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richdraws
10-09-2005, 11:17 PM
Never really experimented with environment work, I dont think this sits right yet. Need more detail or style I dunno. Anyone wanna offer crit?

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5376/environment17qm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


Cheers

Rich

updated image moe contrast and a touch more detail











http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8273/environment21yc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1630/environment37zp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

lmenezes
10-09-2005, 11:45 PM
looks nice, perhaps missing some human characters or animals.

HellBoy
10-09-2005, 11:54 PM
Really nice

perhaps wanna give more foggy near the water fall, just a idea :lightbulb :thumbsup:

Shin Tsuki
10-10-2005, 07:05 AM
looks good to me, but i'm not sure I'd show the sky in the upper right.

Zodiac
10-10-2005, 11:58 AM
I think it is perfectly executed . If it is your first trial I am sending you my respects. You dont need much to do.

although I might add a few critics. I think the picture is lacking a lot of contrast in the saturation and light-dark issues. It should, if you think that our angle has a light source behind the camera. Still there might be actual dark areas or spots in a valley like this. I dont know if the low contrast is made on purpose ? for A misty effect? Especially the left side could have been a lot darker than the right side because it is getting quite like a silhouette for the light source. also you might saturate the sky a bit to make the hills pop-up and impress the viewer.
For a last you can add sharp shadows and highlights that has no soft edges. you can add them on the edges of sharp rocks for example or water is a very glossy thing even if it is hell dark it would find a way to shine if it is a waterfall or bouncing somewhere you can use this.

keep up the good work.

richdraws
10-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the kind words - I am looking at the piece now at my work desk. My home monitor must be shot because the contrast seems a lot stronger there. I will fix that and post another version of the image with stronger contrast and some updates very soon.

Hugs and kisses

Rich

mrloco
10-10-2005, 04:21 PM
The environment is very nice, it reminds me of goro's port tutorial. I agree with the comment about the skiy i the top right. it looks as if you didn't finish that spot. Maybe a tree would look nice in that spot. The difference incolor is not necessarily your monitor's fault. It might simply be the color settings in catalysts / detonators. cheers

JMcWilliams
10-11-2005, 12:12 AM
Ahhh, environments, my favourite :D
It's a nice start,

I think the colours are quite dull and need more saturation. At the moment it is quite flat because there is no sense of an atmosphere (ie, air and the effects that come with it. The further objects in a scene will have more haze than the foregound for example).

Keep it up! :D

authentic
10-11-2005, 10:42 AM
I like this image. Nice. Some crits to improve it.
I agree with the personn who said you shouldn't show the sky on to right corner. No interest;
Some crits on the water. She seems to much to follow a path. If you have rectangular corner form it would works but here you have very irregular way to go; So the water cannot fall so strait if she had take speed before; Add some drops.
Also agree with the fact you can have more contrast.
I also think the fire could illuminate more on the sides of it, not only the ground because we are in a dark area.

I like the castle at background

Good luck

richdraws
10-12-2005, 10:05 AM
I updated the post last night with a more saturated version. I altered the sky, worked into the rock.

I know there is more that needs to be done. But am not sure what. I intend to close the gap at the top right of the image though.

Any ideas people?

Hugs and kisses

Rich

Zodiac
10-12-2005, 01:22 PM
I think it is very beautiful and quite finished now. The rest is up to how much more detail you can put into this picture.(dark silhouettes of birds and characters.. some branches or more cracks on the rocks, a suiciding princess falling off the hill, bungee-jumping trolls , red eyes shining in the waterfall (just kidding) etc.)

And by the way I discovered a scale mistake that I am not so sure about . It is quite like a 2D illusion in your picture . When we look at the bottom part of the picture closing the upper part, we can see the log /the fallen tree is getting into the waterfall on the right, not at a long distance away..quite like a 30-40 meters from its roots approximetly. I understand it from the diameter of the log at the point that it intersects with waterflow. also the size of camping fire is telling me that it is a big tree but not a giant giant tree. now if you look at the upper part closing the bottom we see a castle-like building on the left hill which represents a very big thing and because of its size, the hill seems so away and the right hill is again so far corresponding the left hill .they are at the same axis because the hills have the same color scheme. and you can think that the waterfall is a giant waterfall far away comparing to the castle.

so the waterfall is so far in the upper part but it is very close in the lower part. And the transition is very smooth that it is not much felt but.. something disturbs . and again I am not that sure about it ... it kinda seems right. hehe.:)

if I were you I wouldn t intersect the tree with waterfall and put some air color in between to show that tree is at the front. it is up to you again many people wouldnt even bother.

richdraws
10-12-2005, 02:05 PM
Mmmmmmmmmm.

I am no Escher - they are honest to goodness mistakes. I suppose its because I didnt work from reference or use a sketch to start from. Always a bad idea for me.

I will have a play with the tree intersecting with the waterfall and see if it works the way you suggest.

Thanks for the crit.

hugs and kisses


Rich

richdraws
10-13-2005, 10:55 PM
Updated the post - added more detail and texture and think its looking better now.

Any crit?

Rich

Stampede
10-13-2005, 11:34 PM
hehe, i like it SO much! Great idea!

i'm not interested in coment the composition coz i'm not able to tell you more than the others posts, but i'm minding the campfire can light more that root, and i'll love see more green in that area. hehe i'm not sure if it can be possible or realist, but i love oversatured paints...
Good luck, this is great!!

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