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JoshT
11-13-2005, 12:15 AM
Hi. I've really got into drawing within the last few months. I'm starting to get into the anatomy of the human figure. I've never really worked at drawing before unless for a school art project, so thanks ahead for all critique/suggestions on anatomy, proportions and art technique. I'll be sure to post any future drawings and work. :)

Here are a couple drawings I made within the last couple of days. Both are of myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/foot1sketch.jpg

I realized afterwords how unproportional the toes were with relation to each other (especially the second toe from the left).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/hand1sketch.jpg

Rebeccak
11-13-2005, 12:28 AM
JoshT,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum! :) It's always nice to see high school students take an interest in the study of Anatomy. I think the earlier one starts, the better. Your studies are quite nice, despite having a few proportional problems. This is to be expected at first. It just takes study and practice to overcome them. Your shading technique is quite nice. I can definitely see that you are closely observing the subject, which is the key bit to drawing.

There are several threads which I think you would enjoy checking out:

Shading Tutorial - Pencils (in the Anatomy Thread of Slux) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480&page=3&pp=15)

Anatomy Thread of raptor|3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=289555)

TUTORIAL - Shading Techniques (Various Media) - by Rebeccak (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928)

BEGINNERS' Drawing Workshop - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain - With Margie (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026)

Open Figure Drawing Workshops
Most Recent: (new one posted every 2 weeks)
NOW OPEN!!! OPEN FIGURE DRAWING WORKSHOP 006 with Ron Eyre and Rebecca Kimmel!! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=286293)

The best of the Anatomy Forum can be found here:

Tutorials, Workshops, Anatomy Reviews & More ... [links within] (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525)

I must warn you that the Open Figure Drawing Workshops in particular contain photographs of nude models. I think a high school student is old enough to handle this, but just be advised that nearly all of the Anatomy Forum threads contain what may be considered to be sensitive content.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work! Definitely post updates as you complete your school assignments, or as you work independently on your own projects.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
11-13-2005, 12:50 AM
:) Much thanks for giving me some direction with those thread links. I'll be sure to go through them all.

Rebeccak
11-13-2005, 12:52 AM
No prob. ;)

Cheers! :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
11-15-2005, 02:18 AM
I drew this from a photo in the book "Anatomy for the Artist", which I bought a month or two back. I don't think I've done enough with it yet. I plan on creating a drawing of a human skull from this at the same angle of perspective. I'm not too sure how I should go about approaching this yet, so I'll study more photos. Thanks for any suggestions on how to approach this project or on this drawing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/face1sketchrefd.jpg

Rebeccak
11-15-2005, 07:18 AM
JoshT,

This is an impressive drawing, and I think your idea of doing a view of the skull in the same position / from the same angle is an excellent one. Look forward to your results!

What I particularly like about this piece is the fact that it nearly looks as though it were drawn from life. Are you familiar with the artist Andrew Wyeth? You should check out his work.

Looking forward to seeing your skeletal pieces!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
11-18-2005, 11:10 PM
Well, I had some time to get back to this again yesterday. I learned a bunch from some sketches of skulls, but I'm still having much trouble. So, here's a rough outline, probably too many problems to start shading it in yet. Maybe you guys could see what's wrong with it much easier than I can :) .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/skull2sketchb.jpg

PS. Rebeccak, I have been checking out a bunch of Andrew Wyeth's work :).

Rebeccak
11-18-2005, 11:28 PM
JoshT,

Just a quick post before I try to grab some dinner...:) ~ Wow, cool to hear you have been looking at Wyeth! It really shows! :)

The skull does have some problems. Not enough time atm to go into it, but will a bit later. Great to see your additional work. I would recommend this site:

Gray's Anatomy Online: (http://www.bartleby.com/107/)
http://www.bartleby.com/107/

GREAT Reference from which to draw! Check out the skulls there. :)

Mo' later. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
11-20-2005, 01:06 AM
Wow, great links. Thanks. Hmmmm, some quicker drawings I did a few days ago of the skull from "Anatomy for the Artist"...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/skull1sketchrefd.jpg

...and a drawing I did today using an image from Gray's Anatomy Online. (http://www.bartleby.com/107/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/skull2refd.jpg

I'm slowly gaining some understanding of the skull, and hopefully will be able to draw it better without references soon.

Rebeccak
11-20-2005, 04:36 AM
JoshT,

Wow, that last drawing in particular is quite nice! :thumbsup: I would recommend drawing as many of these types of drawings as you can ~ they're the best way to understand structure and form. Look for side and rotated views of the skull ~ I would recommend investing in a few key Anatomy Books if you can. They're well worth the money!

Check out the Anatomy Resources : BOOKS sticky thread at the top of the forum if you have not already. :) There are several gems listed there, any of which I highly recommend.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
11-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Ah, I decided to get some money together and buy a couple books. Well anyways, a side view of the skull. Image reference from Gray's Anatomy Online. (http://www.bartleby.com/107/) Now I think I'll attempt to do a whole bunch of loose sketches of the skull at various angles and perspective. Some referenced, some not. I'll post more skulls if I see any fit for posting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/skull3refd.jpg

Rebeccak
11-23-2005, 12:07 AM
JoshT,

Beautiful work here! :) The proportion of the lower jaw seems a bit large with respect to the upper portion of the skull, but overall this is a very nice drawing. :thumbsup:

One thing I would recommend with respect to shading technique is to check out this little demo ~ not perfect, mind you ~ of using the point of your pencil, rather than the side, to shade:

(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928)TUTORIAL - Shading Techniques (Various Media) - by Rebeccak (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928)

Basically, I think that if you draw with the tip of the pencil which is always kept sharp, then you will have more control over the range of values and the look of the shading in your drawing. This is just a recommendation. :) One has to find what's right for them, and you are certainly doing a beautiful job here. :)

Look forward to seeing more studies!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
12-01-2005, 04:18 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/hand2sketch.jpg

Well, I got a little bored of drawing skulls, so I decided to go back to a hand study :). Ah, RebeccaK, I have a little drawing with the tip of the pencil, but I really should try doing a full drawing just that way once to see how I do. Anyways, I just recieved "albinus on anatomy", and "master class in figure drawing", so I should get started on going through those when I have free time.

Rebeccak
12-01-2005, 04:28 AM
Anyways, I just recieved "albinus on anatomy", and "master class in figure drawing", so I should get started on going through those when I have free time.

Sweet! :thumbsup: Let me know what you think of the books! Definitely look forward to your posts! :)

With respect to the hand, I think you've observed particularly well around the area of the wrist. The hand could use a bit of work to bring it up to that level, but you've got a good start here! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
12-08-2005, 12:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/bodysketch1.jpg

Well, here's my latest drawing. All critique is welcome :) . I've been getting through 'Master Class in Figure Drawing' very slowly. I find it great so far; very helpful. I'll keep posting when ever I have more time to draw.

PS. I get the feeling my shading technique isn't too great, so I think I'll try to focus on that a bit more. I havn't had the time to work on changing it too much.

Rebeccak
12-09-2005, 09:48 PM
JoshT,

Good to see you back, and I quite like this piece so far ~ any plans on finishing it? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
12-13-2005, 12:13 AM
Ah, I havn't had much time to draw lately, so chances are I probably won't go back to this drawing. There were some mistakes I realized too late, and by now, I don't feel much ambition to finish it. But who knows? :)

SpiritDreamer
12-13-2005, 03:20 AM
Hi
Josh
You might try buying a plastic skull, they make real looking ones now, and they are not
too expensive. I find that if I can feel the object I am drawing, I get a better image of
it in my mind, when I draw it. I bought mine in a joke shop. I think art stores carry them
too. I like that face you did, the quality of the line around the eyes is nice, thought it
was a self portrait when I saw it.... KEEP DRAWING, and POSTING.
Take Care
Glenn

JoshT
12-15-2005, 09:09 PM
Ah, I've thought of buying a skull, but I'm still not too sure, especially with christmas holidays coming soon :).

Well, here's another bone study, done from 'Albinus on Anatomy'. It was done with a 2B pencil.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/spine1sketchrefd.jpg

JoshT
01-20-2006, 03:35 AM
It's been a while since I've posted. Holidays and what not led to a decrease in drawing. Anyways, here's another anatomic study/copy, done from 'Albinus on Anatomy'. I decided however, to omit the casted shadow. I'm sort of eager to get onto a new drawing. Anyways, any critique and suggestions are appreciated.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/footrefd2.jpg

Rebeccak
01-22-2006, 05:42 PM
JoshT,

Yeek, in the flurry of posts lately, I think I missed yours...:D...but I have to say that this piece, like most of your other work, is really refined, definitely nice work! What are your plans in terms of school? I think I remember your saying you're a high school student? (If my memory's correct, then that's amazing!) Your talents are obviously worth pursuing to a higher degree, so I was just curious as to what you had in mind.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
01-24-2006, 04:31 AM
Rebeccak,

I'm in (what's suppose to be) my final year of high school. I'm taking grade 11 art this year however, and coming back next year for a semester to finally grab my grade 12 art, and perhaps work on getting higher marks in a couple classes. It will also give me time to create an art portfolio and increase my skills. I'm quite possibly hoping to pursue 3d animation (or something along those lines), somewhere in Ontario, Canada. However, I may take a one year art program beforehand for some more knowledge, guidance and to perhaps create a much better portfolio.


Well, here's a picture I drew today, trying to get a grasp of 8 head tall proportions of a man. I referred to Figurative Drawing for All That It's Worth, and Anatomy for the Artist for general proportions. Unfortunately, I messed up a little and he kind of came out as a pinhead. Anyways, all critique, and suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/manproportions.jpg

Rebeccak
01-26-2006, 01:28 AM
Josh T,

Wow, it's hard to believe that you're still in high school ~ it's really fantastic that already you have such a high degree of talent! :arteest:By the way, you should check out Icey's Anatomy Thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2967040#post2967040), as I think you might quite like his work. :)

I think that this latest drawing is not necessarily your best, but I'm not criticizing ~ I would recommend trying several of these kinds of proportional drawings, and maybe starting out a bit looser at the beginning. Really, what I am trying to push on these forums is that it's not so much about critique of individual pieces, as it is about doing a lot of work ~ it's the only way to get better.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
01-29-2006, 02:57 AM
Thanks for pointing out that thread Rebecca K. I have to be sure to check out more peoples work more often. :) Anyways, the next couple days I have to study and write my first term exams. After that I'll have a week off. I plan to spend any time at home drawing alot of loose sketches and try to lock some proportions down. I spent pretty much all of today drawing this, so ummm, all and any opinions and suggestions are great.

Done from a photo in 'Anatomy for the Artist'.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/muscleman.jpg

SpiritDreamer
01-29-2006, 03:16 AM
Hi...Joshua...:)

WOW!! ..nice one...good rendering ect. but Rebecca is right about doing a lot of studies.
The more you do, the less you will have to rely on photo's...do a lot of quick gestures
of people in different places and situations ect...that's the way to really learn to do
figures....use photo's, don't be used by them.....post more....:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
01-29-2006, 03:23 AM
JoshT,

Wow, this is a really beautiful piece! What so impresses me about your work is the fact that you already seem to have your own style ~ a really advanced one at that ~ if you told me you were 35 years old, I would completely believe you! :)

There is definitely a quality of thoughfulness to your work which I think is quite resonant. Do you do any painting? It would be interesting to see how you would approach that as well, though I think you're smart (and right) to explore drawing so thoroughly.

I don't know if I've mentioned this, but a book which I think you might quite like is:

The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing: A Contemporary Perspective on the Classical Tradition (Paperback) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823003035/qid=1138507481/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8685283-6121526?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)
Ryder's a really amazing traditional artist whose work I think you would quite like.

With respect to your drawing, the only thing that strikes me as a bit odd are the two marks near the model's right elbow ~ without those, I think his arm would look more resolved. But that's a minor thing ~ overall, this piece is really beautiful, and it's great to see. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Lyneran
01-29-2006, 08:17 AM
hi there! that last study of yours is excellent! :) i really like your shading hope to see more studies :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
03-01-2006, 08:43 PM
If you haven't already, you should totally join the Challenge!

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/enter.php

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JoshT
03-12-2006, 04:09 PM
Okay wow, sorry for being so inactive. Well, thanks for all the replys and responses. I've been really busy the last couple months with school work, sports, etc.

RebeccaK- Thanks for pointing out that book for me. It looks very interesting, I just got myself a job, so hopefully I'll be able to buy some more resources :).

Spirit Dreamer - I have however been doing lots of sketches, quick studies etc. over the last month or two. I'll probably start posting some soon.

Lyneran - Thank you :).




The latest thing I've done, during the last week during some free time was a drawing from an image from Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 008 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2859219#post2859219).
MODEL PHOTOGRAP 2 ~ Female, Nude (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20008/OFDW_008_pose_02.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/femphotorefd1.jpg

I feel I have great trouble with facial and head proportions, so I'll probably go back to learning more about the skull, and hopefully learn about facial muscles and such.

Rebeccak
03-12-2006, 04:18 PM
JoshT,

That's a beautiful study! Congrats on the job, lol, I think most of my money goes towards books. :D

Good to see you back ~ looking forward to seeing more studies. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

erilaz
03-14-2006, 12:38 PM
Such lovely shading eye-candy. Very delicious.

You have a very delicate eye for light. I'll be looking forward to more of these.

LoTekK
03-14-2006, 01:56 PM
Wow. Beautiful shading; you capture the light perfectly. :thumbsup:

JoshT
03-15-2006, 02:55 AM
Thanks everyone. Well, I've seen a couple threads with people studying facial features and such, so I felt a little inspired to start doing so myself. It's nothing special, but I felt like posting anyways.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/nosestudy.jpg

erilaz
03-15-2006, 06:39 AM
Ha! i haven't done nose studies yet! Thanks for reminding me! These look great. It's usually better if you define the side curve of the nose with shading rather than lines though. I'm guilty of that myself!

JoshT
04-16-2006, 03:23 AM
Well, most stuff I've been doing has been for art class, and I havn't had a chance to scan any of that, but here's some of the stuff i've done in between projects.


Practicing lighting with a manakin I recently bought...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/manakin.jpg


Ummm a somewhat quick master copy, turned out somewhat different looking than the original :\
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/quickmaster.jpg



And a little portrait I did during my free time tonight...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/charcoalportrait.jpg

Nothing of mine is quite right... but I'm starting to feel like I'm actually starting to draw (create my own forms etc.) , slowly... however, I think I will spend a period of time doing many master copies soon, and just exploring simple objects in various lighting. Then hopefully I can start to move on a little further :).

All critique and suggestions for improvement are GREATLY appreciated.

Rebeccak
04-16-2006, 02:50 PM
JoshT,

Some really solid work here, especially the Master Copy! I really like the way that you are defining the masses there, it really has a sense of the person. The mannekin study is quite nice, and a totally different approach ~ really lovely shading there. I think with your self~portrait, the right forearm appears to be a little off ~ the main thing I would suggest is to block things in a bit more loosely before going in to render. A book I think you might really enjoy is:

The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing: A Contemporary Perspective on the Classical Tradition (Paperback) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823003035/sr=8-1/qid=1145198941/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5894134-8655801?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
by Anthony Ryder

It details a really simple approach to drawing that is really methodical ~ and his drawings are just amazing. Something I think you'd really enjoy, and the book is not terribly expensive.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

depleteD
04-16-2006, 10:45 PM
Wow man you are outta control. Still in highschool too. Dood, you are gonna be a force, where and are u plannin on takeing higher education?

-Andrew

JoshT
04-20-2006, 03:11 AM
Rebecca K. - thanks for the input :). I actually plan on buying a couple books off of amazon this week when I have time to make the order. Thanks for the suggestion, I plan on checking it out.

depleteD - I'm actually considering that some more now... I will be going to college in Ontario sometime in a couple years. I hope to end up in animation or something along those lines... still alot of work to do first :).

JoshT
07-03-2006, 05:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/angelstatue.jpg

Well, it's been quite a while since I've posted anything. Perhaps not drawing as much as I'd like. I'm without a scanner at the moment (using a friends). So anyways, here's my first drawing since my school was let out, I'll be sure to posting alot more. I think it may be an ash tray.

Rebeccak
07-03-2006, 05:42 PM
JoshT,

Welcome back! :) You should definitely participate in the current Workshop if you can:

Anatomy Lesson Series: Body Part 1 - The Head (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=375031&page=1&pp=15)

A great opportunity to get a lot of practice in a group setting. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
07-04-2006, 05:14 AM
Head 01/50

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/workshopface001.jpg

Graphite

Reference Photo (http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/00_Anatomy%20Lesson%20Series/Web%20Gallery%20of%20Art%20Images/022.jpg)

Anatomy Lesson Series: Body Part 1: The Head (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=375031&page=1&pp=15)

All C&C more than welcome :).

Rebeccak
07-04-2006, 08:50 AM
JoshT,

Nice to see you in this, :) I think the main thing I would advise is to always watch that central axis. The nose, lips, and chin seem misaligned, which is throwing off the lower half of the face. The upper half of the head seems quite well aligned, which is making it work better by comparison. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
07-07-2006, 07:05 PM
Rebeccak - I'll try my best to watch for that :).


02/50

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/wokrshopface002.jpg


I seem to have alot of difficulty with hair...

Reference Photo (http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/00_Anatomy%20Lesson%20Series/Web%20Gallery%20of%20Art%20Images/065.jpg)

argonaut
07-07-2006, 07:53 PM
wow dude, this is really great work, what are you using, smudged pencil? Good luck at college!

SpiritDreamer
07-07-2006, 07:58 PM
Hi....Joshua....:thumbsup:

I really like that last one....lot of energy happening...captured the expression perfectly...:applause:

Maybe the part where his ear goes could have more information their...kind of looks empty
compared to the rest of the drawing.
On the far side of face....would like to see the eyebrows extend out past the edge of the brow, to match the eyebrows on the near side of the face.

REALLY NICE ONE....KEEP POSTING....:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
07-12-2006, 02:13 AM
argonaut - Thanks. Yep, smudged pencil.
SpiritDreamer - Thanks again, especially on the advice of the facial features.


Anyways, here's latest. I probably should of worked longer on it, and payed more attention. Fairly disproportional to reference photo. C&C welcome.

03/50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/wokrshopface003.jpg

Graphite

Reference Photo (http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/00_Anatomy%20Lesson%20Series/Web%20Gallery%20of%20Art%20Images/058.jpg)

JoshT
07-16-2006, 11:08 PM
A quick cloth study in attempt to model lighting. I really enjoyed doing this. I think I will do more cloth studies. I plan on doing a more elaborate complete one. It seems to be great practice for rendering form. All C&C are more than welcome. I'll be posting more soon.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/clothstudy.jpg

Graphite

Rebeccak
07-17-2006, 08:37 PM
JoshT,

Great to see your participation in the Portraits Workshop ~ really looking forward to your updates. :)

Sometime in the future I'd like to run a cloth Workshop, but don't know exactly when.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

JoshT
08-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Master Copy Study

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/michelquickstudy.jpg

Reference Photo (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12179)

Lute
08-01-2006, 09:51 PM
oooh, what is it referenced from? You should post the reference right along side with it. *smiles* So how long did it take you to create it?

Intervain
08-01-2006, 10:40 PM
woah JoshT, can't believe I've missed that thread before now :bounce: great drawings:thumbsup:

JoshT
08-01-2006, 11:10 PM
Lute - I have a hyperlink right below it to the reference :). I probably should use photoshop and put the reference resized next to it next time. Ummmm, I'm not sure how long on this one. I find I take a long time on all my drawings. Probably 1h+. I spend most of the time on this one to attempt getting proper proportions, while the shading was loose and perhaps rushed. From now on I think I'll keep track of time better to help log my drawings.

Intervain - Thank you.

Cris-Palomino
08-02-2006, 12:44 AM
I really love the old man on the previous page...great work...I look forward to more.

Cris

JoshT
08-10-2006, 07:47 AM
Cris - Thanks :).

Anyways, still struggling hard with it, but here's some face work...done from photos of sculptures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/sculpturefaces.jpg

References
http://www.gandygallery.com/art/Masters/Diakono/Images/Giovanni_Chiaramonti.jpg
http://www.gandygallery.com/art/Masters/Diakono/Images/Woman.jpg

SpiritDreamer
08-10-2006, 09:13 AM
Hi..... Joshua...:thumbsup:
Nice job on that Michelangelo drawing....like the way you handled the shoulder muscles....:applause:
Last two faces are looking good also...:thumbsup:
Really like your study of cloth, and the effects of light and shadow on it....that's a great exercise to practice, and will pay off big time ....I have a manaquin's head, that I wrap cloth around, to get different folds set up ect....then I take and spotlight it, to study the shadows
ect....always trying out different types of cloth....silk, wool, cotton ect.....each acts and reacts differently to the light, and it is alwats a challenge to recreat accuratly what type of cloth it is.
Burne Hogarth has a book called...Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery, that you might be interested in , and will find very usefull, when doing studies of cloth, as it applies to the human figure.
GREAT BOOK...:)
Well ...keep up the hard work,...your thread is showing...GREAT PROGRESS...:applause: :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
08-13-2006, 05:04 AM
SpiritDreamer - Thanks a ton for the info :) . I think I might pick up a bunch of suggested books on my next paycheck :D. On a side note, my house has poor lighting. Any suggestion for cheap personal "studio" lighting? to help my drawing. If ANYONE can respond to this that'd be great. After posting this, I'll go hunting for some information on it. May have to edit this out after :).


Some quick contour stuff from the 15 minute sketchathon...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/contourwork.jpg

And... my latest head study...been working on contour first, then proceeding to proportion the smaller features. Seems to work better than the opposite for me. Been trying to spit out one a day during spare time. Anyways, eyes seem a little lower than the reference. C&C greatly appreciated.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/head3-1.jpg


http://www.gandygallery.com/art/Masters/Diakono/Images/Van_Gogh.jpg
Reference photo from
http://www.gandygallery.com/art/Masters/Diakono/index.htm

NR43
08-13-2006, 09:10 AM
JoshT

Love your work. You got a nice n clean shading style.
I think in oyur last head study the main problem is his right eye being positioned a bit lower than his left, causing the same 'lowered look' for the features below the eyes.

Really great stuff here I'm eager to follow up and learn from your work

grtz,
NR43

SpiritDreamer
08-13-2006, 12:02 PM
Hi....Joshua...:)

There are a lot of great lights out there nowdays...I like the kind that has a long skinny neck
that swivels, and clampes to whatever you want it to be clamped to...has a hooded lightbulb at the end of neck....can be aimed to spotlight an object, from any angle . When brought in close to object, it creates dramatic lights and shadows....works best, when used in the dark.
I have another spotlight shining on my canvas, paper, or whatever, so I can see what I am doing ...Those lights are cheaply priced, and can be found at any building supply, office supply,
or lamp shop....of course there are always candles,...but then you have that fire hazard involved.
You want to use the same princaples that a photographer uses, when spotlighting the subject.
Use the light to creat the mood, and enhance the subject...in the same manner as the old
black and white movies did.The movie studios used to hire people who learned thier lighting techniques from the old painting masters from centuries before...a bit of interesting trivia there...:)
Also , a GREAT BOOK to learn the princaples of all the various kinds of lighting and shading is
....DYNAMIC LIGHT AND SHADE...by Burne Hogarth

I think you shoud try to bring your portraits, ect. ...out of the darkness, and into the light,using the princaple of spotlighting
which is the same princaple applied to that photo refference of the bust that you just posted....that princaple is what adds to the beauty, drama, mystery...ect.....:)

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR GREAT STUDIES...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
08-18-2006, 06:07 AM
SpiritDreamer - Once again, thanks a ton :applause:. When I get back home in a week or so I'm going to see what I can do about some spot-lighting.

NR43 - Yah, on a look after reading what you said, I definately believe you to be right. I'll try to be more careful for such easily corrected mistakes next time. Thanks :).

Anyways, some latest stuff...


15 Minute Sketchathon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/15minutes.jpg



Study done from my new favourite learning tool (http://www.reybustos.com/03ra/ra.html).
I found the site in this thread... http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257570

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso1.jpg

Mu
08-18-2006, 08:10 AM
Hi,


I think I never took the time to reply in here..

wonderful drawings! I, like practically everyone else in here, totally love the way you shade. Very subtle, accurate and light.

the michelangelo copy is impressive.

:bowdown:

NR43
08-18-2006, 10:03 AM
I love your last torso study

And thanks for the link to the reybustos site! It's awesome. I'm at work now but I'll definetely check it out more profound tonight

grtz,
43

JoshT
08-18-2006, 09:10 PM
Mu/NR43 - :)



Another torso study with the use of http://www.reybustos.com/03ra/ra.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso2.jpg

JoshT
08-26-2006, 01:08 AM
Use of www.reybustos.com (http://www.reybustos.com)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/legstudy1-1.jpg


And if anyone could help my perspective problem :):scream:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=397605

JoshT
09-05-2006, 06:44 PM
Just got my scanner up and running back again at home, so I'll just post yesterdays drawing. Alot of stuff seems to get smudged in my sketchbook.

04/50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/head04.jpg

NR43
09-05-2006, 06:58 PM
04/50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/head04.jpg

just came from my very first drawing class and I saw one there woohoo... I think I'll be drawing him a lot in the future. We'll be doing heads a whole year at school lol

Anyway, your interpretation is really nice mister!
love it!

JoshT
09-20-2006, 07:13 PM
NR43 - Thanks for the comment. Looking forward to seeing your progress as you do your class.


Learning more leg anatomy... Thanks to the books of Andrew Loomis found at www.fineart.sk (http://www.fineart.sk)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/leganat.jpg

JoshT
09-23-2006, 11:38 PM
Well, first time in a while where I really practiced my shading. Really made me realize alot of things I am doing wrong. This drawing isn't of the human figure, but, the same techniques to drawing the figure apply (right?), so I think I'll use this post to try some self analysis....
Drawing was done using some very affordable lamps I bought recently.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/waterpot.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/waterpotcloseup.jpg

- Shading needs more unity in pencil strokes.
- Must stop being afraid of using higher contrast; needs a wider range of values.
- Need to draw more basic tones at first (planes of the object) and work detail up slowly as I work.
-I seem to have troubles shading large areas a similar tone (I have trouble shading nicely with large strokes).

Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Must go draw more.

JoshT
09-24-2006, 05:12 AM
Torso 1/50

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso1-1.jpg

Cris-Palomino
09-24-2006, 06:04 AM
There's a wonderful delicacy and old-world feel to these last sketches, Josh. I also love the latest head you did.

It's good to look at your work and figure out what you want to work on, but I certainly would discount anything you've done. There is some very nice work here.

Cris

JoshT
09-24-2006, 07:30 PM
Cris-Palomino - Thanks for the inspiring words.

Torso 2/50
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso2-1.jpg

JoshT
09-26-2006, 04:31 AM
Torso 3/50

Another Caravaggio copy like the second.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso3.jpg

Rebeccak
09-26-2006, 05:56 AM
JoshT,

I have to say your latest pencil sketches are looking really beautiful. The drawing of the pitcher is really quite moving. Please keep up the good work. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

JoshT
09-28-2006, 01:28 AM
Rebecca - Thanks for stopping in still, especially considering all the other people you continuously keep an eye on. Thanks a ton.

Torso 4/50

A Michelangelo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso4.jpg

JoshT
09-28-2006, 08:18 PM
Torso 5/50

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso5.jpg

piccolabella
10-03-2006, 06:35 PM
wow, your torsos are really impressive, so much detail and accuracy.

SpiritDreamer
10-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Hi....Joshua...:thumbsup:

Looks like you are putting a whole lot of effort into those renderings....great way to learn to see...slow, but sure...:thumbsup:
I have not rendered in pencil in years, but I can give you a few tips on how it is done. Hardly ever see it done corectly anymore....lot of work, and everyone is to sped up in this modern age I think...:scream:
The way I was taught, is to use a mechanical pencil, and a full range of leads, to get the full range of VALUES. from the hardest
hards, to the softest softs....get a strip of sandpaper, fold it in half, place between your first two fingers and your thumb. Put the lead in the pencil so that it extends out about four inches.
Put the tip of the lead between the fine sandpaper, and push the lead in and out, rotateing it so as to get a very sharp long rounded neddle point.....You have to do this continuosly while rendering, to keep the point sharp, and to get a fine render,
The idea, is to prick the paper wit just the tip of the needle point,,,NEVER the side of the point, just the point itself.
Use the hardest leads for your lighter areas, and the softer leads for your darker areas, creating gradual gradations as you go along...no strokes involved in this process, just tedious filling in of space...like every pore of the paper, with a pen prick...:scream: :)
Most of the old masters drawings using this technique were very very small.
If it is done right, there is no pressure applied to the pencil, ..the wieght of the pencil, and the fineness of the point , creat a beautiful effect all on thier own,..that, and a very study hand, and a good set of eyes...:)
This technique produces some of the finest drawing you will ever see...small, but fine, and
they can only be gotten by that technique...no shortcut to that quality.
Real pleasure to see your HARD WORK and GREAT progress.

TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
10-07-2006, 12:45 AM
Sorry it seems it's been a while since I've posted. I've been working at my portfolio for college.

piccolabella - Thanks, but I still got a long ways to go to get where I want :eek: :D.

SpiritDreamer - Thanks alot for the tutorial Glenn. I definately have to go buy those materials next time I go to the art shop. Much appreciated.

Torso 6/50
Here's one I did tonight. Didn't obsess too much on this study.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/torso6smallb.jpg

Rubens figures almost seem fluid to me. He has a pretty cool style. I think I'll do more studies from his works.

JoshT
10-11-2006, 08:51 PM
Unfinished hand in graphite. I probably won't finish this. I originally intended to. I didn't take an enjoyable approach to it, and I'd much rather move onto other things. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/handlarge.jpg

If anyone's interested, a still life I did as well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/objectdrawing1small.jpg

JoshT
10-14-2006, 09:48 PM
Just some quick drawings/sketches I've done lately.


Copy of Maureen Hyde
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/lmcopy1.jpg

Copy of Anthony Ryder
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/lmcopy2.jpg

Copy of Anthony Ryder
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/lmcopy3.jpg

Cris-Palomino
10-14-2006, 09:52 PM
Joshua, I am really loving your pencils. Keep it up.

Cris

JoshT
10-22-2006, 05:55 AM
Cris-Palomino - Thank you for the supportive feedback.



Anyways, here's an attempt at a hand with gestural line. After the scan I lost the lightest of the fine line, but that's alright. I think I have to thicken all of the line and exagerrate it more, yes? Any input on how to improve in this sort of style would be greatly appreciated. Also, does anyone believe it would be more or less effective to describe smaller details in this, such as more flaps of skin, tendons going through the back of the hand, etc? Thanks for anything on this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/handlineartsmall.jpg

Cris-Palomino
10-22-2006, 06:21 AM
I love hands and feet and yet have a devil of a time with them. Here are a few things to look at:

http://www.anticz.com/handtut.htm

http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=14 for Drawing the Head and Hands.

Cris

NR43
10-22-2006, 07:23 AM
Hi Joshua

I haven't reached the point in my own learning plan to study hands profoundly, but what could help building up your confidence - and this actually works for everything, not just hands - is doing some fast gestural sketches after eachother to get you "in your subject" and then continue the momentum on a slower, more detailed study.
Only saying this because it looks like you have spent quite some time on it but you seem still a bit unsure of the result.

Personally, I think they look great, the lines. The thumb seems a bit skinny compared to the other fingers, but that may be because it's a line drawing.
Shading it would definetly give the hand volume and make the different hand parts easier to read.

Really looking forward to see more of this

edit:
forgot to mention... this changing drawing pace works the other way around too. Sometimes one can spend hours on a drawing and end up a bit frustrated on the final result. When I have this, I do some really quick ones and the result is sometimes amazingly accurate or at least "fresh" compared to the longer study...

JoshT
10-24-2006, 09:00 PM
Chris-Palomino - Thanks much for the references. They definately will be handy.NR43 - Thanks for the advice. Loosening up will probably help my drawing.


Anyways, a study from
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Christ Carrying the Cross [detail: 1]
Marble, c.1521
Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/michaelarmstudy1.jpg

A) Bicep
B) Deltoid
C) Tricep
D) Tricep Medial End
E) ?
F) Extensor Carpi Ulnaris
G) Extensor Communis Digitorum
H) Brachioradialis

I am just going with what I believe to know and from a couple references. I wouldn't be shocked if someone told me all my muscles were wrong. If anyone knows what the correct muscles are, or can fill in any blanks please say. I will be fixing/filling these in as I go anyways.

JoshT
10-24-2006, 11:57 PM
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Pope Julius II: Moses
Marble, 1545
S. Pietro in Vincoli, Rome

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/michaelarmstudy2.jpg

A) Bicep
B) Tricep
C) Deltoid
D) Brachioradialis / Extensor Carpi Radialis Longus
E) Extensor Communis Digitorum
F) Extensor Carpi Ulnaris

JoshT
11-30-2006, 02:16 AM
Wow, it's been so long since I've been around here. Up to alot of things really. Anyways, here's a drawing of my hands I finished recently. All C&C welcome. BTW, everyone else on the forum seems to have improved alot, and are putting out alot of great work.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/hands.jpg

JoshT
02-08-2007, 04:16 AM
Ugh, been so long.
Anyways, just going to be posting day to day work. Most is going to be from other artists, how ever, some will be from imagination and some from life.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1a-1.jpg
Burne Hogarth

SylvanMist
02-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Ah, too bad none of your old drawings are showing up. Your last one looks really nice though! :)

thek
02-08-2007, 05:22 PM
yeah, none of your older drawings are showing up for me either, but the last one does have some nice shading going on. I'm not 100% sure but it seems some of the features on the far side of the 3/4 views look like they could be tightened up a little - but I'm being picky :)

JoshT
02-09-2007, 05:29 AM
Roja - Thanks.
thek - Yah, I think you're right. Droopy far sides right? Anyways, thanks for lookin out for me :).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1b.jpg
Burne Hogarth

JoshT
02-10-2007, 02:23 AM
Took some time to do a sketchy one today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1c.jpg

Anthony Ryder

mahmoudcg
02-10-2007, 02:56 AM
nice one Josh
wish i can see your previous drawings

Gord-MacDonald
02-10-2007, 03:57 AM
the last drawing is wonderful - lyrical and sensitive, wonderful handling of tone

I can't see any of the others

Gord

Rebeccak
02-11-2007, 12:01 AM
Always enjoy seeing your work, it has an emotional quality and a control that is really advanced especially for your age - definitely looking forward to more. :)

SpiritDreamer
02-11-2007, 01:25 AM
Hi....Josh...:thumbsup:
REALLY NICE FEELINGS COMING THRU IN YOUR DRAWINGS..easier said than done...a pleasure seeing that happening in your work..:)
Keep up the great progress Josh...looking forward to seeing more...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
02-11-2007, 04:24 AM
Thanks for all who have been watching over me. I havnt' been working towards the shading that I actually admire lately (very smooth blended and clean), but, I have been putting a little bit of time each day towards mass conception. I'm working through Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Anatomy. I find his illustrations to have a strong 3 dimensional feel that should definately help my drawing in time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1d-1.jpg
Burne Hogarth

JoshT
02-12-2007, 06:25 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1e.jpg
Burne Hogarth

SpiritDreamer
02-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Hi...Joshua...:)
If you have a chance, and haven't already, get Burne Hogarth's
DYNAMIC LIGHT AND SHADE book...will really help you in the area of shading...all kinds of ways to use light and shade in that book, the best book that I have seen on the subject...:)
I like those last studies that you posted....will learn a whole lot from him, i'm sure...be sure to read his words,they are just as important, if not more so, than his images, ..which just demonstrate his words.
Keep up the great work, and progress...Josh...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

JoshT
02-13-2007, 12:26 AM
SpiritDreamer - Hey Glenn. Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe I can take my next paycheck and put it towards some more books :D



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1f.jpg
Burne Hogarth

anandpg
02-13-2007, 03:13 AM
hey Josh! Great studies, dude!:thumbsup: keep it up!

JoshT
02-14-2007, 10:07 PM
anandpg - Thanks for the encouragement :) .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1g.jpg
Burne Hogarth

JoshT
02-15-2007, 03:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1h.jpg
Burne Hogarth

NR43
02-15-2007, 05:35 AM
Hey man

great to see your hard work!
the drawing of the young boy is really great too!

kSeth
02-15-2007, 07:00 AM
Oh I love the depth you created with that portrait.

JoshT
02-16-2007, 11:51 PM
NR43, kSeth - Thanks to both of you.



Nothing special. I'm just trying to learn the great muscle masses.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1i.jpg
Burne Hogarth

NR43
02-17-2007, 07:08 AM
just remember that Hogarth's edu drawings are highly exaggerated to show what is where.
i stronlgy advise o compare his drawings with those from other books.
My favouite anatomy book is "Anatomy for the Artist" by Jenö Barcsay

razz
02-17-2007, 09:39 AM
Listen to NR about Hogarth. Don't get used to the stylised stuff of Hogarth. Well, NR told about it. Now something I would suggest is to learn where muscles attach and their form and action. Because it's more important than knowing how it is called. That's why I was always confused when there would be a whole anatomycal figure drawn with the muscle names written but nothing more. Bridgman's book called "Bridgman's complete guide to drawing from life" was the best for me on that subject. Write the attachments and actions of the muscles that are spoken about. There are videos called "aclands atlas of human anatomy". I've seen one volume of that and was happy to know the attachments. Bit gross, because shows everything with a real body, fleshy and stuff. And it goes a bit to the medical anatomy, not artistic, but good nevertheless.
Keep up with the studies :thumbsup:

JoshT
02-18-2007, 01:14 AM
NR43 - Thanks for the reminder :) . I have been keeping it in mind. I have Albinus on Anatomy with me usually when I'm looking at Hogarth's stuff. It seems to be a lot more realistic and down to earth. I havn't actually seen any of that book you mentioned. Hopefully I can get around to working through some books eventually and getting onto new ones.


Razz - I actually have that book. Havn't got into it at all since it seemed a bit overwhelming. I'll try my best to work into it. I'll even search the internet right now to see what those videos are about.




Quick and ugly :sad:, more leg originally by Hogarth.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1j.jpg

JoshT
02-28-2007, 09:55 PM
Definately havn't been keeping up this post lately. Here's a sketch from yesterday however.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/1k.jpg
Originally A Painting by Anthony Ryder

Rebeccak
03-05-2007, 07:26 AM
Lovely. :) Something I'd like to see is perhaps a few more darks added here and there to set things off in your drawings. Your approach is very methodical and lends itself well to careful accenting of areas with more darks.

Keep up the good work. :)

JoshT
04-04-2007, 09:00 PM
RebeccaK - Thanks. Yah. The lack of darks...I'm working on it. I do agree, it would make things alot better looking.

Anyways, my scanner broke a little back, here's some recent studying shot from my digital camera :shrug: .
I realized I would really like to be able to construct characters, and I don't know enough about the form of the skeleton. I'm going to focus on that alot for a while...and I'll probably throw in some portrait drawings every few days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/april1a.jpg
Albinus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/josht/april1b.jpg

Coming to some conclusions on some proportions, with the help of some books I read and practice. I refered to this site alot
http://biology.clc.uc.edu/fankhauser/Labs/Anatomy_&_Physiology/A&P201/Skeletal/Skull_Bones.htm

NR43
04-05-2007, 05:05 AM
Sounds like you have a good plan
here's hoping to see your studies so we can see your workflow a bit

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