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nikopol_gfx
10-05-2005, 04:10 PM
I've watched this movie multiple times, mainly because Lightwave, in it's early shape, was involved in FX shots. No mather what I've tried in my experiments, I could't obtain a "recipe" for that nice film emulsion look for my animations.

A recent movie with similar image characteristics is "Sky captain...".

Any suggestion, including AfterFX pp ?

Thanks, and have a nice day !
artmann
10-05-2005, 06:49 PM
BG is done by Zoic and they used combustion on it, correct me if i am mistaken.

and combustionīs got great film grain tools, like there are standard emulsion types you can mimic (like kodak bla bla), or you can even sample from a sample still image and match that grain, just like that.

havenīt seen BG yet, i guess i must asap now that i am a waver too, so they could have done more in post that i am unaware of.

hope this helps initially tho.
3DDave
10-05-2005, 06:58 PM
Key factors for a film look are

Lightwave:

Renders done at 24 FPS
16 x 9 aspect @ 1280 x 720 or higher
motion blur (3D)
DOF(3D)

Compositing:

film grain
slight desaturate
motion blur (2D)
DOF(2D)

Although for BG I would say the camera work has a lot to do with the quality of the shot and the DOF that is used.
cyphyr
10-05-2005, 08:02 PM
Also just a quick note that a great deal of the "look" of the VFX in BG was done using a "hand held camera" look. This gave the shots a kinda documentry feel that was also used in the live action shots. Lots of Camera target nulls and DOF nulls I suspect. But how to get the film grain without using combustion ... er I guess you could add a fine layer of noise in photoshop and batch process your entire scene. There was a technique mentioned here many moons ago where each RGB chanell was seperated out and given a very slightly different sphearize in photoshop, then re combined and cropped (had to be rendered somewhat larger than needed to compansate for the crop). Looked very impresive.
cyphyr
architook
10-05-2005, 08:39 PM
Key factors for a film look are

Renders done at 24 FPS


So Zoic's rendered effects are mangled with a 3:2 pulldown to finally get to video rates? Wouldn't this completely spork image quality?


http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/production_a_z/3_2_pulldown.htm
Crumply
10-05-2005, 09:06 PM
Nope. This is exactly what happens to 24fps film when moved to television, and working in this way only adds to the "film-look" you're trying to create. The process loses no information, and the only "mangling" that happens is that 2 out of 5 frames are interlaced. At speed, the look is correct.

So Zoic's rendered effects are mangled with a 3:2 pulldown to finally get to video rates? Wouldn't this completely spork image quality?


http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/production_a_z/3_2_pulldown.htm
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