female face, need help

[Euphrosyne]

Nice sketch, It's a very nice face. The only thing I see that I would change is the arch of the eyebrows, they seem a little to rounded and high in the middle. Some women paint their own eyebrows this way but it doesn't look natural. Are you going for a soft foggy look or are you going to bring out more details? I really like the fur jacket.

[ajay1589]

the lips seems way to large for her face, and i notice that the page is called "asiangirl" is that the kind of look your going for?

[hachiman]

cheers for the comments guys, yeh the lips are to big and thats easy to adjust so i'll do that first. The eye brows i'm not really sure about so i'll tweak them and have a geeze. The soft foggy look is there because i still learning how to add more detail to the skin without it looking, i'm not sure how to put it but "weird", if anyone knows how to add skin texture etc it'd be handy.

however if i can get alittle more detail in and fix the jacket up i'd be happy with the current "look". i'll make the adjustments soon and post updated links.

[hachiman]

aight, after uni exams a dislocated knee i'm back drawing again, heres an updated version of the previous picture *link above*

http://www.geekimages.com/pics/20051114/face.jpg (reduced quality and dodgy edges for some reason)

[Kargokultti]

The fur has a really nice furry feeling, but the problem with the face is that the parts seem disconnected.

Looks like you're not painting an eye but a kind of a symbol for an eye. Where are the eyelids, for instance?

Try to see the face as a sculpture. You don't just stick a ready-made nose on a round ball. You dig it out from marble, wood or, say, pixels on a screen.

[hachiman]

alirghty, yeh the fur was really easy just layered/diff coloured brushes (i'm limited to a mouse).
i hope i interpreted the last post properly, carving out. adding depth and details with shading and colour changes?. this any better?

[Kargokultti]

Yeh, better. Sorry, I was being a bit cryptic there. Though this is hardly going to be any better:

I might be wrong, but I'm guessing you were thinking about the face in bits: first an oval light area, then the eyes, the nose, the mouth. So you end up making a kind of a sign for e.g. the nose.

The thing is, a face is like a terrain. There's caverns, wet ares, plains. A nose is not a nose, it's a mountain, albeit a weirdly shaped and pink one. But like mountains, there are no two noses that're alike. So every time you want to pull a realistic nose from your brain, you really have to dig in the grey matter and make one up.

So keep thinking of those caverns.:arteest:

But considering you've gotten this far with a mouse, what you have now is very good. Be careful you don't get carpal tunnel syndrome.

[hachiman]

ahahah yeh my hand does get sore from time to time, but christmas is coming up and i might get my hands on a small drawing tablet which i think may help or atleast be less annoying.


yeh your right, thats how i started drawing it. A simple skin colour in the shape of a face then just mucking about with the burn/dodge/saturation tool in photoshop to draw the shapes of facial features which is probably a method/habbit of shading left over from doing tech drawing at school. i should probably hunt down some tutorials and what not. Thanks a heap for comments, its helping. I find muscles easier to draw example, theres even vascularity on the forarm images/icons/icon6.gif its a bit cartoony but you know.

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