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agent bone
09-07-2005, 01:25 PM
Eric Bonilla is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/spectacular/view_entries.php?challenger=8357)

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: charge
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1129933775_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2759241#post2759241)

agent bone
09-10-2005, 03:20 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126365657_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126365657_large.jpg)

Hey everyone. Here is my concept sketch for my entry. Had a few ideas, but this one was my favorite. Going with an alternate history approach. What if war elephants were used during the American Civil War? So that will be the idea I am going to run with.

Comments and suggestions welcome.

NOOB!
09-10-2005, 03:28 PM
yeh looking nice so far..

R-K
09-10-2005, 05:15 PM
maybe you could drop the camera lower so elephants would be above horizon and would appear humongous and more scary?

agent bone
09-13-2005, 12:34 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126571662_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126571662_large.jpg)

Here is another compostion with a closer point of view. It omits the cannon element which I really like, but puts the viewer right in the mix of things which is kind of cool.

agent bone
09-13-2005, 12:38 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126571903_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126571903_large.jpg)

Another concept this one drops horizon line and brings the camera angle down as per suggestion. Comments on the concepts are appreciated.
Thanks

ChrisThatGuy
09-13-2005, 02:58 AM
Nice concept. Maybe if you want to fill out the negative space in the background a little, you could include a crest of a hill with more elephant cavalry swarming over it.

Korline
09-13-2005, 03:10 AM
Nice concept. Maybe if you want to fill out the negative space in the background a little, you could include a crest of a hill with more elephant cavalry swarming over it.
I think that's a great idea, would gave a lot of depth to this
this is interesting concept, I think it's got potential, good luck :)

agent bone
09-13-2005, 05:44 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126633455_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1126633455_large.jpg)

I think this is the concept I will be moving forward with.

Christhatguy, Korline - thanks for the feedback. I think I will try a version with the hill in the painting stage. I put a faint hill in the left bg as a possible location.

Any other feedback is welcome

ChrisThatGuy
09-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Yeah, that's working. I like the elephant getting blasted by the cannon. Kind of morbid, but cool.

Korline
09-13-2005, 06:46 PM
that really helps, not sure about that poor elephant, but I like the whole scene :)

xric7
09-13-2005, 07:24 PM
cool scene!!interesting battle!love the elephants a lot.:bounce:
good luck.:thumbsup:

agent bone
09-15-2005, 04:09 PM
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Color WIP. Still trying to tighten up some of the elements of the scene. Decided against blasting the elephant, may be a bit to morbid. Instead I have him rearing up at the sight of the cannon pointed towards it. Hope to lay down more paint this weekend

Christhatguy, Korline, xric7 - thanks for the comments.

Ducklator
09-15-2005, 04:13 PM
great idea.... reminds me alexander...:D

keep it up man!

agent bone
09-16-2005, 04:53 PM
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I am blocking everything in. Added more guys in the foreground.

agent bone
09-20-2005, 11:30 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127258999_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127258999_large.jpg)

Worked on the foreground figures some. I am planning on blocking in the elephants and bkgrd more. Any comments welcome.

agent bone
09-23-2005, 08:09 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127506181_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127506181_large.jpg)

just painting...

agent bone
09-27-2005, 10:42 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127860935_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1127860935_large.jpg)

Working on the values and lighting. Comments are welcome.

agent bone
09-30-2005, 09:44 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1128116697_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1128116697_large.jpg)

Just painting... any feedback would be appreciated.

zpapageo
09-30-2005, 11:51 PM
Hey eric. This is really coming along. The soldiers are starting to look good.
I think you need a more dramatic sky or maybe something to break up the silhouettes of the elephants. Right now its pretty much a smooth curve across the top. Ive always found elephants look scariest head on.
Anyway, good progress. I'd like to see more.

Korline
10-01-2005, 05:32 AM
hey man, I'm glad you've got rid of this hole in the elephant,
so, I think you defenetly need some dramatic background, then I don't know how far you're in coloring, but the dudes look little flat, I'm not sure, but I think that things are a bit to tide up, and makes it to look stiff , don't know if this helps but maybe run them into background and back so the outlines come out naturally, not like paper cut, use more value, than the outline, :)
just trying tio figure something out, I love the pic, just needs some care :applause:
cheers :twisted:

agent bone
10-01-2005, 03:14 PM
zpapageo and Korline, thanks for the feedback.

zpapageo - I agree, I need to push the sky some more.
Korline - Yeah I have been thinking the same things. I have been focusing time on getting all the guys to a certain level and neglected the backgound and atmosphere. thats why they seem so cookie cutter. I will be shifting gears and focus more on incorporating everyone into the scene. Value, blending, and lighting and so on and so forth. And you're right, a gapping hole in the elephant just wouldn't have worked LOL.

Thanks again guys

Ducklator
10-03-2005, 09:06 PM
wow... the coloring looks great!! many action... I like it!!! keep it up mate!:thumbsup: I'll wait to see more...:bounce:

BlackRT
10-17-2005, 08:26 AM
This would be a decent piece if it wasn't a total rip off of a band called Clutch who have a CD called "Elephant Riders" which is a concept of *gasp* using Elephants during the civil war.

Hey Eric, quit bitting off other people's hard work and come up with something original. Busted. And let's not hear anything about this being a coincidence because I know that it's not.

here'a a link to prove where he got this idea from...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000062HS/ref=ase_prorocktheoff-20/103-8227160-6807063?v=glance&s=music

leigh
10-17-2005, 08:41 AM
This would be a decent piece if it wasn't a total rip off of a band called Clutch who have a CD called "Elephant Riders" which is a concept of *gasp* using Elephants during the civil war.

Hey Eric, quit bitting off other people's hard work and come up with something original. Busted. And let's not hear anything about this being a coincidence because I know that it's not.

here'a a link to prove where he got this idea from...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000062HS/ref=ase_prorocktheoff-20/103-8227160-6807063?v=glance&s=music

I'll decide who is busted around here and who isn't, and frankly I think his image is so different from the one that you posted that you're ranting about nothing. Sure, the idea may be the same, but the image itself is so totally different, that there is no problem here.

It would be like coming down on someone for using an orc - conceptually unoriginal, yes, but hardly plagarism.

BaronImpossible
10-17-2005, 06:15 PM
Well composed, and some excellent dynamism with those elephants. Make sure your people up-front share that same sense of movement and purpose. A couple of them look like they've seen something else that takes their interest and are about to wander off. Don't be afraid to erase and repaint the ones that aren't working (like the guy in the middle - I would be looking at that elephant that's about to crush me if I were him). Coming on really well, nice job.

agent bone
10-21-2005, 10:29 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1129933775_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/10/8357/8357_1129933775_large.jpg)

Working on value and lighting and tying everything together. Pushed the sky some, I'm not sure if it needs more. Any feedback welcome.


BlackRT - Hey Jeremy, what's up

Baron Impossible - thanks for the feedback. You are right about a couple of the guys. Thanks for reminding me that I can erase and repaint, sometimes I just get so tied down and forget that I can change things.

Steve-h
10-22-2005, 12:56 AM
Hello Eric,

A very nice scene you have here so far. I like all the different things going on here, thereís a lot to see and look at.

My only critique so far, and I think itís and important oneÖ is that the elephants just donít look very angry to me, they donít look like they are charging into battle, about to trample the enemy soldiers to death!!

When you see an elephant charging, it widens its eyes, sounds its trumpet and most important of all, it puffs its ears outwards... Maybe this an attempt to make itself look more imposing, and probably to cool its self down at the same time. The elephants in your image (while very nicely painted) just donít look very angry to me.

I would try opening those ears outwards, and also try showing the eyes widened with more of the white parts showing.

Good luck buddy...

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