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norman365
11-05-2005, 12:29 AM
Hi, everyone :wavey: .

I've just started a Life Drawing course at my local college (started this week) and as promised in a thread on the techniques forum, I am going to be posting a few examples of my work on this thread over it's duration. ANY crits, advice etc. so I can improve my skills are much appreciated!

WEEK ONE:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/1.jpg

as you can tell, I've been looking at the Loomis' books for a while, these are some quick sketches from the class.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/2.jpg

some studies of the old mannequin to show experimentation.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/3.jpg

a collection of a study from a newspaper photographs, and quick studies of hands and feet following advice on the previous forum.

Thanks for looking, again any help-advice MUCH appreciated :arteest:

norman365
11-05-2005, 01:58 PM
sorry, have I posted this on the wrong forum? If so, could the webmaster plase redirect this thread?

thanks

Rebeccak
11-05-2005, 02:03 PM
norman365,

Hey there, welcome to the Anatomy Forum! I'm happy to see you've started your own Anatomy Thread. :)

Nope, you're in the right forum. :) But though it's 2 pm in the UK, it's only 9am here on the East Coast of the US, so no worries, eventually people will post to your thread. ;)

I recommend checking out the Anatomy Reviews I ran a few months back here on the forum. :) In particularl, check out:

Anatomy Review 002: OPPOSING CURVES (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=255700)

It's a long thread, but take a look at the beginning demos and then browse through the rest of the thread at your leisure. There was a lot of really good work posted there, so it's definitely worth looking into. :)

Looking forward to seeing more of your work here as your class progresses! What year are you in? Off to the zoo now to sketch. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

norman365
11-05-2005, 03:54 PM
norman365,

Hey there, welcome to the Anatomy Forum! I'm happy to see you've started your own Anatomy Thread. :)

Nope, you're in the right forum. :) But though it's 2 pm in the UK, it's only 9am here on the East Coast of the US, so no worries, eventually people will post to your thread. ;)

I recommend checking out the Anatomy Reviews I ran a few months back here on the forum. :) In particularl, check out:



Anatomy Review 002: OPPOSING CURVES (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=255700)




It's a long thread, but take a look at the beginning demos and then browse through the rest of the thread at your leisure. There was a lot of really good work posted there, so it's definitely worth looking into. :)


Looking forward to seeing more of your work here as your class progresses! What year are you in? Off to the zoo now to sketch. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak






thanks for replying! :thumbsup:

I'm only in the first year, although I did a bit of Life Drawing here and there in college and university :). Will definitely look into your previous reviews (I think I remember seeing the one you mentioned fleetingly),although having to log off in a sec as work calls (not creative either) :sad: .

The next class is Monday afternoon so expect to see some more sketches around Tuesday

Rebeccak
11-08-2005, 12:57 AM
Tuesday looms! :) *taps watch* :)

Cheers, ;)

~Rebeccak

norman365
11-08-2005, 03:01 PM
OK, ok you've twisted my arm...:cry:

WEEK 2: Experiments in Charcoal

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/4.jpg

My tutor tells me I have problems with my line, it's the same consistency. This comes from my habit of constantly etching over the same line, which in turn make the drawing lose depth. I agree. What do you think and do anybody else suffer from this?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/5.jpg

this is a reverse, trying to use the darkness as a tool, if you see what I mean.

thanks for looking :eek:

Andy.

norman365
11-08-2005, 04:02 PM
ok, just been reading your lessons (sorry for the delay, haven't been able to get round to it upto now). just like to say: WOW,

boy, have I got a lot to learn...

Rebeccak
11-08-2005, 11:52 PM
norman365,

Good to see these! We all have a lot to learn. ;) Thanks for checking out the lessons! :)

Have you ever done master copies before? I think they would be really helpful. I also think it might be helpful if you tried to work with just linework, and use minimal tone. This really tests what you know, and will reveal problem areas right away! That way, you know what you need to study. Working where things are too easily smeared results in a bit of fudging (at least in my experience). ;) Try drawing with a ballpoint pen, or drawing with a pencil, and not erasing. Or better yet, try doing a master copy or study of anatomy in pen. It really forces one to focus, and will help improve one's powers of perception.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

norman365
11-10-2005, 12:26 PM
No I've never done Master Copies before (to be honest I've never heard of one), I'll give it a try though ;)

norman365
11-15-2005, 02:46 PM
Hey, it's tuesday, it's...

WEEK 3: Opposing Curves (p.s thanks so much for the lessons Rebecca, can't believe the impact that thinking about opposing curves has had :thumbsup: )

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/6.jpg

four minute pose using line only.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/7.jpg

longer study (around 30 minutes). only part is shown (A2 pieces of work into an A4 Scanner just don't go :) )

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/8.jpg
part of above sketch.

thanks for looking :eek:

Rebeccak
11-16-2005, 12:40 AM
norman365,

Hey, I think your opposing curves drawings are really coming along! This is a great concept which you should really try to keep in mind in any drawing ~ it's really fundamental. If you look at any great works of art, you will find opposing curves everywhere. :) It's because they are present everywhere in nature. When you exxaggerate these in a controlled way, you are able to effectively communicate form ~ you've done a particularly good job in the last image of the leg there.

Keep practicing! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

norman365
11-24-2005, 02:35 PM
here's a few examples of this week's work. to be honest, there's not that much improvement to last week (I haven't drawn at all for the last week, went to BAF :) )

BTW, I don't mind if anyone wants to scan these off to draw on, so I can see where I'm going wrong.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/9.jpg

short sketch (about 15 mins.) personally don't like the arm, I think it looks too much like cloth.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/10.jpg

part of a larger sketch.

thanks for looking :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
11-25-2005, 08:07 AM
norman365,

Good to see your new posts! I think these are lacking a bit of symmetry, and as you say, solidity, but overall I think these are quite nice efforts! How often do you draw, by the way? What type of instruction do you receive? Always interested to know. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

norman365
11-25-2005, 11:40 AM
norman365,

Good to see your new posts! I think these are lacking a bit of symmetry, and as you say, solidity, but overall I think these are quite nice efforts! How often do you draw, by the way? What type of instruction do you receive? Always interested to know. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

I don't draw that often actually, mostly just end up doodling things after a while. It's really bad and I should be more disciplined really.

As for type of instruction, I'm mostly left to my own devices but then Steve (tutor) will always come round and comment on what he feels is working and what isn't, offer solutions, advice etc.

norman365
12-08-2005, 02:00 PM
sorry for the wait for the last two weeks, gonna try and put these works up either today or tomorrow.

should tell you as well that there's the three-week christmas break after next week, there probably won't be much over that time (again we'll see what happens).

norman365
12-09-2005, 11:33 AM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/13.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/12.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/11.jpg
thanks for looking, and again sorry for the wait :)

Rebeccak
12-09-2005, 11:02 PM
norman365,

Hey, I think these are getting better! You're getting some rhythm into these poses, which is quite promising ~ have you ever considered doing Master Studies? I think these would help out a lot, too ~ if I've already mentioned that, sorry for the repeat ~ but I feel strongly that Master Copies are the fastest route to improvement.

Good to see your work, keep posting! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

norman365
12-10-2005, 12:24 PM
thanks!

sorry, could you please clarify for me what a 'master copy' is? I have an idea what it is, but i'm not too sure.

Andy

norman365
12-13-2005, 03:38 PM
here's the results from this week's lesson:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/14.jpg

norman365
12-13-2005, 03:43 PM
I've also been working on the tutorial for shading skulls (before I knew it was closed). If you would prefer me to leave it in the other thread, just let me know :)

Reference image (from an visual dictionary)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/ref.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/skull.jpg

personally I Like it, but I think the jaw could have done with being more stretched out.

thanks for looking :)

Rebeccak
12-13-2005, 03:55 PM
Hey there!

Can't look too closely at these atm, but good to see your posts ~ will definitely be checkin' these out later! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

norman365
01-10-2006, 09:59 PM
Hey everyone, happy new year!

the course resumed this week. haven't done much drawing at the minute (been mostly planning. building, rigging for an animation I want to put in my demo reel) so a few of these pictures are a bit rusty, in terms of proportion etc...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/16.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/15.jpg

again thanks for looking, more next week!

Amerasu
01-11-2006, 01:32 AM
Hi Andrew, there's some nice work here! I think your drawings from weeks 5, 6 and 7 are the strongest. I especially like the first one on your week 5 post. There's a definite improvement that I can see from your first posting, especially in regard to proportion and shading. It's hard to make out week 8 as the scans are smaller but I don't think they're quite as strong as the others.

I look forward to seeing more! Keep up the good work :)

norman365
01-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Hey thanks for the nice comments! :thumbsup:

I totally agree with you on the last post, you can tell I've had a few weeks off can't you? (the back on the last image was a complete killer, looking at it now I think I should have just left it as is)

I'm a fan of your thread as well by the way, how did you get the smoothness in the skin of your subjects?

norman365
01-18-2006, 06:50 PM
to start with, here's a few four-minute quick poses I did at the start of the lesson.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/18.jpg

and heres this weeks longer pose, as you might have noticed in most of the other weeks, I mostly sit in the middle of the room. So for a change I decided to sit on the left, which presented a bit of a challenge to me as I was forced to deal with foreshortening.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/17.jpg

again, any advice crits etc. welcome. thanks for looking!

save often
02-01-2006, 11:45 PM
wow, some really nice pose`s you got there. there really coming along. the college i went to nobody was willing to strip off and let us draw them but then again most of the students were only there because they thought it was an easy ride and could not get into any other course`s.

nice work. keep it up.

by the way what part of sheffield are you from if you don`t mind me asking??

norman365
02-02-2006, 04:47 PM
thanks for the comments!

sure, no thing. I'm from Parson Cross on the north side of the city (I think this side's been named 'ArticMonkeyVille' now...)

the centre I go to is Bannerdale, just past town. Are you originally from round here? and which college did you go to (I'm guessing Loxley)

p.s sorry for the lask of images at the mo, not particualry fond of the work I've done at the minute, feel they're not up to the usual quality. if anyone want's to see, I'll post them though.

norman365
02-08-2006, 01:55 PM
in oil pastels. Hope you like them:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/20.jpg

a 15 minute pose from the notebook.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/Life%20Drawing%20Works/19.jpg

as you can probably tell, I've had to 'stitch' this drawing back together, the original was way too big for either the scanner or the local photocopier. I also tried using the webcam but I found the quality unsatisfactory to put on here.

anyways, any crits advice etc. as always welcome! BTW, I learnt that extra life drawing classes are been held at the local gallery so I'm gonna go down there for some extra practice which means I should be putting more drawings on here instead of the odd one here or there.

Rebeccak
02-08-2006, 06:32 PM
norman365,

Can't take a look at your work just at the moment, but glad to hear you will be able to post more work! :thumbsup: Looking forward to taking a better look later today. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
02-11-2006, 02:56 PM
norman365,

I really think your first pastel piece has a lot of nice potential...take a look at Degas' paintings and pastels, his color combinations are truly sublime:

http://mulot.free.fr/art/07%20-%20Degas%20-%20baigneuse1.jpg
http://mulot.free.fr/art/07%20-%20Degas%20-%20baigneuse1.jpg

http://www.e-mpressionism.net/degas/degas21.jpg
http://www.e-mpressionism.net/degas/degas21.jpg

http://www.art-liquidation.com/images/Degas/Dancers_in_Blue_s.jpg
http://www.art-liquidation.com/images/Degas/Dancers_in_Blue_s.jpg


http://www.spanisharts.com/history/del_impres_s.XX/impresionismo/degas_detale.jpghttp://www.spanisharts.com/history/del_impres_s.XX/impresionismo/degas_detale.jpg

http://www.kyrene.k12.az.us/schools/brisas/sunda/art/degas.jpg
http://www.kyrene.k12.az.us/schools/brisas/sunda/art/degas.jpg

You might even try doing a Degas Master Copy ~ it would really take you deeper into the world of color, I would think. :)

My suggestion is to use a fairly large sheet of textured paper, heavy stock ~ you can't go too small as the width of the pastel stick then becomes prohibitive. I'd really like to see you give this a shot! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

norman365
02-11-2006, 09:34 PM
hey, thanks a lot for the cool degas pics! I see what you mean about his use of colour, it looks so natural and it really draws you in.

will take a shot at what you suggested ( it's half-term here in blighty, so got a little bit more time on my hands, always a good thing). :thumbsup:

thanks a lot for the advice!

Rebeccak
03-01-2006, 09:45 PM
If you haven't already, you should totally join the Challenge!

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/enter.php

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

norman365
03-02-2006, 09:15 PM
thanks for the suggestion, rebecca! actually, reading this month's challenge reminded me of something I saw when I was last in London.

BTW, I know I keep saying this but sorry about the lack of work. I'm just going through a bit of an up and down phase with at the moment (everyone does at some point, don't they?) PROMISE I'll get the Degas suggestion up and running ASAP (it's even being mentioned by my college mentor). I'll also look into getting a lot more work onto here, I guess if I don't show everything I've done I won't know what I'm doing wrong on a piece I don't like, right?

thanks.
Andy

norman365
09-28-2006, 09:27 PM
NINE MONTHS?! geez, didn't think it was that long...

anyways, learnt A LOT since the last entry and after all that time I actually seem to have got my slacker ass into gear and actually done some ANATOMY STUDIES. here's some studies I've made recently using the Jeno Barcsay book 'Anatomy for the Artist' as a guide. Expect to see a few more of these (and a few life drawings, seeing as the courses have just started again :scream: )
as I work through the book (I tell you, that first section was tough but you have to work through it don't ya?)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/anatomy_arm-study_side.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/anatomy_arm-study.jpg

I promise the next ones won't be as long! as always any crits, re-draws over parts etc. would be very much appreciated.

Andy.

Rebeccak
09-28-2006, 09:47 PM
Andy,

Lovely drawings. :) Good to see this thread reactivated. Definitely looking forward to seeing more of these studies. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

norman365
11-09-2006, 03:58 PM
see, it's only been five/six weeks...:)

here's a few more studies from the 'anatomy for the artist' book.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/scapula.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/skeleton_front.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/torso.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/humerus.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/hand.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/anatomy%20studies/foot.jpg

there were a few more sketches I wanted to post, but they've gone a bit awol on me. on the plus side, at least you get a little quick posed figure sketch in the corner!

hope you enjoy!

Andy.

Rebeccak
11-09-2006, 04:08 PM
Very nice studies here, particularly the torso drawing - I look forward to seeing more of these, they're really the best way to understand what's beneath the skin - nice work. :)

NR43
11-10-2006, 07:33 AM
I loooove bonez :D
nice studies

who's "Anatomy for the artist" book is it?
there are several from different authors :)

norman365
11-10-2006, 01:42 PM
it's the Jeno Barcsay one, I mentioned it about 3 or 4 posts back :) . I recommend finding it on ebay, got mine for about 20.

Andy

NR43
11-10-2006, 04:13 PM
thanks for the tip :thumbsup: I love that book
i have the book from the library here in front of me (edition from 1973)

The scapula...
page 25 (plate V, A) posterior aspect
yours looks a bit short, great shading though
would love to see you post up a study of the lateral and anterior aspect :)

norman365
11-11-2006, 11:08 PM
thanks for the tip :thumbsup: I love that book
i have the book from the library here in front of me (edition from 1973)

The scapula...
page 25 (plate V, A) posterior aspect
yours looks a bit short, great shading though
would love to see you post up a study of the lateral and anterior aspect :)

come to mention it, I think I've done those (probably do them again when I have some time tomorrow).

norman365
11-27-2006, 02:07 PM
here's a selection of short life drawings based on the techniques mentioned in the Mike Mattesi book 'Force: Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators'. It really is a great book to get and pretty cheap too (I got mine for 10 from Amazon). this stuff's really gonna come in handy when thumbnailing. the reference for these pictures can be found here (despite the title it's got a wide range of pics, both free and subscription):
http://www.female-anatomy-for-artist.com/ (contains nudity)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/gesture_drawings.jpg

also one of the 'AWOL' anatomy drawings I was mentioning earlier

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/norman365/deltoid_muscle.jpg

will try to post a balance of these (including the cross studies) over the coming weeks.

Andy.

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