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vincent1
09-28-2005, 03:19 AM
Vincent Wan Wai Hoong is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9132)

Latest Update: Final Image: drinking, warring and dying - three of a kind
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vincent1
09-28-2005, 03:36 AM
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Greetings,

Met an old schoolmate at the pub and we reminiscienced about old times. Enid Blyton came up as a subject. Who is Enid Blyton? She was an English children's book writer famous for her tales of Brer Rabbit, Elves and fairies.

So I decided to do a quick sketch.

My 3d challenge deals very much with Macro views and concepts, so I thought switching to a micro viewpoint would be nice for the 2d challenge.

The toadstools would emit their own atmospheric changing light while the sun rays behind the dragonfly would conflict with the toadstools light, a juxtaposition of struggle and strife, on a very micro scale.

Thanks for comments.

-Vincent

my-3d_challenge:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?postid=2607447#post2607447

MichaelZHsee
09-28-2005, 05:12 AM
whoa~cool another 5d participant~interesting 1st sketch here,i picture it to be a very colorful scene~goodluck my malaysian mate!:scream:

Atris
09-28-2005, 09:40 AM
I like your idea very much!! Good luck!

ChrisThatGuy
09-28-2005, 09:11 PM
whoa~cool another 5d participant...

Hahahahaha... :scream:

Nice concept, and I like the composition too. It might be cool to see that some of the elves have taken preperations against the wasps, like little hiding places.

Good luck.

vincent1
09-29-2005, 04:36 AM
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Colour sketch to key tonal areas. Looks like a LOT of detailing needs to be done if this is to work.

Squibbit
09-29-2005, 04:57 AM
and I thought Enid Blyton was famous for the Famous Five series, cause that's
what I know her from, having read those books as a kid :)


interesting to see how this developes :thumbsup:



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vincent1
09-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Famous Five too, yes. Just that I started from her fantastic fairies and elves stories. I also loved the woodcut illustrations too. staring at them for hours.


One particular image had this fairy sitting on a drooping daffodil-like flower, addressing small animals of the forest, one of many, many images burned into my mind.:)

I can see you are also an elve, goblin kind of guy. All the best for your entry.:thumbsup:

Squibbit
09-29-2005, 10:38 AM
Famous Five too, yes. Just that I started from her fantastic fairies and elves stories. I also loved the woodcut illustrations too. staring at them for hours.


One particular image had this fairy sitting on a drooping daffodil-like flower, addressing small animals of the forest, one of many, many images burned into my mind.:)

I can see you are also an elve, goblin kind of guy. All the best for your entry.:thumbsup:

thanks, gotta check out those woodcut illustrations :thumbsup:



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vincent1
09-29-2005, 11:55 AM
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Here the toadstools are given final treatment brush work, although still early stage.

The reason why the elves are protecting the toadstools and why the Dragon-volks are coming; the toadstools are beginning to fruit, the energy glow and light-threads are begining to form,

Dragon-volks harvest the light-threads as a nutritious staple for their Queen, while the Light is a storeable Energy Form for the Elves. The Light-thread for the Elves are used to form and manufacture all kinds of materials for their small but highly specialised economy.

Because of Human Expansion and Destruction, the Elves now have to battle the Dragon_Volks for the precious commodity as the Living-Trees are getting very scarce.

It is a very Dark Age for the Forest-Folk...

vincent1
09-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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Added painting of fairy. In final pose, she will probably hurl some kind of energy sphere.

vincent1
09-30-2005, 04:26 AM
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Starting formation of bottom fairies.

Should i go for serious tight-lipped or luscious semi-smile?

A semi-mischevious smile would have a lightening effect on the overall sombre mood of the painting.

Comments?

vincent1
09-30-2005, 04:29 AM
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As i usually don't do a final lineart before starting to paint, i'm submitting my concept drawing as line art.

The entry system keeps asking me for lineart submission.

Oh well...

vincent1
09-30-2005, 05:38 AM
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More cevelopment on the fairies.

Serious lip style on right fairy.

Hmmm... i think i will go for mischeivous smile on left fairy.

Korline
09-30-2005, 06:01 AM
fairies, and electric mushrooms,
pretty radical colors, I don't get the relationship between the bug and the fairy on the top
I think if she maybe had ambarased lok , kind like "how the hell you've walk in without knocking", would make this very cool, cause the color and idea is unique :thumbsup:
cheers :twisted:

vincent1
09-30-2005, 06:11 AM
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Scaled the left fairy up a fair bit.

A very small change, yet i feel it impacted the picture very much, by adding more visual depth to the image.

At the least, now it is more apparrent that the right fairy is holding the left fairy's hand and urging her on which was my intention to imply.

Agreed?

vincent1
10-01-2005, 04:12 AM
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More or less elves facial expressions done. Perhaps later ornamentation will be added. They will probably remain bald, as I kind of like the raw look of hairless females.

Work started on the Dragon-Volk.

vincent1
10-01-2005, 05:11 PM
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added the third main element of the image, the crouching elf.

here again, I do not bother to clean up my concept sketch, preferring to get the feeling right and in place and then just go for it and start painting. I find this works for me better than meticulously doing a final line art.

The time i save working and labouring over the final line art is used by my 'tonal thinking mode' as I start to block over the rough sketch.

I only do final lineart if i'm doing a more technical illustration style.

vincent1
10-06-2005, 03:39 AM
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update

Euphrosyne
10-06-2005, 05:52 AM
Wow! Fun piece can't wait to see it finished. Great concept. I love fairies. Best of luck in the challenge and have fun!

vincent1
10-08-2005, 06:53 AM
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Light_threads taking form.

gardogg
10-09-2005, 01:19 AM
Good job on the drawing skills. I think the colors and tones need work though. It seems to lack a good proportion between dark and light values. I know you're not done. Keep it up!

vincent1
10-11-2005, 06:04 AM
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Started painting foreground roots

vincent1
10-13-2005, 11:36 AM
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Adding grassy plants and now the scene looks more like a micro scale. More varied vegetation will be added.

vincent1
10-19-2005, 11:56 AM
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finishing ground cover, added weapon for centre elf.

vincent1
10-23-2005, 11:42 AM
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closing down the bkground. "Miss Daisy", a word play contradiction to highlight the intensity of war.

Speaky
10-23-2005, 04:36 PM
Hi Vincent, I see you're putting a lot of energy and effort into this, so well done for tackling the challenge head on! :thumbsup:

If you don't mind, I'll try and point out a few things which I think aren't working so you can consider solving them sooner rather than later.

Everything is very bright and strongly saturated at the moment. If you consider what the brightest thing in the picture is, it's going to be the sky itself, followed by areas lit directly by the sun, followed by the glowing undersides of the mushrooms and the lens flares (I think that's what the white haloed elements are).

Since everything in the pic is already very bright, I think you're struggling to get the glow from the mushrooms and bits of grass to look lit up (you're using a yellow colour). The solution I think is to darken everything other than the sky and the glowing parts of the mushrooms. Both sky and organic glow tends to produce very soft shadows, whereas sunlight produces very sharp ones.

There isn't much of a difference in value / brightness between the leaves next to the sky and the blue sky itself. That should help you see how much darker the vegetation might need to be.

Objects lying in shade have much less saturated colour than the same objects with a strong light source falling on them. This is a bit of a generalisation, but might be good to bear in mind. Take the blades of grass with yellow on them - you've used yellow to brighten them up because you can't make the green any brighter itself. The sun isn't that yellow, the highlights ought to be bright(ish) green, and the 'in shadow' grass needs to be darker and less saturated so that the lit bits stand out.

One last thing I'll point out is the anatomy of the figures in the foreground. I find figure drawing very difficult myself, and because the human body is something we're all very familiar with, if the anatomy isn't spot on, it tends to stand out. The crouching figure - the head sits on the neck oddly, the shoulders and back don't look right, and the buttocks / hips / legs look a bit awkward. By making them nude, you're really taking on one of the trickiest things in art to do well. How about (and this isn't for the sake of modesty by the way!) you dress them in floaty fabric, with leaves and insect wings / beetle shells for decoration. This way you can lessen the focus on anatomy, which currently is a bit weak.

Don't forget this is merely advice. I am not trying to be 'right' here, I just want to give you some feedback, as I have found feedback to have helped me greatly in the past, and I'm sure it'll help me in the future. You've got a very original idea here, it stands out, and I wish you all the best. :)

vincent1
10-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Hey Speaky, thanks for the comments. Most of it spot on. It is still developing, i'm spending time on it when I can. Most of the colour will be toned down later and more elements will be added.

The elf will remain bald at the top and front but have long pig-tailed braided hair that grows from the back of the skull and tied in sections with Light-Threads and winds itself round the pelvis, and there will be a short organic skirt-like coverage for the lower half of the body.

If time allows, more subtle/hidden allegorical elements will be added into the picture; for example, the four-leaf clover she is touching amongst all the three-leaf clover. I think I will start to panic when November draws to a close. :-)

Thank you for the time you took to write such a constructive reply; appreciate it. :thumbsup:

vincent1
10-29-2005, 04:01 AM
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A lady friend came dressed in this wonderful looking outfit, it was sort of semi-opaque, finely glittering material, with gathered sewings at the cuffs.

With the vision still in my mind, i decided the 3rd elf will be dressed with this material.

Slav
10-29-2005, 11:02 PM
hi there just stopping in to say hi. and good luck :)

vincent1
11-01-2005, 10:13 AM
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Tightening the bkgrd and the swarm brings to perspective the impending confrontation.

vincent1
11-03-2005, 10:17 AM
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Going to final coloring stage.Contrast increased and toned.

left elf's face intentionally so flushed, want her to look imbibed with strong drink or hallucinagenic potion; a protest against the need for war.

Need comments and fresh eyes. Kindly critique.

vincent1
11-26-2005, 10:03 AM
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close to finishing.

Kindly comment, suggestions.

vincent1
11-28-2005, 02:34 AM
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redressed anatomical errors. Almost there.

A commentary on the powerful economical force of war. it drives entire economies, some producing a denial way of life, some producing fundamentalism in social issues, in others wanton waste of all resources.

A spectacularly stupid human invention.

Comments, suggestions welcomed.

vincent1
11-30-2005, 03:51 AM
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The reason why the elves are protecting the toadstools and why the Dragon-volks are coming; the toadstools are beginning to fruit, the energy glow and light-threads are begining to form,

Dragon-volks harvest the light-threads as a nutritious staple for their Queen, while the Light is a storeable Energy Form for the Elves. The Light-thread for the Elves are used to form and manufacture all kinds of materials for their small but highly specialised economy.

Because of Human Expansion and Destruction, the Elves now have to battle the Dragon_Volks for the precious commodity as the Living-Trees are getting very scarce.

It is a very Dark Age for the Forest-Folk...


A commentary on the powerful economical force of war. it drives entire economies, some producing a denial way of life, some producing fundamentalism in social issues, in others wanton waste of all resources.

vincent1
11-30-2005, 03:56 AM
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The reason why the elves are protecting the toadstools and why the Dragon-volks are coming; the toadstools are beginning to fruit, the energy glow and light-threads are begining to form,

Dragon-volks harvest the light-threads as a nutritious staple for their Queen, while the Light is a storeable Energy Form for the Elves. The Light-thread for the Elves are used to form and manufacture all kinds of materials for their small but highly specialised economy.

Because of Human Expansion and Destruction, the Elves now have to battle the Dragon_Volks for the precious commodity as the Living-Trees are getting very scarce.

It is a very Dark Age for the Forest-Folk...


A commentary on the powerful economical force of war. it drives entire economies, some producing a denial way of life, some producing fundamentalism in social issues, in others wanton waste of all resources.

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