Need advice on lot of components.

[SMH]

Hi,

Greg Hess told me about Leadtek in addition to Gainward. You might want to check them out: www.leadtek.com They make great looking GF4ti VIVOs. they also make one of the best TV-Tuner cards out there. I'd still suggest you wait for Greg's advice he might have something new to show us all.

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a250le-myvivo/pics/box-board.jpg

WinFast A250 LE TD - MyVIVO Edition (GF4 4200ti 128MB)

http://www.leadtek.com.tw/www/Web_Leadtek/multimedia/winfast-cinema-flow.jpg

The WinFast Cinema Add-On (Requires a VIVO card)

http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/14-122-132-06.JPG

The Winfast TV 2000XP PCI card (Independent TV-Tuner) ~60$ from Newegg.com

[Gyan]

Originally posted by SMH
Hi,

Greg Hess told me about Leadtek in addition to Gainward. You might want to check them out: www.leadtek.com


Well, I know about Ledtek too. The reason I mentioned gainward is because their Golden Sample cards are not only suitable for overclocking, they provide a utility to enable it.
Correction : I just went to the Leadtek product page, they have an equivalent utility too. So, I guess this evens it out.

Now, an additional query , how much of a difference between 4600,4400,4200 series in Max ?

[B][QUOTE]
They make great looking GF4ti VIVOs. they also make one of the best TV-Tuner cards out there. I'd still suggest you wait for Greg's advice he might have something new to show us all.
[B][QUOTE]

Agreed. Greg Hess, where are you ?


Gyan

[GregHess]

"Agreed. Greg Hess, where are you?"

Out seeing the new Harry Potter film, and 8 mile. Along with spending a huge amount of time AWAY from the computer :).

Btw the CG in harry potter is fantastic! (Though I'm sure somewhere on this forum there is another thread about it)

K quick comments....

As far as I know you don't need new Ram for DCDDR. DCDDR occurs at a motherboard level, and to make the techincal explanation simple, basically allows the ram to work together (kinda of like advanced interleaving) on specific tasks increasing bandwidth substaintally.

MadMax just bought some nforce2 boards, so I'm sure he could confirm that it uses normal DDR. Of course, the fastest normal DDR would probably be advised :). But it looks as if you already have something pretty close to cutting edge.

I like leadtek and gainward pretty much equally. I haven't had experience with either of their vivo cards (as I have yet to delve into the wonderful world of video editing) so I can't really lean to one or the other. I will however mention, that the gainward ti 4200's I purchased both came with DVI-I to HD15 dongles...which the leadtek's did not.

The heatsink the Leadtek Ti 4200 has is pretty swank, and huge...but I had to unscrew the fan and remount it, as the edge of the blades was clipping the side of the sink. (Making a little buzzing noise everytime you turned it on). However this was a minor detail.

Here's a pic of the gainward unit...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1387&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

[Newegg seemed to stop direct linking of images...grr]

From the pics SMH has shown, it looks like the leadtek might be the superior solution. That breakout box looks insanely useful.

[Gyan]

Originally posted by GregHess
"Agreed. Greg Hess, where are you?"

Btw the CG in harry potter is fantastic! (Though I'm sure somewhere on this forum there is another thread about it)


So,I've heard. Although, frankly, I'm more of a Tolkien guy than Potter.


As far as I know you don't need new Ram for DCDDR. DCDDR occurs at a motherboard level, and to make the techincal explanation simple, basically allows the ram to work together (kinda of like advanced interleaving) on specific tasks increasing bandwidth substaintally.


So I thought. But there was a post saying otherwise on an Asus newsgroup. Anyway,that's clear now. I'll wait till Tuesday to check out the P4G8X mobo.


MadMax just bought some nforce2 boards, so I'm sure he could confirm that it uses normal DDR. Of course, the fastest normal DDR would probably be advised :). But it looks as if you already have something pretty close to cutting edge.


Yup, alongwith my new mobo, I'll see just how high those Corsairs go.


I like leadtek and gainward pretty much equally. I haven't had experience with either of their vivo cards (as I have yet to delve into the wonderful world of video editing) so I can't really lean to one or the other. I will however mention, that the gainward ti 4200's I purchased both came with DVI-I to HD15 dongles...which the leadtek's did not.


You mean I can't connect the CRT to the Leadtek ?


From the pics SMH has shown, it looks like the leadtek might be the superior solution. That breakout box looks insanely useful.

Actually, its nothing new. My current 8500DV has the same thing. Not a big deal either way.

Also, what should i go for the 4200 or 4400 ? (from max's point of view)

[SMH]

"[Newegg seemed to stop direct linking of images...grr]"

Try this: Right clicking on the image, open it in a new window. Copy the URL then paste it in the IMG requester, you get:

http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/14-128-126-01.JPG

GAINWARD/CARDEXPERT GeForce 4 Ti 4200, 4ns, 128MB DDR, Power Pack Golden Sample.

[GregHess]

Ah! I was trying to link to the catalog. So that all images could be browsed through. It gave me a "sorry no picture" response. Heh.

I think out of all the three cards, the ti 4200 is still the best bang for the buck. It can easily be overclocked to speeds past a ti 4400, and its much cheaper then a ti 4600. I myself have a leadtek ti 4400, which I purchased when the only other solutions were a gf4 mx and a gf4 ti 4600 (which cost almost 500 USD at the time).

I've been quite happy with it and have no complaints...but like I said its not a vivo card, nor do I have much experience with video input.

When I meant DVI-I to HD15, its for the secondary LCD output, to convert it to normal analog screens. The cards have dual head capability, and the dongle just allows you to run dual CRT's. You can purchase the dongles for 8-15 dollars (depending on where you look), and it was just nice that the gainward came with one, instead of having to track it down.

[SMH]

This one eluded me, it actually looks great (GF4 4600ti-128MB):

http://images2.newegg.com/productimage/14-128-130-03.JPG

It actually has 2 DVI ports + VIVO, comes with CRT adapters:

-Here's the product link (http://www.gainward.com/c-1.html?id=16)

Guess I'll just wait for an NV30 based version...a good excuse for my second Cinema Display...:drool:

[Gyan]

Originally posted by GregHess

I think out of all the three cards, the ti 4200 is still the best bang for the buck. It can easily be overclocked to speeds past a ti 4400, and its much cheaper then a ti 4600. I myself have a leadtek ti 4400, which I purchased when the only other solutions were a gf4 mx and a gf4 ti 4600 (which cost almost 500 USD at the time).


Then, wouldn't it mean that you can clock a 4400 to higher speeds too ? In other words, a 4400 OCed will be faster than a 4200 OCed. Or is the difference not that much ?

Gyan

[Sieb]

Ah yes.. the infamous 4600 Golden Sample.. Doesn't get much better than that.. I have to keep telling myself not to buy it and wait for NV30s. That is easily the best card ever, just check all the reviews. Well worth its cost I say. The 4200 is the best bang for your buck, they are discontinuing 4400s because of their position, not really needed. Everyone was buying 4400s and overclocking them to 4600 speeds.

[GregHess]

Hey Gyan,

I can run my ti 4400 at Ti 4600 speeds...but with the newer Ti 4200's, you can do basically the same thing. =/

As sieb pointed out, there really isn't a need for the middle ranged card... In fact nvidia stopped protection of the ti 4400's AND the ti 4600's, as they weren't selling anywhere near as well as the ti 4200's.

If you notice, alot of the new video cards with nvidia chips have all been ti 4200's (in the last few months). Even the souped up Abit Ti 4200 with the insane cooling system, is based off the slower chips. (btw I don't recommend that one, its louder then most people's entire computers).

SMH...so are you going to buy that ti 4600 Dual DVI-I for me? :P it looks AWESOME.

:drool:

[Gyan]

Originally posted by GregHess
Hey Gyan,

I can run my ti 4400 at Ti 4600 speeds...but with the newer Ti 4200's, you can do basically the same thing. =/



Well, I just got the 128mb Ti4200 leadtek VIVO, so I hope you're right. Also went for the P4PE.

They come on Wednesday. Can hardly wait.


Thanks All

Gyan

[SMH]

Originally posted by GregHess
SMH...so are you going to buy that ti 4600 Dual DVI-I for me? :P it looks AWESOME.:drool:

Well actually Greg...I'll just wait for the NV30s then buy us Hammer workstations with the new card and a couple like these each:

http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/250x250/P232WFRONT.jpg http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/250x250/P232WFRONT.jpg

Errr...I hope you like them...:drool:

[GregHess]

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[SMH]

I'll relay your enthusiasm to my banker, I'm sure he'll be just as... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

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