just for fun.:)
screwed up the face a bit, :shrug: didn't really bother to measure things out probable, but its okay I was mostly after the robe anyhow, I might go back and do the face probable later.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/myrobestoobig.jpg

I'll be back to comment on posts later.

-David

[Corvax]

Here is a WIP of what I'm currently working on, surprisingly enough its not a portrait :p ,
there are definitely a lot of areas that still need a bunch of work, but considering I've only put a couple of hours into it, I would say I'm pretty happy with how fare it has come.:)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/image01.jpg

-- David.

[Cyanid]

hi corvax

nice update, not much to crit so far. the leftbreast-shadow looks bit dark. keep it up, looking forward to the result! are you doing this from ref?
I love the monks clothing btw, it looks very real, especially the colors.

-cya

[razz]

One wordie - mindblowing!! Looked at the kitten again, soo cute :D The woman painting looks good. About the monk, the cloth needs more colors I think. But a the character is cartoonish, it looks good this way. I'm just not a fan of cartoony things, but when it comes to realistic cartoony things, I love it. A good example of that is Patrick Beaulieus' work.

[Corvax]

The return of the anatomy thread..!!:eek:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/oldy.jpg

[Corvax]

just for fun :) .
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/hubahuba.jpg

[Myku]

Hey Corvax,

This is the first time I've looked through your thread- Great work in here. Your last two updates are really awesome. :thumbsup: I will definitely check back for more!

PS- I feel like I've seen the guy with the afro before (???!!!)

[Corvax]

Sharing a wide screen sunset and popcorn with your best buddy.. life is good...:)

we'll have to see if I'm gonna take this one any further :)
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/widescreen.jpg

--David.

[NR43]

thanks for making me smile :)

[Rebeccak]

Heya David,

That John Travolta on a bad hair day piece is hilarious - looking forward to seeing your continued 'return'. :)

[Corvax]

... - looking forward to seeing your continued 'return'. :)

lol.. you should know by now, i'm never around.. but never completly gone neither..:D

[Corvax]

this mornings warm-up session.:)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/warmupface.jpg

--David

[Corvax]

a Tarzan sketch.:)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/tarzan-web.jpg

[sturmkim]

#311 is lovely drawing and expression!

[razz]

Lovely stuff, Corvax! I like it all a lot. Really nice looking drawing with the Mickey. Great execution of the idea. And the one before this one, just as the one after this one, are very nice looking. Kudos to you :)

[Rebeccak]

Heya David,

What are you up to lately? :)

[Corvax]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/statue01.jpg

a small example of what I've been up to lately, this is a life drawing after a Roman statue.
The drawing measures approximate some odd 110 * 60 cm. and is by fare the largest drawing I've ever done - but it was a nice experience working in such a large format.:)
I do have to apologize for the blurriness in some parts of the image, this was captured with a camera and shot from an angle, because of the glare from the graphite.:sad:

it's not exactly an anatomy or figure drawing as much as just an exercise in observational drawing.

-cheers David René :D

[Rebeccak]

Hey, it's great to see this! :) Is it part of a class you are taking?

Don't know if I've mentioned it before, but this is a great book:

The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing: A Contemporary Perspective on the Classical Tradition (http://www.amazon.com/Artists-Complete-Guide-Figure-Drawing/dp/0823003035/sr=8-1/qid=1168978602/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2492889-7206210?ie=UTF8&s=books)

Ryder approaches shading in a way similar to what you are doing here - there are some beautiful drawings contained in the book. As well he has a website:

http://www.tonyryder.com/

I may be repeating myself (if I am, I apologize) but I think you'd really like his stuff. :)

[Corvax]

I have come across Antony Ryder before, I haven't had a chance to check out that book yet thou.

this is part of class yes.
its actually the first value study I was allowed to do in almost six months, being a very color centric person, six months without putting down a single tone was absolute torture.:D

anyhow hopefully in the next couple of days, I'll be able to put up some the earlier works from class -thou most of that has a somewhat unfinished feel to it.

-David.

[Rebeccak]

Looking forward to it. Glad you are taking a class. :)

[Cyanid]

I've been away some weeks/months. But I am amazed by your progress.
I love the latest value study...especially the area around the knees. Well done!
:bounce:

and another thread added to my favorites ;)

-Cya

[Corvax]

here is a model of a head I've been working on lately, its still a work in progress.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/headmodel-1.jpg

--David Rene

[Rebeccak]

Hey, that's pretty impressive. :) Hopefully some of our experienced 3D folks can chime in here to give advice. Overall I think it's a great start - neck seems a bit long and I mentioned the ear, but overall I think it's looking good!

[vincent1]

Looks like you have achieved an excellent topological flow on the face.
Not too keen on the two thinly raised ridges at the top of the nose (unless your intention is a alien hybrid humanoid).

From the side, the head fits into a square, whereas it should fit into a rectangle.
In the light of the strength of the facial features, perhaps his neck should be much sturdier.

Again, if your model is a humanoid hybrid (ala Star Trek), these observations won't apply. :)

[anandpg]

Hi Corvax! I cant believe I completely missed this thread till now..!! Great work, dude!:thumbsup: your 3D head is coming out beautifully.. Just a few crits... the folds/wrinkles on the face(laugh-line, etc.) could use some sharpness.. the two pinches on the on the top of the nose dont work so well.. they seem to be pulled out instead of being pushed in.. the ear could be moved forward a bit and the shape of the ear could use some work. Can you post a screen-shot of the wire-mesh as well?
Keep up the good work!!:thumbsup:

[Corvax]

Wire shot as requested

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/headmodel_wire.jpg

I have been trying to get rid of the pinches over the bridge of nose, but no matter how much I tweak the verts around as soon as the mesh is sub-divided they are still there, I'm thinking that it's a typology problem, probably a pole issue :sad: . the ear is going to need a complete rebuild I think *sigh*. :banghead:
the biggest problem I'm having is the sudden changes in the detail required from the simple shapes of the side of the head to the complex shapes of the ear - does anybody know how to deal with this issue, without adding redundant edges to a model?

Anyhow, thanks for all the input guys, its been such along time since I've done any 3d, and back then I rarely did any modeling, so its always nice with the encouragement. :)

--David

[anandpg]

Hi Corvax! Your mesh looks fine, except for the forehead... I think the pinch is caused by the two 5-edged vertices there.. One way to avoid the pinch may be to continue those lines from the nose and eye areas upwards till the top of the forehead instead of trying to end them in a junction at the rather conspicuous spot where they are right now.. As for ears, I think it is ok to have triangles on the hidden side of the earlobe so that the lines you add to the ear dont have to radiate to the head. Great going!:thumbsup: are you going to texture it?... or maybe detail it in ZBrush or something?

[Rebeccak]

Looks like you've gotten some expert advice from anand :) - looking forward to updates!

[Corvax]

yet another head model with ear problems *sigh*:)


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/headmodel2.jpg
--David

[Rebeccak]

Impressive work! The one crit I might have is from the side view he is looking slightly horsey, but who is to say that a head should conform to some 'standard'? :) The tip of the nose seems to need a little attention, and the lower lip protrudes a bit in something of a pout - but these are extremely nitpicky comments - overall a very impressive model, hopefully some of the more 3D inclined members can give you some technical advice here. :)

[anandpg]

Hi Corvax! Nice head!... hmmm... looks like you need to scale it down quite a bit in Z axis.

[Corvax]

A study and a sketchbook drawing.:)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/statue02.jpg


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/oldLady.jpg

--David.

[Rebeccak]

Love the classical study - great sense of volume and there's enough mood there to keep me interested as well. :) Strong points are that the overall volume is very strong and confident, and the shading I don't feel is overdone.

A few minor weak points - the hands seem a touch small, but without the original it's hard to know. Would love to see a bit more turn in the transition from the upper to the lower arm. Would also love to see you work a bit on the consistency of the shading. You might try experimenting by drawing on good quality, toned paper, with black charcoal with a white charcoal or conte / nupastel for highlights as finishing touches.

Overall, a lovely drawing. Was this for a class as well? :)

Also love the cartoon, refreshing to see you display your sense of humor. :)

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY....David...:thumbsup:

GREAT TO SEE YOU IN ACTION AGAIN...:)
I like that Z BRUSH head...maybe the little fork shape on the inside of ear, should point more straight up towards the top of the ear I think..:shrug:
That figure study with the ropes around the hands...OUTSTANDING JOB:applause:
REALLY BEAUTIFUL WORK THERE ON THAT ONE...:bounce:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[rasmusW]

hey corvax!

great work you got here.
i especially like the last study of yours.
where in denmark are you studying?

ps. godt at se en anden dansker her..:)

-r

[Corvax]

hi guys, sorry for the late reply.

RK: thanks for stopping by ... Am I understating you correctly, did you just encourage a *drumroll, firework, explosions* GRAND SLAM SUPER EKSTREAM ART SUPPLY DAY!! :eek: - if so, then.. yeah I might just do that.:D

SpiritDreamer: thanks mate.:thumbsup:

Abyss103: currently I'm attending a course in foundational arts at the Glyptotek here in Copenhagen, nothing fancy.:)
and right back at ya' - always like to see more Danes, we are a rare species in the online art communities.

Here is a painting from one of Ron Eyre's great pictures. never did get around to the feet though. :shrug:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/ron01.jpg

Over and out.
--David

[Rebeccak]

LOL - indeed, I always encourage art supply days. :)

Hey this portrait of Ronnie is looking good, you ought to let him know you've done this piece (he has a Sketchbook (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=200&t=470695) of his own now). Hope to see you push the modeling and it would also be great to see more of your traditional drawings. :)

[eyrebrush]

Hey, Corvax! That's looking really good! Thank you. Rebecca just told me about it. Are you going to finish it? LOL I know feet are bloody AWFUL things to draw, especially mine! Hehe. It's looking very greyish; I feel that it could do with some richer browns here and there?

Ronnie.

[Corvax]

just playing around in ZB.:)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/zbrushing.jpg

--David.

[anandpg]

Hey David! Great to see you back, mate! thats a very nice torso!:thumbsup: the naval has gone down almost three inches, though!.. and the back could use some work.

[Corvax]

anandpg: thanks for the suggestions, but I think that for now, I'm happy if I just get anything out of ZB - still learning the app. :)


Allright so I decide to bring some order to the chaos and actually take on a larger project, instead of just sketching around, so I'm gonna try to do a Dr. Jekyll / Mr. Hyde Illustration.
I only just started today so I haven't gotten that fare,:D but I have made a few sketches trying to figure out the business and the staging.
so fare I've got the good doctor, burning himself on something in the lab, and drinking a urine sample :hmm: , I'll keep trying until something hits. :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/conpect01.jpg
.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/conpect02.jpg

--David

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...David...:thumbsup:

Don't know if this will be of any help to you with this concept, but I will throw it your way anyway..:)
In the movie version, with Spencer Tracy,...he wanted to make ALCOHOL
the DRUG that changed Dr JEKYLL into Mr HIDE...Alot can be said for that thought....rings pretty TRUE...I THINK..:)
Anyway, good luck on this concept...GREAT draftsmanship and emotion in those two shots that you just posted...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Corvax]

hi'ya glen.

yeah I guess that alcohol can bring out the Hyde in some people, at the moment I am finding the idea a little hard to implement in a illustration.
But it did spark an interesting thought.. I heard somewhere that when you consume alcohol, your brains functions shut down in the reverse order that they were evolved, essentially in the end leaving you with brain functions similar to that of a reptiles (which would be to mate, eat and fight). so maybe Hyde takes form as reptile or at least he is more animal then Jekyll.

maybe a bit extreme in this one, but it should give me a nice starting point.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/concept_hyde01_web.jpg

--David

[kary]

The ZB work seems to be coming along well to me :), and these last Hyde sketches are really solid. Definitely know whats going on, they communicate well, etc. Not sure how common this prejudice is, but I have some trouble with 'transforming' characters when their mass changes a lot. In 'earnest chemist form' he's quite thin and the monster is very hefty so the connection is a bit stretched for me. Most of the monster design could easily transition to a a lighter frame, so it's not an issue if it's something you think might be a problem.

Good stuff David :)

[rasmusW]

hey rene!

really strong sketches and great designs on those dr. jekyll and mr. hyde.
when i saw the second one, i kinda imaginged a threatning mr. hyde or his shadow in the background, with an evil grin on his face.
looking forward to see your future progress on this one.

-r

[Corvax]

...a portrait.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/kinapi_web.jpg

--David

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...David...:)

GREAT PORTRAIT...:applause: :thumbsup: ...Maybe just a tad softer along the edge of her forhead on the left side of the canvas...if you isolate that planes edge, it tends to flatten out right at it's edge, instead of having the roundness that receeds in space under her hair...just a minor detail and crit..:) ...REALLY NICE ONE..David..KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK ..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[anandpg]

AAW! She is sweet!!

[Corvax]

two life drawings from class.
enjoy.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week3_web.jpg


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week3_web2.jpg


-David Rene

[Corvax]

more life drawings from class.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week4_web1.jpg


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week4_web2.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week5_web1.jpg

[NR43]

beautiful work.
how long were the poses and at which size are the drawings?

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY ..David..GREAT to see these life drawings from your clsss..Stronge technique and solid draftsmanship shining through in them...That last one ..WOW, ...Beautiful job there...:thumbsup: ....MORE..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[rasmusW]

hye david!

-like the other's said. beautiful wok.
think i've said it before, but your shadow/hatching is just great.

btw. how's it going withyour jekyll/hyde pict?

-r

[anandpg]

Wow, David!! beautiful drawings, all of them!!!:bounce:

[Cyanid]

great stuff! those lifedrawings are kick-ass.
nice values on the portrait.

[Corvax]

NR43:thanks mate. The three sitting poses are all three hour studies, The standing one are six hours for the male and eight for the female one. all of then a A2 size drawings.

rasmusW: thanks to you too. they are kinda keeping us busy at school, so the jekyll / hyde project is kinda on hold.

SpiritDreamer, anandpg and Cyanid: thanks a lot guys.

okay some more drawings:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week6_web1.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/week6_web2.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Hey David,

Really loving your latest drawings - great sense of tonality and volume, these are real stunners! :) One crit I would have on the last drawing is that the rib cage seems to lose a bit of the sense of roundness / volume as it relates to the whole figure - it seems a little isolated, or to lose a bit of the gesture. Perhaps it's too cadaverish. :) But overall it's really great to see your progress, and I look forward to more.

[anandpg]

Hey David!... great stuff you're churning out these days, mate!:thumbsup:.... keep 'em coming!!:scream:

[NR43]

I love the shading on that kettle... it actually looks like metal

[Corvax]

Here is a sea creature illustration I've been working on in my spare time.


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/seacreature_web.jpg


I'll reply to the comments, when I post some more of my traditional work - hopefully tomorrow.

--Cheers Diva D

[anandpg]

OMG!!! :eek: This is awesome!!... you are really working on your 2d, uh?:bounce: keep it up man!!!:thumbsup:

[MechaHateChimp]

I had to post... you just won me over with that sea creature illustration... wonderful work. Consider me a fan :thumbsup:

[Intervain]

wow impressive! I love the sea creature :bounce:

[Corvax]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/croco02.jpg

-cheers David Rene

[Eiki]

haha, that's sweet! :p

Those last ilustrations are awesome!!

[Corvax]

thanks bapka :), here's another one:


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/monkey.jpg

--cheers David.

[lilirious]

duude! Your thread just blew me away!! :D

very inspiring! :D

[-voraz-]

Hi David, great sketchbook.
I really love those last animal illustrations. They look fabulous, especially the one with the crocodile, love the colours and the painting style.
keep it up!

[Corvax]

elnaz and voraz, thanks alot guys :)

and heres one more, this one is abit more boring. :shrug:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/lion.jpg

--cheers David

[Rebeccak]

Love these latest characters, how's the drawing program going? :)

[JM-art]

Amazing thread Corvax, i´m not only enjoyng it but learning a lot of anatomy from your life draws. The concepts of the animals are beatifull, and very uniques....realy inspiring stuff.

cheers.

[anandpg]

WOW, David..! Awesome stuff.. !:thumbsup: really love your painting style and colors!

[Corvax]

RebbecaK: glad you like the character paintings.
I'm out of the drawing program now, and I've been at an artist residence at the school, working on my portfolio for the last three months or so. I still go to gesture drawing class on occasion, but other then that I don't get to do a lot of life drawing these days.

JMART and anandpg: I'm glad you guys liked my stuff.

Okay here are some skulls.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/skulls_compt.jpg

cheers David.

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY ..David..:)

GREAT job on those skulls...:thumbsup: ...I like all of those latest character concepts..:) ...Your draftsmanship just keeps getting better...A great thing to see happening...:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[anandpg]

Awesome!!..:buttrock: Seriously, David.. you've been acquiring some formidable skills!!

[Rebeccak]

David, would you mind if I linked your skull images on my teaching blog (Mirrorbooks) as examples for my students? Credit would be given to you of course. :)

[Corvax]

RK: Sure go ahead :)

gesture drawing.. SO not my discipline :p

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/croqius.jpg

cheers David

[SylvanMist]

Hi, wow your work is great! I love your color illustrations on page 25..the colors are great and there's so much depth to them, how'd you do that!?! :drool:
Nice skull and gesture sketches too!

[Rebeccak]

Thanks David, I've posted your drawings here (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/). I actually really like your gesture drawings. A great book on gestures is by Karl Gnass (http://spirit-of-the-pose.com/product_page.html), it's basically filled with his work and is a great resource (I've not seen another gesture book like it).

[Corvax]

fun with monsters:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/creature-web.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/creature2-web.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/creature3-web.jpg

and a wip of "The Burger King":

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/burger_king5-web.jpg

cheers David :)

[Rebeccak]

Hehe, these are great! :) Love the development on the Burger King, hope to see that one finished.

[Intervain]

those are just awesome - especially love the bespectacled critter :)

[Corvax]

thanks guys - more monster fun:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-web.jpg

--David.

[anandpg]

WOW! Awesome paintings, David!!:thumbsup:

[Corvax]

thanks anandpg

last update tonight:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-web2.jpg

--David

[JM-art]

Wow, those monster are amazing( the second one the best for me ). Great style and design....cool..COOL:bowdown: .


Keep inspiring us:thumbsup: .

Cheers.

[Corvax]

Okay so this here's today's update.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-web3.jpg

- David.

[alenah]

.. what a great staff here!
hi david, great sketches - and I love your monsters illustrations!
really good skills - pleasure to look at :)
a.

[Intervain]

damn fine speciment :D Love your work!:buttrock:

[magtataho]

Gorgeous sunrise monster!! Other than the wonderful painterly look that I already love, I really like the way you shaded the toes on his right foot. I'm not sure why.

How long do you work on the typical piece every day?

[nmcelmury]

Wow very nice! I like that style, sketchy yet still polished almost. Keep up the great work!

[Corvax]

thanks for the kind replies everyone.:)

magtataho: it all depends on my schedule, but normally I can squeeze two or three hours a day to paint on my own stuff.

I didn't have too much time to paint today so I'll post a quick sketch and a shot of some of the details on the face and upper body of the monster painting.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/uhlala.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-detail-1-web.jpg


--David.

[Eiki]

wow!
great new stuff here! very inspiring work again and again :thumbsup:

[Corvax]

I still don't have a whole lot of time to paint.. but I did managed to put in and hour or so today - not a major update but this part of the rendering is always kind of slow, I should be able to finish this one up this weekend thou.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-web4.jpg

-David

[Kanga]

Lovely paintings. I like the coloured drawings very much,... a little Albrecht Durer,... one of my favorites :cool:
Kewl

Cheerio Chris

[Deepam]

Great character studies . . . I like this last one very much, can't wait to see this finished. :bounce:

[Corvax]

I didn't quite make my deadline of this weekend .. but here is the final result - so fare, I'll revisit it for revisions in a week or so - hope you like it :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/franky-web5.jpg

--David

[sycen]

Wow! A well done character and great painting. :thumbsup:

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