Character: mOOn the prophet

[lildragon]

wow wow, does he need to fight someone? cause man he's perfect for the Kar era :p This is superb work thus far, I'm really digging the mouth and eye area... His entire face screams animation

Curious where did the idea come from?

very well done, keep going

salud

[freddy7133d]

wow, he looks great! very cool......

really Original.......

the model looks fantastic!
can't wait to see it with textures......:beer: :applause:

[mebamonster]

Man, I wish I could help you out with some crits, but it looks awesome! I am looking forward to seeing its body! Keep us posted.:)

[toce]

thank you all...

lildragon >> I m not sure he could still fight, he s been an hermit for centuries now.

the idea came from...... uh...... I don't knoow, a lot of things I ate :) from my head, maybe a little of a french comic "Les legendes des contrées oubliées" a monument of heroic fantasy.... I ve got a lot of influences... thiat one is pure improvisation.

I ll keep you posted...

[toce]

I ve been testing some animation on that face before I go deeper in the model.... Just 4 shapes, I know about the timing not being so good, but hey, I suck at animation and it was just for fun...

http://toce.free.fr/moon.avi

[freddy7133d]

wow our character looks really great in motion....
I really think he has a great look.

as for the animation it looks cool... for a test .... but that eye brow popping up and down is a killer...

:thumbsdow

but as I said before, he looks great!:thumbsup: :buttrock: :arteest:
cant' wait to see him with textures........

[Raul-Reznek]

Toce buddy! THIS IS da BOMB!!!!!

Great model!!
I'll pst some more later cuz right now I can't :thumbsup:

[jscheel]

awesome model, I really like the skin-folds :buttrock:

[toce]

Thx!

here s what I m up now...

Ok, I ve got a neat idea of the final image in my head so don t worry....

starting nurbs modeling here..... A LOT of work to do......

http://toce.free.fr/moon2.jpg

and the wire:

http://toce.free.fr/moon_wire2.jpg

[freddy7133d]

(enter sound of jaw dropping):eek: :applause:

it just keeps getting better....:bounce:

I know I sound like a broken record, but I cant wait too see him with textures..
keep going!:wip:
great job!!!!

[MadS]

umm. Damn. You got some skills. I'm loving it so far. It has so much character, and it's not even animated yet. Wish I could give you some worthwhile crits here, but I can't... :thumbsup: Wish I could model that well that fast.

[Acemax]

Cooooooooool!!!!

Very nice model:)))

I saw the animation, and I was unable to speak:)))

Will U textured it? I hope so:))

[toce]

Thx for all the comments.....

Of course It'll be textuured.... Now I just got a BIG scene to model on my free time so you should be patient :)

[bombyx]

Yeah but I'm not sure I waana be patient, thaht's a reaaaaaaaaaally good model U got here, and getting your hands off that project would be like a sin.....so I suggest U don't sleep anymore and post us a load of updates .One last thing, the animation is awesome, but couldn't you apply a little jiggle to those skin folds under the mouth.........
Aniway congratulations again:applause:

[Raul-Reznek]

C'mon Toce!
update!
saw the test anim, GREAT!

[freddy7133d]

we're waiting.....hehe..:)
just kidding..take your time....;) :thumbsup:

[.tenic.]

this is realy good... :buttrock:
dam good modeling.... :)

[coCoKNIght]

very original peace of work :applause:
keep going
can't wait to see all of him, textured and animated :D

[typeA]

looks good..where did you get your insperaton from it reminds me of something but i can put my finger on it

[MadS]

Originally posted by typeA
looks good..where did you get your insperaton from it reminds me of something but i can put my finger on it

You might be thinking of the diplomats in Star Wars Episode I? That' the impression that I got. Also, Matt Clark did a character that looked similar:

[Bokkie]

Originally posted by freddy7133d
wow, he looks great! very cool......

really Original.......

the model looks fantastic!
can't wait to see it with textures......:beer: :applause:

I agree with that!!! :airguitar :buttrock:

[Farf]

héhé super Taff toce !!
Continue ça dechire !

:thumbsup:

[olivier Defaye]

C nickel
le design et le modelling sont super
C tous subdi ou y a des nurbs?

[Maximus Groff]

Its G.I. .. stands for Global Ilumination...

go for http://www.3dluvr.com/pixho/ , download the script and then execute... the mel does a 'sphere' of dir lights that simulates 'all around luminosity'....

Got to see a simple lambert in action.. ;)

[toce]

Wow, thanks for pushing me to go further!!!

actually I have no update to show you for that time but I m fixing the scene design (because it'll be a complete scene more than just a simple character) on paper now... I have a lot of work to do and a few time... I should take a week of vacation to work on it :D

I ll work as quick as I can to post an update soon!

About the modeling: the head and "hat" are polygon not, subD, just cps... and the rest is nurbs: basicly some toruses, tubbes and surface filets, etc.

for the rendering: maximus: you re wrong, IT IS NOT GI OR FAKED GI.... it's juste 4 standard directional lights :D one main a-little-yellow light casting shadows, one back blue and 2 fill lights...

it s that simple....

about inspiration , I started from scratch so I had no precise idea of what I would do. After the modeling was advanced a bit It reminded me about that character in star wars episode 1, so I m trying now to get away from it.... I m trying to make an original scene, so The character won't look like him in the end..

[Maximus Groff]

humm... i mean for the MadS picture ... heheh..

4 lights ? excelent..

To facial anim, will u blend shapes or what ? Im asking 'cause its on my schedule to start on things like that...

May the force be with u! ;)

[fellah]

really nice character, I don't like his body though.. but his face is really good. especially on the first pics, good job!

[toce]

thank you guys for being so patient....

I started over with the body, here s what I get this evening:

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon3.jpg

[raden]

Heya toce

Excellent concept:buttrock: Man I dig your character designing:thumbsup: Love those head thingies. Modelling looks good so far, now i'm looking forward for you to finish him, texture him, rig him, animate him:bounce:

UPDATES!!!

:beer:

[freddy7133d]

yah!!! moon is back!
the torso looks great toce...:thumbsup:
I looking forward to seeing how you well dress the rest of him..
keep posting...
:bounce: :applause:

[toce]

what I m doing for now is giving him a believable shape of body, then I will make him less "human" with ading some stuff.... and disproportions, all I need now is a good basiic shape...

thanks for the cheers....

[g3n]

wow wow :eek: :bounce:

exellent concept and model! :thumbsup:

[Raul-Reznek]

Good progress, tho i immagined him a fat blobby guy, like the Harkonnen ,ig u know what I'm meanong :D

[Vladvrz]

Good face ,nice hood,like the detailed look to it. The body is still a wait and see for me. Good potential.:beer:

[thjazi]

perso je trouve l'extérieur des pecs bizarre par rapport à ça pose, je remonterais un peu les extérieurs, ça ne fait pas assès tendu dans le sens des muscles......

sinon le modèle est sympa, la tête est top :beer:

Joyeux Noël !!

[toce]

thanks for all the comments... little update


http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon4.jpg

[Manicalavera15]

hey ! looking great, love the body !
ptite astuce comme ca :
franchement pas mal le dos, mais tu pourrais exagerer en creant des plis entre chaque vertebre afin de lui donner un effet lombric probablement tres interessant...(just an idea in the sky)

good luck, bon courage pour la suite Toce:love:

[gigatron]

Reminded me of those mechanical creatures in 5th element

[pit]

Xlent modeling! I still prefer the first version though - the head and neck proportions call for a massive character. Your new body - although very nice executed - doesn´t fit the sturdy look of the head and neck IMO. But maybe you have a "surprise" in mind and make the legs sturdy too?! Look forward to the progress!

[NelsonInomvan]

Man those french guys are really crazy. I must say that you model really rocks (well i'm not the first to say that )

I have no crits for you just suggestions. Why don't you make him a alien monk a zealot whit some tattos and plaits. Man forget that :) just keep up the good work and please post some wire pics

Hehe btw he looks little like a fishman try to fix that cause he is and i don't know what :annoyed:

[toce]

someone ask for the wire, here it is...

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon_wire3.jpg

Maybe I ll try a mix between version 1 and version 2... I also have to fix the finger, the thuymb overall...

and I ve got a surprise for the stomac....

then we ll see for the legs...

thanks for the comments, keep em coming! :)

[mv]

nice work! he's got personality. J'adore son dos et toutes les petites rides.. les bras demandent un peu plus de travail peut-être?(au niveau d la definition des muscles)

rock on dude! keep updates coming!

[wgreenlee1]

Very clean mesh!
No crits here!!!!

[toce]

Here s an update...

I m not really sure about the legs, even if it s just a start and I did not work much on it...

I need suggestions people!! :)

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon5.jpg

[CJ]

Wow this has been really cool to watch develope over time! Looking fantastic! :applause: Unsure what to comment on the feet/legs though...
With the new changes you've added to the body, to me he seems as though he's somewhat of a water/amphibian type of creature... depending on that it could help you with how to do the legs, ya know!
Can't wait to see more! :bounce: :thumbsup:

[vizion]

awesome character.

[coCoKNIght]

I totally agree with The Residual, go for a fishy look on legs and feet ;)
Great work so far :thumbsup: It's really fun seeing the development of this awesome character!

[Raul-Reznek]

The hair on the back is the BEST improovement u brought to the char till now.

I suggest u widen the hips and legs. The hips are ALWAYS as wide as the pects are.

Keep em comin

[freddy7133d]

:thumbsup: cool update...
umm.maybe you make the feet look like the hands?:shrug:
cool tail:buttrock: that was unexpected:)

[Merlin]

that model is great! Love the design. I'm not so sure on the legs though, they don't seem to fit the overall design. He seems to be sort of an amphibious/reptile guy right? so why not give him legs like a frog or a lizard's? Similar to the legs that the gargoyles had in that cartoon a while back, "Gargoyles." Whatever, just keep up the updates! Looks great,

Neal

[WarAngel]

I really like this guy, been cool to see the development shots. You seriously seem good enough to get a job doing modelling! Good work, can't wait to see him finished!

[Crash]

blah! the first body concept was way cooler :p

[toce]

huuuuu

thaks for all the comments.. I realize that those kind of legs is no good, so I will start over....

and some of you seem to like the first body the most so maybe I should try to find something inbetween....

keep the suggestions coming, I ll keep that thread updated ;)

[toce]

I tried something else (no details, juste a basic shape) is it better?

http://toce.free.fr/moon_test.jpg

[Remi]

Holy.....it looks excellent...can't wait to see the finished model...great work toce.:thumbsup: I liked the cloak he was wearing in the previous posts too...you've got a lot of freedom to do whatever with this character...keep going..:thumbsup:

[hiko_]

Waouaw ! Amazing design & modeling !
Tu as bien progressé toce ! Bravo !

[Farf]

Le design des jambes est bien mieux ! details les un peu plus c du tout bon ;)
Continue toce !
:buttrock:

[toce]

Thx remi

hiko_ et Farf: merci bien les gars ;)

Here s a little update..

It s coming along... modeling still not finished, I still got to add details on the legs and go on with the clothes...

The two halves are not merged and the nurbs object's tesselation not set up...

a biger version of that pic: http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon6_h.jpg

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon6.jpg

[lildragon]

damn impressive man, the legs are tons better now, tickle me pink and called me impressed :thumbsup:

How much more work do you have for him?

salud

[toce]

Thx lil dragon!

well I ve got to add lots of details on the legs and the feet I guess... and maybe some more clothes... and fix some stuffs...

then moing should be done :beer:

micro-update: I worked more on the clothes and made the fingers thiner...

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon7.jpg

[CJ]

Wow... that is reallly comming along nicely man!:beer: I really like the additions to his back!

[DDrake]

Great model!

but, for some reason, i was hoping some kind of dwar legs, i mean, sort legs :D much more like the Yoda character :D Of course, sort arms too :D

Great job, i can´t wait to see it skinned :D

[Merlin]

Wow, wonderful improvements on the leg. I love this character,
keep up the good work,

Neal

Ps one crit, however, I love the new leg design, but the way their set up is sort of traditionally anatomically wrong. I realize it's an alien and not really humanoid. That being said, that little horn coming out of his calf at present, should actually be his heel. So if you take out the heel you gave him, it will looked more balance.

had this same problem with a demon character of mine and it took me forever to realize that that was what was bothering me.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=35132&highlight=neal


Go with it or just say screw it, he's got different anatomy. Still looks great.

[urgaffel]

That's looking really nice toce :) I'd go with the suggestion for the feet I think... At least post a version with the tweaks so we can see what it's like.

Keep 'em coming!

[toce]

I think I m done with modeling on this guy now (unless you have some important stuff to make me change)

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon8.jpg

some close up on the arms on which I worked more:

http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon9.jpg

[coCoKNIght]

nothing to change, it's awesome, it's perfect, now texture it! :D

[hiko_]

waouwww awesome ! i love the little details !

[CJ]

Wow, great job man! I really dig the straps around the thighs and also the removal of the weird branch things out of his back. It's been cool seeing this guy progress from start to finish! :applause: :beer:

[toce]

Thx mates!

Hi-def renders for those who are interested in...

FRONT (http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon_front.jpg)

BACK (http://toce.free.fr/images/3d/moon_back.jpg) (now fixed)

[r0bal]

It looks soo great! Very nice modeling and character design :applause:
BTW what software do you use?
Can't wait to see it textured...

[Raul-Reznek]

GREAT man!
The last lighting is BEST till now, i see you're not too enthiusiasmed by lighting... :D

Very good job on this one mate :D

[freddy7133d]

:eek: very nice:applause:

[urgaffel]

Great job! Now do something about the legs, they look naked ;)

[WhiteRabbitObj]

Perhaps this was answered but I only read the first page of replies (Sorry!), I know you said you modeled at least the head, and likely much of the body, in Polys, what did you use to smooth? just the Smooth tool or did you use Smooth Proxy/CPS?

Heh, forgot to add: Looks awesome! It's always humbling to be proud of something you're working on and then see something many times better, heh.

[Farf]

really impressive Toce !
La franchement ça impose ! j'ai hate de le voir compltement fini .
:p

[toce]

Thank you all

I m using maya4.0 with cps and nurbs for some stuff (like the straps)

Raul >> what do you mean "not enthousiasth with lighting? That was modeling.. I didn t work on lighting...

Now I m starting maps... :annoyed:

[toce]

Here is where I am with the textures (not final)

http://toce.free.fr/test_maps2.jpg

http://toce.free.fr/test_maps3.jpg

And I also made a new version of my website for those who are interested (also with new 2d material)

[coCoKNIght]

:eek:

[baby]

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[r0bal]

The texture is awesome :eek:
I think that it's too grainy in some places but probably it's only me.
Nevertheless I really admire your work :applause:
I'd like to see this guy in starwars or something like that :)
Are you going to rig him?

[swords]

cool sick guy
:drool:

[wesware]

really looking good.
well designed.

I am having trouble understanding the ankles and how they would function. They seem a little underdefined compared to the rest of the character

[Thelios]

great texture job, love it:beer: :thumbsup:

[Threedeemer]

Brilliantly designed character. His anatomy is really well thought out, especially the face structure. Great images on your website also. :buttrock:

[Cromimage]

WoW !

Awesome ! :thumbsup:

[hiko_]

Great work toce ... but i think you may still working on the texture (surtout les speculaires et bump).

[toce]

Thanks all!

I should have said... The map and specular are just a simple procedural for now, I just worked on the color... :)

[wunder]

im flaberghasted, and im not easily ghated, not to mention flaberly.

[toce]

A quick update for tonight (slightly changes on the maps) and added the banner:

http://toce.free.fr/test_maps4.jpg

Hi-def version: http://toce.free.fr/hd3.jpg

I ll soon be finished with the color maps, make the bump and specular and then... Let's go for the landscape!

[toce]

I started to rig him... So here s a pose test (this is not the final one, just to test the skin).... Before I start to rig the props......

I m not sure about the teeth... If someone has a suggestion.. you re welcome :)

http://toce.free.fr/pose_test.jpg

http://toce.free.fr/pose_test2.jpg

[coCoKNIght]

:eek:

:bowdown:

you don't stop to amaze me with your updates!

[CJ]

Wow! That looks damn good! I can picture a little army of them going to battle! With the teeth, what is wrong with the ones that are there right now? In the shots there was only really 1 that we could really even see them. Do you have other options already done? Why not post a couple of close-ups of the mouth if you are unsure about what ya have so far. Keep it up though!!!

:) :applause: :thumbsup: :beer:

[leigh]

Wow that is really awesome :applause:

I'd love to see him rendered in a proper environment though - that black void he is currently in is doing him no justice! Put him in a cool forest of something - I think he will look abolutely amazing in a beautiful setting!

[toce]

Thanks guy....

Leigh >> the environment will come, when I m done withe the set up..... I m still working on the props... One more test pic... still a lot to do..

http://toce.free.fr/moon_fun.jpg

[BiTMAP]

may I see wireframes of how you did your shoulders, and how the legs with the spike out the back are done? Its becuase i'm currently doing a charater with the same type of legs (sorta) and I'm also wondering how to do my shoulders.

[toce]

here s some wireframe for you..



http://toce.free.fr/wire.jpg

[buzzlightyr]

models outta this world :bounce:

[augustus]

Awsome model and texturing.:thumbsup: A desert-man?

[rsalonen]

Hey this one is so great!
I really love it :drool:

Got a little question, do you still use the cps proxy when rigging and posing him? because on the 4rth last picture I see you have made the divisions to 1, so that means you can still change the smooth proxy?
Does it work well rigging and posing with the history and cps proxy on?
I thought it would give problems...

[blindsleeper]

wonderful model... will be awaiting its completion

[onelung]

looking sweet, lighting, and texturing, your a man with many skills, great work.

[Theta-Dot]

:annoyed: that's so good it makes me sick. I couldn't do anything like that in a year. It's amazing...

=ThetaDot=

[toce]

thx all

Veqtue >> I m disconnecting the cps proxy when modeling is done..

Then I just unwrap my UVs on an unsmooth version, I add a smooth, make my snapshots and paint over it...

for the skining, I just set the divison to 0 in the smooth, paint my weights and reset division to 1 to visualize.... same for posing...

good technique, no problems ;)

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