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othoap
10-25-2005, 05:15 PM
Looking for feedback on a new Listener design?

You can download the flash file as a ZIP. To play, unZIP and drag .swf to in any flash enabled browser.




http://othoap.com/nl.htm




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Blue
10-25-2005, 09:39 PM
Very nice, I didn't see anyway to get back to the listner when a script was open, maybe it could be a tab.

stuh505
10-25-2005, 11:02 PM
Cool, I would definitely enjoy being able to keep multiple scripts open using tabs. I tend to have 5 or 6 script windows open and that would speed things up a little.

Many times I want to be watching the listener while I evaluate. Using this it looks like I'd have to open the script (hiding the listener) in order to evaluate it...so it would be nice if you could right click on a script tab and select evaluate instead.

I'm not sure about having the max script reference appear within this window...I like to have this fairly big when I look at it, so I would not use that at all.

And one more minor comment, I'd make the selected tab be a bit more obvious...perhaps lit up in a different color or something.

othoap
10-26-2005, 12:17 AM
Yes Blue good idea.


Stuh505: What about splitting the window horizontally with MaxScript on top and the Listener on the bottom. Yes the active script tab could be much more obvious.




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erilaz
10-26-2005, 12:47 AM
Sweet design. This would clean up scripting procedure very nicely!

RyanT
10-26-2005, 12:53 AM
Othoap, so is this a tool you might be sharing in the near future?

-RyanT

stuh505
10-26-2005, 01:25 AM
Yes Blue good idea.

Stuh505: What about splitting the window horizontally with MaxScript on top and the Listener on the bottom. Yes the active script tab could be much more obvious.

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Yeah that would work, just make a button to hide/show the listener...and allow the transition point to be dragged higher or lower to see more of the desired window. If it was hidden when you evaluated, it would automatically be unhidden.

othoap
10-26-2005, 02:36 PM
Erilaz & RyanT: Yes I would, But it's not a real product. I just pieced it together with screen shots and Flash.




Has any one enhanced MaxScript or the Listener?




In general are people happy with MaxScript and the Listener?




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stuh505
10-26-2005, 04:04 PM
nah, I'm not really happy with it...but im never satisfied!

one thing you could do that would be really cool would be to insert an extra level of pre-processing on scripts for evaluation...basically to add new syntactic sugar to the language.

for example, adding new syntax like /*commented*/ that allows you to comment out large blocks of code, and replace it with a million -- on every line before it gets turned over to max for the real evaluation

othoap
10-26-2005, 04:53 PM
Stuh505: Kind-a-like your “Render Proxy”, a place holder? I did not think of enhancing the language it self.




On a side note: how are you using the term “syntactic sugar”. Like a sugar as a carbon molecule? C12H22O11 with branched nodes?

stuh505
10-26-2005, 05:14 PM
well render proxy is for rendering cached objects, so im not sure what the relationship is there...i was thinking more along the lines of having a special evaluate button that parsed your script, changed it, and evalutes that changed version instead...allowing you to define new syntax for maxscript. syntactice sugar is a term that my Programming Languages teacher used, im not sure if he coined it or not, but basically syntactic sugar is just adding additional syntax to the language that does not allow for new features, but just makes it easier to write the existing features

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