feng zhu gnomon dvd???

[CIM]

Anyone should be able to follow his DVD, no matter if they're using Photoshop, Painter, or pen and paper.

[Squibbit]

i'm no expert but i think rotating the canvas is one of the bigger differencies between
the two programs. in painter u can do it without degrading the image quality, in photoshop
u can just flip it horizontally or vertically, if u don't want the quality to suffer.

never used painter, this is only what i've heard


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[depleteD]

fengs shot composition dvd is so amazing. he really communicates his techniques well. The tool is not important, its the ideas and technique.

[thx1138]

I have that DVD and tried Painter just to see if the canvas rotate would bring me closer to the techniques (I normally use Photoshop). But I found that the tool was too restraining and kept me from getting the real point on what Feng is trying to bring across.
I switched to plain paper(that can be rotated also :) ) and markers, and bring it into Pshop when I want.

[Zeicon]

I use Photoshop. I need no rotating canvas.

Thanks to my rotating Cintiq 21 :thumbsup:

[dioxide]

I use Photoshop. I need no rotating canvas.

Thanks to my rotating Cintiq 21 :thumbsup:

Bourgeois S.O.B.

[olioli]

thanks for the feedback :bounce:

i'll try out :thumbsup:

[olioli]

one other question,

which dvd would best compliment fengs vol. 3:

ryan church vol. 5 rendering architectural interiors or

james clyne vol. 2 rendering a cinematic environment


again, I'm using PS and ryan uses painter and james is using PS. from the replys above, it seems like this doesn't matter, so i'm thinking that this shouldn't make a difference?

what do you all think?

[MaDSheeP]

Well, Rumor has it... Photoshop CS3 will have a rotating canvas, and it will expand more on non destructive transforms....

Just a rumor! and CS3 won't be out any time soon... but if those are true... mmmm =)

I enjoy painter, but i love the speed of Photoshop.

[gamedeveloper]

If you want a rotating canvas in Photoshop and don't want to purchase a Cintiq, try picking up a Tablet PC off Ebay. I use one with Alias Sketchbook Pro as well as PhotoShop and Artrage. I love it.

I'm thinking about taking a painting class and trying to use only Art Rage instead of real-world materials. The only problem I have with Art Rage is that it doesn't allow you to "dry" the canvas.

I'd try Painter, however, unlike Sketchbook Pro and Art Rage, Painter is not optimized for Tablet PC functionality and thus requires that you use a keyboard.

[olioli]

i'll look into the clintiq :scream:

[Kdeezy]

Well, Rumor has it... Photoshop CS3 will have a rotating canvas, and it will expand more on non destructive transforms....

Just a rumor! and CS3 won't be out any time soon... but if those are true... mmmm =)

I enjoy painter, but i love the speed of Photoshop.


speed of PS? maybe its just me but photoshop cs2 runs like ass on my computer, thats the main reason i went with painter..... granted its not the greatest system spec wise but ud think that it should keep photoshop running smoothly when im just starting out a drawing.


just in case i have a gig of ram and the processor is a 2500 xp nothing special but like i said should run good.



As for the rotate canvas ........ i just recently found out about that and havent used it much.

[nendo_3d]

fengs shot composition dvd is so amazing. he really communicates his techniques well. The tool is not important, its the ideas and technique.

apsolutly right. 9 times out of the 10 its technique and not the tools. although they help in improving it or adding depth.

[olioli]

so, would you all recommend checking out ryan church's or james clyne's rendering dvd.

they both look great, but i can only afford one at the moment.

[gardogg]

If you want to rotate you canvas with ps, just cock your head to the side while you paint! Or put a book under one side of your monitor to rotate it that way. I'm not even joking... rotating the canvas is only meant to view the piece of work you are doing from a different perspective right? Sorry if I sound like a "smart alec."

[gdimmrt]

If you want to rotate you canvas with ps, just cock your head to the side while you paint! Or put a book under one side of your monitor to rotate it that way. I'm not even joking... rotating the canvas is only meant to view the piece of work you are doing from a different perspective right? Sorry if I sound like a "smart alec."

No, somethings are easier to draw if you rotate the canvas, paper, etc...
Things like drawing a straight line. It's easier if the angle of the line aligns to how your arm moves.

[gdimmrt]

so, would you all recommend checking out ryan church's or james clyne's rendering dvd.

they both look great, but i can only afford one at the moment.

I haven't seen the james Clyne DVD but the Ryan Church DVD's are excellent. Hi-Tech, Low tech architecture. I learned alot from them.

[olioli]

thanks,

i went ahead and ordered james clyne's dvd. no need to rotate anything. thanks again. :thumbsup:

[gardogg]

No, somethings are easier to draw if you rotate the canvas, paper, etc...
Things like drawing a straight line. It's easier if the angle of the line aligns to how your arm moves.

Oh... So that's what the rotating is for. I get it now. Thanks for explaining that to me.

[rogfa]

I couldn't honestly recommend James Clyne's rendering DVD because the Dylan Cole dvds are so much better. Here's a guy who went out to the community and asked what would you want to see in a dvd. Dylan's Vol.1 dvd shows you how to paint in PhotoShop with lots of tricks with curves, gradients, atomospheric perspective. I learn quite a lot from Vol1 and Vol3. I'm not even into matte painting but I wanted to try and add some realism in my work.

Good Luck!

so, would you all recommend checking out ryan church's or james clyne's rendering dvd.

they both look great, but i can only afford one at the moment.

[marchermann]

I found the Feng Zhu "Shot Design" DVD more informative and instructive than Ryan Church's "Hi-Tech Architecture". Zhu goes through basic principles, then sketches out shot after shot. Church only works on one big painting. Then again, Zhu only works with black, greys and white. In the end it depends on what you want to learn.

Neither of the DVDs teach you how to use the software. Especially "Shot Design" can easily be followed with pencil, paper and a ruler.

Marc

[AngryScientist]

Rulers are for newbs ;)

Personally I found the Shot Design DVD very informative and even did some sketches with Copics the next day that pretty much emulated the style.

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