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I think you should go ahead and start shading. But I think the thing which both you and Slux need to work on is loosening up a bit, and getting something of the gesture in your drawings. You are both technically really good, but you should try to give your drawings more of a sense of life by using more fluid and loose lines ~ not to say inaccurate lines, but lines which 'breathe'.
Hmmmm I see I guess I will have to work on it :D ... but yeah I'am aware of that.
10-08-2005, 05:02 PM
ZhuZhu and his ladies :)
Here is an example of what I had in mind to try to sell. Tried to compse it better than my last effort with layers. Trying to capture that mysterious Carvagio feeling with light
and mood. Getting closer I think. Definitely having a lot of fun trying anyway.
I am still working on it. probably put purple satin under neath female figure on right.
Wouldn't be possible without you honest opinion and expert advice.
When you get a moment let me know what you think
ANd that goes for everyone else who reads this.
I highly value all of your opinions and suggestions.
10-08-2005, 05:13 PM
That bird is cool! Along with the eyes.
10-08-2005, 05:14 PM
Hey there, I think right now the spatial / size relationships are a bit odd...and to be honest, I don't understand the significance of the dragon / creature ~ is there a narrative here, or are you just compositing figures? I think that is the main thing to consider.
Spatially, the rightmost (female) figure reads as though she should be in back of zhuzhu, but she is too large to be, and you've placed her in front of zhuzhu, so it's confusing. The leftmost female figure is too small to be in the foreground.
All of the lighting schemes are different ~ causing this to appear to be a hodgepodge. You don't want that, you want to unite them through color, scale relationships, and lighting scheme to appear that they are all in the same environment. The temptations is to invent something allegorical to get around having to do some major construction work, but people will see through this. :)
The main question you have to ask is, what is the story / narrative here? Why are these figures in the same environment, and why are they posing as such?
You may have to invent a scheme and change the texture of the figures significantly. For example, the upcoming Narnia series reminds me of a scene in one of the books where there is a gallery of statues, frozen in place by the spell of the White Witch. You may want to invent some similar scheme, and turn these figure into statues...this would require also constructing an environment which is believable, no small task.
I think it's cool to see you experimenting like this. I would just bear in mind that it will take a fair piece of work to get these to really work together believably.
10-08-2005, 07:41 PM
I haven't been here for a while, but I've looked through the topic and you all've done a great job :))) :thumbsup:
I just took my old sketch, and doodled a bit with it in painter and PS
10-08-2005, 07:52 PM
Great to see you back! Just so you know, we're on OFDW 005, but you are more than welcome to post in any OFDW for as long as you wish! :) I think this is looking really good ~ you have a nice painterly style going which is cool to see.
One thing I think you should reconsider (easy to do in Photoshop) is the relationship of the axes of the head and shoulders. There is something currently a bit funny there that would be fairly easy to correct.
Independently, I really like how you have painted the face ~ have you ever seen the work of Skip Liepke? (http://www.dianenelson.com/dnfagallery/1101-liepkeshow/liepke/liepkeshow.htm) This link was posted by Segvoia in the Favorite Artists thread, and I think you should check out his work:
Will you be working further on this? :)
10-10-2005, 10:23 PM
Well i took it's time but know i finished my picture.
Here it is. Faceless but rendered. Right here (http://www.geocities.com/kassjansmyczek/zhuzhu2.jpg)
P.S.:I hate my old scanner...
10-10-2005, 10:34 PM
Not too bad! A shading tutorial I think you might like is Slux's Shading Tutorial, which is on his Anatomy Thread here:
Anatomy Thread of Slux (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=281480&page=3&pp=15)
I think you might quite like the way he breaks down his shading technique. Take a look when you get the chance. :)
10-25-2005, 03:46 PM
i took slux's shadingtutorial seriously and i like the result.
10-26-2005, 03:18 AM
Wow, nice work!!! I am thrilled that you used Slux's tutorial to your best advantage...it makes me quite happy to see when people show real progress in their work as a result of something they've found on the Anatomy forum. :)
I think if you worked a bit more on the feet and the face, you would be in great shape! I quite like how you have carefully blocked in the figure, and been very careful about your proportions. Nice work so far! Do you plan to finish this piece? :)
11-02-2005, 01:02 AM
Finaly finished this drawing. Head proportions could be better (too late :)). I also donīt want to tweak this piece forever, so here it is:
11-02-2005, 03:28 AM
Great to see you post this piece! :) I agree that there are proportional problems, but, as I mentioned in your Anatomy Thread, I think it's fine to move on. ;) You have some nice work with the shading here, although I've also seen you do even better shading in other pieces. I think given the short amount of time, you have done a really nice job with this piece. :)
11-09-2005, 08:52 AM
Fairly new to the forum, Iīm not quite sure if itīs OK to post WIPīs here, but I take my chances :)
Painter IX, Oils. 30 mins so far. Started with the detailing of the right arm so far. The rest is just blocked in.
11-09-2005, 10:48 AM
Yep, WIP is our thing here, :) so it's absolutely ok to post WIP. Nice to see your post! Just so you know, we are on the last week of OFDW 006 ~ this is OFDW 004. You are more than welcome to post here (all OFDWs remain open indefinitely) but most folks post to the most current OFDW.
Here is the most current one:
NOW OPEN!!! OPEN FIGURE DRAWING WORKSHOP 006 with Ron Eyre and Rebecca Kimmel!! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=286293)
We should start a new one next week. :)
11-09-2005, 11:05 AM
I know this is an "oldie", but I liked the definitions of themuscles on this one, so I started with it:)
Iīll hopefully have time for the following ones as well...
11-09-2005, 11:10 AM
No worries then! Rock on! :) Checkin' back later... ;)
11-09-2005, 12:37 PM
OK, hereīs after 2 hrs work...
11-10-2005, 12:32 AM
That right arm is coming along beautifully! :applause: I would recommend blocking in the rest of the figure ~ but everyone works differently. Looking forward to seeing your next update! :)
11-10-2005, 06:25 AM
My next update:)
11-10-2005, 09:17 AM
Wow, some fanatastic work and progress!!! :thumbsup: Ok, so now you have to tell us something about your background and training! :)
11-10-2005, 10:30 AM
Hereīs the finished piece.
Rebeccak, I work as a graphic designer, mainly books and covers. The painting is only for fun:) I have absolutely no education in painting, and have trouble drawing a straight line with a pencil. Why I can paint and draw on the computer I have no idea:) I havenīt done it for long, my first piece (the babyface shown in another thread here on the forum), is from last year.
I have some trouble getting away from the realistic part, and that is my next challenge - to try to paint looser.
Thanks for your interest and for the comments on the painting.
11-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Wow, this is a beautiful piece! You're amazingly fast. :thumbsup: The only thing that stands out to me as being off is the nose / lips size and shape relationship. Other than that, this is really fantastic!
It's amazing that you don't have drawing/painting training. Really? Never even one drawing class? :eek: That's slightly depressing! :scream: :cry: ;)
Thanks for posting a bit about yourself. Just saw your post for OFDW 006...trundles over... :)
11-15-2005, 01:58 PM
sorry couldn t keep up with al the threads.
here s my try
11-16-2005, 04:27 AM
Hey, good to see you back! :) Just so you know, the most current OFDW is:
(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=293798) Open Figure Drawing Workship with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 007 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=293798)
I hope you will join us there! It just started this Monday, and will run for 2 weeks. :)
I think you've got the twist established quite nicely. :) One Workshop I think you might quite enjoy and benefit from is:
BEGINNERS' Drawing Workshop - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain - With Margie (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026)
Definitely check it out if you get the chance! :)
11-16-2005, 10:06 AM
well actually i have been following all the workshops, but really heavy schedule and technological handicaps prevent me from participating.
but wil make a better attempt and make less excuses.
and to some of you people on this thread ... your soo good that you should be made gods.
11-17-2005, 01:06 AM
Definitely glad to see you back. :) Indeed, a lot of the work here is really inspiring! :)
11-17-2005, 01:06 AM
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