CGTalk - STEVEN SPIELBERG has invented technology he calls "the future of cinema"

Maverick3d

10-12-2005, 03:37 PM

Perhaps something like Quicktime VR with goggles that track the angle of your head... or maybe a huge concaved hemisphere movie screen.

Something stupid like that.

Remember how motion ride films with the moving seats were going to be a huge "revolution" in movie watching?

And then there's stereoscopic 3d...and "choose-your-own" endings...and red/cyan 3d...

knellotron

10-12-2005, 03:57 PM

VR kind of undermines the artform of cinematography... I don't like the idea of the viewer coming up with their own compositions. That should be the job of artists. I bet Speilberg feels the same way.

Likewise, if it is something related to 3-D projection, it will probably be creating an image that's sort of a "window" into a 3-D scene, not the "theater in the round" kind of experience... point of view is a really fundamental aspect to storytelling on film.

Also: Speilberg isn't an inventor. He's probably just hopping on someone's innovation that no one would notice if it didn't have a major name backing it. It reminds me of the Halo movie hype.

Bonedaddy

10-12-2005, 05:11 PM

It's the world's biggest Zoetrope.

Don't tell anyone.

colintheys

10-12-2005, 05:18 PM

It's the world's biggest Zoetrope.

Don't tell anyone.

hehe. Actually, i've got the inside dope. You're close, but it's really a giant Phenakistoscope and the whole audience gets to watch in a mirror.

erilaz

10-12-2005, 05:19 PM

"I've made something really cool, but i'm not going to tell you what it is"
This could be anything! :surprised

Smellovision? :D

paintbox

10-12-2005, 06:01 PM

Well that was informative ! :thumbsup:

Maybe it has something to do with Transformers.

and Ninja's.

zandoria

10-12-2005, 06:19 PM

If it Was "patent pending", then a detailed description of the invention and thourough explanation of exactly how it works would have to be filed with the USPO. Maybe he should have said that a patent application was pending instead?

pthomas72

10-12-2005, 06:30 PM

Damn! Hollywood must really be hurting.

Breton

10-12-2005, 07:40 PM

"I've made something really cool, but i'm not going to tell you what it is"
This could be anything! :surprised

Smellovision? :D

or "spilbergVision" maybe. (through his glasses :P)

the news is interesting, we would have to hope something good.

JYoung

10-12-2005, 07:53 PM

It's a holodeck.

Breton

10-12-2005, 08:04 PM

It's a holodeck.

jejeejejeje, are you sure? well, let's wait~!

here's a definition of a holodeck

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies5.htm

Boone

10-12-2005, 08:34 PM

gunslingerblack

10-12-2005, 08:44 PM

that was horrendous,reminds me of "performance capture"

lol it's like watching a movie, only being in the movie, i can't really talk much about it

well...what else is there to say steve?

Boone

10-12-2005, 08:56 PM

I personally wouldn't have mentioned it until it was patented - Its only going to encourage other interests to snoop around... :hmm:

Borjis

10-12-2005, 09:20 PM

Something from the sides....hmm. I'll lay a guess that its some kind of update to the old "3-cinema-screen" presentation they did back in the fifties or sixties. I think it was for an old western or similar... :lightbulb

Yeah thats called "Cinerama." These movies are shot on 3 cameras and played back from 3 projectors onto a gigantic screen. The Seattle Cinerama is one of the few original theatres that Paul Allen was kind of enought to do a full restoration on.

http://www.seattlecinerama.com/

"How the West was Won" is the old western your talking about and it was the last movie
shot/played back in the format if I'm not mistaken.

DorkmanScott

10-12-2005, 09:29 PM

It's a holodeck.

I'm down. Just leave the safeties on, 'cause I like monster movies.

Hugh-Jass

10-12-2005, 09:32 PM

it's ET's glowing finger combined with a sigmoidoscope...OOOUUUUCH
you become an active participant in Close Encounters of the Worst kind on a really really big screen

His patent is "all things interactive" , then he's going to sue everybody.

Cinemas are pretty much barely hanging on...this just sounds like throwing lazer tag into the mix... or that episode of the Brady Bunch where they got to Hollywood and throw pies at each other

Chewey

10-12-2005, 09:35 PM

Maybe smell-o-vision?

DorkmanScott

10-12-2005, 09:36 PM

I think it'd be cool to have more movies like Terminator 2: 3-D where the film goes in and out of the screen. It'd be more like a stage performance that has a run of a certain length in theatres and then something else comes in instead. It would be especially cool if the actors onscreen and onstage were the same.

JeroenDStout

10-12-2005, 09:43 PM

I put 10 bucks on it being "films with a not overly happy end".

PhilOsirus

10-12-2005, 11:54 PM

I want the seat located under Jessica Alba.

noisewar

10-13-2005, 12:53 AM

Introducing the world's first Pavlovian Film Critiquer- angry moviegoers can now send an eletric shock to the directors, actors, or writers of Hollywood with every bad shot, bad act, or bad joke. Film becomes the epitome of civilized art. Tom Hank forms the Screenactor's Scientologists Union in protest.

Oh an Pauly Shore dies from the Retroactive Vote feature.

luciferous

10-13-2005, 12:55 AM

I reckon it'll be hallucination specific drugs that when taken cause the person to live through the story of spielbergs choice... it would revolutionise the porn industry... buy a night with Aria Giovanni... glee!

crutch

10-13-2005, 01:07 AM

New technology, theatre popcorn machines that cut the cost in half.
How about no more screaming babies in the theatre and I might star going again, we need to think lo-tech.

Hazdaz

10-13-2005, 02:03 AM

"the new film experience will suck audiences into the heart of the action."

You guys are reading too much into this.... his new invention will do exactly that, SUCK.... he invented a new type of vacuum.

Lunatique

10-13-2005, 05:32 AM

Nemoid

10-13-2005, 07:18 AM

i'm not a big fan of VR systems and things like that. because as the article says : it s the story and not these fx that engage people on viewing the movie. also perople doesn't want to be active when watching a movie. they want to be overblown by it, and stay passive.

however it could be a cool thing , who knows.

p.s. btw i have the secret to live young and forever. but i've patented it, and can't discuss it right now. - sorry coudn't resist - :D

Spc

10-13-2005, 07:37 AM

This isn't exactly the same as some no-name person saying that he has invented a new technology--this is one of the most respected film directors on planet earth.
I agree with you Lunatique.
This technology should be interesting.
:)

EpShot

10-13-2005, 07:54 AM

maybe its something that allows each person to have a "central perspective" towards the film. no matter where you sat in the theatre. maybe, who knows. personaly i just order tickets 3 days in advance to assigned seating.

noisewar

10-13-2005, 08:58 AM

Why are people so eager to jump on the bandwagon to bash a director who is probably far more intelligent, talented, successful, powerful, and command far more resources and funding than any of us ever will in our entire lifetime? This isn't exactly the same as some no-name person saying that he has invented a new technology--this is one of the most respected film directors on planet earth.

Maybe because this is not the first time he, his colleagues, and equally intelligent/successful/powerful people have made claims like this. It's their business. I prefer pudding first. But I don't think anyone was bashing, just some kidding around in absence of info.

bitBrain

10-13-2005, 10:06 AM

Speilberg isn't an inventor.
AMEN to that. Always liked his earlier works, the later stuff is too much "I want to make a serious film in a technically proficient way".

btw that Bronson individual that commented the article is one confused existence. lol. :P

danimat0r

10-13-2005, 07:53 PM

this is one of the most respected film directors on planet earth.

Er...

Hmm.

slaughters

10-13-2005, 08:02 PM

... the new film experience will suck audiences into the heart of the action."

>>Link<< (http://contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/spielberg%20looking%20to%20the%20future)

-RCool ! Smell-O-Vision is making a come back !

Dang It ! Chewy beat me to the punch line.

DorkmanScott

10-13-2005, 08:19 PM

this is one of the most respected film directors on planet earth. Er...

Hmm.

You may or may not think highly of him (it's rather hard to figure from your two onomatopoeiae), but you cannot deny his position in the esteem of the general public. Just like I can't deny that George Lucas is probably the single most influential filmmaker alive today -- just because I think he's crap doesn't make that less true.

You can argue whether or not he DESERVES the position, but not whether or not he has it.

EpShot

10-13-2005, 08:35 PM

Er...

Hmm.

i so know what you mean, i just hated:

schindler's list
Saving private ryan
ET
Close encounters of the third kind
Jaws
Minority report
Indiana jones
the color purple
Empire of the sun
dual
and especialy jurrasic park

Lunatique

10-14-2005, 04:46 AM

Er...

Hmm.

Feel free to name another director who is alive currently, and commands the same power in the film industry, has the same vast financial resources, has the same boxoffice records, won the same amount of film awards, is talked about as much, and is as widely known by name and by face across the planet earth. Name just one.

visionmaster2

10-14-2005, 07:21 AM

Charles Band ?

Dirtystimpy

10-14-2005, 07:31 AM

Feel free to name another director who is alive currently, and commands the same power in the film industry, has the same vast financial resources, has the same boxoffice records, won the same amount of film awards, is talked about as much, and is as widely known by name and by face across the planet earth. Name just one.

100% agree

the only other person I can think of that comes remotely close is Robert Zemekis

sure, there are a bunch of newer, younger directors, but no one commands the above, like steven, george, and bob.

Kai01W

10-14-2005, 03:14 PM

german newspaper reports he is going to work on games with EA:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/,tt5m3/kultur/artikel/463/62401/

sorry in german.

-k

Nemoid

10-14-2005, 03:32 PM

yeah Spielberg is a great director. he explored different fields in movie genres with some great results as well : think to "the jaw", Indiana Jones , and Save private Ryan. differnt genres, still great movies.

however, Mr Peter Jackson seems to be another one which could grow great just like Spielberg :thumbsup:

Pentagramma

10-14-2005, 03:40 PM

JonM

10-14-2005, 03:49 PM

(english links)

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000517063307/

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9690079/

He is going to join EA... wonder if thats related

Boone

10-14-2005, 04:52 PM

I don't really see Spielburg as the pioneering type - I'd give that to Lucas... :hmm:

Hugh-Jass

10-14-2005, 04:54 PM

He is going to join EA... wonder if thats related

I couldn't call that joining so much as collaborating

doomdragon

10-14-2005, 05:09 PM

He wants to suck the audience into a movie, and he works with EA.
Woohoo, he will invent videogames! :applause:

edit: considering the siemens e-paper news it might also be a movie in wallpaper form with which you decorate your wall for an amazing 360° viewing pleasure. Awesome :thumbsup:

heavyness

10-14-2005, 06:02 PM

german newspaper reports he is going to work on games with EA:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/,tt5m3/kultur/artikel/463/62401/

sorry in german.

-k

maybe he is making a movie/game at the same time. maybe the movie will end the game... i don't see why everyone is jumping down his throat about it, let man invent, let him try new things. its not effecting you in anyway. i don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over movies and video games, but yet governments pass laws that effect you financially and or physically [health] and you couldn't care less.

turn you pc off and go outside.

Boone

10-14-2005, 08:31 PM

Maybe he wants to make the first movie that holds 3D information? :shrug:

They've done it with audio, maybe its time to do the same for visual... :hmm:

kabojnk

10-14-2005, 08:35 PM

I bet he just rigged 6 cameras facing 6 different directions and called it 3d film.

Flip_Render

10-16-2005, 12:21 AM

Storytelling in itself should suck people in to the film.
Nowdays the methods of influence are so evolved as they are, using psychology and a like.

But tech-wise it's really hard to speculate anything, but there are other alternatives to relgular audio/visual perception to convoy / evoke a feeling. I'm on a wild goose chase here, but there actually are more direct ways to evoke an emotion.
Here is one patented tecnique, which is using specific frequencys. A link to US patent office: United States Patent 5,289,438 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,289,438.WKU.&OS=PN/5,289,438&RS=PN/5,289,438)
Why would these kind of techniques be any less acceptable, than the old trade of influence techniques used all the time in advertising, art and storytelling? There is always a reason why a certain stimulus causes a reaction.

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