Spectacular 2D Entry: Andreas Rocha

[andreasrocha]

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Putting down some initial ideas. They are all somehow influenced by images I have seen...At the moment some of the ideas that I think are strongest for this theme are: movement, perspective, light, scale and abstraction

[Fahrija]

Hi Andreas,

good luck for the challenge. :thumbsup:

The second sketch feel interesting so far.




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[Rebeccak]

andreasrocha,

Good luck!! Looks good so far! :)

~Rebeccak

[beelow]

I am liking the second sketch so far, Good luck to ya Andreas, nice to see in this contest!:thumbsup:

[AlyFell]

Hi Andreas! :)

[melkao]

hi man welcome to this new cool challenge and i hope to see some good work from you like the last challenge...give a description of your idea

[DrFx]

Andi, tudo fixe?
Nice to see you in the challenges again! This time, I'm in, too!
I like the middle sketch, whatever it is! :) Good luck and see you around!

[walrus]

Hey, Andreas! Welcome back!

I fully expected you to do something with some city being utterly destroyed or something... I thought of it myself and shuddered to think of all of those buildings, and then thought, "Andreas could do that!" :-) So, buildings or no, good luck and have fun!

-mike

[MichaelZHsee]

yeah andi,impressive start mate~

wish u luck and have all the fun in the challenge:thumbsup:

michael see

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126219072_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126219072_large.jpg)

I decided to pick the sketch I liked most and refine it a bit more. However, I didn't manage to convey my idea correctly, since this looks like a huge massacre. My idea is exactly the opposite. I want to transmit life and freedom, perhaps associated with something as brutal as an bomb, but in an oneiric kind of way, like an explosion of life.
I bet everyone already had that 'floating in the air dream', where you somehow feel alive and capable of everything. That is the kind of spectacularity I would like to portrait but in a huge environment shared by millions of people at the same time. I also don't want to relate to any orthogonal space coordinate system. There should be no vertical nor horizontal, just depth.

...well, just a thought anyway.

[M477]

I have to admit on first viewing your last post it looks like a really intense image of mass carnage (perhaps it's the red?), and the people look like they have been blown from a central core of some kind. It's visually very hard hitting, but I think that can be a good thing - perhaps if you turned the foreground character to face the camera (so to speak) you could experiment with facial expressions and body poses to get the true feel you want.

Hope I'm helping, the concept looks great and I think you should end up with something really stunning! :thumbsup:

[Mordalles]

hehe, i like your little fish pics! and ure m&s pic is amazing! u have really cool style. good luck on this one!

[arkinet]

good strt!! good luck:thumbsup:

[tlggungor]

end of day ? really like it....Goodl luck

[beelow]

I wouldn't have them fall from the sky but flying, and I agree with M477, turn some of the figures around to convey the mood that you desire, incredible sketches so far, I will check back later, holla!:thumbsup:

[teyekanik]

wow, you got your work cut out for you with all those figures, I like the idea so far, good luck!

[MichaelZHsee]

another nice one andi,an interesting concept but it seems to be alil too over scattered all over the image.keep it coming,i'm sure u'll come out with more!:scream:

[MechaHateChimp]

Hi Andreas,

I think M477 said it best. For the effect you are tring to achieve, the facial expressions will definitely help define the feeling of enlightment. As far as color, I personally dont mind the scheme you are currently working with. I know that generally brighter cooler colors help convey a pleasing moods but I think it would make the image look even more interesting working with warmer tones and strong shadows. Whatever you decide, I think your concept is great and I look forward to see how you progress with it. Good luck!

[rawgon]

Yoh man, your sketches are just Great! this last one got loads of power! undoubtly a spectacular ideia & lots of potential, have fun doing this, wish the best:D

[NinjaA55N]

welcome budy! already a nice idea I see :) good luck with this challenge.

[Tranchefeux]

Hi, your sketch is very strong for its action, I like!!!

[NOOB!]

yeh looks pretty schweet!

[Vahn]

i like that concept too ... the sketch is very powerful ... if u like it then stick to that idea :D

[Speaky]

Hi Andreas, good to see you in this challenge. :)

I like the concept and it's an unusual colour scheme to convey a sense of uplift and exhilaration. Perhaps a lighter one would feel 'lighter'? It would be nice to have one of the closest figures turned to face the camera so that the viewer can identify with the people in the pic. This would also help the viewer to understand the concept since they could read the facial expression.

Going by the body language alone, it does look like they've been bombed!

[DrFx]

Hi, ND! Tudo bem?
I like the concept, the swirl of people floating around made me think of a concept for that: Mermaid Party! Imagine a crowd of mermaid in a festival type environment! Good work, C ya!

[W-I-L]

really pushing the boat out with this one.... will be watching,, loving it!

[MiguelAngeloCBT]

Portugal está bem representado na categoria 2D !! :)

Gostei dos esboços...Bela ideia ..;)

Abraço e e Boa sorte ! ;)

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126482912_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126482912_large.jpg)

I detailed my previous step further, but I started disliking it more and more...then, by accident, I turned the figures layer off and was left with a nice blue background with some strange monolithic structures. I thought, how much more pleasing this image was, without all the clutter.
Now I am aiming for a nature-related spectacular event, with those wonderful translucency effects on ice structures. The explorers in front were inspired by some scenes of "Alien" where the crew make their first contact with the crashed alien spaceship. The huge scale difference presented in the movie really emphasizes the otherworldy environment, something I am trying to mimic here. I still have to figure out some story...

[Ducklator]

nice concept.... good luck!:thumbsup:

[melkao]

hey nice concept of the background, and nice progress you have, i can't wait to see more if this work:scream:

[DrFx]

I still have to figure out some story...

How about "thawing a dinossaur"? A spectacular one, of course! Nice colors!

[beelow]

I like the lighting of the last one, I hope whip something up that you will enjoy, I'll check back, lata!:thumbsup:

[NinjaA55N]

wow! ur latest idea sure is spectacular and in my opinion, better than ur first one. Playing with lighting coming thru ice is a marvelous idea and the composizion u have at the moment is absolutly great. I'd just play a bit more with the position of the ppl, but other than that, no crits at all. I think its one of the best ideas in the challenge so far. :thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

Thanks for the comments guys...

NinjaASSN - Thank-you very much. I'm glad you like it. But I think I am going for a completely different idea I had the other day. But I will definitely continue on the blue one and turn it into a finished piece...but probably not for the Challenge.

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126654843_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126654843_large.jpg)

Well, I had this idea the other day while watching people's behaviour on the subway. Althought I saw it here in Lisbon, I believe this behaviour to be universal. Basically I am taking the running-to-catch-the-train-avoiding-people-on-your-path behaviour and turn it into something extreme. Imagine two trains, completely full stopping at exacly the same time at the same platform, and everybody from one train wanting to get on to the other one and vice-versa...and of course, everyone is running like mad because the doors only stay open for a few seconds. Imagine the mayhem!...taken to the extreme. I've been looking at Rugby photos and I think they fit the theme nicely, but instead of having built athletes competing you have average everyday kind of people: executive with laptop, kid with IPod, babe in short skirt, fat lady, mother with three kids, nerd, ... bumping, evading each other...throwing themselves against one another...like a MOSH, with gracefulness.

Here are a few initial sketches.

[Rudeone]

hahaha very cool idea Andreas

[Vahn]

haha excellent idea ! do that one but make it a horizontal pic :D

[beelow]

That reminds meo of the bus stop, when people are trying to get on, but it's not as bad, lol! I like this idea!:D

[MichaelZHsee]

love the movement bro~a nice idea indeed~:scream:things like this does happened~

[NinjaA55N]

damn.. I was thrilled about seeing that image finished... hope u'll really finish it :)

[AlyFell]

Smashing idea, Andreas. And there's a lot of energy in these drawings. :)

[Fahrija]

You are soooo right > this behaviour is very universal and common. I watch it every day myself. Great idea:thumbsup:

I also liked the previous idea. Difficult to choose.



fahrija



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[sirBS]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126219072_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126219072_large.jpg)

I decided to pick the sketch I liked most and refine it a bit more. However, I didn't manage to convey my idea correctly, since this looks like a huge massacre. My idea is exactly the opposite. I want to transmit life and freedom, perhaps associated with something as brutal as an bomb, but in an oneiric kind of way, like an explosion of life.
I bet everyone already had that 'floating in the air dream', where you somehow feel alive and capable of everything. That is the kind of spectacularity I would like to portrait but in a huge environment shared by millions of people at the same time. I also don't want to relate to any orthogonal space coordinate system. There should be no vertical nor horizontal, just depth.

...well, just a thought anyway.

Andreasrocha, very excellent idea!
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:
Good Luck !

[W-I-L]

thats realy cool mate... not sure how spectaculiar it is.. but then who knows what judges are looking for... al depend s how the final image turns out.. but i love teh idea and initioal sketch is very good... get the feeling across.

[Slav]

ha!

superhero buisness people. i really like the earlier concepts of your image... the new one is cool but i guess there is much work ahead of everyone. :) keep it comming.

[andreasrocha]

Thanks guys. I'm glad you all seem to like the idea as much as I do. The problem now is finding the right way to present it. My main problem, I think, is how to portray the people's interaction with one another. Are they colliding, evading or both? One thing that I will surely introduce is some kind of painted motionblur, like the great Challenge Cover Illustration, which inspired me a lot to do this one. I also want to make the composition more or less symmetrical, to give both sides of the "urban armies" the same importance. Let's see what happens.

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126734839_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126734839_large.jpg)

Well, this is my first decent concept. There are several aspects which I would like to point out:
The color palette is somehow reminiscent of the early decades of the 20th century, with subdued brown tones.
The crowd in the back is intentionally backlighted, clearly defined by the silhouette.
I am using sidelighting to give some variation to the symmetrical composition.

[NinjaA55N]

damn! this last one blew my mind away! I can already see it as being finished, and its just a begining. U r definetely one of the favorites in this challenge. Even if u will once again change ur mind, I'd like to see that one finished too :D so be careful not to draw too many good sketches... coz u'll be very busy for the next few years ;) good luck once again!

[Vahn]

yes! you got it! plz do that one! :D

maybe you could even fit in someone on the left or right side ... very close to the camera with a fierce expression ... maybe a businessman with that black stripe under the eye like you see in footbal or rugby players faces ...or two people doing some kind of shoulder-ramm heehee ... just silly ideas sry... and i say it again PLZ do that one :bowdown:

[Zephyri]

Without a doubt, that last concept is amazing, stick with it! All those really strong lines and the rush of human bodies, wow, really grabs you by the throat! If you can pull off that sort of motion blur you get in a lot of photographs of this ilk, it will look quite amazing. And the palette is wonderful too.

Hrm... just ideas buzzing through my head, but what if you had that kind of rushing abou, and then one lone figure in the middle of it simply standing still? Hm, or maybe thats just messing this really good idea about too much. :/

Either way great start, can't wait to see more.

[CG-AvangarD]

keep it up!!! looking good so far

[elnady]

The last one is just perfect:thumbsup:

[DrFx]

Hi, Andi! I really love the last idea you had, very original and funny! I think you should have two central figures in the middle (clashing, of course) to draw the viewers' attention, besides all the mess around them.
I would definetly stick to the last concept, it's very good!
OT: Sempre comprei a Intuos, e tou maravilhado! Maravilhado! E vou participar no 2d, check it out! Be cool! :thumbsup:

[jddog]

Very interesting concept and the sketch give a wonderful impression of dynamic and speed. :wip:
jdd

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126955738_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1126955738_large.jpg)

Thanks everyone for the support. I am glad you find the idea interesting and I think you identify with what I am trying to convey here.
I changed the camera angle so you get a clearer and wider view of what is going on here. In the front you see man-to-man interaction and in the background you gradually see more of a mass interaction.
I also decided to introduce a more dramatic lighting with warmer, end of (working) day colors, to illuminate the (supposedly) dramatic scene.

Thanks again, for the supportive feedback.

[DrFx]

Hi again, ND! It's looking better, but I feel the foreground needs a bit more light, maybe some artificial light. The afternoon color makes perfect sense! What-a-rush-hour!

[Pawlack]

You work is more and more interesting (And it was very interesting at the beginning :D )
I like the depth you have created. And very dynamic action :)

[rawgon]

Hi Andreas, the image its now with a great depth and feel of space, the colors are so good that i ask you to keep those into your final image. Im impressed with your ability to sketch directly with colors, you have been training:thumbsup: im curious to see how far you going to push this, keep up, all the best.

Parabéns

[Ranath]

looking nice, though what's so spectacular with rush hour? I can see it every day when going to school :D

[BaronImpossible]

"Agent Smith Catches The Train"...

Sorry, just reminded me of the Smith fight in The Matrix :D This is looking great, although I don't envy you the task of detailing 500 people! Looking forward to seeing more...

[beelow]

Nice stuff, I am definitely in love with this more over the previous ones, good luck with this one, holla!:thumbsup:

[element5]

Cool idea and nice colouring....waiting for more :)

[2xbo]

Wo wo wo WOW. Nice and explose concept. I like the contrast an depth of the last one.
Just keep post more updates. :applause:

Good luck
xbo :scream:

[jddog]

Interesting light and contrats on your last sketch, this will create a very deep environment in your scene. I like it !
jdd

[melkao]

hey man i like that

[Segvoia]

Just saw that you entered the challenge, good luck :thumbsup:
Your concept has a lot of energy and evocative atmosphere. Can't wait to see how it develops.

[Hof]

Great coloring!:thumbsup: waiting for more... Good luck

[SoniaNotRed]

Wo! Cais do Sodré pela manhã!

That light looks great! :thumbsup:

[NinjaA55N]

yes yes... the back light increases the grand feeling in ur piece. Keep up with great work man! I found it very spectacular with all the dynamic it has!

[TheFirstAngel]

the strong backlight raises spectacularity a lot, fantastic sketch! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Korline]

good and intriging, love the light and the brush on this, pretty intense :bounce:

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128555883_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128555883_large.jpg)

Well...I haven't posted here in some time. Difficult to keep up. Here is a start of the lineart. I'll have to look for some references now.

[Ranath]

looks too symmetrical at the moment. You might want to use rule of thirds or golden section here...

[DrFx]

Looking good, Andi!
Tudo fixe? I think you could try out a more raised point of view, like watching a LOTR scene from above the armies' heads. You could also catch a bit of the roof structure if you use a taller picture format, this could give an impression of space.
It always makes me mad when I'm exiting the train and a bunch of dumbasses are blocking my way, eager to get in! I just want to tackle them in the way you depicted here! :twisted:
Good luck and good work!

[NinjaA55N]

great! u r still alive :D I was worry for a moment but I see it was for nothing :) Im glad u posted line art so lets the painting begin!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128801891_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128801891_large.jpg)

Thanks for the comments, DrFX and NinjASSN.

Yo C, I think you're right. The LOTR point of view really helps. Thanks for the advice. The downside is I won't be able to show people's expressions in closeups.

Thanks.

[2xbo]

Hi andreasrocha. I love the depth and the colors. you can do very well. :thumbsup:

andreasrocha. I think where the Camera view are give you the impression that are static your scene. Out the camera lower to give more impression like you done in the second picture.

Nice work andreasrocha
xbo :scream:

[Speaky]

Hi again Andreas, I'm not sure I prefer the higher POV. Great idea, as usual, but I think it would be way more effective if there were close-up elements as well as distant ones. The previous sketch is good, but too symmetrical and centrally composed for my liking. You did one a while back (post 56? I've forgotten) which really had a lot going for it.

I can't wait to see what you do with this. Very strong concept. :thumbsup:

[DrFx]

Hey, ND! How ya doin'?
I like the sense of space and depth you got in your latest sketch, but indeed you lose the close-up elements. Maybe somthing in the middle, close enough to the crowd, but still catching the mid to far background crowd.
I really like the colors in the last sketch!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128991614_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1128991614_large.jpg)

Thanks guys...your last input was very helpful to make me see that the camera was way too up. I decided to go back to the previous angle and raise it from there. What do you think now?

2xbo - Thanks for pointing it out. I'm glad you like it.

Speaky - You're absolutely right. With the previous concept I gained some things but lost a lot more, like depth and integration of the viewer in the scene. I hope to have it back now. I also tried to break the symmetry a bit like you pointed out. Thanks again.

DrFX - Yo C...wassup. Doin' fine! I tried something in the lower middle. Keep 'em suggestions comin', dude! Thanks!

[Atris]

This's a fantastic work! Very good colors ! I see the static image but at the same time it seems to me that everything is moving on it!! Great job! Good luck! :)

[DrFx]

Thanks guys...your last input was very helpful to make me see that the camera was way too up. I decided to go back to the previous angle and raise it from there. What do you think now?
Dis is mo betta, fo shizzle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzle)! :thumbsup:
I really like this last one, dude! The depth is great and the sense of movement is there!
Are you going to leave the floor in the middle empty, or have people already clashing?
Good work!

[kemar]

Great image, very powerfull!

Thumbs up.

[Vahn]

yeah very powerfull even at this raw stage ( or maybe because of this raw stage :) ) im courious how you'll continue this. great work :thumbsup: one of my fav ideas

[melkao]

wow man ...very nice progress....now the image looks more detailed:thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

Atris - Thanks!
DrFX - Wassup C! I'm thinking of leaving the clashing just in the background, and leave the the front empty like a corridor to contemplate the "front line of combat". Thanks, man!
kemar - Thanks...I hope to keep I can keep it that way to the end.
Vahn - Thanks and you're probably right...the raw stage helps to infuse movement and strength. I hope I can keep it like that, now that I am going to start detailing it. I'm also curious.
melkao - Thanks dude!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129403355_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129403355_large.jpg)

Looking for references on the web (specially the "Gare du Nord" in Paris) and going to one of our train stations here in Lisbon, I understood how I could dramatize the scene through strategic placement of openings to control the resulting light and shadows. I decided to build a 3d mockup model both for correct perspective and light study. I also tried different viewpoints since some of you pointed to the "too symmetrical" POV and came up with this offcenter one. Tell me what you think.

After making the render, it went through some heavy tweaking in Photoshop to control shadow/light and overall color. I think this will be my starting point for the painting. Any suggestions that could imply heavy modifications are welcome at this stage...

[minminxu]

I like this scene's painting~~~~~~and I like the lighting~~~~~~~good job~~~~:bounce: :bounce:

[gwhite206]

I really dig your lighting looking very nice, what did you use to make it?

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129453591_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129453591_large.jpg)

I decided to lower the point of view in order to get some people into the foreground and play with their expressions later on. I also started painting the floor, which will be highly reflective in some parts and matte in others.

[DrFx]

Wow, ND! Very impressive, I like this POV! Interesting choice of tools! Keep on putting out good stuff! Good luck!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129592821_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129592821_large.jpg)

I am starting to develop overall detail without going too deep. Like this I always get a clear idea of the whole. The color palette is more or less reminiscent of the works by Peter de Sève (http://www.peterdeseve.com/). I am also adding a few props like banners and lighting. I will have to be careful in finding a balance between detail, readability and motion...

[beelow]

you are on y9our way andreas good luck and nice lighting, will be back lata!!:thumbsup:

[MichaelZHsee]

both the latest pieces looks great~i like the glowing effect from the background yet with some of the details on the last piece.this angle definitely works better:thumbsup:i'll check in later for more

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129639056_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1129639056_large.jpg)

Thanks beelow and sh@ke...I wasn't sure if this new point of view would work, but I think I have your approval.

I flipped the canvas and changed the perspective after a suggestion of a friend, and I think it works much better. I also sharpened the image just for display.

[FrozZT]

The last one looks great! Would be cool if you add some more chaos, like in your previous sketches.. Maybe someone running on the others shoulders and stuff like that to make it more chaotic(and making them look more desperate to get across).. Looks fine like it is now too, depends on what you want to achieve..

[beelow]

I liked how you had people flying over each other and such, maybe make it more chaotic as FrozZT has said, still a fan of this one!:thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130186380_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130186380_large.jpg)

I flipped the canvas back to the original position...it's hard sometimes to decide on horizontal flipping. One minute you love it, the next you start having your doubts. Anyway...I also stretched the whole canvas horizontally to infuse motion into the scene.
I started detailing the columns and the ceiling on separate layers. I guess I will have to give some unifying brushstrokes and filters in the end after flattening the image, in order to avoid the pasted look of the individual elements.

[DrFx]

Hi ND! I like the mood in this one, and I agree that the horizontal stretching brings a sense of motion. I too would like to see people colliding, perhaps in the middle ground, while in the foreground they could still be looking at each other, looking furious and deranged!
Keep up the good work!:bounce:

[Slav]

damn bute i tell you. :)

nothing more to say but a plee for more updates.

[melkao]

nice update mate...keep going:thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

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Thanks guys...I'm glad you like it!

DrFx - Yo C...I decided to experiment with your suggestion...with the people in the middleground. It breaks the light "shaft" but I think it works better. Thanks, dude.

I did the ceiling from scratch, more or less and also added some ornamental/structural elements, going for Art Noveau embelishments.
I also tweaked some of the layers' value and colors.

[DrFx]

Hey, glad to help! Btw, what on Earth are you doing awake at 2 AM? :scream:
Speaking of the light shaft, I like the lamps you did, but maybe they should be lit, it gives a sense of "dazzle", fo shizzle, plus the foreground is getting pretty dark! Good work on the ceiling arches!:thumbsup:

[NinjaA55N]

Hi man! Just popping by to give u some compliments :) this is stil one of my favorites, with lots of dynamic and deep meaning (at least I see it that way). And Im glad that even technique will be the same class as the idea, so no worries for now. Keep up doing what u do best! Only one question... will there be anything up in the air? Above those ppl? some papers or trash, anything?

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130395028_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130395028_large.jpg)

Thanks C and NinjaASSN. I'll try the lit lamps, alghtough I think they will look a bit confusing with all that natural light. And about the things in the air...I definitely put some things in later on...

My main change here was the format. It was getting too horizontal and claustrophobic. I also added some more colors to liven things up and changed the skylight to something more interesting (I hope)...

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130620452_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1130620452_large.jpg)

Another update...the windows are still out of scale and I will change that later on. I also redid the ceiling and made some overall color adjustments.

[Slav]

this seems just right. keep going man great atmosphere in the image. :thumbsup:

[Falcorr]

Great architecture! :thumbsup:

Is this from a real place? Or you just came up with it? Trains and station looks absolutely great. Oh im hurting my head by just thinking how many characters your going to have to draw.

Colors and everything seem good. Maybe give the humans some other color clothes to stand out from the picture more? Or maybe not.

Keep it up! :bounce:

[DrFx]

Man, no crits... the ceiling turned out absolutely beautiful!!! :eek: Keep at it!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131089668_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131089668_large.jpg)

Started detailing the crowd. This is more or less the treatment I want to give them. Of course there is still a lot of cleaning to do...but I don't want to detail them much further...perhaps only the foremost ones.

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131496770_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131496770_large.jpg)

I've been going back and forth with the detailing of the crowd, but I think I have found a balance now between detailed and lack of detail. There is still a lot to be done, though.

[beelow]

Good looking update now that is what I am talking about keep it up this looks very promising, I still kinda wish that you had the people jumping on each other and flips and all that madness it seemed to be stronger then, but figurative work is hard to do, and I see that you have your hands full right now good luck!;)

[Squibbit]

hey, really fun and original pic there, good work :thumbsup:




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[ravioli_rancher]

andreasrocha.

:bounce: :applause: :buttrock:

Brilliant concept and exceptional composition.

With so many of the commuter gladiators carrying umbrellas, a hint of an electrical storm outside the station might stir things up a bit. Especially if a few of the mob were getting zapped with bolts, and catching fire.

Next time I ride the train, I'm suiting up in medeval steel and carrying a jousting lance.

Spendicularisticexcellspaztasticalazing! You rock. :buttrock:

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131899919_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1131899919_large.jpg)

I made a couple of changes to the ceiling...it seemed to make the scene too claustrophobic. I also detailed the crowd further. There were also a couple of perspective issues which I hope to have corrected. I added a couple of props. Finally, I changed the background and made the sun's glare more intense. I hope you like it.

[patina]

Hi andreasrocha

developing nicely, great energy in this image, looking forward to final inage
some more detail on characters in foreground will make it jaw droping!

My Spec
your comments would be helpful,
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=9361
thanks Patina!

[harryb]

Hi Andreas,

This is a wonderful idea -- kind of like a commuter "Braveheart". The atmosphere is so thick and charged, very kinetic. You've got mad skills!

-- HBS

[joana]

Andava eu à procura do que andavas a fazer e apanhei isto.

Fantástico. Óptima luz.

Não li os teus comentários mas parece uma guerra social.

Boa sorte!

[Nikolay]

The big work! Details are fine. I like all!):thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[melkao]

Hey rocha...i glad to see another update from you...where has you been all this time?
the image is looking better, congratulations:thumbsup:

[beelow]

Nice to see that this one is coming along, I soo love the motion in this piece!:thumbsup:

[BVentura]

Very nice ND..de

I hope no one get's hurt with all those umbrellas..:D


muito bom man! provavelmente não era fácil arranjar uma solução para expressar melhor a troca de comboios sem perder na composição (não vá o fenómeno ser exclusivo do campo grande..:)

Sorry for my bad portuguese...

:thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1132701496_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1132701496_large.jpg)

I think I am approaching the final stage here. The crowd got some more detailing. Not easy...at least not for me! I also added some more detail to the background giving the scene more depth.

Thank for all the comments!

[TheCleaner]

wow this piece really caught my eye straight away, i find those train stations spectacular as it is, but this scene is truely brilliant.

[NinjaA55N]

and brilliant it is :D for sure.. those expressions on their faces r so well painted, I can almost hear their screaming and that rush and chaos. The only thing Im thinking about that could be improved is, to add some colors in it.. some complementary colors.. if u know what I mean. At the moment this pic is great but so monochromatic, all in violet tones. Maybe just in first plan use some green or yellow, and see what happens. Just a suggestion. good luck on finishing it!

[wildcory1]

This is a very challanging drawing to pull of with all the people great job

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133163652_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133163652_large.jpg)

7 days to go...I didn't like the outcome of the crowd so I went back to a previous version and pasted it in. I think it was the highlights on the heads and the way they distracted. I think that now the crowd works more like a... crowd.

Thanks for all the support guys!

[Atris]

Hi! The very great work. Every time when I see it, it makes a powerful impression on me. I wish you good luck in this challenge! :)

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133436825_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133436825_large.jpg)

I went back and added some of the highlights of the previsous versions. I also cropped a bit of the image on the right. Also, some crowd detailing and finally the addition of the sun.

Atris - Thanks, man. It means a lot coming from you.

[weedlog]

Great work! This is one of the best works in Scpectacular challenge. Good luck!

[anilduran]

It's really impressive bro becouse an other different idea.to seeing nearly final image is really so good.
i like your concept.
good luck bro....

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480334_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480334_large.jpg)

I'm almost there...but I always find little details that need improvement.

Thanks weedlog and anilduran!

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480764_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480764_large.jpg)

Detail at 100% (after clicking on the image).

[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480858_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133480858_large.jpg)

Detail at 100% (after clicking on the image).

[PSych]

Woow!
Its great piece of art:bowdown:
I like it
Good luck

[Fahrija]

Hi Andreas,

sorry for not dropping by earlier, dude.

Your trainstation-chaos-scene turned out very good. I particularly like the composition and the lightning coming from the background.

I wish you a good workflow as regards the last finishing touches and of course good luck.



fahrija


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[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133733092_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133733092_large.jpg)


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[andreasrocha]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133744294_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8406/8406_1133744294_large.jpg)


FULL RESOLUTION IMAGE (http://andreasrocha.no.sapo.pt/CgChallenge/Violent-Needs.jpg)

Violent Needs

“Friday. 6:03 pm. Central Station.
It was one of those one in a lifetime moments, when the two afternoon trains arrived at exactly the same time and by some unexplainable coincidence every single passenger had to change trains and catch the one on the other side of the platform.
Everybody was crazy...the trains were already late and on a tight schedule. They would only stop for a few minutes, if not seconds. No one wanted to miss the train because that meant having to wait for the next one which would only arrive several hours later. On top of that, everybody was in a furious anger because they were all having the worst day of their lives. People were almost searching for an excuse to collide, to let go, to throw themselves violently against each other to feel alive. It was almost, like that day everyone felt some kind of violent passion for each other, something too big to be kept inside, something that was about to explode.
And then, it did...”

This idea grew after watching a simple daily event on the subway when people were ramming into each other in order to catch the train. It is a scene you see everyday in public transportation, concerts, football stadiums, everywhere where there is a gathering of masses. Apparently, it seems like we completely disregard people around us, but on the other hand, I think we also collide against each other because it is in our nature and it is almost like a basic need that makes us feel alive. Contemporary life favors alienation from each other which we seek to balance with violent “passionate” gatherings.
Regarding the composition, I sought dramatic end of day lighting with harsh light/shadow contrasts. Also, the viewpoint chosen is supposed to immerse the viewer in the action, while having an overall view of the crowd. Although I am referring to contemporary urban life I decided to depict a scene from the early 20th century. Somehow I think the scene more adequate for that period of modern life. I gave the characters umbrellas making it look like they were brandishing swords in a “Braveheart”-like sequence, almost like an urban battle. Finally, about the setting, it was heavily inspired on the Gare du Nord in Paris.

Thanks to everyone who took their time to watch the progress of the image and gave their feedback, both written and verbal. Good luck to everyone…and see you in the next Challenge.

[ravioli_rancher]

andreasrocha,

Beautiful description.

You're among the elite, and this image is so exceptional, a long string of envious obscenities from a large group of pissed off spectators is in order.

That and hopefully a new computer. Or whatever it is your gunning for.

Congratulations on your inspired work. :cool:

[MichaelZHsee]

congrates andi~very intense story u have got too~bets of luck in the finals:thumbsup:

[Atris]

Hi! Congratulations on successful completion of your work! :) The very great job! You managed to create fundamental unity between the architectural environment and the story ! I wish you good luck, colleague ! :)

[Ranath]

Composition's good, and I like the city in background. Characters would need a kick, but I dunno.. it works as it is too. Nice perspective on the architecture!

[zpapageo]

Hey Andreas. I cant believe I havent commented on this until now. What a great picture. Everything is handled masterfully and it all just looks right. Your style perfectly evokes the era you are depicting. Excellent. Congratulations on finishing and good luck

[Steve-h]

Great image, well done:thumbsup:

[only pony]

Really realy nice image.:thumbsup:

[Tranchefeux]

Hi, your painting final is really cool, good luck.
E.T :cool:

[melkao]

Hey rocha good job mate...see you next time:thumbsup:

[beelow]

Nice image, take care, I enjoyed watching this entry!:thumbsup:

[Gord-MacDonald]

Brilliant!!!


Gord

[Fish-KAart]

:) Interesting work! A unexpected plot! The ending has gone right! I congratulate and wish victories! :thumbsup:

[jddog]

Congratulation a very interesting concept and well excellent 'spirit' of confrontation... I really love the light and color on you drawing !
jdd

[NinjaA55N]

congratulations on finishing this piece man! I think its no need for some more praises that u already got but anyway, it looks awesome nad I hope u'll be properly rewarded. good luck!

[claudiojordao]

Hello andreas. First of all, forgive me for just seeing your work now. I have no excuse, specially because we (Portuguese) are so few!
Sonia, from the 3D-challenge, told me you were on this one too.
Well, I'm stoping by just to tell you that I'm not impressed by your work, yes... I'm not :) because I knew you'll do something amazing just like you've done on the GrandSpaceOpera-Challenge.
Congratulations... your sketches, colors, ambiences, it's all wonderful... and the use of 3D to achieve the right perspective was a fantastic idea.
Great job, eu diria mesmo q tá do c...lh. :)
Boa sorte, ou in americain, break a leg!

[radzik]

This is my favorite work! I wish you success in challenge.

[miguelf]

Great Andreas, my friend...i was surfing in the forum and voilá.... i found these piece of art..great dynamic and defently spectacular work...congrats...and keep the good work...you are a hell of an artist...

portuguese proud..

see ya

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