Really awesome Narnia VFX Preview

[Nathellion]

Really awesome indeed. I need to learn how to do that kind of stuff. :D

[Shaderhacker]

Unbelievable! It's gonna own. :bounce:


-M

[scrimski]

ohmeeegod, I have to see this. Did I get that right, ILM, WETA and Rhythm&Hues on the same project? Any chance to learn more about this?

[leigh]

ohmeeegod, I have to see this. Did I get that right, ILM, WETA and Rhythm&Hues on the same project? Any chance to learn more about this?

Weta were only involved in props and costumes. The CGI is being done mostly by ILM, R+H and Sony Picture Imageworks.

[Seven]

That is astonishing.

[PaulAdams]

I wasn't too interested in seeing this film before, now I can't wait. Believable centaurs, wooha! The Lion looks insane too.

Good find.

[chadtheartist]

That cg test of the lion was pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing this Leigh.

[phobos78]

ooooooh, look at that Lion!! (o: :bounce:

[Shaderhacker]

That cg test of the lion was pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing this Leigh.

I have to congratulate R&H and all the other VFX studios involved in this - it is going to be awesome!!!

-M

[chadtheartist]

I didn't mean to imply that everything else wasn't great, because it was all awesome! I was just floored by the cg test. It looked composited, but it looked like they blended a real lion in with the shot.

R & H did an amazing job with the weight of him. It actually gives me some ideas on how to model better too. Looking at the wire frame, you can see how light it is. I like seeing stuff like that as it really answers a lot of questions as to the why's and how's of things. I wonder if they did the muscle system first, and built the model around that, or if they built the model, and did the muscle system afterwards?

Either way, I spent all lunch break watching it frame by frame. heh

[rblitz7]

HOLY SH*T!!! That was FU**IN ILL!!!:eek::eek:That lion is beyond words.

[laureato di arte]

The movie wont load i want to cry because i have been waiting to see more on narnia and now i cant:sad:

[heney]

I saw this last week and man it's amazing. Aslan looks great, but what I was most worried about, the talking animal aspect was breathtaking. I can't believe how great Mr. Beaver looked. It could've easily turned into another Racing Stripes or even Garfield. But they seem to have found a perfect balance between realism and squash and stretch. I'm impressed.

[Sollesnes]

I think it's been posted, but the video..woah.
Can't wait. I remember I loved Narnia when I were a kid. :)

[monovich]

thanks for the link!

.. ... ... ... .. downloading .. ... .. . ......

[zugz]

I am speechless. The CG test blew my mind. I can't wait for this film to come out. The animation is incredible, but thats what i expect from them. I only hope someday that I have the skills and talents of these animators.

[Milho]

I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch this movie after I saw the first trailer some time ago.....CONVINCED NOW :applause:

[Stoehr]

I feel sick.

[erilaz]

That's pretty damn impressive. I bet there were a few hairs lost making Aslan!

[KolbyJukes]

those Aslan shots are insane.

[Hoser]

Wow, that looks good. I think I'll have to check out those books again. Haven't looked at them since I was about 10 or 11.
Thanks for sharing Leigh!

[ColbyBuss]

if you go to www.comingsoon.net you can see many more upcoming movie releases, along with their trailers before they even hit the screen, and tv

[smoothoperator]

The lion is just georgeous! Amazing job. It totally looks for real. Heck it looks better than real. Amazing job.

[DorkmanScott]

Looks perfect. Just like a storybook come to life.

I have to admit, from their past work I didn't put a lot of faith in R&H to knock this out of the park -- or even get a double -- but if the film looks even close to that throughout, we're talking grand slam. :thumbsup:

//never watches baseball, doesn't know why that was the analogy

[MrPositive]

Guffah! That is incredible! November can't get here soon enough.

[rblitz7]

Anyone know what program they used to make the lion?

[remcv8]

That was cool. Now I want read the books.

[talos72]

R&H was actually responsible for Aslan and the battlefield Massive sequences. :) It's gonna be a cool looking film, and I am glad to have been a part of it. Wait till you see the sequence with the Gryphons!

[DorkmanScott]

Anyone know what program they used to make the lion?

I'm guessing they used God | Given "Talent". With some personalized plug-ins, of course. :D

Seriously though, the timecode on the beavers said Maya, guessing same for Aslan.

M. Scott

[Ac0rN]

that lion surely looks photo real :eek: , great hair movement, altho... you can still se its cg somehow, maybe cuz we're told that it is.... :D

[gavin_hughes]

Anyone know what program they used to make the lion?

u should ask who made the lion.. not the bloody program.. programs cant make stuff unless people "make" them.

savvy?

--the end...

[talos72]

Aslan was pretty much modeled, rigged and animated (including all the fur) using Rhythm and Hues' inhouse custom tools mainly Voodoo. Some modelling may have been done in Maya. The animators kicked ass on him.

[DorkmanScott]

Damn, between R&H blowing me away with Aslan, Chris Columbus doing RENT justice, comedy director Mike Newell nailing the action in HP4...I might as well just cook up a big old crow to eat this Thanksgiving instead of turkey. :eek:

[Gangstashers]

Wow the lion came out better then i suspected.

Verry awsome this!

anyone know what software they used?


Sheherryar

[DorkmanScott]

anyone know what software they used?


Sheherryar

Check the post two above yours.

[Aedilhum]

Wow, Everything looks awesome, especially the lion and centaur tests.
I love the books, looks like their doing them justice. Can't wait!

[Jaycee77]

That looks awesome...I can't wait for this to come out. I wish I could work on something like this...

[gardogg]

This was one of my favorite childhood book series. I definitely will have to go see this!

[kurtw]

I'm guessing they used God | Given "Talent". With some personalized plug-ins, of course. :D

Seriously though, the timecode on the beavers said Maya, guessing same for Aslan.

M. Scott

Rhythm and Hues proprietary animation software is used for Aslan, along with the other characters R+H has worked on.

[adonihs]

I'm sorry to bring this parade down, but I just am not too impressed with the work. A lot of the cg characters look pale because of whacky shaders, which cause them to look less saturated than the world around them. Aslan only looks alright to me, I mean even the CG test looks weird. He's so high contrast compared to the dark toned characters, but then again..its Rythem and Hues, those head of Daredevil. *Sigh*

Don't even get me started on the beavers.

I hate to be so negative, and I respect all the teams work, but they should have just had Sony Imageworks or ILM, or in my opinon, Weta; to do the visual effects on standalone, not collab all the teams. Because then some shots are really well done! While others...are not.

I guess if I want to be truly impressed, I'll wait for King Kong or ..Halo, which WETA has full control over. Which even astounds me that no one updates this forum with Kongisking.net web blogs, which are ten folds better!


Oh and one more thing I forgot to add, Shrek 1 and 2 were brilliant, but it looks like the director is trying to bring the world of Shrek, into the "real world" which causes a terrible look. Compare and contrast Narnia and Lord of the Rings. Everything looks so new and shiney..while Lord of the Rings has depth and age.

Just my two cents, hopefully I won't get bashed for my opnions.

[kurtw]

I'm sorry to bring this parade down, but I just am not too impressed with the work. A lot of the cg characters look pale because of whacky shaders, which cause them to look less saturated than the world around them. Aslan only looks alright to me, I mean even the CG test looks weird. He's so high contrast compared to the dark toned characters, but then again..its Rythem and Hues, those head of Daredevil. *Sigh*

Just my two cents, hopefully I won't get bashed for my opnions.

I seem to recall another thread with cgi lions which quickly vanished with the general theme of people rushing to judgement.

Most footage in these promotional clips are months old, aren't final shots, and are not color timed. Color timing is one of the last steps performed on a feature film. Judging unfinished work, especially on the internet, is short sighted. Resolutions are scaled up and down, color values are crushed, and the generally the vendors who work on these shots have no say on what the marketing guys do with the material.

That being said theres going to be many cool films coming out over the next few months!

[adonihs]

I seem to recall another thread with cgi lions which quickly vanished with the general theme of people rushing to judgement.

Most footage in these promotional clips are months old, aren't final shots, and are not color timed. Color timing is one of the last steps performed on a feature film. Judging unfinished work, especially on the internet, is short sighted. Resolutions are scaled up and down, color values are crushed, and the generally the vendors who work on these shots have no say on what the marketing guys do with the material.

This Fall and Winter is going to be cool for films.

I know what color grading is, my friend does it for films with such programs as Combustion and Inferno. And I agree with you on that part, that's why I will wait for the final version, but I'm going to go with my instinct (some to you, ignorant, which I understand) and take it that, most of these shots, are more than likely finished(color wise).

And yes, some might be months old, but in my honest opinon, I don't think that Aslan is going to change too much, sadly..

Again, enough with what I say though, hopefully it'll be a great film, I have no beef with the story, just with a handful of the shots and one of the teams, thats all.

:shrug:

[archie1181]

Yeah Aslan looks really amazing. Well, he really should and must look amazing because it took the artists 2 years just making him.:buttrock:

[archie1181]

Yeah Aslan looks really amazing. Well, he really should and must look amazing because it took the artists 2 years just making him.:buttrock: I can't wait to watch this movie... *DROOL*

[SePu]

wow wow wow ....
this look awesome ..... i cant wait !!!
great VFX, freeking cool .... CG ...

[superlayer]

Most impressive.
I got the chills after watching it.
The lion is unbelievable.
Hopefully this will set a new standard for things to come.

I was amazed by the cgbattle it looked fresh compared to troy, alexander and lotr.

I have great hopes for this movie.

[superlayer]

The movie is coming out on my birthday. :D

[beaker]

I know what color grading is, my friend does it for films with such programs as Combustion and Inferno.Thats pretty funny since DI isn't done on Inferno or Combustion.

[leigh]

Compare and contrast Narnia and Lord of the Rings. Everything looks so new and shiney..while Lord of the Rings has depth and age.

I think this is understandable, considering that the Narnia stories themselves are kinda squeaky-clean. Considering that these films will not have the violence and darkness that LOTR has, I am not surprised that they've chosen a brighter, cleaner look for Narnia.

[rblitz7]

u should ask who made the lion.. not the bloody program.. programs cant make stuff unless people "make" them.

savvy?

--the end...
yes I know its the people, I was just asking which program they used.....:rolleyes:

[maxrelics]

A friend of mine from this board is working on the movie :)

He's doing some of the fluid sim stuff, I think.

[navate]

Oh, goodness... I'm so happy this looks good. :D I adore the Narnia books, so I was very apprehensive when I heard a movie was being made. Too many awesome novels get butchered by film, and the amount of fantastical things happening in the book gave so much room for disater as far as effects went. It looks like it's in good hands. :]

[adonihs]

Thats pretty funny since DI isn't done on Inferno or Combustion.

Lustre, is the program that they use to color grade films, if you want to get technical. And Inferno can also be used for color grading, if you're not going to spend thousands of dollars. It can be done, he can use selective colors on the paint brush, changing colors/brightness on a certian actors face, only making water more blue but keeping the greens the same time, in short: it's possible, you just have to manually, you just have to operate it.


I've seen it first hand, so please dont tell me what can/can't be done. Thank you.

I think this is understandable, considering that the Narnia stories themselves are kinda squeaky-clean. Considering that these films will not have the violence and darkness that LOTR has, I am not surprised that they've chosen a brighter, cleaner look for Narnia.

Meh, if they do that, then that's fine. Doesn't change my opinon on the way it looks, I want to have a history behind something, not some brand new armor just bought at a costume store. And in NO way am I blamming WETA for this, or, who I consider a legend, Richard Taylor. This is the directors fault, and his only. It just looks way too fancy.

In a nuttshell, I go into a movie to be taken to a different place, I do art so I can show people something different. I can't go into a movie, with an amazing story, and have terrible visual aspects of it, hand in hand it doesnt go together.

Again, my two cents.

[Shaderhacker]

A lot of the cg characters look pale because of whacky shaders, which cause them to look less saturated than the world around them.

This isn't the shaders. Try compositing.


Aslan only looks alright to me, I mean even the CG test looks weird. He's so high contrast compared to the dark toned characters, but then again..its Rythem and Hues, those head of Daredevil. *Sigh*

To each his own, but R&H (IMO) did a great job with Aslan.

not collab all the teams. Because then some shots are really well done! While others...are not.

This is practically impossible with a film that has over 1400 VFX shots. Even so, a lot of the bigger budget films will always see some collaboration.


Everything looks so new and shiney..while Lord of the Rings has depth and age.

Probably an artistic decision.


-M

[adonihs]

My friend wants to share his thoughts:

"Hi I'm adonihs's friend, I have been doing 3D FOR A LONGGG TIME I'm no professional but ive self taught myself compositing, rendering, shaders ect. The lion imo looks awesome, the hair system the bone system and the animators they have behind it, dunno if its keyframed or not or even ai animation. BUt as far as I'm concerned the colors being wrong can both me the compositing AND the shaders and other numerous things, 3D isnt supposed to come out rendered amazing (i know you guys all know that) but the compositing is really important for the integration of the lion into the live footage, obviously it looks incredible but its colors are slightly off, its highlights are off but then I have an opinion, but thats just THE COLORS aka the contrast and its highlights and midtones and shadows, 3D wise ITS INCREDIBLE, if I had that plate in my compositing proggie I think I could've done better, I don't forget tho its meant as a TEST, and a test.. well is a test. That and I hate narnia... lol I just think it looks too clean like everything is like 2 years old, nothing looks worn or maybe im just drunk...

My opinion guys, im no professional but that doesn't mean I have no idea what I'm saying.

Peace. -nico- 3D/animation/compositing/color keying/good sex. "


Well that was from my friend, and I still don't agree on Aslan though, except one point. It is an amazing model, but it still doesnt composite right into the film, I'll wait till I see the film to complain anymore.

Go kong 2005?

[Romero]

Really looking forward to this one. The Minataur looks insane!

[aaron111]

Aslan kicks ass in that test. That's also the first Centaur I've seen that doesn't look totally pasted together (or just totally cartoony-fake i.e. harry potter's full CG centaurs). I hope the look will be consistant with 3 VFX studios working on it, but so far it looks promising.

[adonihs]

Aslan kicks ass in that test. That's also the first Centaur I've seen that doesn't look totally pasted together (or just totally cartoony-fake i.e. harry potter's full CG centaurs). I hope the look will be consistant with 3 VFX studios working on it, but so far it looks promising.

Oh yes, I completely forgot.

the centaurs, do look amazing.

[nitindesign]

The movie wont load i want to cry because i have been waiting to see more on narnia and now i cant:sad:

It would not load for me as well so just right click on the link and save. Then it plays ok from the HD :thumbsup:

[slaughters]

It's a series of childrens books with fantasy land characters and talking animals. I would expect a different visual approach to this than what was done with Lord of the Rings.

Besides, wouldn't that just be boring? Seeing another Lord of the Rings rip-off/visual effect?

Kind of like when you saw your N'th WarCraft Orc model on CGTalk.

P.S. Looks like another great movie Franchise is about to be launched!

[RockinAkin]

Holy crap those are some amazing effects.
Getting more and more anxious for this to come out!

Congrats to everyone workin on the film.

[Shaderhacker]

BUt as far as I'm concerned the colors being wrong can both me the compositing AND the shaders and other numerous things,

My opinion guys, im no professional but that doesn't mean I have no idea what I'm saying.



Well, I am a professional and I still say it's not any error in the shaders. If they intentionally turned up the post-gamma after evaluating the shader, then that's an artistic decision - NOT from the shaders being "outta whack".

-M

[gunslingerblack]

so i dont really think it was safe for those two girls to be walking next to that lion...im glad noone was hurt.....


omfg

[Capel]

I have no beef with the story, just with a handful of the shots and one of the teams, thats all.

:shrug:

Sounds like SOMEONE'S been rejected from R&H recently.... :hmm:

[chlywly]

little more to say except this looks incredible and i'm sure its going to be a hit, likely on par if not far better than LOTR :)

I was always a fan of the story as a child and this movie looks like its going to do it justice :)

The lion, well, all of the characters look superb, simply real :)

[Larry_g1s]

:eek: SO BEAUUUUUTTTIFULLL. I just started cracking up when I saw Aslan (the lion), it just looked so freakin' real. Absolutely amazing. This is actually the first I've seen of the movie, I've gotta see this now!

I've never seen anything like that cg test with the lion and the girls. Amazing.

[LoTekK]

Holy GOD. I've been looking forward to this movie for a long time coming, and these VFX shots look positively insane. Aslan and the centaur, as mentioned, look incredible. Now I'm just hoping they don't bork one of my favorite pieces of childhood literature.

[adonihs]

Sounds like SOMEONE'S been rejected from R&H recently.... :hmm:

I'm not into 3d/computer generated art, so no..I've never even applied for the company. It's my opinon on which company I like, and that gives you no right to come at me with an insult. Thank you.

[Gord-MacDonald]

I hope these mind-blowing effects, serve a greater purpose of telling one of the most magical stories in the English language in all of its majesty and beauty.

I am waiting with baited breath!

Gord

[IntoTheMango]

Somehow the movie doesn't load, server problem?!

Damn need to see how good this is can anyone provide another link??? thanx

[IntoTheMango]

Nevermind, it works now, somehow it couldn't download when using FireFox browser, but works fine when I change over to IE, anyway great clip and love that LION, can't wait for the movie to come out !

[umbrellasky]

I saw a short clip a few weeks ago, stunning stuff! I can't wait to see this film :D

[laureato di arte]

wHOOAAAHHHOOAAa

I have been waiting for this movie for so long. I was so afraid because i thought they would have people dressed up like beavers like they did in the old bbc television seriese, but whoaaa. all i can say isss whooaaaa im so exited .



and whooaaaa

[jbw]

wHOOAAAHHHOOAAa

I have been waiting for this movie for so long. I was so afraid because i thought they would have people dressed up like beavers like they did in the old bbc television seriese, but whoaaa. all i can say isss whooaaaa im so exited .
and whooaaaa
That BBC series was quality - all the costumes just added to the entertainment value! :)
But then I have been waiting for this film all my life, the Narnia series of books are all I remember reading as a child.
I say well done to all companies involved and thank them for bringing it to the screen. :thumbsup:

ta,
jbw

[Piddu]

Absolutely fantastic! :scream:

[3DChobo]

Can't wait to see it!!!

[oscar.alvarez]

what happens to all the people in hollywood? dont have own ideas?


When I was child i read two of the books of "narnia" (there are more). I liked them very much. They were written by C.S.Lewis , a close friend of J.R.R Tolkien.

People at Hollywood should find for new creative people, cause they are running out of ideas .. ^_^

[Aids]

That BBC series was quality


yer i agree it was quality BAD quality maybe its because i loved to book so much but that was absolute crap

[leigh]

what happens to all the people in hollywood? dont have own ideas?


When I was child i read two of the books of "narnia" (there are more). I liked them very much. They were written by C.S.Lewis , a close friend of J.R.R Tolkien.

People at Hollywood should find for new creative people, cause they are running out of ideas .. ^_^

:surprised

[morphine]

:surprised
My thoughts exactly.

Well, I think it's great we had somebody from R&H posting here so he can give us a true insight of what's happening in the production of this feature, so thank you Kurt Williams for posting here.
That said, I think this movie has got to have the BIGGEST behind the scenes complementary stuff on its future DVDs ever movie has ever had.
I'm as anxious for it as so many people certainly are.

Leigh, thank you for posting the video in the first place.
I saw it a couple of days ago, but this is truly the right place for people to see and appreciate it.

[nataz]

arrrr! the link is messed up. Any mirror?

[Goro]

breathtaking....
:eek: :cry: :scream: :argh: :buttrock:

[TumikSmacker]

I just crapped myself :(

[AaronVeale]

Simply amazing!
Cants wait

[HellBoy]

I've got to say, I watched this clip and hay, this is the type of CG that really inspires me

Really awesome, how many Studios did he say was involved

[JacquesD]

That's CG test of Aslan in the street is definitely insane.
I think when you have talented people, budget, time and technologie, that couldn't really be otherwise.

Too bad only very few have these opportunities.

The ripper.

[Cageman]

This is just amazing! That Lion... man... wow!

Here is a link to the qt:

http://hangar18.campus.luth.se/~cageman/vfx/ (http://hangar18.campus.luth.se/%7Ecageman/vfx/)

[vfx]

This was already posted on CGCHANNEL... But hey now we can discuss it here too!

Aslan does look absolutely stunning - When I first saw the first trailer - I thought it was a real lion - and when I saw that test!!! OMG - This is without doubt the best animal fx I have ever seen!!

Well done to the trio - and congrats on such a great team effort!

P.S. Something still bothers me about this film - it looks like high quality television as apposed to film quality - everything is too perfect and clean - theres no darkness to it - or gritty-ness. Time will tell - but I'm guessing that this will remain for younger audiences.

P.S.S. Ripper I couldn't agree with you more - time and talent rarely are allowed to exceed beyond the call of money! When it does the boundaries are pushed -

[loocas]

HOLY F***ING JESUS! :buttrock: :buttrock:

That was wicked awesome!

I wanna work at IL&M or R&H!!! :D

[Bentagon]

That said, I think this movie has got to have the BIGGEST behind the scenes complementary stuff on its future DVDs ever movie has ever had.So you haven't been following the KongIsKing.net weblogs, have you? :D

But anyways, I agree with most of the opinions here... CG looks stunning, but there's something strange with the ultraclean look. But I haven't read the books - actually, I hadn't even heard of them before I heard about this film - so I'm not the best judge on whether or not this style will fit the story.

I'll definitly be keeping an eye on this.

- Benjamin

[morphine]

So you haven't been following the KongIsKing.net weblogs, have you? :D

Of course I have! I was talking about Narnia. XD

[morphine]

arrrr! the link is messed up. Any mirror?
That movie and all the other Narnia featurettes can be found here (http://www.narniafans.com/movies/mov_prev.php), though the first one and the last one are the only "important" ones.

[rrobert]

Must be a truly owesome movie! I'm hading directly to the cinema when it is out to see in cinemas!! :thumbsup:

Amazing CG, ow man what a world! Don't we just love technology? :)

[willbrown]

To all those dissing the "look".

Read the book. Aslan creates the whole world by singing it into existence. This might explain the newly minted look of things.

I just think it's plain silly to judge anything by looking at test shots. I remember seeing the Hulk trailer and expecting the CG to be dissappointing. To me it was WAY better than what was on the trailer.

[beaker]

I'm not into 3d/computer generated art, so no..I've never even applied for the company. It's my opinon on which company I like, and that gives you no right to come at me with an insult. Thank you.The way it works in this industry is over 3/4 of the staff at any company is never the same from one year to the next. So 1/3 of the people at R&H are the same exact people at Sony 2 years later and the same for Weta. Actually Weta especially because 1/2 their staff joins the company in the last 6 months of production and many of them are from R&H, Sony, DD, etc....

Thats why many professionals giving you crap are confused with your singling out of R&H and also naming Daredevil in the same breath. Most of the people doing Aslan probably aren't even the same people that did Daredevil. It's a director thing, not a company thing.

[Wilson-3d]

Man am I pumped for this one. Looks great.

[rybeck]

Thanks for million Leigh...
Wow, it looks amazing...can't wait to see film...

[MartinGFoster]

The way it works in this industry is over 3/4 of the staff at any company is never the same from one year to the next. So 1/3 of the people at R&H are the same exact people at Sony 2 years later and the same for Weta. Actually Weta especially because 1/2 their staff joins the company in the last 6 months of production and many of them are from R&H, Sony, DD, etc....

well said, Deke. I'm at R&H now but I've worked at Sony 4 times over the years. Lots of the current freelance staff on "Narnia" at R&H is from Weta, ILM, DD and Sony. After this show wraps, many will be moving on. Probably to Sony because they have tons of work.

Having some kind of "brand loyalty" to a VFX house is a bit silly and pointless. The brain trust that goes into these movies is constantly being cross-pollinated between companies anyway.

Only a few weeks to go .....
:bounce:

[TwitchyHamster]

Ahhhhhh....

It looks amazing!

I can't wait to see the final product.

I also couldn't help but think while I watched that..."so...I'm a game artist huh...hmm maybe I should focus else where." lol!

Honestly makes me want to get into the film industry side of things.

Kudos everyone to everyone working on this project.

-Twitchy

[beaker]

Having some kind of "brand loyalty" to a VFX house is a bit silly and pointless. The brain trust that goes into these movies is constantly being cross-pollinated between companies anyway.Yea, I have worked on 8 different movies at 5 different companies over the last 2 years. The same is true of most of my coworkers on any one project. We "whore" ourselves out to whoever is looking for employees at any one time.

[mattcioffi]

holy F -how about that lion?:eek:

[TopherMartini]

holy F -how about that lion?:eek:
Amen.... Their realization of Aslan is extremely powerful and convincing, it doesn't even look CG.

[Bentagon]

Of course I have! I was talking about Narnia. XDI know... that's my point. How can Narnia exceed Kong's DVD extras, when Kong has already got TONS of making of footage edited?

- Benjamin

[abhifx]

IT IS JUST AMAZING............ :scream:

[tetujin]

just to say... the lion test is from summer of '04... aslan's had a lot of time to improve since then. :)

[adonihs]

I know... that's my point. How can Narnia exceed Kong's DVD extras, when Kong has already got TONS of making of footage edited?

- Benjamin

Amen to you.

[alivegy]

Amen to you.

Holy crap you'll bitch about anything won't you? Neither movie has even come to theater yet and you're already getting saying which one is going to have better DVD feautres. THE MOVIES AREN'T DONE!

[reven]

good to see that this film is really going to be worth waiting for

[seven6ty]

Wow, it's funny to see the old Aslan render, his mane has improved A LOT since then.

And yeah, most of these shots haven't had all their color balancing and lighting/roto work completed, so don't judge those things too much just from what you're seeing now.

[leigh]

Oi, no bickering please folks. Let's keep this thread constructive.

[Rafael Capucho]

The work be really perfect! =)

[strangelife]

Really inspiring work there. Fascinating.

[ayeager]

well said, Deke. I'm at R&H now but I've worked at Sony 4 times over the years. Lots of the current freelance staff on "Narnia" at R&H is from Weta, ILM, DD and Sony. After this show wraps, many will be moving on. Probably to Sony because they have tons of work.

Having some kind of "brand loyalty" to a VFX house is a bit silly and pointless. The brain trust that goes into these movies is constantly being cross-pollinated between companies anyway.



I concure. Its funny that adonihs says he has such a problem with R&H and confidence in Sony but then goes on to trash the beavers (done by Sony) and laud the centaurs (done by R&H, particullarly in the clips he is refering to). Like they say in the featurette, all the companies are trading shots back and forth with work by multiple companys IN THE SAME SHOT.

[Slurry]

That was outstanding. If the directing and acting meet the same standards as the fx this is going to be an incredible cinematic experience!

Art

[webhead]

This film looks better and better the more I see of it! :buttrock:

[Slurry]

Now that LOTR is over, I am glad to have some Christmas movies to look forward to. Kong and Aslan, the beasts will rule the box office!


Art ;)

[chrisWhite]

Wow, that was stunning; I'm so excited to see it. Aslan looks amazing, and what's more, He does Narnia justice!


So my geek rating is about to go through the roof, but I'm actually going to be dressing up as Lewis for opening night...:)

[Phrenzy84]

awesome stuff, cant wait to see this. Never want to hear studios dont use Nurbs hehe.

Aslan is amazing. wonder why R&H were driving massive on this show.........hmmm.... either they bought it or Weta are too busy on King Kong. (the more likely situation)

Either way there are gonna be two great movies to go and see this christmas.

[Darktwin]

Wow, simply amazing work, the lions muscle anotomy in motion was jaw dropping, the concepts. Working on this film has to be a concepts artist dream, the variety of animals and creatures brought to life. Simply wow, I can't wait to see this film. There will be something great this winter after all.

[JBoskma]

:love: ILM, R&H :bowdown:

[overcontrast]

OH MY GOD THIS BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES!! i loved narnia wen i was a kid.... brings back so many gr8 memories and now ITS GONNA BE MADE INTO A MOVIE!!! OMG I"M JUST TOO EXCITED!!! THIS IS THE BEST THING!! and above all the movie is looking stunningly amazing!!... i bow to the creaters.... i'm still searching for my brain which is totally blown away!! :thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[adonihs]

Holy crap you'll bitch about anything won't you? Neither movie has even come to theater yet and you're already getting saying which one is going to have better DVD feautres. THE MOVIES AREN'T DONE!

I love how I get ridiculed for speaking my voice on this forum. Stop with the immaturity, im not bitching. I think the King Kong video diaries are amazing compared to these, im stating my mind. I haven't insulted these guys and said "GOD IT SUX, SO BAD" "WTF R THEY DOING?". I just think some of the shots look poor, but as I said, I could be proven wrong when the film is released..im not attacking anyone. It's called freedom of speech, look it up.

Leigh: Oi, no bickering please folks. Let's keep this thread constructive.

Thank you.

I concure. Its funny that adonihs says he has such a problem with R&H and confidence in Sony but then goes on to trash the beavers (done by Sony) and laud the centaurs (done by R&H, particullarly in the clips he is refering to). Like they say in the featurette, all the companies are trading shots back and forth with work by multiple companys IN THE SAME SHOT.

By the way, this one caught my eye. I don't recall R&H saying that they did the centaurs scene, and the Sony did the beavers. If so, then i'm not impressed with Sony's work, and good job on R&H on the centaurs; my bad. But otherwise, again I dont recall seeing that they did those specific shots.

[uncooked brain]

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but I saw this clip this morning and still haven't picked my jaw up off the floor.

http://bvim-qref.vitalstream.com/LionWitchWardrobe/Narnia_Chapter5_VFX_1500.mov

Which softwares they used for this film ?

[adonihs]

Which softwares they used for this film ?

More than likely Maya, Soft Image, and Massive is for sure, since they said it. My friend noted that they may have used Voodoo for the hair on Aslan, but I can't call that one.

[cgidude]

top top love it thx leith

[phobos78]

Voodoo is R&H's tracking, animation, and lighting software..

yes, we did the centaur.

[dtschultz]

Beautiful work! I like the beavers. In the book the differentiation between the good and the bad is sometimes presented by the good characters being more of a cariacature -akward, clumsy, and cute (with exception to Aslan), and the bad as being callous, more realistic. It is like a fairy tale, where the evil forces are more representative of the cold, real world of the kid's indifferent parents. I like that from what I see here, this is reflected in the character design.

I am excited to see this film. It looks like the fx houses have raised the bar again!

[snku]

weta, ilm, r+h, imageworks
what more is there to say.

amazing work so far, i can't wait to see this!

[cgidude]

Guys does anyone got any idea what is the name of the track that appear on the trailer of the film

[leigh]

Guys does anyone got any idea what is the name of the track that appear on the trailer of the film

At this point it's likely that it could be actual music from the film... I could be wrong though.

[cgidude]

At this point it's likely that it could be actual music from the film... I could be wrong though.
Yes you right it happen the same with LOTR. First teaser trailer they use a track that was never appear in any of the soundtrack but the track name was Christopher Field - Gothic Power. So I only asking if anyone know that specific track from the teaser trailer of narnia :p :p

ps Avatar is class

[rblitz7]

Voodoo is R&H's tracking, animation, and lighting software..

yes, we did the centaur.

wait I thought R&H was in Marina del Ray and it says Burbank under your name.

[phobos78]

yup, still in marnia del ray, but i live in burbank. ahh, a 45 min drive everyday...(o:

p.s. love your avatar...that was actually one of my shots. (o:

[rblitz7]

Thats awsome dude!! those tours that R&H offer are for the public right, cause my dad said he would take me there next time im in LA. Oh and check this.:scream:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/96/narnia12ml.gif

[asimco]

omg this film looks beautiful

[phobos78]

"those tours that R&H offer are for the public right, cause my dad said he would take me there next time im in LA."

Yeah, there's lots of tours that come in and out of the studio. Just call the studio and they will direct you to the right place to set up a tour.

[Matt Leishman]

Aslan is amazing. wonder why R&H were driving massive on this show.........hmmm.... either they bought it or Weta are too busy on King Kong. (the more likely situation)

R+H is using Massive because they are responsible for the shots showing the VERY huge war at the end with thousands of creatures fighting on either side. Massive wasn't used for any of the hero animation with creatures like aslan, that's all the in-house software Voodoo (like Matt Shumway mentioned a couple pages ago).

Why is software so important anyways?? I don't get it. :shrug:

[xino]

(like Matt Shumway mentioned a couple pages ago).

any relation to Gordon Shumway? ;)

[js33]

R+H is using Massive because they are responsible for the shots showing the VERY huge war at the end with thousands of creatures fighting on either side. Massive wasn't used for any of the hero animation with creatures like aslan, that's all the in-house software Voodoo (like Matt Shumway mentioned a couple pages ago).

Why is software so important anyways?? I don't get it. :shrug:

Because you guys get to use proprietary stuff that is not available to the rest of us. Well Maya, XSI, LW, 3DMax, etc... are all quite capable but there is something seemingly magic or more powerful about the proprietary stuff. Pixar would also be a good example with their in-house character animation software.

Also Narnia looks fantasic. I will definately see it and looks like it will be just as successful as the LOTR series was.

Cheers,
JS

[beaker]

Because you guys get to use proprietary stuff that is not available to the rest of us. Well Maya, XSI, LW, 3DMax, etc... are all quite capable but there is something seemingly magic or more powerful about the proprietary stuff. Pixar would also be a good example with their in-house character animation software.Maya, XSI, LW, etc... can do it, but with not without lots of popsicle sticks and chewing gum to hold it together. These packages have to sacrifice some high end ability in order to satisfy the masses. Some places decided a long time ago to just use their own chewing gum instead. R&H in house software is over 20 years old (it actually originates from the same code Prisims and Wavefront(TAV) came from). There isn't anything magical about it. Actually much of the proprietary software is pretty archaic (like lighting your scenes and rigging by changing text files with vi/vim), but it gets the job done.

[Apoclypse]

You guys light and rig using vim? Dude, thats harsh, but it must be fun as hell.

[Apoclypse]

That Was Awesome.

[Matt Leishman]

You guys light and rig using vim? Dude, thats harsh, but it must be fun as hell.

Deke never said that that was actually how we do it here, he only said that it is archaic and its "like lighting and rigging" by changing text files.

We're not exactly just changing text files to set up rigs. A considerable amount of the repetitive work we do (in rigging) can be done much quicker and more efficiently from the command line in Voodoo. The code language (if it can be referred to as a "code language") is very user friendly and condusive to doing things quick and fast via command line to affect numerous nodes within the scene ... much moreso than trying to do the same amount of work via the command line in something like Maya or Xsi. You can do things via "clicking and dragging" in voodoo, but with the speediness of doing it command line, one would be stupid to do it otherwise. I'm sure I can't really talk too much about it ... so i'll stop :shrug: and oh ya ... it is fun as hell!!

but Deke's point about software is partly why i brought up my question about why software is even "wondered about". There are great 3d artists and technicians everywhere using too many different kinds of software on too many different projects. The talent of the artists and TD's (and programmers!) will shine through, regardless of the software. I think Disney's stuff is mind blowing ... and they're using Maya, but wait, Blur's stuff is amazing too ... and they're using Max ... and so on , and so on. Let the madness stop (even though it never will).

[stooch]

I'm not into 3d/computer generated art, so no..I've never even applied for the company. It's my opinon on which company I like, and that gives you no right to come at me with an insult. Thank you.

you come off as if you have a chip on your shoulder. If you are not into 3d art then i guess your critique can be discounted over a professional one. I feel that the 3d art in this movie is superb. the rigging the dynamics the animation and the rendering.

[JeroenDStout]

Amazing. CG has come such a way.

(alas 'random guys talking about how good this is' has stayed as dull as ever)

[Petrik]

I have a dual reason for going to see it.

Of course one is for the CG. The other is to see if I made it on screen. I was an extra on the set of the train station. I'll be looking very closely at the background during those shots.

[katooo]

it's very nive work

[frilansspion]

aw you people would see any movie with beavers in it.:rolleyes:
but seriously. Im going to see this as soon as I can (considering how late movies come to Japan Ill probably forget saying that before I can though:sad: )
mindboggling! thank you R&H artists and all the others!!

[Jokinen]

Holy cow!! That's just amazing- That lion looks incredibly real :O I'm astonished.


-JJ

[akaiwa]

Yes you right it happen the same with LOTR. First teaser trailer they use a track that was never appear in any of the soundtrack but the track name was Christopher Field - Gothic Power. So I only asking if anyone know that specific track from the teaser trailer of narnia :p :p

ps Avatar is class

It's X-Ray Dog's track "Here Comes the King". :)

[KahlanAmnell]

Truely amazing

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